Non Imm B Visa Multiple Entry

[Gonzo the Face]

This is Gonzo your handy and randy reporter direct to you from Kuala Lampur.

It is still in existanace. The Non Immig. B, Multiple , 1 Year. I have one in my grubby hands as I write. Thats why it is so hard to type and so many errors. I will not let it loose.

No problems to report in the getting of the Visa. Went to the Thai Embassy yesterday morn about 8:30 AM .

At that time there were about 10 ahead of me , but by 9:30 when the consular section opened there were in excess of 50 hopefuls. Made my app, gave my papers, and passport, and of course the 550 Ringet, or 5500 Baht, got a receipt and was back at the hotel eating breakfast at 10:10.

Back this afternoon at 14:30 for pick up and that took less than 5 minutes, actually went back to the hotel in the same taxi.

Now nothing remains except the ever continuing fights with Air Asia...

This is your up to date reporter, Gonzo saying back to you

Good Night Chet

Good Night David

Anybody have any questions, post-em and maybe I can help if I can...... I had to pay for a whole hour for this mo chine....

[ubonjoe]

Thanks for the report.

You can reply back if you need to use some more of your time.

How is the weather?

[Gonzo the Face]

Thanks for the report.

You can reply back if you need to use some more of your time.

How is the weather?

temps great, probably about 30 deg. and overcast.... Strangely the taxi driver had told me yesterday that it had been very very hot here and no rain until a few days ago..... little sprinkles today ...... overall not bad.

[kudroz]

Did you show a work permit with at least 1 year validity period?

[Gonzo the Face]

Did you show a work permit with at least 1 year validity period?

Let me try this again

Hi Kudroz. Sorry for the delay in answering, but was in transit and just got back about an hour ago

To Answer your question. I did telephone the Consular Section at the RTE in Kl a couple days before going. One of the things they asked for was a copy of the face page of the WP along with a copy of the page with the latest stamp showing the expiration date. Once there I gave them all the required copies of this and that along with the WP copies and Passport copies. They did ask to see the original WP. I had no problems as I had just renewed my WP on the last day of Feb 09, thus having 9 mos + of validity. Its just my opinion, but I seem to feel that they are looking for at least 6 mos remaining on the current work permit prior to issuing a 1 yr multiple..... Now I don't know that as fact, just my feeling.

I was at the RTE a little before 9AM , got registered, filled out the app, turned in all my papers and forms along with a photo , paid got a receipt , was told to come pack tomorrow at 2:30 PM for pick up, and was back at my hotel eating breakfast at 10:10 AM.. They seem to be real nice, friendly, and efficient.

Another of my feelings and opinions. Try and dress showing some respect to that office for what you are trying to do.... You are ASKING for permission to go into someone's country. Coming to the embassy dressed in cut-off camo's with a ripped motorcycle T shirt, looking like you just came from a pig fight and were the looser, to me, does not show respect. I know today things are casual, but come on already. I felt bad just sitting in with such a rag tag group.

Maybe its that I'm a little older, and you don't have to wear a tie and suit, but come on guys, give a little thought to what you are doing and show some respect. I think it will go a long way to helping you get what you want.

Gonzo

[kudroz]

Did you show a work permit with at least 1 year validity period?

Let me try this again

Hi Kudroz. Sorry for the delay in answering, but was in transit and just got back about an hour ago

To Answer your question. I did telephone the Consular Section at the RTE in Kl a couple days before going. One of the things they asked for was a copy of the face page of the WP along with a copy of the page with the latest stamp showing the expiration date. Once there I gave them all the required copies of this and that along with the WP copies and Passport copies. They did ask to see the original WP. I had no problems as I had just renewed my WP on the last day of Feb 09, thus having 9 mos + of validity. Its just my opinion, but I seem to feel that they are looking for at least 6 mos remaining on the current work permit prior to issuing a 1 yr multiple..... Now I don't know that as fact, just my feeling.

I was at the RTE a little before 9AM , got registered, filled out the app, turned in all my papers and forms along with a photo , paid got a receipt , was told to come pack tomorrow at 2:30 PM for pick up, and was back at my hotel eating breakfast at 10:10 AM.. They seem to be real nice, friendly, and efficient.

Another of my feelings and opinions. Try and dress showing some respect to that office for what you are trying to do.... You are ASKING for permission to go into someone's country. Coming to the embassy dressed in cut-off camo's with a ripped motorcycle T shirt, looking like you just came from a pig fight and were the looser, to me, does not show respect. I know today things are casual, but come on already. I felt bad just sitting in with such a rag tag group.

Maybe its that I'm a little older, and you don't have to wear a tie and suit, but come on guys, give a little thought to what you are doing and show some respect. I think it will go a long way to helping you get what you want.

