16 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Absolutely correct. Now its like treading on eggshells, people in general are offended far too easily, especially from a certain demographic.

My heart goes out to you.

It must be devastating for you and BarraMarra that society has evolved and you are no longer allowed to use your racist names anymore. I mean how do you cope?

But don’t worry, you have both MAGA, Farage and Tommy Robinson trying their level best to get these words back for you.

There’s still hope. You just hang in there.

21 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

My heart goes out to you.

It must be devastating for you and BarraMarra that society has evolved and you are no longer allowed to use your racist names anymore. I mean how do you cope?

But don’t worry, you have both MAGA, Farage and Tommy Robinson trying their level best to get these words back for you.

There’s still hope. You just hang in there.

You are missing the point, on purpose of course. You need to look at the BIG picture, instead of hiding under a rock.

In the UK it is a huge problem now and growing.

Officers are trained heavily on “unconscious bias,” “institutional racism,” and avoiding accusations of racism against minorities.

This creates hesitation or bias in the moment — they feared being seen as racist if they didn’t take Digwa’s side, in this case.

Similar patterns have appeared before (e.g., grooming gang scandals where authorities avoided action against Asian Muslim groups for years out of fear of “racism” labels — confirmed in multiple official reports like Baroness Casey’s).

Other reports have said similar.

Jay Report (2014) – Rotherham

Explicitly stated that fear of being labelled “racist” was a major reason they avoided confronting the fact that most perpetrators were men of Pakistani heritage targeting mostly white girls.

Rochdale, Oxford, Telford and other local inquiries.

Rochdale (2012–2013): Similar findings — authorities ignored victims and hesitated due to the ethnicity of the grooming gangs.

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) – Final Report (2022)

Highlighted systemic failures by police, councils, and social services, including reluctance to address cultural/ethnic patterns for fear of racism accusations.

A significant portion of the British public believes institutions (police especially) have become overly cautious about race, to the point where it distorts basic policing and truth-telling when it involves certain ethnic/religious groups.

5 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

You are missing the point, on purpose of course. You need to look at the BIG picture, instead of hiding under a rock.

In the UK it is a huge problem now and growing.

Officers are trained heavily on “unconscious bias,” “institutional racism,” and avoiding accusations of racism against minorities.

This creates hesitation or bias in the moment — they feared being seen as racist if they didn’t take Digwa’s side, in this case.

Similar patterns have appeared before (e.g., grooming gang scandals where authorities avoided action against Asian Muslim groups for years out of fear of “racism” labels — confirmed in multiple official reports like Baroness Casey’s).

Other reports have said similar.

Jay Report (2014) – Rotherham

Explicitly stated that fear of being labelled “racist” was a major reason they avoided confronting the fact that most perpetrators were men of Pakistani heritage targeting mostly white girls.

Rochdale, Oxford, Telford and other local inquiries.

Rochdale (2012–2013): Similar findings — authorities ignored victims and hesitated due to the ethnicity of the grooming gangs.

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) – Final Report (2022)

Highlighted systemic failures by police, councils, and social services, including reluctance to address cultural/ethnic patterns for fear of racism accusations.

A significant portion of the British public believes institutions (police especially) have become overly cautious about race, to the point where it distorts basic policing and truth-telling when it involves certain ethnic/religious groups.

Well said, absolute undeniable facts, although you watch, some folks still will deny it!

The big problem is some folks get their feelings in the way of facts!!

Edited June 6Jun 6 by mikeymike100

The big problem here in the UK Mikeymike100 is people hide there head in the sand and refuse to deal with Racism. If anyone calls out immigrants or non whites there are classed as Racists or far right agitators trying to split the UK and causing divistion.

12 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

The big problem here in the UK Mikeymike100 is people hide there head in the sand and refuse to deal with Racism. If anyone calls out immigrants or non whites there are classed as Racists or far right agitators trying to split the UK and causing divistion.

Possibly because they generally are!

