July 1Jul 1 4 hours ago, John Drake said:He's not an American. Listen to him on the video. If anything, he's British.Hahaha, those are in every country possible
July 1Jul 1 2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:Do you know what "suppose" means? Google is your friend, hopefully 👍Of course I know what suppose means, and what's more I know how to use it correctly, you clearly do not. You didn't read or were unable to understand the op and were triggered by the word "swastika" you jumped to an incorrect conclusion "duh swastika must be german " 9 hours ago, newbee2022 said:I suppose the foreigner being a German. Swastika are unlawful in Germany and prosecuted.Here in Thailand common, you can buy Swastika on markets. Yes that is what you actually wrote , its barely english , if you are a native speaker, which I seriously doubt , you would understand that using the word "suppose" in that manner gives no indication of doubt or uncertainty nor does it equate to "if" or anything similar . The whole comment looks like it has been written by a 5 year old, I could write here and now, what you should have ,or maybe meant, to say but It's not my job to teach you English ! and you have the cheek to ask me if I know what "suppose" meansI suppose you must feel embarrassed now , but if you don't, then you certainly should, Unfortunately google can't cure stupid
July 1Jul 1 1 hour ago, kwilco said:In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, European scholars translated ancient Indian texts and noted similarities with German languages. They falsely concluded that ancient Germans and Indians shared a common, superior ancestry they called "Aryan". Because the swastika appeared in these ancient texts and early archaeological sites, extreme right-wing German nationalist groups adopted it as a symbol of supposed Aryan identity and pride.Bear in mind that the word "swastika" and the Thai "sawatdeekhrap" are in fact the same expression.สวัสดีครับ = notably there is no "t"letter - it's an "s" the same a swastikaThe Pali consonant t in Sawasdti is right here: สวัสด ีครับ.I do not want to bore everybody why end consonants from Pali religious loan words are what they are in Thai. But, that this is indeed a Pali end consonant, you can see in the other quite common use of the morning greeting: Arun Sawasdt (อรุณสวัสดิ์ = Good Morning (or more exakt: the dawn brings wellbeing).
July 1Jul 1 18 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:One other point that no-one seems to have pointed out, thus far:It seems that this "dude" is carrying and using a ladies handbag or purse, just as women do.What is THIS all about, anyway?Is there more to this than we might have thought, at first?Maybe someone insulted him, for example, for his choice of handbags.It's definitely NOT a Gucci bag, or is it?Gucci is very popular among some groups.Its probably one he had just stolen
July 1Jul 1 5 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:Yes.I agree with you, 100 PERCENT.However, one must go further.One must ask the question what may have caused this, as you put it, less than healthy psyche.Nothing happens for no reason in this world.There have been, over many years, and for many social and societal reasons, influences which have damaged the well-being and psyche of groups, ethnic groups, or socioeconomic groups, in various countries.Does this damage have an impact on the behavior of individuals and groups of individuals?How could it NOT have a huge impact.And, are many of these impacts "positive"?NO, they are very negative.When a child acts out, repeatedly, then we recognize the cause or causes for what they are.And, when we see what is happening here, then, once again, we recognize that there are causes, especially when such behavior is often exhibited by many individuals of one or another particular group.This is NOT rocket science.And, even though we might not like, or wish for, this reality....yet....still....This is the reality.And, we cannot change our existing reality through wishful thinking, nor by donning rose-colored glasses.To do so just helps to perpetuate the reality we might abhor.You’re barely hiding your racism. It starts with affiliating individuals in “groups,” then stereotyping those groups, and then imposing value judgments, which is precisely what you’re doing. In your post on cultures, you say that some cultures are simply better than others -- using the example of Boeing 747s (white people?) and grass skirts (Africans, maybe?). (And you make no sense here -- jet airplanes contribute significantly to global climate change and the destruction of habitats, whereas grass skirts have no environmental impact whatsoever. Guess it depends on how you define “better.”) As for the fellow in the video, he is creep for sure, and lacking any social skills, and whether the Thai woman with the backward-facing swastika on her ankle is aware of its meaning or not is immaterial. But, however wrongly, he is loudly protesting what he thinks is a symbol of Nazism. What did Nazism do again; what did it turn Europe into? A giant oven? What “culture” does it come from? White culture, which birthed pogroms and the Holocaust, not grass-skirted culture, right? Which is better again? You tell me. Not only is your racism showing, but you’ve got it pretty much backward.
July 1Jul 1 58 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:so Thai women are all closet nazis but not the men or it would be called a swastikrap ? Stop making stuff upWhat do you think I'm making up????
July 1Jul 1 2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:But why should she, she has been publicly wronged and insulted by an arrogant and impolite tourist , unfortunately for him she was more than capable of stringing a sentence together and he clearly did not expect her to stand up to him he;s gonna look a real loser when he gets back to "the hood" this will go viralEnough has been said in regards by me if you think that is her right just as it is yours to continue.