Gonzo

Thanks for the reply. I also agree re people dressing too casual, especially when they're asking for a "B" visa. Last year I was given a Multi-Entry "B" from Vientiane probably because I was overdressed for the place.

I have about 10 months left on my Work Permit. KL sounds like the place to go.

Thanks again!

[Gonzo the Face]

Kudroz, I would give a telephone call before your go over. You can google up the number for the Royal Thai Embassy KL. If you can ask for a lady named Devia. She speaks perfect English and more important.... understands it

I think if you gave her a call and went over what she needs and what you have you will save yourself a great deal of grief. I have gotten the visa in other Thai Embassys and they seem to ask for a lot less in KL..

Here is the number ,,,,, I found it.... its supposed to be cheaper if you dial 007 first 007 60 3 2148 8222 ext 1 for visa

You may find that the collection hours have changed to from 2:30 - 4:30 PM

[faxx]

I was just given a 3 month single entry non-b in Kuala Lumpur. They required a work permit to be valid for around 1 year, but mine needs to be renewed every 3 months. Seems I need to fly to another continent again :-(

[Gonzo the Face]

I was just given a 3 month single entry non-b in Kuala Lumpur. They required a work permit to be valid for around 1 year, but mine needs to be renewed every 3 months. Seems I need to fly to another continent again :-(

Does look like you will have to go out again in 90 days, but I would suggest checking with your local labor Dept, where you got your WP and ask why you cannot obtain a WP for a full year, before you go.... Unless there are some particular circumstances, you may get a 1 year and that would help in KL in your getting a 1 yr multiple the next time

[faxx]

I was just given a 3 month single entry non-b in Kuala Lumpur. They required a work permit to be valid for around 1 year, but mine needs to be renewed every 3 months. Seems I need to fly to another continent again :-(

Does look like you will have to go out again in 90 days, but I would suggest checking with your local labor Dept, where you got your WP and ask why you cannot obtain a WP for a full year, before you go.... Unless there are some particular circumstances, you may get a 1 year and that would help in KL in your getting a 1 yr multiple the next time

Just went to KL again and same story. Single Entry 90 days Non B. I would need at least 4 Thai employees in my company to be eligible for a one year extension of the work permit as far as I remember. I guess next time I just fly to the US or Europe :-)

[ubonjoe]

Perth Australia is a good option also and the flights are cheaper.

[MickeyHolland]

I was just given a 3 month single entry non-b in Kuala Lumpur. They required a work permit to be valid for around 1 year, but mine needs to be renewed every 3 months. Seems I need to fly to another continent again :-(

Does look like you will have to go out again in 90 days, but I would suggest checking with your local labor Dept, where you got your WP and ask why you cannot obtain a WP for a full year, before you go.... Unless there are some particular circumstances, you may get a 1 year and that would help in KL in your getting a 1 yr multiple the next time

Just went to KL again and same story. Single Entry 90 days Non B. I would need at least 4 Thai employees in my company to be eligible for a one year extension of the work permit as far as I remember. I guess next time I just fly to the US or Europe :-)

I am in the same trouble now, just got only a single entry 90 days Non Im B from KL.

This week my work permit expires.

Anyone knows if i can get an extension of my work permit for 1 year despite my 90 days Non B?

[MickeyHolland]

I was just given a 3 month single entry non-b in Kuala Lumpur. They required a work permit to be valid for around 1 year, but mine needs to be renewed every 3 months. Seems I need to fly to another continent again :-(

Does look like you will have to go out again in 90 days, but I would suggest checking with your local labor Dept, where you got your WP and ask why you cannot obtain a WP for a full year, before you go.... Unless there are some particular circumstances, you may get a 1 year and that would help in KL in your getting a 1 yr multiple the next time

Just went to KL again and same story. Single Entry 90 days Non B. I would need at least 4 Thai employees in my company to be eligible for a one year extension of the work permit as far as I remember. I guess next time I just fly to the US or Europe :-)

I am in the same trouble now, just got only a single entry 90 days Non Im B from KL.

This week my work permit expires.

Anyone knows if i can get an extension of my work permit for 1 year despite my 90 days Non B?

Anyone knows about these new work permit regulations please?

[ubonjoe]

It appears that getting the one year work permit will depend upon the labor departement office you have to use. Some are giving 1 year work permits because they are following the new rules that say that you don't have to have a one year permit to stay to get one. Others are not.