4 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

You are missing the point, on purpose of course. You need to look at the BIG picture, instead of hiding under a rock.

In the UK it is a huge problem now and growing.

Officers are trained heavily on “unconscious bias,” “institutional racism,” and avoiding accusations of racism against minorities.

This creates hesitation or bias in the moment — they feared being seen as racist if they didn’t take Digwa’s side, in this case.

Similar patterns have appeared before (e.g., grooming gang scandals where authorities avoided action against Asian Muslim groups for years out of fear of “racism” labels — confirmed in multiple official reports like Baroness Casey’s).

Other reports have said similar.

Jay Report (2014) – Rotherham

Explicitly stated that fear of being labelled “racist” was a major reason they avoided confronting the fact that most perpetrators were men of Pakistani heritage targeting mostly white girls.

Rochdale, Oxford, Telford and other local inquiries.

Rochdale (2012–2013): Similar findings — authorities ignored victims and hesitated due to the ethnicity of the grooming gangs.

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) – Final Report (2022)

Highlighted systemic failures by police, councils, and social services, including reluctance to address cultural/ethnic patterns for fear of racism accusations.

A significant portion of the British public believes institutions (police especially) have become overly cautious about race, to the point where it distorts basic policing and truth-telling when it involves certain ethnic/religious groups.

4 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Well said, absolute undeniable facts, although you watch, some folks still will deny it!

The big problem is some folks get their feelings in the way of facts!!

I agree with both of you. People need to look at the big(ger) picture.

Why weren't the Catholic Church investigated earlier, following many reports of abuse?Why was the Jersey children's hone scandal not investigated sooner? Why was Nathan Bennet allowed to continue his abuse despite being reported? Why were the two boys not locked up for rape recently? Whyvwas Ian Huntley not investigated for previous crimes reported against him, only to be allowed to remain free and murder two girls? As examples.

Feelings should not be allowed to get in the way of facts. Quite right.

People, of any walk of life, who are more concerned about the ethnicity of the perpetrator rather than the impact the crime has had on the victims and their families, are the problem.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

The big problem here in the UK Mikeymike100 is people hide there head in the sand and refuse to deal with Racism. If anyone calls out immigrants or non whites there are classed as Racists or far right agitators trying to split the UK and causing divistion.

If you wish to appear non discriminatory when posting about issues, try to show a balanced point of view. Have you ever started a thread about a serious crime committed by someone of White British decent, for example?

the cops have been toldto kowtow to ethnics by senior cops

5 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

the cops have been toldto kowtow to ethnics by senior cops

Wow, the police abiding by ethics. What a thought!

4 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

You are missing the point, on purpose of course. You need to look at the BIG picture, instead of hiding under a rock.

In the UK it is a huge problem now and growing.

Officers are trained heavily on “unconscious bias,” “institutional racism,” and avoiding accusations of racism against minorities.

This creates hesitation or bias in the moment — they feared being seen as racist if they didn’t take Digwa’s side, in this case.

Similar patterns have appeared before (e.g., grooming gang scandals where authorities avoided action against Asian Muslim groups for years out of fear of “racism” labels — confirmed in multiple official reports like Baroness Casey’s).

Other reports have said similar.

Jay Report (2014) – Rotherham

Explicitly stated that fear of being labelled “racist” was a major reason they avoided confronting the fact that most perpetrators were men of Pakistani heritage targeting mostly white girls.

Rochdale, Oxford, Telford and other local inquiries.

Rochdale (2012–2013): Similar findings — authorities ignored victims and hesitated due to the ethnicity of the grooming gangs.

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) – Final Report (2022)

Highlighted systemic failures by police, councils, and social services, including reluctance to address cultural/ethnic patterns for fear of racism accusations.

A significant portion of the British public believes institutions (police especially) have become overly cautious about race, to the point where it distorts basic policing and truth-telling when it involves certain ethnic/religious groups.

Absolute twaddle.

