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Aside from the Asian religious connections, the swastika appears in native american cultures, celtic beliefs, and norse mythology. That is why Jung considered it an archetype of the collective unconscious. And that is why it retains such a powerful attraction across so many societies.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Let's not get carried away.

There already has been an obviously politically motivated backlash against foreigners behaving badly. Scapegoating Indians and cutting visa free entry time seems like an own goal to me to a country so reliant on tourism. The recent horrific alleged murder of a Thai girl by an obviously disturbed Aussie has inflamed this situation dramatically.

It's a minority of foreigners that are a problem. Let's not forget that. We don't deserve collective punishment.

The collective punishment ie the visa restrictions are the first hit a kind of carpet bombing to remove the miscreants in bulk. clearing the way for a more targeted method like zero tolerance policing , which would otherwise have been overwhelmed,

It might seem counter productive to discourage indians, or anybody else , for a country that relies on tourism , but , I'm sure they have looked into this and calculated that on a cost / benefit basis they are better off without them. No different to a bar banning unwanted customers, after all, "the management reserve the right....|" an all that

If anyone here should visit San Francisco, you might want to check out the lobby of 450 Sutter Street, completed in 1929. I remember that I often noticed the hooked crosses there while waiting for the elevator, and I don't remember anyone complaining about them. They are apparently of Mayan origin and are unrelated to the Nazis.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/450-sutter-street

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Why should she have to explain it to ignoramuses such as the black man?

Regardless of him being black, now we weren't there to know as to how the guy approached her with his feeling but from the video we can assume!

As we know in general Thais aren't use to being criticized certainly if he did come off all funky like in the video in my book and that's my book if in fact it isn't a Nazi, and some religious that looks like it. If I know why and what it is certainly would attempt to let them know if he continues not to believe that is his choice I surely wouldn't pull out my phone and agitate the moron, ghetto, low education fellas as he is being label and rightfully so!

Look don't get me wrong Louie, I not one bit siding with the fellas but when I go to the zoo, you know want I mean

I've been around blacks my whole life in the States and lots of whites too been name called on lots of subject and thing even here LOL, I give everyone their moment one shot then if I'm wasting my time I walk away.

This uneducated gentleman is doing a great job of promoting his race at a high level😆😆😆

4 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

If I know why and what it is certainly would attempt to let them know if he continues not to believe that is his choice I surely wouldn't pull out my phone and agitate the moron, ghetto, low education fellas as he is being label and rightfully so!

Listen to the part of the video where the woman says, "this my country." She is taking a stand against foreign intimidation. Rightly so, in my opinion. This guy is yet another example of foreign arrogance, wealth, and privilege expecting the locals to roll over and behave as he demands they should. Letting this continue to fester without doing something tangible about it is indeed going to bring a reckoning that I don't want. Haul this guy and ilk out quickly, and make sure it is done with enough force to show these actions are not tolerated.

40 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

According to the op she did ....."During the exchange, the Thai woman explained that she did not understand the meaning of the symbol when she had the tattoo done. She also said she was legally entitled to have the tattoo in Thailand because there is no law banning the display of the symbol.

"the brother should have let it go " are you actually serious? What the brother should have done is Publicly apologised and offered to cover her bill as some form of compensation for this verbal assault Then begged on his knees to not be reported !

The matter may not be over yet, I hope her friends and family persuade her to take this matter further that idiot needs to be taught a lesson about how to behave

If that is the case I missed! But she could just avoided the whole thing and walked away. Is this guy worth the time to discuss I've been around blacks like him my whole life they want attention complain about the tattoo when he most likely is a racist himself nothing she could have done after that would make this guy happy except filming him.

I've been involved in this sport my whole life Basketball I've traveled my free time growing up to New York Harlem, L.A. Watts alone to watch and play with some of the best in pick up games I've heard the comments believe me guys like him are dime a dozens. Walk away their day will come sooner than later.