If you can't get a one year then you need to get the "magic stamp" mentioned in this topic and others.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Non-1year-Ku...44#entry2068744

[Gonzo the Face]

I was just given a 3 month single entry non-b in Kuala Lumpur. They required a work permit to be valid for around 1 year, but mine needs to be renewed every 3 months. Seems I need to fly to another continent again :-(

Does look like you will have to go out again in 90 days, but I would suggest checking with your local labor Dept, where you got your WP and ask why you cannot obtain a WP for a full year, before you go.... Unless there are some particular circumstances, you may get a 1 year and that would help in KL in your getting a 1 yr multiple the next time

Just went to KL again and same story. Single Entry 90 days Non B. I would need at least 4 Thai employees in my company to be eligible for a one year extension of the work permit as far as I remember. I guess next time I just fly to the US or Europe :-)

I am in the same trouble now, just got only a single entry 90 days Non Im B from KL.

This week my work permit expires.

Anyone knows if i can get an extension of my work permit for 1 year despite my 90 days Non B?

Mickeyholland, where in Thailand are you?

If you are in Chiang Mai, as example, I know they [Labor Dept] gave me a 1 year WP stamp [Extension I would say as it is the same book just renewed] with very little time remaining on my then current visa.

Like some 12 years ago, I would leave the country and get a Non Imm B, 1 Yr, Multiple Visa. On arrival in Thailand you then received the 90 day entry stamp. With this stamp I would go to labor dept, and they would extend the WP until the expiry date of the entry stamp. If I had not left the country in those 90 days, I would go to Mai Sai, cross the border and return with a new 90 day stamp and then go to Labor for the WP entension to the end of that date stamp.

I found this to be a very workable and no problem method of complying with the laws.

There is an alternative to this method. That is when I come in and get the 90 day stamp I could have gone to the local Immig and they would have [probably with a little encouragement fee] stamped it for a year and thus avoiding the 90 day runs. However this method somehow puts you under the Immigration umbella rather than the labor dept umbrella .

The immigration way is more restrictive.

The labor dept is much more smooth and moreover the salary requirements that you must pay the WP holder is greater under the immigration dept than the labor dept. Don't ask why, it just is.

But ever since February 07 the labor dept in CM issues 1 yr WP's regardless of the time remaining on your current Nom Imm B visa. Provided that there is some time left.

This makes it much simpler for me. I get the normal 1 yr multiple Nom Imm B , come back and get the 90 day entry stamp and do not worry about the WP and Labor dept until the following year, as in my case February. I am happy to take a few hours off every 90 days, and do a visa run as it is like a day trip and some time off.. also eliminates the need to get a re-entry permit.

I guess the real answer here is how your local labor dept follows the rules. If it were here in CM I would say , take your 90 day entry stamp and new Non Imm B visa and then they would [locally] give you a new 1 year stamp in your WP.

Now at the end of your visa,or before you would have to go out and get another Nom Imm B Visa, and as long as you met all the other requirements of the Thai Embassy at which you are applying, you would/should [if it was KL] get a new 1 year multiple. I know this as I just did it 2 weeks ago

Hope this helps you and hope it does not confuse you...

I would add one more thing to this. I know we all complain aboaut the labor dept, the embassies, the immigration, but generally, GENERALLY, if you show respect, talk to them respectfully, they seem and try to be very helpful and friendly.... Also don't go to any of these departments looking like you slept under a bridge somewhere. Show them the respect the warrant, by dressing appropiately ..... does not have to be suit and tie but clean, pressed and respectful

Gonzo

[MickeyHolland]

Just got my WP extended for 1 year by the Surratthani office.

Now a new question pops up!

Now i have a single entry Non B 3 months.. if i visit KL again when wy current visa expires (12 August) and apply for a 1 year Non B multiple will they accept it when i have only 9,5 months left in my WP and not a full year?

Or do i have to asap to buy a new visa?

Thanks!!

[ubonjoe]

With 9.5 months left you should have no problem getting the visa in KL. It seems they only want a little as 6 months by some reports. One recent report was from a member that only had 8 months and they got it.

[MickeyHolland]

Could it be it depends who is helping you at the counter as well?

I was explicitly told by the lady wo helped me she would only issue a 1 year B if my WP has validity for a full year or the " magic" stamp as decribed before (which is not issued by the surratthani office)..

Perhaps not all the consulate's personel follow the same requirements..??

[MickeyHolland]

Could it be it depends who is helping you at the counter as well?

I was explicitly told by the lady wo helped me she would only issue a 1 year B if my WP has validity for a full year or the " magic" stamp as decribed before (which is not issued by the surratthani office)..

Perhaps not all the consulate's personel follow the same requirements..??

Any got the most recent emailaddres of the embassy in KL?

The address on their website does not accept any emails anymore (over quoted..)

Thanks!

