Just clicked on one of the Clown's links in the 'newbies' thread and saw Khall's little dancing rose and felt sad... she moved back to Oz this week so we might notsee her in a while. I miss Khall

Good for her. I wish her all the best. There is definitely a transition time that can last from several months to a couple of years, so I'm sure we will be seeing her again at some point. I look forward to her stories.

Good for her. I wish her all the best. There is definitely a transition time that can last from several months to a couple of years, so I'm sure we will be seeing her again at some point. I look forward to her stories.

You mean from LOS to the Homeland, right? BTW, you went back to American didn't you? Miss LOS yet?

I miss my friends, and I miss how easy it was to make a living. I also miss the easy travel.

I miss my friends, and I miss how easy it was to make a living. I also miss the easy travel.

Easy to make a living? I think that is the first time I havce heard that. Do you mind explaining how? I have been told so many times that my history degrees will not help me and by moving my family to LOS we will be poor indeed. Not like I an going to make a killing here in the states as a history prof. LOL

Kat moved back to the US.

Khall's gone back to OZ.

Seonai (O.P) is back in the UK.

Bebops has never yet been to LOS.

Kayo's back in the UK.

...

Bops, I lived a better lifestyle in (both) LOS (and Guatemala) than I ever have in a "developed" country.

Perhaps not always with legitimate paperwork, but almost always as a hard working, and (relatively) well earning person.

and im going to bali to live soon too....another one out of here.

so many people leaving ,do they know something us mortals dont

probably not lazeeboy. ive just had enough. been here over 8 years and its time to leave before i become bitter and twisted. ive loved my time here but the time to leave has come. im not angry, bitter or anything like that, but i have realised that its a lonely place to live as a western woman (especially on phuket).

im going out with a bang, not a whimper!

Selamat Jalan - Sampai Jumpa

(You should find Bahasa a piece of cake to learn after Thai)

Cheers & Chok Dee Khrap

Unc.

terimah kasih banyak. saya bisa bahasa indonesia sudah sedikit sedikit. saya belajar delapan tahun (ago) di australia.

Bloody Bagus Donna

I miss my friends, and I miss how easy it was to make a living. I also miss the easy travel.

Easy to make a living? I think that is the first time I havce heard that. Do you mind explaining how? I have been told so many times that my history degrees will not help me and by moving my family to LOS we will be poor indeed. Not like I an going to make a killing here in the states as a history prof. LOL

Well, a lot of the jobs were shit in LOS, and the Thai bureaucracy batty with no concept of fairness or professionalism, but it was easy to survive and even have fun. Here I had a highly professional job, made lots of money, and was miserable every day. I left that job, and am now living off savings while I look for another professional job, and you would think that I am a leper or something over here. This attitude is perceptible even among so-called "liberals." Amazing stuff - I should write a book to reflect it all back to their faces, but of course their liberal minds would only recognize "other" insensitive, elitist bastards.

probably not lazeeboy. ive just had enough. been here over 8 years and its time to leave before i become bitter and twisted. ive loved my time here but the time to leave has come. im not angry, bitter or anything like that, but i have realised that its a lonely place to live as a western woman (especially on phuket).

im going out with a bang, not a whimper!

good for you Donna. I wish you all the best. I think you will like Bali - it's beautiful, and there are interesting and creative expats there who are attracted to design and Balinese culture.

Thanks for the vid, Robski - Chrissy Hines - love it!

Kat moved back to the US.

Khall's gone back to OZ.

Seonai (O.P) is back in the UK.

Bebops has never yet been to LOS.

Kayo's back in the UK.

...

Bops, I lived a better lifestyle in (both) LOS (and Guatemala) than I ever have in a "developed" country.

Perhaps not always with legitimate paperwork, but almost always as a hard working, and (relatively) well earning person.

You be sure an' all come back now,,,,,,,,,,

Thanks for the vid, Robski - Chrissy Hines - love it!

