Traffic Shaping Also On Maxnet Premier?

[sleepyjohn]

Hi from CM

thinking of upgrading from 790bt Indy to lowest Premier at 1090bt as I heard traffic shaping inhibits foreign traffic on Maxnet Indy so making for poor video downloads for instance.

Is this a good move?

Is Maxnet Premier shaping free or not? Is it advantageous in other ways?

thanks john

Edited May 6, 2008 by sleepyjohn

[monty]

They will do traffic shaping on premier as well, but to a much lesser extend.

They don't shape foreign traffic per se, the reason for that being slow on indy is the amount of other subscribers you share a line with!

With premier the sharing ratio is much lower.

The shaping they most likely only do on P2P applications, not on streaming media.

Your international access will greatly improve with premier!

[Veazer]

Remember though it's not correct to see traffic shaping in general as an evil, it's just a means of prioritizing traffic. It's important that time critical data like VoIP traffic has higher priority than traffic that is less time-critical such as ftp.

[croftrobin]

FTP is used by many people / companies to synch data between local and remote sites/servers and to them it would have a higher priority than Voip traffic, where various codecs are available to applications which can switch up and down as required when bandwidth is throttled/ opened without much apparent degradation in clarity.

I think you will find that ftp traffic in Thailand is never affected by shaping. - But do not suddenly change your p2p port to the ftp port as you may find that manual intervention occurs and will take a lot of phone calls to sort out!!

Remember though it's not correct to see traffic shaping in general as an evil, it's just a means of prioritizing traffic. It's important that time critical data like VoIP traffic has higher priority than traffic that is less time-critical such as ftp.

[Upcountry]

I have Maxnet Indy 2048/512, and shaping has slowed my BitTorrents so badly that my client is invisible to some trackers (avoiding details here so I don't get biffed). I use Pando for file transfers, and lately these have halted almost 100%.

So, I've gotten fed up, and decided to try TOT. Today I called TOT and spoke to a support representative there. He explained clearly that BitTorrent is shaped, not blocked, based on the amount of traffic, and that this varies per area. So someone in a zone where many other users are creating traffic will experience slower torrent speeds than someone in a zone with less traffic going on. I couldn't get him to tell me if this decision was made locally or not.

In contrast, when I tried to get TT&T support to admit that the traffic shape, I had to wait for someone to call me back. Hours later I was told that I should move up to Premier 1024/512 in order to get better international speeds. This jives with what others on this and/or other forum threads about Premier throttling back a little less.

I guess a lot of factors play a role, including modem, etc., and also general international traffic or problems going on.

I can't afford the 1236 or 2048 Premier prices, so I would like to find out if, in general, the 1024/412 Premier package is a good choice. The compromise is obviously that the down speed is half that of Indy 2048, so in theory we are giving up some general speed for better international access. Is it a good trade-off?

I wonder if I'll be able to view YouTube etc. very well. Probably not, more like the old Indy 1024 days I saw. But if BitTorrent and the like will actually not get squashed, maybe it is the way to go.

-UC

[dogleg]

Yes, I would be interested in anyone's actual experience in upgrading.

Unfortunately, for me , they have restricted my Voip, vpn, and remote desktop to my US office to be unusable on Indy 1024/512 (+upgraded free a while back).

FTp goes like a rocket!

No such problems on my alternate equivalent package with TOT - so far.

A friend has just signed up to go on lowest Premier package and has eta of May 16th. we'll let you know how it goes.

[dogleg]

I'd like to shape streaming tv, bitTorrent, youtube and all with a nuke!

did I say that out loud?

[oMega69]

Any news on Bitorrent on Premier package? works good or not ? . . "1024" . thx 4 replay.

[Upcountry]

Okay, I upgraded to Maxnet Premier 1024/512. It took effect on Saturday, so I've had a weekend and four weekdays to test it.

For me, so far, it is a dramatic improvement. BitTorrent, etc. started working again at a reasonable clip. Pando flies, relatively speaking.

I found that I could carry on a good Skype Out conversation overseas while running Pando, BitTorrent and FTP at the same time. Sometimes email doesn't want to connect (Eudora, anit-virus proxy, overseas mail host), but a bit of persistence on my part got the email within a couple of minutes or so - with Indy it could take hours. I'm getting better performance with youtube and other streaming video, albeit with some buffering (but not enough to make me give up).

I still may be speaking too soon, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

As they say, "your mileage may vary". Since I'm in the provinces, maybe my Premier setup is in an area with little competition (assuming I'm separated from the Indy crowd with this account). But I'm certainly in the pool with all others who are trying to get international access.

It could also change as a bot or tech somewhere in the TT&T cloud decides that I'm doing too much torrent stuff, etc. I can only speak about my current experience.

Needless to say, it is clear that TT&T isn't kidding when it states that the Premier package is designed to give better international bandwidth.

Hope this helps.

-UC

[Theyreallrubbish]

Okay, I upgraded to Maxnet Premier 1024/512. It took effect on Saturday, so I've had a weekend and four weekdays to test it.

For me, so far, it is a dramatic improvement. BitTorrent, etc. started working again at a reasonable clip. Pando flies, relatively speaking.

I found that I could carry on a good Skype Out conversation overseas while running Pando, BitTorrent and FTP at the same time. Sometimes email doesn't want to connect (Eudora, anit-virus proxy, overseas mail host), but a bit of persistence on my part got the email within a couple of minutes or so - with Indy it could take hours. I'm getting better performance with youtube and other streaming video, albeit with some buffering (but not enough to make me give up).

I still may be speaking too soon, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

As they say, "your mileage may vary". Since I'm in the provinces, maybe my Premier setup is in an area with little competition (assuming I'm separated from the Indy crowd with this account). But I'm certainly in the pool with all others who are trying to get international access.

It could also change as a bot or tech somewhere in the TT&T cloud decides that I'm doing too much torrent stuff, etc. I can only speak about my current experience.

Needless to say, it is clear that TT&T isn't kidding when it states that the Premier package is designed to give better international bandwidth.

Hope this helps.

-UC

I have the same package in Chiang mai and find that bittorrent runs at the full advertised bandwidth providing there are enough seeds. Much better than my 20MB package in the UK which peaked at a quarter of the advertised bandwidth for P2P.

I also use truphone for VOIP calls through my mobile via my router and it works perfectlt with perfect clarity and no dropped calls.

I do have an issue that I need to reset the router quite frequently but I'm presuming this is a router issue.

[dogleg]

My friend in Pattaya got the TTT Premier 1024/512 package, and I'm going for it now.

Much improved International speeds all round and especially my pt to pt voip, vpn and remote desktop work properly.

Hooray!!

pings to LA about half the time of the TOT 'basic ' (1000Baht) package - which I previously thought was OK.