Collapsed Libido

[sbk]

We will drop the personal attacks here. Indeed, eek should not have responded to what was clearly a personal attack but rather used the report button to report the inflammatory comment.

So, drop the abuse, the flames and the nastiness. thanks

[toptuan]

As a young man, my libido was zilch (shall we say "neutral gear?") from puberty to 30.

At thirty, it kicked into first gear.

Things progressed until at 53 the "drive" shirted into high gear (arrived in Thailand that year, coincidentally), and now approaching 60, I rather feel like I'm in overdrive. I wake up with a woody in the morning just like my 16-year-old buddies complained about 40 years ago. Now all my buddies are grandfathers, and I'm dating like a love-struck teeny-bopper.

What's happening to me? Will I break out with acne at 70? Should I start estrogen treatments?

Edit: Added supporting detail

Edited April 8, 2009 by toptuan

[bkkjames]

Libido was zilch (shall we say "neutral gear?") from puberty to 30.

At thirty, it kicked into first gear.

Things progressed until at 53 the "drive" shirted into high gear (arrived in Thailand that year, coincidentally), and now approaching 60, I rather feel like I'm in overdrive.

What's happening to me? Will I break out with acne at 70?

no but you may need glasses

[eek]

Tnx patklang. Really was a nasty retaliation on my part. I was using some cliches as a sarcastic response.

bkkjames, you read me wrong. I wholeheartedly believe that men can be faithful, i was using a general consensus that ive so often read on ThaiVisa. I was being sarcastic. Again, said in retaliation.

Anyway..sorry all.

[toptuan]

Libido was zilch (shall we say "neutral gear?") from puberty to 30.

At thirty, it kicked into first gear.

Things progressed until at 53 the "drive" shirted into high gear (arrived in Thailand that year, coincidentally), and now approaching 60, I rather feel like I'm in overdrive.

What's happening to me? Will I break out with acne at 70?

no but you may need glasses

It's great living in a country where age (and ugliness) doesn't seem to be a barrier to younger admirers. Can't be the money--I don't have a baht to my name.

Edited April 8, 2009 by toptuan

[bkkjames]

Tnx patklang. Really was a nasty retaliation on my part. I was using some cliches as a sarcastic response.

bkkjames, you read me wrong. I wholeheartedly believe that men can be faithful, i was using a general consensus that ive so often read on ThaiVisa. I was being sarcastic. Again, said in retaliation.

Anyway..sorry all.

eek, that's your biggest mistake. do believe men on TV are pigs - I know - I am one.

[toptuan]

Tnx patklang. Really was a nasty retaliation on my part. I was using some cliches as a sarcastic response.

bkkjames, you read me wrong. I wholeheartedly believe that men can be faithful, i was using a general consensus that ive so often read on ThaiVisa. I was being sarcastic. Again, said in retaliation.

Anyway..sorry all.

eek, that's your biggest mistake. do believe men on TV are pigs - I know - I am one.

And pigs with acne are the worst...

[taxexile]

A POUND OF LARD SLOBBERING OVER HER BODY.?????

when dealing with an overweight partner, a proper lady would do the decent thing and climb on.

i know of 2 old guys here , one a rotund italian man in his late 60's who works his charm and sets the mood by buying his girlfriends plenty of ice cream, he says thai girls like nothing better than licking the nuts off a large neapolitan.

another guy, english, about 70, very active but quite grumpy when on the phone to his girlfriends, however he says thai girls have no trouble handling his testy calls.

Edited April 8, 2009 by taxexile

[G54]

[patklang]

Tnx patklang. Really was a nasty retaliation on my part. I was using some cliches as a sarcastic response.

bkkjames, you read me wrong. I wholeheartedly believe that men can be faithful, i was using a general consensus that ive so often read on ThaiVisa. I was being sarcastic. Again, said in retaliation.

Anyway..sorry all.

no probs Eek,still friends

[PeaceBlondie]

Seriously, a sudden decrease in the libido or the ability to attain an erection might be very troublesome. I know a guy who had prostate cancer at age 60, and has not been able to get it up since then. After a lifetime of yanking, it was a big disappointment, because the mental desire did not leave him.