If you let it play to the end in the menu that comes up there is a beautiful rendition of 'back on the chain gang'

I found a picture of you, oh oh oh oh

Those were the happiest days of my life

Like a break in the battle was your part, oh oh oh oh

In the wretched life of a lonely heart

Now we're back on the train

Oh, back on the chain gang

Kat moved back to the US.

Khall's gone back to OZ.

Seonai (O.P) is back in the UK.

Bebops has never yet been to LOS.

Kayo's back in the UK.

...

Bops, I lived a better lifestyle in (both) LOS (and Guatemala) than I ever have in a "developed" country.

Perhaps not always with legitimate paperwork, but almost always as a hard working, and (relatively) well earning person.

I believe you. I am after the simple life, the mai pen rai, sanook life. I sick to death of how we live in America, free my ass. Wage slaves and cubical punks. Yeah, I believe you.

I miss my friends, and I miss how easy it was to make a living. I also miss the easy travel.

Easy to make a living? I think that is the first time I havce heard that. Do you mind explaining how? I have been told so many times that my history degrees will not help me and by moving my family to LOS we will be poor indeed. Not like I an going to make a killing here in the states as a history prof. LOL

Well, a lot of the jobs were shit in LOS, and the Thai bureaucracy batty with no concept of fairness or professionalism, but it was easy to survive and even have fun. Here I had a highly professional job, made lots of money, and was miserable every day. I left that job, and am now living off savings while I look for another professional job, and you would think that I am a leper or something over here. This attitude is perceptible even among so-called "liberals." Amazing stuff - I should write a book to reflect it all back to their faces, but of course their liberal minds would only recognize "other" insensitive, elitist bastards.

Oh please tell me more please! I know it might seem strange to ask about what these 'liberals' are saying but it is one of my pet peeves. I can not bring myself to support neo-cons yet liberals in America really make me sick. They live in their own little bubble of BS while floating arounf telling others how to live their lives, no different from neo-cons, no? Many here think I am just abnormal in my views, but than I am taking to other Americans who have yet to leave their state let alone their country. So, please tell me am I right? What do you see in these liberals? What are talking about? I am not crazy am I?

Have you ever read 'How Mumbo Jumbo Conquered The World' by Francis Wheen?

A darkly funny and insightful look at the dumbing down of British and US society in the last 25+ years.

A quality read. Now mediocrity and incredulity rule the world there's only one thing for it.. Switch off, tune out, stay cool.

No, you're not crazy. I see a lot of hypocrisy of the sort that I described above. Our culture doesn't support deviating from what everyone is "supposed" to be doing, like working while miserable and being enslaved by debt, mortgages, or family obligations. I have none of the above or the benefits, so I think it's my business if I want to take advantage of the "low overhead, maximum flexibility" way of life. They pretty much don't understand it, and I feel that they silently judge, or do it behind my back. It's hard to be unemployed here, even if you are pulling your own weight and doing everything you can. People who have never taken a risk or stepped outside the fold do not understand it, but judge anyway. It's hard to be a risk-taker in this society, until you win - then everyone loves you, but they don't understand that the winner has usually fallen down many times before victory.

I have to go and complete Ph. D applications. I am trying to completely change my life and get away from the professional environments that I have come to despise. Talk later.

EDIT: HAHA Kat and I posted very similar things at the same time! *end Edit

Nah bops, you are not crazy.

i think I get what Kat was saying. Although I've done a good job in adapting to being back in the UK - one must - I still feel like a bit of an outsider. The folk I get on best with are those that do not call this country their home. Those that either have lived extensively abroad, or those who are foreign to these shores. And even some of these latter foreigners are more at home here than I am.

It's not any one thing, but the world here changed while I was away. I didn't "conform".

I didn't finish my a-levels, go to Uni, get the first job out of uni...

I come back and still speak like I did ten years ago. I don't even know, half the time, when I'm being "politically insensitive" or what not. That's all changed.

I don't get this concept of - as a pedestrian - stopping at little red man. I stop if there's traffic, and I look both ways, I do.... or walking when green man beeps at me. I keep checking to see if it's my mobile phone going off; Oh, another ten messages from work and housemates asking me where I am or what I am doing...

