4 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Great for feral cats too!

Catapults are more fun, anti freeze is more effective on large numbers

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Exactly, for a young girl from a provincial village, the bright lights and nightlife of Pattaya are very attractive, Its a very stimulating environment for them , a few don't take to it but most love it , They return home occasionally but generally they can't wait to get back

Take a look at her photos, she looked like a child !

17 !!!!!! not an adult with some knowledge of street working !

2 minutes ago, geisha said:

Take a look at her photos, she looked like a child !

17 !!!!!! not an adult with some knowledge of street working !

She looked like a 17 year old, which is what she was , her experience of sex work can not be established from a photo

8 minutes ago, JerryM said:

In general, Thailand law is based on compensatory damages and not punitive damages.

Well if I got bum raped and I had to chose between a life changing lump some of cash or an extended incarceration for my attackers, I would take the cash, and bide my time, until their release , then i would ensure justice was served

Take his money and even the score when he's finally released - sounds like a winning move to me.

15 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Well if I got bum raped and I had to chose between a life changing lump some of cash or an extended incarceration for my attackers, I would take the cash, and bide my time, until their release , then i would ensure justice was served

Maybe the attacker would argue for a smaller amount of cash because he enjoyed it.

6 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Maybe the attacker would argue for a smaller amount of cash because he enjoyed it.

Explain what you mean, it doesn't make sense. The attackers enjoyment should have no bearing on any compensation I received

4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Explain what you mean, it doesn't make sense. The attackers enjoyment should have no bearing on any compensation I received

And your comment had nothing to do with compensatory vs. punitive damages

The family should as a minimum to compensation of 5-10 * $43000au plus a minimum of 10 years spent with no parole.

8 hours ago, JerryM said:

This is described across several media while not the whole picture would not be unusual for any young girl growing up poor in Isaan:

Ms Oradee said her stepdaughter went to Pattaya on June 16, telling them she wanted to go for a holiday with her friend.

"She asked for money from her grandmother and she gave her some," Ms Oradee said.

"She said she wanted to see the sea."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-28/australian-man-charged-with-thai-teens-murder-addresses-family/106852274

look at her tats,
17 year old with a fake id stating she is 22
cruising the beach road at 2 am
going off with a farang to his condo

this is not what a average 17 year old issan girl does
this was not her first time walking the beach road, i can be 100% certain

all thai parents portray their girls working as good girls
the Australian press is loving this story on my x feed

Regardless of the hype and BS stories floating around, he stole a young girls life and should pay, unfortunately in Thailand
a life for a life doesn't always come about

as to how long he will serve if he pays
previous case 21 years ago

10 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Australian truck driver Simon Carman, 45, could receive a substantially reduced prison sentence if he is convicted of murdering Thai teenager Tunchanok Donhomla, 17, in Pattaya and reaches a compensation agreement with her family under Thai law.

Ought to start a GoFundMe for the parents but only if they do NOT accept any compensation, making sure the murderer gets what is coming to him.

In Thailand, a negotiated criminal settlement (known as compounding or mediation) does not result in punitive damages. Settlements strictly cover actual compensation (e.g., medical bills, property loss), while punitive damages are extremely rare and generally reserved only for specific civil claims like consumer protection cases

Understanding Damages in Thai Criminal Settlements

Compensatory Focus: When parties reach a settlement during a criminal case (often facilitated through the police or directly in court), the funds go toward compensatory damages. This includes specific material or moral damages designed to make the victim whole.

24 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

this was not her first time walking the beach road, i can be 100% certain

The parents said this was her first trip away from home. Maybe that will be proved false. But it hasn't as yet.

But in the long run as far as the crime goes it doesn't make any difference.

And it seems no one has come forward to say they saw her on all her previous trips.

3 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

its like shopping at a market few pay the initial asking price, you can't hold that against him

Yes but 1000 Baht for short time? I don't know the current market rate for freelancers in PATS is but it's gotta be more than 1K? "Cheap Charlie? Quality tourist? Good guys in etc, etc. Where is his family with the usual "He is agood guy, this is not the person I knew etc, etc? So far radio silence from AUS.

22 minutes ago, JerryM said:

In Thailand, a negotiated criminal settlement (known as compounding or mediation) does not result in punitive damages. Settlements strictly cover actual compensation (e.g., medical bills, property loss), while punitive damages are extremely rare and generally reserved only for specific civil claims like consumer protection cases

Understanding Damages in Thai Criminal Settlements

Compensatory Focus: When parties reach a settlement during a criminal case (often facilitated through the police or directly in court), the funds go toward compensatory damages. This includes specific material or moral damages designed to make the victim whole.

No amount of money will help the murdered girl or bring her back Should the parents get anything? of course they should , The girl may not have had any dependents that she was responsible for , but in years to come when the parents are elderly, would she not have been at least partly responsible for their welfare costs in their old age ?

5 hours ago, JJ-Thailand said:

This is not the first time this has happened in Pattaya:
In 2005, Swedish man Kenneth Eriksson was convicted of manslaughter after a Thai woman’s body was hidden in a suitcase. He received 5 years in prison after a guilty plea.

