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Andrew Drummond and Adam Howell

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26 minutes ago, visalady said:

Note, a 'journalist' who cannot use proper gammar.

I'm willing to wager he doesn't even have a journalism degree and most of his bio is fake.

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4 hours ago, visalady said:

But prostitution IS the selling of sexual services, and as you say that is illegal

That is not what I said. The buying and selling of sexual services between consenting adults is not in and of itself illegal under Thai law. It's the circumstances under which the buying and selling takes place that determines whether it is illegal oir not.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I'm willing to wager he doesn't even have a journalism degree and most of his bio is fake.

He lies about going to University, it was a Polytechnic at the time, although that is something else he seems to have deleted. If you look on the real Wikipedia site he does not appear to be there, odd that considering what a famous journalist he claims to be!

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1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

That is not what I said. The buying and selling of sexual services between consenting adults is not in and of itself illegal under Thai law. It's the circumstances under which the buying and selling takes place that determines whether it is illegal oir not.

The law says a person selling sex for money is illegal as that is prostitution. Not that it makes much difference in Thailand, unless you are foreign

Ai

Prostitution is officially illegal in Thailand, though the law is widely under-enforced, and the industry is broadly tolerated as a significant part of the economy

I don't think Wikipedia is right when it claims it is

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2 hours ago, visalady said:

The law says a person selling sex for money is illegal as that is prostitution. Not that it makes much difference in Thailand, unless you are foreign

Ai

Prostitution is officially illegal in Thailand, though the law is widely under-enforced, and the industry is broadly tolerated as a significant part of the economy

I don't think Wikipedia is right when it claims it is

Except the Thai law does not say that! AI is just a round-up of what's written on the internet much of which is inaccurate.

The law surrounding prostitution is similar to the UK law (like many Thai laws). Paying for (and selling) sex in private is not in itself illegal. Just imagine if it was! Aspects surrounding prostitution, like soliciting, running a brothel, underage are illegal.

10 hours ago, visalady said:

It's not closed down at all, and you have no idea who the poster was. There's no pleasing some people.

You have made multiple claims about Mr. Drummond, but have not substantiated one of them.

You claimed he wrote a negative article on a senior US embassy employee, yet you cannot provide the article, nor the individual's name.

You claimed he has engaged in wrongful activities, yet you cannot provide any documentation, such as a criminal conviction or substantiated evidence. Know who have had run ins with regulatory and judicial systems? The people Drummond exposed. Not one acknowledgement of their own histories of wrongdoing.

All you are doing is throwing whatever you can in the hopes that readers won't look at the actual facts or do a quick search on the people making the allegations and see that they are a tawdry vile collection of villains; pimps, boiler room operators and fraud schemers.

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10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Why is he one of the most sued journalists ever?

Would so many people waste time, money, energy filing lawsuits if there wasn't some degree of defamation and false reporting?

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Are you really this simple? Filing a claim is not an indication of guilt or liability. None of the lawsuits succeeded. Why are you ignoring that?

The process is called weaponizing the legal system. If you had any understanding of civil litigation in Thailand, you would know that the filing of petty claims against people is a tool used to pressure people. The plaintiffs are hoping that if they file enough of the claims that they can run up the defendants costs and pressure the person to back off. In Thailand, there is no downside to filing these types of claims. In these claims, the plaintiff can escape having to pay the cost of the defendants defense when the suit is withdrawn or dismissed. The classic example is that of the Phuketwan news. It was harassed into closure. None of the charges was proven true, but the expensive and time consuming case along with the threats wore out the publisher. This is the same strategy Mr. Drummond's attackers are pursuing.

19 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You have made multiple claims about Mr. Drummond, but have not substantiated one of them.

You claimed he wrote a negative article on a senior US embassy employee, yet you cannot provide the article, nor the individual's name.

You claimed he has engaged in wrongful activities, yet you cannot provide any documentation, such as a criminal conviction or substantiated evidence. Know who have had run ins with regulatory and judicial systems? The people Drummond exposed. Not one acknowledgement of their own histories of wrongdoing.

All you are doing is throwing whatever you can in the hopes that readers won't look at the actual facts or do a quick search on the people making the allegations and see that they are a tawdry vile collection of villains; pimps, boiler room operators and fraud schemers.