July 1Jul 1 2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:Well, I'm happy, if someone will understand you, and vv you will understand something.It is probably an easy life for you.Keep trying , you are not quite there yet, I am delighted that you are happy "If someone will understand me" and "I will understand something" Just in case you were asking, (it's actually not that clear, but as a native speaker I have made the assumption that you were asking). and therefore I will reply, Yes my life is easy
July 1Jul 1 4 minutes ago, thailand49 said:Enough has been said in regards by me if you think that is her right just as it is yours to continue.Errr yeah ok whatever you say . ???
July 1Jul 1 1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:so Thai women are all closet nazis but not the men or it would be called a swastikrap ? Stop making stuff upYou're confidently mocking something that's actually well established in historical linguistics.Swastika and Sawatdee do indeed share the same Sanskrit root: svasti (स्वस्ति), meaning well-being, good fortune, or may it be well.The word swastika is simply svasti plus the Sanskrit suffix -ka, which forms a noun referring to the auspicious symbol.Sawatdee is a modern Thai adaptation of the same root. In the 1930s, Phraya Upakit Silapasan coined it as a formal greeting by adapting svasti into Thai phonology and combining it with the Thai word dee ("good"). Men then add the polite particle khrab, while women add kha. Those particles are not connected to the word's origin.So no, it isn't "making stuff up." It's basic etymology.And your "swastikrap" joke falls apart because you're confusing a Sanskrit noun suffix (-ka) with a Thai polite particle (khrab). They are unrelated words from different languages with different grammatical functions that just happen to sound vaguely similar.Sometimes a quick look at the etymology is more useful than a cheap joke.
July 1Jul 1 25 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:The Pali consonant t in Sawasdti is right here: สวัสด ีครับ.I do not want to bore everybody why end consonants from Pali religious loan words are what they are in Thai. But, that this is indeed a Pali end consonant, you can see in the other quite common use of the morning greeting: Arun Sawasdt (อรุณสวัสดิ์ = Good Morning (or more exakt: the dawn brings wellbeing).it's an S and a silent D!
July 1Jul 1 10 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:t's totally wrong for any foreigner to call out a Thai for a tattoo of the Asian swastika, which is an ancient symbol of peace and prosperityexactly. there are buildings all over the usa with traditional swastikas, a navajo symbol too i believe. very few people here have real national socialist imagry tatooed on their bodies as obviously, such moronic lumpen loons arent prevalent in the population.
July 1Jul 1 37 minutes ago, Screaming said:And I moved to Thailand to get away from these "Saharan specimens." It seems that they now have invaded the Land of Smiles. A very sad day for Thailand.Much sadder that vile western racists walk among us here.
July 1Jul 1 5 minutes ago, kwilco said:You're confidently mocking something that's actually well established in historical linguistics.Swastika and Sawatdee do indeed share the same Sanskrit root: svasti (स्वस्ति), meaning well-being, good fortune, or may it be well.The word swastika is simply svasti plus the Sanskrit suffix -ka, which forms a noun referring to the auspicious symbol.Sawatdee is a modern Thai adaptation of the same root. In the 1930s, Phraya Upakit Silapasan coined it as a formal greeting by adapting svasti into Thai phonology and combining it with the Thai word dee ("good"). Men then add the polite particle khrab, while women add kha. Those particles are not connected to the word's origin.So no, it isn't "making stuff up." It's basic etymology.And your "swastikrap" joke falls apart because you're confusing a Sanskrit noun suffix (-ka) with a Thai polite particle (khrab). They are unrelated words from different languages with different grammatical functions that just happen to sound vaguely similar.Sometimes a quick look at the etymology is more useful than a cheap joke.I'm sure its fascinating , and If you give me your account number I will send you 10 baht. you can then use a phone box at no expense to yourself and make a call to somebody ,somewhere, who actually gives a damn, I can assure you i don't
July 1Jul 1 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:Much sadder that vile western racists walk among us here.So calling out bad behaviour is racist when the guilty party is black ? Had he been white and British it would be fine I see nothing "vile " in this thread except the black guys behavior towards the Thai woman in the video, long with a few lame attempts to either justify or mitigate it by some
July 1Jul 1 4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:So calling out bad behaviour is racist when the guilty party is black ? Had he been white and British it would be fineI never said that. Straw man garbage.
July 1Jul 1 7 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:I'm sure its fascinating , and If you give me your account number I will send you 10 baht. you can then use a phone box at no expense to yourself and make a call to somebody ,somewhere, who actually gives a damn, I can assure you i don'tSort code 30 99 66 acct No 15791360. Somehow I think to are all mouth and trousers.
July 1Jul 1 Another black Karen.The symbol has been around long before Hitler.The swastika is an ancient geometric symbol that is between 10,000 to 15,000 years old. Originally a symbol of good fortune and well-being, it was later appropriated by the Nazi Party in the 1930s
July 1Jul 1 36 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:, you say that some cultures are simply better than othersPlease re-check this.I believe that i did NOT say that one culture is BETTER than some other culture, since I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS.What I do believe is that there are no two cultures which are alike.I believe that each of us has the freedom to choose which cultures we prefer.I also identified that culture applies to various subsets of cultures, as for example:I refuse to accept the mind control we now find in many societies whereby all cultures are said to be equal, since they ARE NOT EQUAL.You, however, are free to believe whatever you wish.