If that one was manslaughter and he got 5 years, if this latest case ends up in a guilty murder charge, he should get a lot more than 5 years. Far more serious charge.

2 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Yes but 1000 Baht for short time? I don't know the current market rate for freelancers in PATS is but it's gotta be more than 1K? "Cheap Charlie? Quality tourist? Good guys in etc, etc. Where is his family with the usual "He is agood guy, this is not the person I knew etc, etc? So far radio silence from AUS.

The silence is indeed deafening , so he is obviously not universally lauded as a saint , He may well be a cheap charlie ,and low quality tourist , but that's hardly worth mentioning under the circumstances , It's a bit like mentioning that Jeffrey Dahmer had unpaid parking tickets

Its a long time since I was mongering in Pattaya and I have no idea about current prices but 1000bt seems fair enough I wouldn't pay anymore, I certainly wouldn't try knocking any of them down on price I never did, its counter productive, having sex with somebody you just pissed off, Better to walk away and pick a cheaper one

But if one intended to do away them anyway why worry what they charge

In my books murder deserves the death penalty. Manslaughter a significant sentence. By definition murder is an act that was to intentionally take some ones life manslaughter does not have that intent.

15 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

If that one was manslaughter and he got 5 years, if this latest case ends up in a guilty murder charge, he should get a lot more than 5 years. Far more serious charge.

its a far more serious charge and we are currently in the middle of a crackdown and heightened media attention, He looking at serious time without doubt

25 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Yes but 1000 Baht for short time? I don't know the current market rate for freelancers in PATS is but it's gotta be more than 1K? "Cheap Charlie? Quality tourist? Good guys in etc, etc. Where is his family with the usual "He is agood guy, this is not the person I knew etc, etc? So far radio silence from AUS.

Many on Thaifriendly in the 18 to 25 age range will do ST for Bt.1000.00

29 minutes ago, JerryM said:

The parents said this was her first trip away from home. Maybe that will be proved false. But it hasn't as yet.

But in the long run as far as the crime goes it doesn't make any difference.

Absolutely correct, the only thing I can think of that might make any difference to his fate is if there was cctv footage of her attacking him with a knife or similar , and there's not

It's irrelevant how many times she's been to Pattaya or how many punters she's serviced it should not even be mentioned

Regardless of the amount that this creep pays to the family, in no way does it mitigate the heinous crime that he committed.

A reasonable judge would not take compensation payment into consideration when it comes to sentencing.

I just can't see that happening, and I've spent a fair bit of time looking into how these agreements actually work.

Yes, if he pleads guilty, the death penalty could be reduced to life imprisonment. But the evidence against him appears overwhelming, so a conviction seems highly likely.

Given the international attention this case has attracted, I think the Thai authorities will want to demonstrate that violent crime against visitors is dealt with firmly. I can't see a judge handing down a dramatically reduced sentence simply because compensation is paid.

As for serving his sentence in Australia, that's not how it works. Under the prisoner transfer arrangements, he can't simply be sent home after a few years. He would first have to serve a significant part of his sentence in Thailand before he could even apply for a transfer.

Any transfer would also require the agreement of both the Thai and Australian governments.

For those reasons, I don't believe there's any realistic prospect of him being back in Australia after seven years, and certainly not avoiding a lengthy spell in a Thai prison.

In Thailand, an indigent criminal defendant cannot be ordered to pay compensatory damages within a criminal trial.

Key Options for Indigent Defendants in Thailand

1. Immunity from Victim Compensation in Criminal Court Under Section 44/1 of the Thai Criminal Procedure Code, crime victims can request that the court order the offender to pay compensation for their injuries, liberty loss, or property damage. However, this coercive motion cannot be successfully enforced if the accused is indigent. Victims must pursue these claims through a separate civil lawsuit instead. https://www.samuiforsale.com/law-texts/thai-criminal-procedure-code.html

5 hours ago, grain said:

So where's the dosh coming from to pay this compensation? The guy's on a Centerlink support pension, he was living in a hovel, walking around in shorts & flipflops, picking up cheapo freelancers from the streets, and quibbling over 500 Bt.

He would likely have Superannuation,it can be accessed in emergency

Everyone that works in Australia has 12% of their salary paid to the government and can access at 60 or in emergency

The parents seem more interested in money than seeking justice for their daughter?

32 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Regardless of the amount that this creep pays to the family, in no way does it mitigate the heinous crime that he committed.

A reasonable judge would not take compensation payment into consideration when it comes to sentencing.

Mmmm ..they say many do depending on of course if they accept the "compensation/ bribe "

3 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

The parents seem more interested in money than seeking justice for their daughter?

They are poor and she is dead. Jail doesnt help them.

6 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

The parents seem more interested in money than seeking justice for their daughter?

The parents are back in Kalasin and there is no indication they have been involved in any compensation discussions.

6 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

They are poor and she is dead. Jail doesnt help them.

He has his Superannuation he can access