19 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You have made multiple claims about Mr. Drummond, but have not substantiated one of them.

You claimed he wrote a negative article on a senior US embassy employee, yet you cannot provide the article, nor the individual's name.

You claimed he has engaged in wrongful activities, yet you cannot provide any documentation, such as a criminal conviction or substantiated evidence. Know who have had run ins with regulatory and judicial systems? The people Drummond exposed. Not one acknowledgement of their own histories of wrongdoing.

All you are doing is throwing whatever you can in the hopes that readers won't look at the actual facts or do a quick search on the people making the allegations and see that they are a tawdry vile collection of villains; pimps, boiler room operators and fraud schemers.

19 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You have made multiple claims about Mr. Drummond, but have not substantiated one of them.

You claimed he wrote a negative article on a senior US embassy employee, yet you cannot provide the article, nor the individual's name.

You claimed he has engaged in wrongful activities, yet you cannot provide any documentation, such as a criminal conviction or substantiated evidence. Know who have had run ins with regulatory and judicial systems? The people Drummond exposed. Not one acknowledgement of their own histories of wrongdoing.

All you are doing is throwing whatever you can in the hopes that readers won't look at the actual facts or do a quick search on the people making the allegations and see that they are a tawdry vile collection of villains; pimps, boiler room operators and fraud schemers.

His initials were JC I do not think its allowed to give his full name. As I said what evidence to you expect to be around after 25 years, and I did find a post from 4 years ago mentioning the same event. This is not a court, you believe me or not, why would I make it up? I have not claimed he engaged in wrongful, unless you mean his nightlife activities., are you claiming that was wrong? However, many did take out defamation cases against him, which seems to be why he ran away.

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Seems he had criminal convictions back in 2004, he was just a trouble maker. I can see why he ran away now in 2015 another conviction, and several were pending, would have been a likely prison sentence.

Meanwhile, on July 5, a court in the resort town of Pattaya convicted Scottish journalist Andrew Drummond of libel and handed down a six-month suspended prison sentence with a 60,000 baht (US$1,500) fine. It was the third ruling against Drummond in a case launched by James Lumsden, the owner of Pattaya’s largest gay nightclub, Boyz Boyz Boyz, in retaliation for a May 2001 investigative article that ran in the English-language Bangkok Post.

https://ifex.org/journalist-convicted-of-criminal-libel/

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15 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Why is he one of the most sued journalists ever?

Would so many people waste time, money, energy filing lawsuits if there wasn't some degree of defamation and false reporting?

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Thanks - that was from a piece Drummond wrote claiming to be the most sued in living history. Why did you not give the link? 555. You will not find negative stuff about Andrew Drummond in the Press Gazette. The more you search the more good stuff you will find. The point of the piece was to demonstrate how easy it was to sue in Thailand. These guys (below) probably knew they would not win. They just wanted to make Drummond waste lots of money defending himself. In the UK if you sue for libel the character of the plaintiff is taken into account when assessing damages. ie Flowers would have been laughed out of court.

This story above was due to multiple cases being brought by (a) Drew Noyes, owner of the Pattaya Times, and Brian Goudie a Scot who had been sentenced to six years in Australia for theft from his employees (several hundred thousand dollars) and Noyes was convicted in Pattaya and sentenced to a jail term for extortion (look it up) Goudie while pretending to be a barrister, not less, and a former Captain in the Royal Marines, was sentended to two years for fraud.. Both fled Thailand while appealing their sentences after deposting large sums of cash as sureties for their returns.

APPEAL COURT CONFIRMS EXTORTION CONVICTION FOR ‘ADVISER TO MAYOR’ OF THAI SEX RESORT – Andrew Drummond

Drew Noyes Jailed for 2 years - General Discussion about Pattaya - Pattaya Talk Forum

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BRIAN GOUDIE’S FAKE LAWYER CAREER ENDS IN JAIL – Andrew Drummond

I am astonished as to the level of stupidity displayed by those wishing to attack Andrew Drummond. Drummond looks forward to froggy's next attack.

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5 hours ago, visalady said:

Seems he had criminal convictions back in 2004, he was just a trouble maker. I can see why he ran away now in 2015 another conviction, and several were pending, would have been a likely prison sentence.