Just my take!

Deport the foreigner trouble maker immediately. He has no business to bring in his anger to Thailand.

3 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

Deport the foreigner trouble maker immediately. He has no business to bring in his anger to Thailand.

Yes.

I agree.

Most of us who come to Asia, East Asia, and SE Asia, come here to get away from just this type of disgusting behavior exhibited by the male in question in the video.

Agressive Farangs should be blacklisted.

5 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Listen to the part of the video where the woman says, "this my country." She is taking a stand against foreign intimidation. Rightly so, in my opinion. This guy is yet another example of foreign arrogance, wealth, and privilege expecting the locals to roll over and behave as he demands they should. Letting this continue to fester without doing something tangible about it is indeed going to bring a reckoning that I don't want. Haul this guy and ilk out quickly, and make sure it is done with enough force to show these actions are not tolerated.

I m all for taking a stand I do it here all the time 20 years but I do get irritated when I hear Thais use " this is Thailand or my country " anywhere if you want me to hear and learn then reason with me.

This is a point I have made raising my Thai son and those around me there is a right and wrong, maybe a even better way of doing things, you listen first and watch if it reasons it might be better try first.

I have made it a point that if he lived in U.S. I would never say accept it because you are in my country you do everything the American way. in many ways being Asians I've heard it growing up when they don't hear it right tell me to go back where I came from I've heard it from black and white I've even heard it here with Thais.

Am not taking side believe me the guy isn't relevant no matter how much he try he is filming him just feeds into his ego what he get I'm not loosing any sleep over him if he confronted me.

7 minutes ago, robz said:

Agressive Farangs should be blacklisted.

Yes....BUT.....

The male in question does not seem to be a Farang.

Or, would you say that I am mistaken on this point?

8 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

An unfortunate cultural misunderstanding. I did not know this before, but even the word swastika was adopted from the Sanskrit word Svastika. The difference between the Indian symbol and a swastika is that the spokes of the swastika wheel turn to the right whereas the Indian svastika spokes turn to the left. The spokes of the svastika the woman is wearing, (visible at the :10 second mark on the video) turn to the left.

The man displayed boorish behavior, used vulgar language and hand gestures, revealed an ignorance of the historical origin of the swastika, and sadly did damage to cross-cultural relations, but in today's political climate where far right wing politics are being embraced by some, shouldn't he at least be given a tiny bit of credit for having spoken out against what he believed to be was an endorsement of one of the most evil people to have ever walked the earth?

He is not the first person, and undoubtably will not be the last, to mistakenly read into the Indian symbol an embrace of Nazism, and many on the forum would be just as ignorant of this distinction as the man in the clip had this issue not arisen on this forum at various times in the past.

Do you know whether sawadee is from svasti in Sanskrit. My neighbor was talking about that once. Some Thai family names are Svasti and Sawadee.

How the Nazis treated black Germans.

Not as bad as Jews but still treated as racially inferior.

https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/stories/what-happened-black-germans-during-holocaust

30 minutes ago, ujay said:

This uneducated gentleman is doing a great job of promoting his race at a high level😆😆😆

Well he's certainly keeping it real a shining example

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

How the Nazis treated black Germans.

Not as bad as Jews but still treated as racially inferior.

https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/stories/what-happened-black-germans-during-holocaust

And, how the Chinese gov treats Black Africans, for that matter.

So, what is the point?

Obviously, skin color should make zero difference in treatment.

The question is, people are treated differently according to the behavior they exhibit.

Is this fair?

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

How the Nazis treated black Germans.

Not as bad as Jews but still treated as racially inferior.

https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/stories/what-happened-black-germans-during-holocaust

firstly he's not German and secondly he was not even born in those times That is such a very poor attempt to mitigate his behaviour I feel embarrassed just reading it

3 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

And, how the Chinese gov treats Black Africans, for that matter.

So, what is the point?

Obviously, skin color should make zero difference in treatment.