If the desire slackens, the ability to do something about it would not matter.

[TAWP]

Tnx patklang. Really was a nasty retaliation on my part. I was using some cliches as a sarcastic response.

bkkjames, you read me wrong. I wholeheartedly believe that men can be faithful, i was using a general consensus that ive so often read on ThaiVisa. I was being sarcastic. Again, said in retaliation.

Anyway..sorry all.

eek, that's your biggest mistake. do believe men on TV are pigs - I know - I am one.

Exactly.

[neverdie]

Its a good thing, now get on with living.

[patklang]

I am 50+ and i get worse lol.Dont get me wrong i dont paw my gf every day and be a pain but i am always getting horny,is there a pill to stop me not help me.

Must admit she is very sexy to look at,well for me anyway,and luckily i only go out twice a week so i resist the urge.Am i wasting my life cos one day i will be in the same boat as some of the guys on here

[girlx]

In my case it's an inherited hormone imbalance that I have been treated for over the past 10 years.

hmm... i (female) actually have an excess of testosterone but my libido is just fair to middlin. it has gotten stronger as i have gotten older but i still don't get what the big deal is with sex and why so many people make life decisions over it.

For most women who have experienced living with men with very high libidos at one time or other, im sure they find a lower libido in their partners something to be grateful for.

oh definitely. most of my exes were ok but one in particular was so sex mad that i am pretty sure he is a clinical sex addict. i used to hide from him! i think his libido was instrumental in our breakup! a girl can only take so much.

I was ready going to zzzzzz, but all wide awake now...........so carry on!!!! tongue.gif

hehe teacup

[ernest1966]

re: eek and fat

Scientific studies imply that women may have a slight advantage in attempting mountaineering feats like that achieved by Alison Hargreaves at the weekend.

"Women are less prone to hypothermia {where the internal body temperature drops dangerously} and to frostbite because on average they have more body fat," said Dr Jim Milledge, of Northwick Park Hospital, north London.

Since 1960 he has investigated the effects of high altitudes on the body. Fat, which provides a natural layer of insulation, is a vital component in this study. Additionally, when the body begins burning its core energy stores at altitudes above about 26,000 feet (8,000 metres) - which mountaineers call the "death zone" - the extra energy per unit volume in fat could also prove vital.

"If the mountain was 200 metres higher, it would probably be impossible to reach it without bottled oxygen," said Dr Charles Clarke, a consultant neurologist who has been on two Everest expeditions.

Body fat, in the form of a layer beneath the skin which insulates the internal organs, accounts for about 20 per cent of the average person's weight. In athletes it can be as low as 5 per cent, though for genetic reasons female athletes in any particular sport have slightly more than their male rivals.

etc

now who's fat...

Ernest

[runner]

maybe you just aren't thinking about it.

It helps my bank account too, but I think if I was very rich I would have a very high libido. more money, more horny...

[bangkokrick]

A POUND OF LARD SLOBBERING OVER HER BODY.?????

when dealing with an overweight partner, a proper lady would do the decent thing and climb on.

i know of 2 old guys here , one a rotund italian man in his late 60's who works his charm and sets the mood by buying his girlfriends plenty of ice cream, he says thai girls like nothing better than licking the nuts off a large neapolitan.

another guy, english, about 70, very active but quite grumpy when on the phone to his girlfriends, however he says thai girls have no trouble handling his testy calls.

Post of the day Tax! Thanks for lightening the thread up and making me laugh.

Cheers, Rick

[chiangmaibruce]

I know a guy who had prostate cancer at age 60, and has not been able to get it up since then.

Now there's a potentially risky situation ... one of the key variables in prostate cancer is the level of testosterone, so much so that some treatments aim to reduce it. It's petrol on the fire of prostate cancer, so a temptation to take supplements to address a failing libido would mean gambling with your life. Presumably though something like viagra would get you over that hurdle (one race at a time anyway) as it does not contain testosterone.