Meanwhile, on July 5, a court in the resort town of Pattaya convicted Scottish journalist Andrew Drummond of libel and handed down a six-month suspended prison sentence with a 60,000 baht (US$1,500) fine. It was the third ruling against Drummond in a case launched by James Lumsden, the owner of Pattaya’s largest gay nightclub, Boyz Boyz Boyz, in retaliation for a May 2001 investigative article that ran in the English-language Bangkok Post.

https://ifex.org/journalist-convicted-of-criminal-libel/

There were only two cases. There was no third ruling. But I have dealt with this already. Andrew Drummond was acquitted in both cases at the appeal court. Newspapers in the UK rejoiced in the win. If you click on that ifex link you will see that it is a complain by the Committee to Protect Journalists! 555555.

Scots sex club kings lose fight to have brave journalist jailed - Daily Record

Thank you for this research visaalady 555555

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5 hours ago, visalady said:

His initials were JC I do not think its allowed to give his full name. As I said what evidence to you expect to be around after 25 years, and I did find a post from 4 years ago mentioning the same event. This is not a court, you believe me or not, why would I make it up? I have not claimed he engaged in wrongful, unless you mean his nightlife activities., are you claiming that was wrong? However, many did take out defamation cases against him, which seems to be why he ran away.

It is not libelous to give JC's real name, provided you do not libel him. Lets have the real name and that post from four years ago. The problem is that nobody believes you because no international correspondent in Bangkok would attack the Deputy Head of Mission of any Embassy unless the offence was extremely serious.

18 hours ago, visalady said:

The suggestion that Drummond did not know any of those sites he was banned from is quite laughable, at the time they were as well known as Thai visa where he cannot deny he was banned from at least twice. Maybe somebody could ask Drummond if he remembers sex with some of Rickies girls? Fancy that, an 'award winning' ethical journalist like St Drummond engaging in illegal prostitution. No, there appears to be no documetation left, but he did do it, did justify it later and has continued his obsession for years with western individuals in Pattaya. I do not believe he is a happy man at all and feel quite sorry for him.

I have asked Drummond. He said 'fancy that. <removed>.' If you can't find anything. Just invent it. Incidentally he remembers a site called <URL Automatically Removed>, not T door, as you or froggy posted. As for Drummond 'engaging in illegal prostitution'. Drummond's photographer colleague with whom he worked for 20 plus years says that in all the time he spent with Drummond he never ever saw Drummond taking a girl from a bar. And yes, Drummond had to circulate around bars frequently, as would any reporter working on foreign crime in Thailand.

12 hours ago, visalady said:

I rarely look at face book, but Drummond carries on his obsession with Pattaya on there. Here he is complaining that people he has been smearing for years have the nerve to answer him back using his own tactics. Then says they have not had any effect, so what's the problem? Note, a 'journalist' who cannot use proper gammar.

Andrew Drummond

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A wee while ago I said I was under massive attack on the net. Well, it WAS massive, the attacker, a Brit in Thailand who runs a large sex tourism operation in the infamous resort of Pattaya had created what are known as smear hubs all interlinking but with fictious stories about your truly. However, weeks on there has been no effect.

  1. Is there a reason why you cannot quote the whole piece visalady and perhaps the story it is linked to?

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12 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I'm willing to wager he doesn't even have a journalism degree and most of his bio is fake.

Who is going to take a bet on that? 🤣 Drummond never claimed a journalism degree. In 1968 there was no such thing as a journalism degree. And even medi studies journalism degrees are not really taken seriously by employees unless they are issued by specific unis. A degree in political science would be much more useful. Employees want to know that journalists are able to get the stories - you can only learn that by on the job experience. Drummond trained as a journalist under the National Council for the Training of Journalists as did all his peer journalists at that time.

17 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Why is he one of the most sued journalists ever?

Would so many people waste time, money, energy filing lawsuits if there wasn't some degree of defamation and false reporting?

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10 hours ago, visalady said:

He lies about going to University, it was a Polytechnic at the time, although that is something else he seems to have deleted. If you look on the real Wikipedia site he does not appear to be there, odd that considering what a famous journalist he claims to be!

Where is his claim that he went to University? Like all journalist at the time (1968) he was trained under the National Council for the Traing ofJournalists - if you can find a university which did a degree in journalism in the UK in 1968 - please notify me.