The question is, people are treated differently according to the behavior they exhibit.

Is this fair?

I was responding to a member who falsely asserted that Hitler didn't hate black people.

5 minutes ago, placnx said:

Do you know whether sawadee is from svasti in Sanskrit. My neighbor was talking about that once. Some Thai family names are Svasti and Sawadee.

Both words appear to have the same root. https://www.google.com/search?q=linguistic+root+of+sawasdee+in+thai+language&oq=linguistic+root+of+sawasdee+in+thai+language&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE1ODU2ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

6 minutes ago, placnx said:

He is not the first person, and undoubtably will not be the last, to mistakenly read into the Indian symbol an embrace of Nazism, and many on the forum would be just as ignorant of this distinction as the man in the clip had this issue not arisen on this forum at various times in the past

That is not the point . I am probably wrong ,but I like to think that the members of this forum would not go around verbally attacking Thai women for whatever tattoos they may have Regardless of what they may feel

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I was responding to a member who falsely asserted that Hitler didn't hate black people.

He despised them, of course.

Just recall the Olympics and what happened to whats his face...

Jesse Owens

But then, Hitler was not known for his enlightenment, I guess.

30 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Yes.

I agree.

Most of us who come to Asia, East Asia, and SE Asia, come here to get away from just this type of disgusting behavior exhibited by the male in question in the video.

Very much true. I don't want to walk into some place in Thailand and constantly need to be on the look out, as in the US, for some walking time bomb who has had a lifetime education that teaches him/her they have the right to attack people because of perceived slights.

7 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I suppose the foreigner being a German. Swastika are unlawful in Germany and prosecuted.

Here in Thailand common, you can buy Swastika on markets.

Not the left-pointing one, for obvious reasons.

It would not make sense to forbid it, because it is neither a Nazi nor a religious hate symbol. It is perfectly legal to own or display it here in Germany, this girl would have no problem at all to walk around with it (because we Germans actually learn in history lessons, how the "real", bad swastika looks like, and that it is symbolically derived from the racial theory that Sanskrit-speaking Info-Europeans were the first "Aryans").

Woulde it not be irony, if a symbol standing for peace would be forbidden as a hate symbol...? Germany has much too much bureaucracy, but we are not complete idiots.

39 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

But she could just avoided the whole thing and walked away

But why should she, she has been publicly wronged and insulted by an arrogant and impolite tourist , unfortunately for him she was more than capable of stringing a sentence together and he clearly did not expect her to stand up to him he;s gonna look a real loser when he gets back to "the hood" this will go viral

Off topic troll posts removed @BMW Overlander

@GammaGlobulin that the 3rd I had to remove that post, post it again and I will take further action.

7 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I suppose the foreigner being a German. Swastika are unlawful in Germany and prosecuted

And where, exactly, does it say he was german? He certainly doesn't sound german , and if he doesn't sound german then he probably isn't

23 minutes ago, placnx said:

Do you know whether sawadee is from svasti in Sanskrit. My neighbor was talking about that once. Some Thai family names are Svasti and Sawadee.

Indeed, it is derived from the same Pali/Sanskrit root, meaning "you (will be) good".

Interestingly, Sawasdee is not actually a very old form of greeting in Thailand, it was artificially created by the nationalist Phibum government.

To this day, the main greeting in Isaan for example is, "have you eaten yet?" (gin khaow bor?), which is the older, historical way of greeting in Thailand.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Anyone who has lived in Thailand or other nations that use that symbol religiously already knows that. It's not any kind of secret special knowledge. Understandable that many tourists don't know though.

Yep. You are making my point. The man in the video is likely not a long stayer (and is probably a tourist) and does need to educate himself va going off on an Asian women for a tattoo.

I don't know what she had but the Nazi and Buddhist symbols are similar but 180 degrees in orientation. He probably would not know that but even if she did have the "wrong" symbol it has nothing to do with the person who reported it..