Bilderberg Group - World Dominance?

[flying]

Gun sales at record levels

Ammo prices & availablity have kept pace too

...I have always been into shooting sports & competitions.

So I saw it coming & did in fact stock up on components.

For instance I reload my own ammo & the primers use to cost $25 per 1000

Now they are $60 or more per 1000 if you can find them at all.

Small rifle primers are for the most part gone as that is what is used in AR-15/ M16 type rifles.

Dont even look at loaded ammo prices......very crazy if you can find it at all.

223, 9mm & 45acp is especially at record low/hard to find levels.

Sad part is even though I have a ...... supply I dont want to shoot for fun anymore because of this shortage.

Edited May 20, 2009 by flying

[deprogrammed]

Dear Naam

I do understand that you are programmed to refute ever bit of evidence which proves that your whole life has been based on a big lie. It is widely accepted by conscious, sentient humans that it is impossible to awaken those in a state of deep slumber. Alas, your programming seems irriversable.

The majority of posters, however, disagree with your infantile attempts to debunk reality. One question though: why not spend just 10 minutes from your busy schedule - playing the markets - to investigate! Oh, I forget you have already decided that there is nothing to question anymore.

I am 100% serious when I say that your programming is perfect. Fortunatley not all humans can be hypnotized in such a way that they refuse to investigate what they are programmed to refute. Go on prove me wrong. What do you fear (rhetorical question)

PS You state you don't read the Daily Mail - so you refuse to look at the article even though you are an active participent in this post - how very very odd. I personally read any and all newspapers at random, without predjudice. Gives me a balanced view. Can you please save me some valuable time by informing me what and from which sources I should read. Share your wisdom with the profane amongst us. How can those of us who do so much unbiased research be so wrong. What is your source of truth and knowledge?

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods - Albert Einstein

Edited May 20, 2009 by deprogrammed

[deprogrammed]

Dear Naam

Sorry, just one last thing. I know you don't and wont' read the Daily Mail, but perhaps you may care to read what this guy from the London Gaurdian, who previously though it was all a bit of a conspiracy thing, has to say now:

Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet.com

Tuesday, May 19, 2009

London Guardian journalist Charlie Skelton, who began his coverage of the 2009 Bilderberg conference in a jovial and mocking manner, is now warning that the horrendous treatment dished out to him by both police and undercover spies is just a taste of what we can expect in our daily lives if we allow Bilderberg’s agenda, and specifically ID cards and implantable microchips, to be implemented.

Initially setting out to cover the event in a satirical way, Skelton left Greece yesterday chilled to the bone about how he had been harassed, detained and stalked for days on end by authorities merely for taking photographs of the hotel where Bilderberg members were staying.

“My experience over the last several days in Greece has granted me a single, diamond-hard opinion,”

writes Skelton, “That we must fight, fight, fight, now – right now, this second, with every cubic inch of our souls – to stop identity cards.”

I can tell you right now that the argument “If I’ve done nothing wrong, why would I worry about showing who I am?” is hogwash. Worse than that, it’s horse hockey. It’s all about the power to ask, the obligation to show, the justification of one’s existence, the power of the asker over the subservience of the asked. (Did you know that most Greek police don’t wear a number? This is an obligation that goes one way.)

I have learned this from the random searches, detentions, angry security goon proddings and thumped police desks without number that I’ve had to suffer on account of Bilderberg: I have spent the week living in a nightmare possible future and many different terrible pasts. I have had the very tiniest glimpse into a world of spot checks and unchecked security powers. And it has left me shaken. It has left me, literally, bruised.

Skelton adds that the ID card turns the citizen into a suspect and would be “the end of everything,” noting that plans are also afoot to replace the ID card with an implantable microchip for greater efficiency and tracking of the population,

a subject that was up for discussion at last year’s Bilderberg Group conference

Edited May 20, 2009 by deprogrammed

[BygonKeaw]

Yeah it made me cringe after seeing a clip posted on here somewhere where a american lady thought micro chipping is a good thing as it would make the world a safer place after 911??? Thats litteraly makes me feel sick.

Naam do u think micro chipping wil make us all safer??

Oh and whats your opinion about osama bin laden controlling the hijacking from a cave of 4 planes and get basic pilots to fly 3 commercial aeroplanes into 2 world trade centres and collapsing them both(the first buildings in history to collapse from fire damage, as the us goverment say this is y they went down) and the other plane into the pentagon after the pilot that struggled to control a light aircraft(according to his instructor) turn his commercial plane at a 270 degree manouver(impoosible without the plane falling out of the sky) then avoiding all lamp posts poles and 87 security cameras and smashing into the pentagon vapourising everything(scientificly impossible) from the plane apart from a rolls royce engine?? Oh i forgot to say they managed to leave the windows intact either side of the hole the plane entered, so did the plane fold its wings prior to impact?

