3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its the basics of the conflict .

They ve been shouting it in our faces for years

"From the River to the sea"

Its written in their Manifesto .

Islamic Palestine to replace Jewish Israel in its entirety .

Israel to be removed completely

No, that doesn't explain why they do this, you just described what they do, now explain why?

6 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

No, that doesn't explain why they do this, you just described what they do, now explain why?

Eh ?

Israel to be removed completely . Is the reason why they do it

That is what the conflict is all about

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Eh ?

Israel to be removed completely . Is the reason why they do it

That is what the conflict is all about

You're not answering the question, the question is why?

4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

You're not answering the question, the question is why?

Because they want Israel to be removed completely , that is why they are doing it .

20 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Because they want Israel to be removed completely , that is why they are doing it .

Nothing to do with the fact that Israel was given so much more of the region than the Arabs on its creation, and there was very little communication with the local population, no, well were taking this land and calling it Israel, oh you object, never mind I'm sure something can be worked out.

So where are we now, not far from where they all started, Israel are still very much the terrorists they were when the State was created, the local population, indigenous Arabs are still being ignored and abused whenever Israel sees fit.

Yet through all this, the Israeli's blame the Arabs for fighting back and not accepting their rules, and have the nerve to wonder why.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Nothing to do with the fact that Israel was given so much more of the region than the Arabs on its creation, and there was very little communication with the local population, no, well were taking this land and calling it Israel, oh you object, never mind I'm sure something can be worked out.

So where are we now, not far from where they all started, Israel are still very much the terrorists they were when the State was created, the local population, indigenous Arabs are still being ignored and abused whenever Israel sees fit.

Yet through all this, the Israeli's blame the Arabs for fighting back and not accepting their rules, and have the nerve to wonder why.

Palestinians never accepted an Israeli state in 1948 , and they don't accept it now , that is why there has been so much conflict in the region

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians never accepted an Israeli state in 1948 , and they don't accept it now , that is why there has been so much conflict in the region

So why do the Palestinians not accept an Israeli State?

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

So why do the Palestinians not accept an Israeli State?

They want all the land for themselves.

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

They want all the land for themselves.

As simple as that, nothing to do with the fact that the land given to form Israel already had inhabitants who were reasonable happy living where they were, and were not given any choice in the matter.

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

As simple as that, nothing to do with the fact that the land given to form Israel already had inhabitants who were reasonable happy living where they were, and were not given any choice in the matter.

They were welcome to stay there .

2 million Palestinians stayed and became Israeli citizens .

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Because they want Israel to be removed completely , that is why they are doing it .

You're skirting the question, why do they want Israel removed completely?

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

They were welcome to stay there .

2 million Palestinians stayed and became Israeli citizens .

Yes, as second class citizens with different rights compared to the Jews/Israelis who came in and took over.

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Yes, as second class citizens with different rights compared to the Jews/Israelis who came in and took over.

Full citizens with full rights, serve in Israel's Parliament and play for Israel's national football team , only difference is they don't have to serve in the IDF

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel to be removed completely

In 10, 15 or 20 years? 🙂

It's not sustainable for more than that, is it.

The world will be more peaceful and humanity better off. 🙂

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2 minutes ago, Packer said:

In 10, 15 or 20 years? 🙂

It's not sustainable for more than that, is it.

The world will be more peaceful and humanity better off.

Would you like to see all Jews killed, or just the demise of Israel as a Country ?

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

An insane proposal.

That's not an answer. Point-by-point, please.

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its quite obvious why .

Its the basics of the conflict .

There is NO basis for the conflict. HaShoMer started this violence, maybe it's time to play nice, don't you think.

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

You're skirting the question, why do they want Israel removed completely?

So they can have all the land for themselves .

That is WHY

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its the basics of the conflict .

They ve been shouting it in our faces for years

"From the River to the sea"

Its written in their Manifesto .

Islamic Palestine to replace Jewish Israel in its entirety .

Israel to be removed completely

Shouting is not doing. Turn off the violence. Too afraid to try?

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians never accepted an Israeli state in 1948 , and they don't accept it now , that is why there has been so much conflict in the region

So, the solution is to kill all the Arabs and eliminate the problem?

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

They want all the land for themselves.

How's that acid trip going for you, Buddy?

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

They were welcome to stay there .

2 million Palestinians stayed and became Israeli citizens .

Considering there was only one state--Israel--why were the rest of the Palestinians not given Israeli citizenship in 1948 and Right of Return as a gesture of good faith and friendship?

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Full citizens with full rights, serve in Israel's Parliament and play for Israel's national football team , only difference is they don't have to serve in the IDF

And I wonder why that is. Looks to me like Israel doesn't fully trust Israeli-Palestinians to fight for their interests--warped as they are--and murder other Palestinians.

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Would you like to see all Jews killed, or just the demise of Israel as a Country ?

Jews have proven themselves to be undeserving of a country of their own. I didn't want to believe that but Israel's actions and the Istareli public's overwhelming support for them speak that truth.

This violence against Arabs has been going on since the HaShoMer militants in 1909!

Israelis can emigrate to any country which will have them just as the Palestinians. Or find a country which will accept Judaea as an autonomous region, subject to the laws of that country, of course. Then, there will be no reason for their neighbours to hate them.

Then, Jews will have peace at last (if they can stand it) and only the Zionist Christians won't get Raptured.

The question is, will that create peace in the Middle East? Peac-ier, I think.

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2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

why do they want Israel removed completely?

Not only them, of course. 🙂

Israel was the worst thing to happen in the 1940s.

Israel doesn't have long left anyway, likely 20 years max, so no big deal.

The hate-filled death throes from Jew Zionists that people are seeing now is to be expected. They're not happy with the reality that Israel is approaching it deathbed. Expect more and more Jew violence, war crimes and crimes against humanity, until.... kaput. 🙂

4 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

As I've mentioned in several posts, I think Jews have proven themselves to be undeserving of a country of their own. I didn't want to believe that but Israel's actions and the public support for them speak that truth.

This violence against Arabs has been going on since the HaShoMer militants in 1909!

Israelis can emigrate to any country which will have them just as the Palestinians. Or find a country which will accept Judaea as an autonomous region, subject to the laws of that country, of course.

Then, Jews will have peace at last (if they can stand it) and only the Zionist Christians won't get Raptured.

The question is, will that create peace in the Middle East? Peac-ier, I think.

Would you force the Jews to move out of Israel ?

What would you do if they refused to leave ?

Some have been there (families) for over 3000 years

Nobody wants to answer my simple question above, point-by-point:

Imagine Israel minded its own business.

3 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Israelis can emigrate to any country which will have them just as the Palestinians. Or find a country which will accept Judaea as an autonomous region, subject to the laws of that country, of course.

There's already a Jew enclave officially set up just for them in the 1930s in Russia. The JAO, the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. It was officially designated as a Jewish National Region before Israel was manufactured.

Probably a few days in train cattle carriages, if they want to save money on airplane tickets. 🙂

25 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Shouting is not doing. Turn off the violence. Too afraid to try?

Would ned both sides to stop the voilence .

One side stopp

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You know absolutely nothing about the history there.

Jing, when I became interested in Israel's role in the Middle East, I had no idea of its history. As a retired academic who grew up around Jews, I've spent a lot of time, and still do, learning about Jewry. That's what informs my opinions and will continue to do so.

If you wish people educated, well, educate them, give them resources. I, for one, would very much welcome your knowledge.