[Spee]

Have a farang friend whose 74, he's very fit, runs every day, into very healthy eating, takes good care of his appearance, dresses well, etc. He has a long list of lady visitors who call at his home, entertains at least 4 nights a week, or more, and he doesn't use Viagra or similar.

Makes sense. I've always had a fairly strong urge since my teen years. In my late 40's and early 50's I felt the urge start to taper off. I thought this was just part of the many body changes in the life cycle. Then late last year I dropped about 25kg of weight and had a noticeable increase in urge once again. I'm not fit by any stretch, but I think there is a link to the healthy mind, healthy body and the sex drive.

[ernest1966]

there was a "joker" at my old company, who left a article taped to the inside of the cubiclle door that said masturbation lessened the risk of prostate cancer and also a copy of penthouse tied on a string

loo paper ran out pretty fast in that cubicle...

Ernest

[Sabum]

I get the impression it would make you much better companions for your female partners too, without the excessive pressure for sex..

Sorry I took that to mean ANY pressure for sex, meaning women don't want to period, so thought I'd pipe up and let you know women DO enjoy sex, as my partner continuously reminds me

Sabum, you are making assumptions about my sex life, which is really unnecessary and rather childish.

Didn't mean to, thought you said something you didn't, my bad

Most women do not desire sex several times in the one day, every day. For most women who have experienced living with men with very high libidos at one time or other, im sure they find a lower libido in their partners something to be grateful for.

No, think you are wrong here, most of my girlfriends have always wanted it more than once a day if possible. Just my opinion based on my life experience which differs from yours.

Also (not saying all men here), but many of the western men who come to Thailand marry much younger Thai women. If the men in question dont take care of themselves physically, im sure the woman is grateful to not have a pound of lard slobbering over her body as much anymore.

Hehehehe, 6 pack over here thanks, harsh and insulting but probably true

As for me personally, im in my 30's too, with a mutual healthy sex life. Like most women, i enjoy that aspect of a relationship, but its only one aspect of a whole relationship. It doesnt define it, or define me.

That's great, misunderstood your original post

Sorry for upsetting you, wasn't personally attacking you lol. Just misunderstood.

Edited April 8, 2009 by Sabum

[grahamhc]

It's a very interesting topic to discuss! I'm turning 50 and really don't 'crave' for sex. Do I miss it? No, not really. I'm very happy with my own life, language study, volunteer work etc. >>>>>>>>

Simon

PS - I should add that I have an inherited very low testosterone level, so there is a medical reason for my lack of libido.

Absolutely not! In my case it's an inherited hormone imbalance that I have been treated for over the past 10 years. But as the additional testosterone medication wears off, I find the desire to 'refresh' my libido decreasing. If I want some 'fun' then I can go out and get it - but I find a good book much more relaxing

My father had the same hormone imbalance and was working (academically) until the day he died at 89 years old.

Interesting that at my recent health check at the Bangkok Bank Hospital Pattaya, I had explained that I was often feeling tired. I was told I had a low testosterone level and it was suggested I have a booster shot, to which I agreed. The Doctor said that the low testosterone level could cause a feeling of tiredness.

So I has a jab in the bum. Then off to the cashier who presented me with a large bill! That injection cost me EIGHT THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED BAHT. I felt like asking the nurse to suck it back out of my bum.

Still felt tired afterwards. I find a bottle of Lipo is still of more use. Or a good night's sleep! (I am a night owl)

As a friend once said if you have a problem with getting an erection, just get a new woman. He may have been joking, but it has been a proven fact to me. Or a long time "flame' you like.

[jetjock]

Have a farang friend whose 74, he's very fit, runs every day, into very healthy eating, takes good care of his appearance, dresses well, etc. He has a long list of lady visitors who call at his home, entertains at least 4 nights a week, or more, and he doesn't use Viagra or similar.