[ubonjoe]

Which email address were you trying. If it was one of the mfa ones their website was down yesterday.

Try this one [email protected] .

[MickeyHolland]

I just received this message from the KL embassy:

Yes, you can lodge the application once you are in Kuala Lumpur for Non Immigrant B multiple entry visa for 1 year. Upon application please make sure that you do not have any valid Thai visa because this would stop you issuing visa.

Atleast the work permit should be valid for 9 to 10 months.

You may need to produce all the same document and enclosed your valid work permit. Each time, you lodge application will be treated as a fresh visa.

During July and August we will be closing on the following days:- 7th July 09 Tuesday (Asarnha Bucha day), 12th August 09 Wednesday (Thai Queen's Birthday) and 31st August 09 Monday (Malaysian National Day).

Now i have the following question:

I have a single entry Non B 90 days expiring on 12 August.

I have to go for business to KL on 8 July and want to apply for a Non B 1 year multiple entry.

In this email it says you cannot apply for a new visa when you current visa is not expired.

In my opinion my current visa will expire the moment i leave Thailand as it is a single entry visa, is this correct?

Or will they refuse my application as i can get a re-entry stamp?

I wrote the same question already to the embassy but i do not have the time to wait for their reply.

Thanks!

[ubonjoe]

They are referring to multiple entry visas. You won't have a problem.

[Richie1971]

They are referring to multiple entry visas. You won't have a problem.

Had no problem for 4 years getting a 12 month visa Non Imm B Multi - (started off with a 3 month, then got a 12 month which was subsequently renewed once a year.

But things have changed

Went in January would only give me a 3 month Visa, went back again only given a 3 month visa, went back again and again only got a three month visa - I asked why and they said it was to do with the validity of the WP but its my understanding that the WP cannot be extended further than the Visa.

Catch 22 - Cannot get a 12 month WP without a 12month Visa, cannot get a 12 month Visa without a 12 month WP

I could be wrong (but probably not) that this is a cynical ploy to make farang pay 220 ringots 4 times a year instead of 550 ringots once a year - recouping money from the free tourist visa promotion.

Encourage foreign investment - don't make me laugh.

If possible try and avoid the teller on the far left - she seems to delight in causing inconvenience to others.

Going back to England once a year would be cheaper than this lark.

[Richie1971]

They are referring to multiple entry visas. You won't have a problem.

Had no problem for 4 years getting a 12 month visa Non Imm B Multi - (started off with a 3 month, then got a 12 month which was subsequently renewed once a year.

But things have changed

Went in January would only give me a 3 month Visa, went back again only given a 3 month visa, went back again and again only got a three month visa - I asked why and they said it was to do with the validity of the WP but its my understanding that the WP cannot be extended further than the Visa.

Catch 22 - Cannot get a 12 month WP without a 12month Visa, cannot get a 12 month Visa without a 12 month WP

I could be wrong (but probably not) that this is a cynical ploy to make farang pay 220 ringots 4 times a year instead of 550 ringots once a year - recouping money from the free tourist visa promotion.

Encourage foreign investment - don't make me laugh.

If possible try and avoid the teller on the far left - she seems to delight in causing inconvenience to others.

Going back to England once a year would be cheaper than this lark.

By the way the e-mail, website only seem to be for show

[ubonjoe]

Went in January would only give me a 3 month Visa, went back again only given a 3 month visa, went back again and again only got a three month visa - I asked why and they said it was to do with the validity of the WP but its my understanding that the WP cannot be extended further than the Visa.

Catch 22 - Cannot get a 12 month WP without a 12month Visa, cannot get a 12 month Visa without a 12 month WP

There have been people getting a visa for quite some time without a problem.

You should be able to get a 12 month work permit now because the rules have changed in that the work permit can be issued for longer than your permit to stay.

Others have gotten them because they had the "magic stamp" as some people have called it. See this topic for info.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Non-1year-Ku...44#entry2068744

[lopburi3]

Work permits can be issued for a year at a time without a visa to match now so there should not be any Catch 22 situation. That some labor offices may not (yet) do so does not make it a conspiracy. If you have a work permit with 9 months or more remaining KL will issue a one year visa. There is also another option of having a stamp rather than the actual work permit. Check with the Consulate and try to obtain what is required from your labor office.

[Richie1971]

Work permits can be issued for a year at a time without a visa to match now so there should not be any Catch 22 situation. That some labor offices may not (yet) do so does not make it a conspiracy. If you have a work permit with 9 months or more remaining KL will issue a one year visa. There is also another option of having a stamp rather than the actual work permit. Check with the Consulate and try to obtain what is required from your labor office.

Cheers - never had a problem before this year though?