6 hours ago, visalady said:

Seems he had criminal convictions back in 2004, he was just a trouble maker. I can see why he ran away now in 2015 another conviction, and several were pending, would have been a likely prison sentence.

Meanwhile, on July 5, a court in the resort town of Pattaya convicted Scottish journalist Andrew Drummond of libel and handed down a six-month suspended prison sentence with a 60,000 baht (US$1,500) fine. It was the third ruling against Drummond in a case launched by James Lumsden, the owner of Pattaya’s largest gay nightclub, Boyz Boyz Boyz, in retaliation for a May 2001 investigative article that ran in the English-language Bangkok Post.

https://ifex.org/journalist-convicted-of-criminal-libel/

Rather than quote from the article to suit you - in these cases which Drummond won on appeal - why don't you show that paragraph in context. Oh because the article was supporting of Andrew Drummond and your first paragraph was taken from the middle of letter written by the New York based Committee to Protect Journalists!!CPJ New York and Andrew Drummond.jpg

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3 hours ago, Thai-Defender said:

that in all the time he spent with Drummond he never ever saw Drummond taking a girl from a bar. And yes, Drummond had to circulate around bars frequently, as would any reporter working on foreign crime in Thailand.

That shows incredible self-restraint and discipline and dedication to his profession.

Reminds me of a guy on here, georgegeorgia, who takes several trips a year to Pattaya but never partakes in the bar scene.

Drummond is wrong when he said he has not heard of those sites I said he was banned from. He used to post on Thailand -uk as Gang Warily. Here he is asking for details when another poster he had been fighting with on another forum accused him of wrong doing

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8 Apr 2016, 16:18

Yes please GTB spill the beans

Originally posted by GTG View Post

If by 'real journalism' you mean that, in the absence of any interesting stories you just completely fabricate articles which threaten the careers/lives of innocent people simply in order to fill your column inches, then, yes, Drummond's your man.

You have been asked several times to put up. ie demonstrate which articles were fabricated. Who are these innocent people? Could you be one? If not who and please show us the story or stories in question.

From the same thread,- GTG was a married family man and a teacher who Drummond fell out with online, The idea that he only went ofter criminals is false. He is a vindictive little man with a big ego and has persecuted innocent people

' I had a very unpleasant personal experience with him some years ago and find it very difficult to rejoice in his 'triumphs'. Creating havoc in people's lives with completely unfounded lies seems to cause him little concern as long as he can get paid for filling a few column inches'

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Yet another case on Thailand- UK about Drummond publishing a pic of a teacher he said was a boiler room scammer, of course he denied making the mistake, but took the photo down. I know this was a fact as I lived in the same condo as Sean the victim, but forgot about it until I saw it mentioned on the forum while reading Drummond's posts, on a place that he's 'never heard of'

Again from the same thread with Drummonds response

8 Apr 2016, 13:29

I only know of one case when I lived at Bang na trad. Shocked when I looked at your site one day and saw a neighbour (Sean) photo outing him as a boiler room operative. I knew for a fact he was a teacher and probably in the wrong place at the wrong time hence the snap. It caused him considerable distress, due diligence? I don't think so.

Gang Wariliy's (Drummonds reply)

8 Apr 2016, 14:02

This is all too vague. If I have named someone as a boiler room operator and he isn't then I would certainly be in big trouble and at least get a complaint. It is remotely possible your pal was photographed next to a group of BR operators, but unlikely. You would need to show me the story. Just google boiler room and Andrew Drummond and you will find the stories and pictures. Happy hunting. Never have I innocently accused anyone of being in a boiler room who was not. You might want to get back to your friend and ask him why he did not complain. or send me the picture.

6 hours ago, Thai-Defender said:

I have asked Drummond. He said 'fancy that. <removed>.' If you can't find anything. Just invent it. Incidentally he remembers a site called <URL Automatically Removed>, not T door, as you or froggy posted. As for Drummond 'engaging in illegal prostitution'. Drummond's photographer colleague with whom he worked for 20 plus years says that in all the time he spent with Drummond he never ever saw Drummond taking a girl from a bar. And yes, Drummond had to circulate around bars frequently, as would any reporter working on foreign crime in Thailand.