It’s not a “huge problem” It’s a handful of issues that have been rightly highlighted and are being rightly dealt with. But why let the facts get in the way of your perceived narratives and opportunity to add even more to your echo chamber eh?

Police Racism has been endemic in the UK for literally decades and there’s been so many reports about this it dwarfs the VERY few you can muster. They include -

The 1999 Macpherson Report, which famously concluded that the Metropolitan Police was "institutionally racist."

Since then, successive landmark investigations and reviews have repeatedly uncovered systemic racism, including:

• 2017 Lammy Review: An independent review of the criminal justice system that exposed glaring racial disparities in policing and court outcomes.

• 2023 Casey Review: An independent review into the Metropolitan Police which explicitly concluded the force was institutionally racist, misogynistic, and homophobic.

• 2024 IOPC Race Discrimination Report: The police watchdog's report surfacing over 300 investigations and reviews that detailed widespread race discrimination in complaints, stop-and-search, and use of force.

• 2025 Structural Review of Systemic Racism ("30 Patterns of Harm"): An independent report detailing embedded anti-Black discrimination across the culture, governance, and leadership of the Metropolitan Police.

But you keep banging the “white guys are the real victims here” nonsense that you are all so desperately trying to cling on to to justify your own prejudice and downright racism.

26 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

the cops have been toldto kowtow to ethnics by senior cops

You've marked your card by the use of the terms "kowtow" and "ethnics".

30 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

If you wish to appear non discriminatory when posting about issues, try to show a balanced point of view. Have you ever started a thread about a serious crime committed by someone of White British decent, for example?

To my knowledge the only seriouse crime lately i can remember by a white was Paul Quinn who Raped a female in 2003 but watched another man do over 17 yrs in Prison for a crime he did not comitt. Greater Manchester Police now are being probed as to how this happened. Maybe you can name a viciouse white man that comitted a murder like this Sikh murderer youravin instead of digging and flaming.

Maybe you can explain this youravin about the police turning a blind eye when they knew who was behind the grooming gangs but looked away. Peter Bleksley was a Senior Detective in the Met all his life he squarly blames the cowards in police force. Tell us why we see this reguler, as Peter from as far back as the early 80s.

20 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

As other non-racist posters have said, when I was at school in the 1970s I called people by their name. The colour of their skin was irrelevant. But then I'm not, nor ever have been, racist.

Its usually a reflection of their upbringing. My parents were both British Army. We were posted all over the place. Apparently that makes me a TCK. My mum and dad came from traditional Leicestershire and East London backgrounds.

My mum's dad was in the Home Guard, wasn't allowed to join up, and I think had a more insular background, and genuinely hadn't really met anyone from outside his county, let alone his country, during his formative years. In old age, he would use fairly shocking language, but would think nothing of it.

In contrast, my Dad's dad was from East London, which has always been a melting pot. But he was also in the army, and spent 3 years as a FEPOW. Never had a bad word for anyone. I'm not sure how much of that was due to a different upbringing in London; Eastenders very much take people as they come, or because of his army service, where, in his unit, he mixed with people from up and down the country, as well as, in Singapore/Formosa, mixing with Indians, Malay, Aussies, Kiwis and the odd American.

I suspect, on reflection, its your formative years (upto, say, age 20) that sets in stone your social attitudes.

If someone thought it normal in the mid-70s to call someone a "Gollywog", I suppose its because he came from a family that used such language everyday, and he genuinely doesn't think it caused offence.

I'm with you. I called my friends by their name. I was at school 1973-87. I can't believe social attitudes changed that quickly. Because I was an army kid, I wasn't in any particular school for that long, and so my attitudes couldn't have come from teachers brainwashing me. It was all from within the home.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

To my knowledge the only seriouse crime lately i can remember by a white was Paul Quinn who Raped a female in 2003 but watched another man do over 17 yrs in Prison for a crime he did not comitt. Greater Manchester Police now are being probed as to how this happened. Maybe you can name a viciouse white man that comitted a murder like this Sikh murderer youravin instead of digging and flaming.