July 1Jul 1 20 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:So calling out bad behaviour is racist when the guilty party is black ? Had he been white and British it would be fineCalling out bad behavior is not at all racist, regardless of who the badly behaving individual happens to be, in this case apparently a Black man. What’s racist is implying that his bad behavior is because he’s a Black man -- because he’s “sub-Saharan,” a “hoodie,” etc. etc. And there are plenty of people here saying exactly that. That too many of “this type” have invaded Thailand etc. That’s pure racism. Black people, unfortunately, are Homo sapiens just like the rest of us, and therefore are just as capable of bad behavior as, for instance, Anglo-Brits, or Euro-trash, or American rednecks.
July 1Jul 1 11 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:Sort code 30 99 66 acct No 15791360. Somehow I think to are all mouth and trousers. you have a higher opinion of me than i have of you , I tried sending the money I sent a bit more as I felt sorry for you but LLoyds wouldn't accept it , apparently due to my criminal record they think it might be drugs money so they sent it back, I think they may have frozen your account , how inconvenient for you
July 1Jul 1 2 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:Calling out bad behavior is not at all racist, regardless of who the badly behaving individual happens to be, in this case apparently a Black man. What’s racist is implying that his bad behavior is because he’s a Black man -- because he’s “sub-Saharan,” a “hoodie,” etc. etc. And there are plenty of people here saying exactly that. That too many of “this type” have invaded Thailand etc. That’s pure racism. Black people, unfortunately, are Homo sapiens just like the rest of us, and therefore are just as capable of bad behavior as, for instance, Anglo-Brits, or Euro-trash, or American rednecks.I have made no comments of that nature so save your outrage for those who have
July 1Jul 1 12 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:Calling out bad behavior is not at all racist, regardless of who the badly behaving individual happens to be, in this case apparently a Black man. What’s racist is implying that his bad behavior is because he’s a Black man -- because he’s “sub-Saharan,” a “hoodie,” etc. etc. And there are plenty of people here saying exactly that. That too many of “this type” have invaded Thailand etc. That’s pure racism. Black people, unfortunately, are Homo sapiens just like the rest of us, and therefore are just as capable of bad behavior as, for instance, Anglo-Brits, or Euro-trash, or American rednecks.why is it unfortunate that they are homo sapiens just like the rest of us? I dont feel unfortunate to be a homo sapien,
July 1Jul 1 16 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:Cory, FWIW white gentiles ARE the best.Other races can run fast etc. but stick to the facts.Without white gentile (western European) inventions you'd still be livng in a wigwam, eating grass and burning cow dung to stay warm.FACTS are racist - get over it.And as for the holly, to be clear, I'm not dEnyInG iT or saying nobody died and nobody cried but weird how none of the main leaders (Churchill, De Gaulle, Eisenhauer) mentioned it in their big fat books on WW2.Don't shoot the mesenger - I'm not God - just an observerYou're a bad observer and you know nothing about history. White gentiles have indeed had periods of brilliance, but so have any number of Asian and Semitic cultures, as well as African and Native cultures around the world. Likewise, all have been guilty of periods of depravity. And you're totally denying the Holocaust -- which starts with cherry-picking information and your cute little "holly" spelling.
July 1Jul 1 4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:why is it unfortunate that they are homo sapiens just like the rest of us? I dont feel unfortunate to be a homo sapien,My statement that <Black people, unfortunately, are Homo sapiens just like the rest of us> is rhetorical. It means that we are much more alike than we are different.
July 1Jul 1 26 minutes ago, Ubonian Canadian said:Another black Karen.The symbol has been around long before Hitler.The swastika is an ancient geometric symbol that is between 10,000 to 15,000 years old. Originally a symbol of good fortune and well-being, it was later appropriated by the Nazi Party in the 1930s I m surprised that no ones mentioned that before
July 1Jul 1 23 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:Please re-check this.I believe that i did NOT say that one culture is BETTER than some other culture, since I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS.What I do believe is that there are no two cultures which are alike.I believe that each of us has the freedom to choose which cultures we prefer.I also identified that culture applies to various subsets of cultures, as for example:I refuse to accept the mind control we now find in many societies whereby all cultures are said to be equal, since they ARE NOT EQUAL.You, however, are free to believe whatever you wish.You very much implied that white people's culture is better than Black people's culture, especially with all your racist comments elsewhere about how awful Black people are.
July 1Jul 1 1 hour ago, kwilco said:Your response shows you haven't understood a word I've said..i understood perfectly , I'm just not interested So understand that .
July 1Jul 1 3 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:You very much implied that white people's culture is better than Black people's culture, especially with all your racist comments elsewhere about how awful Black people are.No.I did not say this nor did I imply this.This is not what I believe.
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