He posted under his own name on some sites, as well as the flying sporran, the famous grouse and on Thailand-uk as Gang Warily, but now does not remember. You do not have to take a girl out of a bar to go with them. It's an old excuse to say 'I was just doing research' or as the News of the World used to put it, I made my excuses and left.

Whatever St Andrew, you or I say, he will remain a hero to some and a villain to others.

6 hours ago, visalady said:

Drummond is wrong when he said he has not heard of those sites I said he was banned from. He used to post on Thailand -uk as Gang Warily. Here he is asking for details when another poster he had been fighting with on another forum accused him of wrong doing

Gang Warily

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8 Apr 2016, 16:18

Yes please GTB spill the beans

Originally posted by GTG View Post

If by 'real journalism' you mean that, in the absence of any interesting stories you just completely fabricate articles which threaten the careers/lives of innocent people simply in order to fill your column inches, then, yes, Drummond's your man.

You have been asked several times to put up. ie demonstrate which articles were fabricated. Who are these innocent people? Could you be one? If not who and please show us the story or stories in question.

From the same thread,- GTG was a married family man and a teacher who Drummond fell out with online, The idea that he only went ofter criminals is false. He is a vindictive little man with a big ego and has persecuted innocent people

' I had a very unpleasant personal experience with him some years ago and find it very difficult to rejoice in his 'triumphs'. Creating havoc in people's lives with completely unfounded lies seems to cause him little concern as long as he can get paid for filling a few column inches'

At the end of this piece you state: " I had a very unpleasant personal experience with him some years ago and find it very difficult to rejoice in his 'triumphs'. Creating havoc in people's lives with completely unfounded lies seems to cause him little concern as long as he can get paid for filling a few column inches'" I think you have given the game away. So you are a victim of Andrew Drummond. Let's hear that story then or will you remain silent about it. You're certainly no lady.

Andrew Drummond does not deny checking out social media sites and forums in Thailand. Gang Warily was a name he used on this site, he believes.

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6 hours ago, visalady said:

Yet another case on Thailand- UK about Drummond publishing a pic of a teacher he said was a boiler room scammer, of course he denied making the mistake, but took the photo down. I know this was a fact as I lived in the same condo as Sean the victim, but forgot about it until I saw it mentioned on the forum while reading Drummond's posts, on a place that he's 'never heard of'

Again from the same thread with Drummonds response

8 Apr 2016, 13:29

I only know of one case when I lived at Bang na trad. Shocked when I looked at your site one day and saw a neighbour (Sean) photo outing him as a boiler room operative. I knew for a fact he was a teacher and probably in the wrong place at the wrong time hence the snap. It caused him considerable distress, due diligence? I don't think so.

Gang Wariliy's (Drummonds reply)

8 Apr 2016, 14:02

This is all too vague. If I have named someone as a boiler room operator and he isn't then I would certainly be in big trouble and at least get a complaint. It is remotely possible your pal was photographed next to a group of BR operators, but unlikely. You would need to show me the story. Just google boiler room and Andrew Drummond and you will find the stories and pictures. Happy hunting. Never have I innocently accused anyone of being in a boiler room who was not. You might want to get back to your friend and ask him why he did not complain. or send me the picture.

Andrew Drummond's reply stands. He cannot recall receiving a complaint from an 'innocent' victim. Boiler room guys claimed claimed to be all sorts of other things other than boiler room, fraudsters. Many Englih language teachers got jobs in boiler rooms. What about the story he did on you?

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9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

That shows incredible self-restraint and discipline and dedication to his profession.

Reminds me of a guy on here, georgegeorgia, who takes several trips a year to Pattaya but never partakes in the bar scene.

Don't judge people by your own standards Froggy

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

That shows incredible self-restraint and discipline and dedication to his profession.

Reminds me of a guy on here, georgegeorgia, who takes several trips a year to Pattaya but never partakes in the bar scene.

I haven't either. Preferring not to exploit other humans for my own gratification.

It takes a certain kind of character...

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42 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I haven't either. Preferring not to exploit other humans for my own gratification.

It takes a certain kind of character...