I don't recall asking about "lately". Please answer my question. Thanks.

53 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Maybe you can explain this youravin about the police turning a blind eye when they knew who was behind the grooming gangs but looked away. Peter Bleksley was a Senior Detective in the Met all his life he squarly blames the cowards in police force. Tell us why we see this reguler, as Peter from as far back as the early 80s.

You must have chosen to ignore my comment about policing issues, probably because they don't fit your narrative. Ill post the questions below for you

Why weren't the Catholic Church investigated earlier, following many reports of abuse?Why was the Jersey children's hone scandal not investigated sooner? Why was Nathan Bennet allowed to continue his abuse despite being reported? Why were the two boys not locked up for rape recently? Whyvwas Ian Huntley not investigated for previous crimes reported against him, only to be allowed to remain free and murder two girls? As examples.

Edited June 6Jun 6 by youreavinalaff

Society has become like this in the west "thanks" to the extremist white supremacists who were using disgusting rhetoric and stigmatising people plainly due to their skin colour. The consequence of such behaviour is an obvious societal shift, and it goes to the other extreme where even if you say the culprit is a foreigner, one can be labelled as racist. It's always the extremists that make such unbalance in society and they need to be blamed as much.

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Absolute twaddle.

It’s not a “huge problem” It’s a handful of issues that have been rightly highlighted and are being rightly dealt with. But why let the facts get in the way of your perceived narratives and opportunity to add even more to your echo chamber eh?

Police Racism has been endemic in the UK for literally decades and there’s been so many reports about this it dwarfs the VERY few you can muster. They include -

The 1999 Macpherson Report, which famously concluded that the Metropolitan Police was "institutionally racist."

Since then, successive landmark investigations and reviews have repeatedly uncovered systemic racism, including:

• 2017 Lammy Review: An independent review of the criminal justice system that exposed glaring racial disparities in policing and court outcomes.

• 2023 Casey Review: An independent review into the Metropolitan Police which explicitly concluded the force was institutionally racist, misogynistic, and homophobic.

• 2024 IOPC Race Discrimination Report: The police watchdog's report surfacing over 300 investigations and reviews that detailed widespread race discrimination in complaints, stop-and-search, and use of force.

• 2025 Structural Review of Systemic Racism ("30 Patterns of Harm"): An independent report detailing embedded anti-Black discrimination across the culture, governance, and leadership of the Metropolitan Police.

But you keep banging the “white guys are the real victims here” nonsense that you are all so desperately trying to cling on to to justify your own prejudice and downright racism.

Oh, delightful.

The classic "if you point out a documented institutional failure I don't like, you must be a raging racist" card. How refreshing. It must be incredibly comfortable living in a world where complex operational paralysis can be swept under the rug as "absolute twaddle" because it doesn’t fit neatly into your pre-packaged ideological worldview.

Let's pause for a moment of silence for the sheer irony of you accusing anyone of avoiding facts while you completely hand-wave away the Jay Report, the Rochdale Inquiry, and the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) as just a "handful of issues."

Brilliant. I’m sure the thousands of victims in Rotherham, Rochdale, and Telford will be thrilled to know their decades of systemic abandonment by terrified, hand-wringing bureaucrats were just a minor blip—nothing to disrupt your preferred narrative, of course.

Nobody is disputing the Macpherson or Casey reports; the Met Police’s deep-seated structural issues are well-documented. But thank you for the comprehensive reading list anyway.

The glaring, spectacular blind spot in your argument is the inability to grasp a simple, dual reality: it is entirely possible for a police force to suffer from legacy institutional racism while simultaneously harboring an operational fear of being labeled racist that paralyzes their decision-making on the street.

This isn't a "white guys are the real victims" sob story.

This is about a documented, systemic neurosis where officers are so terrified of triggering an identity-politics firestorm that they default to caution, treat a non-white perpetrator's malicious lies as gospel, and leave a dying man handcuffed on his stomach.