Makes sense. I've always had a fairly strong urge since my teen years. In my late 40's and early 50's I felt the urge start to taper off. I thought this was just part of the many body changes in the life cycle. Then late last year I dropped about 25kg of weight and had a noticeable increase in urge once again. I'm not fit by any stretch, but I think there is a link to the healthy mind, healthy body and the sex drive.

I agree that keeping fit seems to be one of the major keys to keeping the libido and testosterone level up as we age. I stay trim and keep in top shape by working out and playing heavy duty sports about 3 hours everyday. I am pushing 70 and can still keep up with most of the young 20 and 30 year olds in my sports but probably not in the sport of sex. I can't do it 3+ times a day anymore like the young guys say they do but once or occasionally twice a day still works fine for me (no ED pills ever needed). Naturally I am not the man I once was--but once, I am as good or better than I ever was ! I also find that having a wonderful beautiful gorgeous sexy wife also does wonders for the libido.

edited for spelling

Edited April 8, 2009 by jetjock

[Sabum]

Right on man, good for you.

[simon43]

Grahamhc, 8,000 baht or so sounds a bargain! I remember that I paid about 80,000 baht for some slow-release testosterone implant tablets maybe 8 years ago when I was in the UK.

In any case, (AFAIK and I'm not a doctor), the effects of testosterone 'boosters' will not be immediate. It's a longterm treatment, which is why the implants were the best option at the time. Now I understand that you can buy daily testosterone tablets over the counter here in Thailand.

But, as has been mentioned before, a word of warning! Increased testosterone does also increase the risk of prostate cancer. (Reduced testosterone increases the risk of brittle-bone disease, so you have to take your pick - always best to consult a specialist doctor re any proposed treatment).

Simon

[neverdie]

It's a very interesting topic to discuss! I'm turning 50 and really don't 'crave' for sex. Do I miss it? No, not really. I'm very happy with my own life, language study, volunteer work etc. >>>>>>>>

Simon

PS - I should add that I have an inherited very low testosterone level, so there is a medical reason for my lack of libido.

Absolutely not! In my case it's an inherited hormone imbalance that I have been treated for over the past 10 years. But as the additional testosterone medication wears off, I find the desire to 'refresh' my libido decreasing. If I want some 'fun' then I can go out and get it - but I find a good book much more relaxing

My father had the same hormone imbalance and was working (academically) until the day he died at 89 years old.

Interesting that at my recent health check at the Bangkok Bank Hospital Pattaya, I had explained that I was often feeling tired. I was told I had a low testosterone level and it was suggested I have a booster shot, to which I agreed. The Doctor said that the low testosterone level could cause a feeling of tiredness.

So I has a jab in the bum. Then off to the cashier who presented me with a large bill! That injection cost me EIGHT THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED BAHT. I felt like asking the nurse to suck it back out of my bum.

Still felt tired afterwards. I find a bottle of Lipo is still of more use. Or a good night's sleep! (I am a night owl)

As a friend once said if you have a problem with getting an erection, just get a new woman. He may have been joking, but it has been a proven fact to me. Or a long time "flame' you like.

Not a nice mental picture....but whatever turns you on

[dave2]

neverdie.

quote ..... As a friend once said if you have a problem with getting an erection, just get a new woman.

why not two ?

ive been seeing these two for over two years and dont have a problem when they get their kit off and get to work !

they help me to keep ( well feel at least ) young every 3 , 4 or 5 days or whenever i want ?

ok ok it costs ..... but marrying a westoner or any nationality woman will cost WAY bigger bucks than these two will ever cost me in ten years !

p is 21 n is 23 and im nearly 60

im happy !

they are happy seeing me ! ( one at a time or together )

enjoy pic

now wheres n s phone number ? : )

regards .... dave2

[WinnieTheKhwai]

Personally, them wearing those white patches on their face would turn me off a bit.

[bkkjames]

Girl x: regarding your testy problem - drink more Vitamilk - which I understand raises estrogen levels.

Guys, if you find yourself putting on women's clothing, you may want to cut back on your Tofu and Soybean in-take.