Exactly and you are not alone. I would guess that as a known investigative journalist he would be very aware many people would try to set him up in that sort of scenario. Andrew's protagonist at the moment is mired in the world of what he calls 'mongering' - even calls himself 'Professor Monger' It's symptomatic of the type of tourism the government is supposedly trying to block. Several days in , visalady has admitted he (its no she) had a run in with Andrew Drummond. No suprises there. 'save the frogs' is beyond saving. himself. 555

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On 5/28/2026 at 9:47 AM, Thai-Defender said:

At the end of this piece you state: " I had a very unpleasant personal experience with him some years ago and find it very difficult to rejoice in his 'triumphs'. Creating havoc in people's lives with completely unfounded lies seems to cause him little concern as long as he can get paid for filling a few column inches'" I think you have given the game away. So you are a victim of Andrew Drummond. Let's hear that story then or will you remain silent about it. You're certainly no lady.

I think the bit you quoted is part of the Thailand-UK content, not visalady referring to herself.

On 5/21/2026 at 7:38 AM, Andy Harrow said:

Okay, this article does raise some genuinely interesting points in a fairly measured way. It feels quite insightful in places, while still leaving a bit of space for context, and the possibility that not everything presented By Andrew Drummond and Adam Howell is air tight. Drummond is frequently publishing with fact checking. This is careless as the disgraced journalist was convicted of fake allegations.

https://drummondhowellcampaign.com/evidence/pattaya-groups-incitement-may-2026

Well Andy your reputation here stand at -16

On 5/21/2026 at 7:38 AM, Andy Harrow said:

Okay, this article does raise some genuinely interesting points in a fairly measured way. It feels quite insightful in places, while still leaving a bit of space for context, and the possibility that not everything presented By Andrew Drummond and Adam Howell is air tight. Drummond is frequently publishing with fact checking. This is careless as the disgraced journalist was convicted of fake allegations.

https://drummondhowellcampaign.com/evidence/pattaya-groups-incitement-may-2026

On 5/21/2026 at 7:38 AM, Andy Harrow said:

Okay, this article does raise some genuinely interesting points in a fairly measured way. It feels quite insightful in places, while still leaving a bit of space for context, and the possibility that not everything presented By Andrew Drummond and Adam Howell is air tight. Drummond is frequently publishing with fact checking. This is careless as the disgraced journalist was convicted of fake allegations.

https://drummondhowellcampaign.com/evidence/pattaya-groups-incitement

Well Andy Harrow,<removed> with a url from Bryan Flowers' smear hub campaign against Andrew Drummond, for publishing the Night Wish Files, a complete run down in his own words of how Flowers conducted his Thai prostitution businesses in Pattaya. And your initial slur were that Andrew Drummond is a disgraced journalist convicted to fake allegations. That has been completely been debunked now. The smear campaign includes over 150-180 stories on websites created for this purpose, and 20 plus ridiculous artificial intellgence You Tubes. It is'nt working is it?

On 5/28/2026 at 5:22 PM, Thai-Defender said:

Exactly and you are not alone. I would guess that as a known investigative journalist he would be very aware many people would try to set him up in that sort of scenario. Andrew's protagonist at the moment is mired in the world of what he calls 'mongering' - even calls himself 'Professor Monger' It's symptomatic of the type of tourism the government is supposedly trying to block. Several days in , visalady has admitted he (its no she) had a run in with Andrew Drummond. No suprises there. 'save the frogs' is beyond saving. himself. 555

Well said Mr Andrew, you are defending yourself well, behind your curtain.

On 5/28/2026 at 3:47 PM, Thai-Defender said:

At the end of this piece you state: " I had a very unpleasant personal experience with him some years ago and find it very difficult to rejoice in his 'triumphs'. Creating havoc in people's lives with completely unfounded lies seems to cause him little concern as long as he can get paid for filling a few column inches'" I think you have given the game away. So you are a victim of Andrew Drummond. Let's hear that story then or will you remain silent about it. You're certainly no lady.

Andrew Drummond does not deny checking out social media sites and forums in Thailand. Gang Warily was a name he used on this site, he believes.

Wrong again, it was not me it was a poster called Gordon a teacher at an international school at the time, posting on Thailand-uk years later. I have not had any run ins with the smear monger. If you are really interested in the diplomats name I will PM it to you, but Drummond knows very well what it is.

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