But hey, why look at the catastrophic failure of basic operational common sense when you can just scream "echo chamber" and pretend the authorities haven't spent the last two decades admitting—in black and white—that the fear of a "racist" label completely distorts their ability to do their jobs?

27 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Oh, delightful.

The classic "if you point out a documented institutional failure I don't like, you must be a raging racist" card. How refreshing. It must be incredibly comfortable living in a world where complex operational paralysis can be swept under the rug as "absolute twaddle" because it doesn’t fit neatly into your pre-packaged ideological worldview.

Let's pause for a moment of silence for the sheer irony of you accusing anyone of avoiding facts while you completely hand-wave away the Jay Report, the Rochdale Inquiry, and the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) as just a "handful of issues."

Brilliant. I’m sure the thousands of victims in Rotherham, Rochdale, and Telford will be thrilled to know their decades of systemic abandonment by terrified, hand-wringing bureaucrats were just a minor blip—nothing to disrupt your preferred narrative, of course.

Nobody is disputing the Macpherson or Casey reports; the Met Police’s deep-seated structural issues are well-documented. But thank you for the comprehensive reading list anyway.

The glaring, spectacular blind spot in your argument is the inability to grasp a simple, dual reality: it is entirely possible for a police force to suffer from legacy institutional racism while simultaneously harboring an operational fear of being labeled racist that paralyzes their decision-making on the street.

This isn't a "white guys are the real victims" sob story.

This is about a documented, systemic neurosis where officers are so terrified of triggering an identity-politics firestorm that they default to caution, treat a non-white perpetrator's malicious lies as gospel, and leave a dying man handcuffed on his stomach.

But hey, why look at the catastrophic failure of basic operational common sense when you can just scream "echo chamber" and pretend the authorities haven't spent the last two decades admitting—in black and white—that the fear of a "racist" label completely distorts their ability to do their jobs

you haven't acknowledged my comment nor answered my questions.

I guess they don't fit your agenda.

22 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

were nicknames not allowed at your school or did you lack the imagination to think of any ?

Are you talking about friendly nicknames or racially abusive name calling ?

17 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

you haven't acknowledged my comment nor answered my questions.

I guess they don't fit your agenda.

No comments on the video i posted just flip flopping around as usual youravin you have been answered many times not just by me but i will clarify it once more. The police Social services and other high profile people who should of protected kids from evil rapists turned a blind eye and let it carry on. As for your flip flopping whataboutism about Catholic schools or care homes they should have had the same in depth investigations at the time of reporting not covering it up like we see now. what about posting on the video i posted where a Ex top met officer called out the failure of the Police instead of deflecting.

24 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Are you talking about friendly nicknames or racially abusive name calling ?

I'm about to marry a thai do you think im a Racist Nick because i used terms acceptable in the 70s. Good job you never come across a comedy in the 70s called " Love thy Neighbour "

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

No comments on the video i posted just flip flopping around as usual youravin you have been answered many times not just by me but i will clarify it once more. The police Social services and other high profile people who should of protected kids from evil rapists turned a blind eye and let it carry on. As for your flip flopping whataboutism about Catholic schools or care homes they should have had the same in depth investigations at the time of reporting not covering it up like we see now. what about posting on the video i posted where a Ex top met officer called out the failure of the Police instead of deflecting.

No. You are incorrect. I asked the question "have you ever posted about a serious crime by a white British citizen?. You haven't answered. You tried to twist the question, but you didn't answer. I've since asked several others questions. No answers. You then chose to quote a comment directed at someone else. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You also said you are only aware of one serious crime lately involving a white British citizen. 🤣🤣🤣

Your true, discriminatory, views are becoming planners gor all to see.

Edited June 6Jun 6 by youreavinalaff

On 6/5/2026 at 4:09 PM, Bday Prang said:

we called them worse than golliwogs , and no i wont be staying quiet, .

When you go back to the UK next time, will you again give non White racist abuse, using the same words as before ?

46 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Are you talking about friendly nicknames or racially abusive name calling ?