I don't really fit in, though I've fit myself in.

Take two of my favourite past-times, for example.

Many a day and night, I've spent on the shores of Lake Atitlan, or on the beach on Koh Chang, or down by the River in Kanchaburi, just drinking beer & whisky in large quantities, and listening to my favourite tunes, or new tunes while not really doing anything else.

Sometimes in the company of others, sometimes alone.

Folk here don't understand that. I'm supposed to be doing something, anything, productive in my spare time... Anything... As long as I'm doing something.

Well, Feckyou velly much, I've worked my 65 hours and paid my taxes... I'm quite happy sitting with a crate of beer and my playlists handy. Don't bother me and I won't bother you...

I dunno.

Oh

No, you're not crazy. I see a lot of hypocrisy of the sort that I described above. Our culture doesn't support deviating from what everyone is "supposed" to be doing, like working while miserable and being enslaved by debt, mortgages, or family obligations. I have none of the above or the benefits, so I think it's my business if I want to take advantage of the "low overhead, maximum flexibility" way of life. They pretty much don't understand it, and I feel that they silently judge, or do it behind my back. It's hard to be unemployed here, even if you are pulling your own weight and doing everything you can. People who have never taken a risk or stepped outside the fold do not understand it, but judge anyway. It's hard to be a risk-taker in this society, until you win - then everyone loves you, but they don't understand that the winner has usually fallen down many times before victory.

I have to go and complete Ph. D applications. I am trying to completely change my life and get away from the professional environments that I have come to despise. Talk later.

I'm with you on that one sister!

(She's sooooo cool )

Have you ever read 'How Mumbo Jumbo Conquered The World' by Francis Wheen?

A darkly funny and insightful look at the dumbing down of British and US society in the last 25+ years.

A quality read. Now mediocrity and incredulity rule the world there's only one thing for it.. Switch off, tune out, stay cool.

I have been told about this but have yet to read it. Now with yet another recommendation I move it up the list of things to read. Thanks Robski!

No, you're not crazy. I see a lot of hypocrisy of the sort that I described above. Our culture doesn't support deviating from what everyone is "supposed" to be doing, like working while miserable and being enslaved by debt, mortgages, or family obligations. I have none of the above or the benefits, so I think it's my business if I want to take advantage of the "low overhead, maximum flexibility" way of life. They pretty much don't understand it, and I feel that they silently judge, or do it behind my back. It's hard to be unemployed here, even if you are pulling your own weight and doing everything you can. People who have never taken a risk or stepped outside the fold do not understand it, but judge anyway. It's hard to be a risk-taker in this society, until you win - then everyone loves you, but they don't understand that the winner has usually fallen down many times before victory.

I have to go and complete Ph. D applications. I am trying to completely change my life and get away from the professional environments that I have come to despise. Talk later.

Yes,yes thank you!! America loves a winner but we punish the losers and the losers are just future winners if they got they got the hlep they need. When they do win we forget what we did and said to them before, because they are winners now, worth listening to now. The only homeless people who get help are the ones they can get on Oprah and Montel! Forgot about the rest, they aren't trying hard enough!!

Sorry, you have caught me in one of my burn the white house moods. I am so ready for the revolution.

Phd yes, great idea. That is what I will be working on after a few more years. I don't want to work for companies, just colleges from here on out. What will your Phd cover?

EDIT: HAHA Kat and I posted very similar things at the same time! *end Edit

Nah bops, you are not crazy.

i think I get what Kat was saying. Although I've done a good job in adapting to being back in the UK - one must - I still feel like a bit of an outsider. The folk I get on best with are those that do not call this country their home. Those that either have lived extensively abroad, or those who are foreign to these shores. And even some of these latter foreigners are more at home here than I am.

It's not any one thing, but the world here changed while I was away. I didn't "conform".

I didn't finish my a-levels, go to Uni, get the first job out of uni...