I grew up in Liverpool in the 60's and 70's we had a sense of humour, racism wasn't a thing , taking the pi$$ out of each other was, we all gave as good as we got , I don't actually remember any "friendly" nicknames most were based on negative characteristics the most innocuous would be a shortened version of ones surname Yes some were indeed based on race and or skin colour and it was two way traffic like I said we gave as good as we got and racism didn't come into it.

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

When you go back to the UK next time, will you again give non White racist abuse, using the same words as before ?

"non white racist abuse " is there any other sort ?

anyway if I happen to bump into any old mates we might well get a bit nostalgic and indulge in a bit of banter over a few pints , as long as there is nobody like you earwigging that is ,

but if you are asking if i hurl racist abuse at random strangers in the street, well that's a pretty stupid question which I won't answer, I'll leave it to your imagination

2 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Oh, delightful.

The classic "if you point out a documented institutional failure I don't like, you must be a raging racist" card. How refreshing. It must be incredibly comfortable living in a world where complex operational paralysis can be swept under the rug as "absolute twaddle" because it doesn’t fit neatly into your pre-packaged ideological worldview.

Let's pause for a moment of silence for the sheer irony of you accusing anyone of avoiding facts while you completely hand-wave away the Jay Report, the Rochdale Inquiry, and the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) as just a "handful of issues."

Brilliant. I’m sure the thousands of victims in Rotherham, Rochdale, and Telford will be thrilled to know their decades of systemic abandonment by terrified, hand-wringing bureaucrats were just a minor blip—nothing to disrupt your preferred narrative, of course.

Nobody is disputing the Macpherson or Casey reports; the Met Police’s deep-seated structural issues are well-documented. But thank you for the comprehensive reading list anyway.

The glaring, spectacular blind spot in your argument is the inability to grasp a simple, dual reality: it is entirely possible for a police force to suffer from legacy institutional racism while simultaneously harboring an operational fear of being labeled racist that paralyzes their decision-making on the street.

This isn't a "white guys are the real victims" sob story.

This is about a documented, systemic neurosis where officers are so terrified of triggering an identity-politics firestorm that they default to caution, treat a non-white perpetrator's malicious lies as gospel, and leave a dying man handcuffed on his stomach.

But hey, why look at the catastrophic failure of basic operational common sense when you can just scream "echo chamber" and pretend the authorities haven't spent the last two decades admitting—in black and white—that the fear of a "racist" label completely distorts their ability to do their jobs?

Its not just the police and the other institutions, just cast your eye over this thread and the usual suspects are there, screaming racist at everybody, yet again Screaming racist at anonymous meaningless usernames , why do they do it ? is it virtue signalling? or something a bit more sinister ?

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

"non white racist abuse " is there any other sort ?

anyway if I happen to bump into any old mates we might well get a bit nostalgic and indulge in a bit of banter over a few pints , as long as there is nobody like you earwigging that is ,

but if you are asking if i hurl racist abuse at random strangers in the street, well that's a pretty stupid question which I won't answer, I'll leave it to your imagination

Thats why your a white honky bday lol.

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

I grew up in Liverpool in the 60's and 70's we had a sense of humour, racism wasn't a thing , taking the pi$$ out of each other was, we all gave as good as we got , I don't actually remember any "friendly" nicknames most were based on negative characteristics the most innocuous would be a shortened version of ones surname Yes some were indeed based on race and or skin colour and it was two way traffic like I said we gave as good as we got and racism didn't come into it.

Calling people, "golliwogs" ?

Its that "famous" scouse sense of humour .

Take your scouse sense of humour to places like Peckham in London and call them golliwogs , tell them you're scousers and just having laugh , see how you get one .

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Calling people, "golliwogs" ?

Its that "famous" scouse sense of humour .

Take your scouse sense of humour to places like Peckham in London and call them golliwogs , tell them you're scousers and just having laugh , see how you get one .

Behave yourself Nick of course people don't use words like that today. However Racism is still common in football.