I come back and still speak like I did ten years ago. I don't even know, half the time, when I'm being "politically insensitive" or what not. That's all changed.

I don't get this concept of - as a pedestrian - stopping at little red man. I stop if there's traffic, and I look both ways, I do.... or walking when green man beeps at me. I keep checking to see if it's my mobile phone going off; Oh, another ten messages from work and housemates asking me where I am or what I am doing...

I don't really fit in, though I've fit myself in.

Take two of my favourite past-times, for example.

Many a day and night, I've spent on the shores of Lake Atitlan, or on the beach on Koh Chang, or down by the River in Kanchaburi, just drinking beer & whisky in large quantities, and listening to my favourite tunes, or new tunes while not really doing anything else.

Sometimes in the company of others, sometimes alone.

Folk here don't understand that. I'm supposed to be doing something, anything, productive in my spare time... Anything... As long as I'm doing something.

Well, Feckyou velly much, I've worked my 65 hours and paid my taxes... I'm quite happy sitting with a crate of beer and my playlists handy. Don't bother me and I won't bother you...

I dunno.

Oh

I hear ya, Brother!! My spare time is for me to enjoy life, that is the most productive thing anyone can do , because none of the other sh!t matters when you die and none of the toys they wanting us to keep buying can go with us. I believe that that sunset by the water and cold drink with warm company can go with us where ever we go. A moment of love and peace will last till the end of time if need be.

No, you're not crazy. I see a lot of hypocrisy of the sort that I described above. Our culture doesn't support deviating from what everyone is "supposed" to be doing, like working while miserable and being enslaved by debt, mortgages, or family obligations. I have none of the above or the benefits, so I think it's my business if I want to take advantage of the "low overhead, maximum flexibility" way of life. They pretty much don't understand it, and I feel that they silently judge, or do it behind my back. It's hard to be unemployed here, even if you are pulling your own weight and doing everything you can. People who have never taken a risk or stepped outside the fold do not understand it, but judge anyway. It's hard to be a risk-taker in this society, until you win - then everyone loves you, but they don't understand that the winner has usually fallen down many times before victory.

I have to go and complete Ph. D applications. I am trying to completely change my life and get away from the professional environments that I have come to despise. Talk later.

I'm with you on that one sister!

(She's sooooo cool )

Yes, she is. I remember when we had some beef and that makes me sad, shouldn't have happened. We got over that though and now I can say she is on the top of my list to have a good conversation with. Cheers Kat, hope all work out of ya!

I've tried revolution and it's just another layer of BS, but without the comforts,

I don't want to overthrow authority, I just don't wan't to have anything to do with it.

Give me music, curry and love, the rest is just so much noise...

Wherever it is you ladies are headed too, fer gawds sake don't buy a television when you get there.

I've tried revolution and it's just another layer of BS, but without the comforts,

I don't want to overthrow authority, I just don't wan't to have anything to do with it.

Give me music, curry and love, the rest is just so much noise...

Wherever it is you ladies are headed too, fer gawds sake don't buy a television when you get there.

Hear, hear!!!

I've tried revolution and it's just another layer of BS, but without the comforts,

I don't want to overthrow authority, I just don't wan't to have anything to do with it.

Give me music, curry and love, the rest is just so much noise...

Wherever it is you ladies are headed too, fer gawds sake don't buy a television when you get there.

No, now we have You Tube. But, its been brilliant for the free music. Go and download Iva Bittova with Fajt, Duet, Morning Song, Prodem Melaka. She is brilliant, crazy and beautiful. Imagine if convention was to obliterate everyone?

But, I'm with Robski on authority. I

Peace my brothers.

People come people go

I am just having my show

But you never know

When it's time for me to let go.

Bad bad poem! Just something at 4 in the morning I could think of after all these sad, goodbying, I'm moving, I'm leaving LOS. Doesn't matter where you are 'be safe, be happy, be loved'.

My big legs call LOS home

"Doesn't matter where you are 'be safe, be happy, be loved'."

Yeah - I like that! All the best to you.