Excuse me for my poor spelling naam because im sure thats the only thing you will reply about. LOL

Edited May 20, 2009 by BygonKeaw

[BygonKeaw]

Bilderberg 2009 Attendee List (revised)

Infowars

May 18, 2009

Note: The previous version of this list, translated from Greek via an automated translation device, has seriously distorted quite of a few of the names on this list. Infowars staff have gone over this list twice; if you have information on the people with question marks (?), please send an email to [email protected].

Dutch Queen Beatrix

Queen Sofia of Spain

Prince Constantijn (Belgian Prince)

Prince Philippe Etienne Ntavinion, Belgium

Étienne, Viscount Davignon, Belgium (former vice-president of the European Commission)

Josef Ackermann (Swiss banker and CEO of Deutsche Bank)

Keith B. Alexander, United States (Lieutenant General, U.S. Army, Director of the National Security Agency)

Roger Altman, United States (investment banker, former U.S. Deputy Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton)

Georgios A. Arapoglou, Greece (Governor of National Bank of Greece)

Ali Babaca , Turkey (Deputy Prime Minister responsible for economy)

Francisco Pinto Balsemão, Portugal (former Prime Minister of Portugal)

Nicholas Bavarez, France (economist and historian)

Franco Bernabè, Italy (Telecom Italia)

Xavier Bertrand, France (French politician connected to Nicolas Sarkozy)

Carl Bildt, Sweden (former Prime Minister of Sweden)

January Bgiorklount, Norway (?)

Christoph Blocher, Switzerland (industrialist, Vice President of the Swiss People's Party)

Alexander Bompar, France (?)

Ana Patricia Botin, Spain, (President of Banco Banesto)

Henri de Castries, France (President of AXA, the French global insurance companies group)

Juan Luis Cebrián, Spain (journalist for Grupo PRISA; his father was a senior journalist in the fascist Franco regime)

W. Edmund Clark, Canada (CEO TD Bank Financial Group)

Kenneth Clarke, Great Britain (MP, Shadow Business Secretary)

Luc Cohen, Belgium (?)

George David, United States (Chairman and former CEO of United Technologies Corporation, board member of Citigroup)

Richard Dearlove, Great Britain (former head of the British Secret Intelligence Service)

Mario Draghi, Italy (economist, governor of the Bank of Italy)

Eldrup Anders, Denmark (CEO Dong Energy)

John Elkann, Italy (Italian industrialist, grandson of the late Gianni Agnelli, and heir to the automaker Fiat)

Thomas Enders, Germany (CEO Airbus)

Jose Entrekanales, Spain (?)

Isintro phenomena casket, Spain (?)

Niall Ferguson, United States (Professor of History at Harvard University and William Ziegler Professor at Harvard Business School)

Timothy Geithner, United States (Secretary of the Treasury)

Ntermot convergence, Ireland (AIV Group) (?)

Donald Graham, United States (CEO and chairman of the board of The Washington Post Company)

Victor Chalmperstant, Netherlands (Leiden University)

Ernst Hirsch Ballin, Netherlands (Dutch politician, minister of Justice in the fourth Balkenende cabinet, member of the Christian Democratic Appeal)

Richard Holbrooke, United States (Obama's special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan)

Jaap De Hoop Scheffer, Netherlands (Dutch politician and the current NATO Secretary General)

James Jones, United States (National Security Advisor to the White House)

Vernon Jordan, United States (lawyer, close adviser to President Bill Clinton)

Robert Keigkan, United States (? - possibly Robert Kagan, neocon historian)

Girki Katainen, Finland (?)

John Kerr (aka Baron Kerr of Kinlochard), Britain (Deputy Chairman of Royal Dutch Shell and an independent member of the House of Lords)

Mustafa Vehbi Koç, Turkey (President of industrial conglomerate Koç Holding)

Roland GT, Germany (?)

Sami Cohen, Turkey (Journalist) (?)

Henry Kissinger, United States

Marie Jose Kravis, United States (Hudson Institute)

Neelie Kroes, Netherlands (European Commissioner for Competition)

Odysseas Kyriakopoulos, Greece (Group S & (?)

Manuela Ferreira Leite, Portugal (Portuguese economist and politician)

Bernardino Leon Gross, Spain (Secretary General of the Presidency)

Jessica Matthews, United States (President of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace)

Philippe Maystadt (President of the European Investment Bank)

Frank McKenna, Canada (Deputy Chairman of the Toronto-Dominion Bank)

John Micklethwait, Great Britain (Editor-in-chief of The Economist)

Thierry de Montbrial, France (founded the Department of Economics of the École Polytechnique and heads the Institut français des relations internationales)

Mario Monti, Italy (Italian economist and politician, President of the Bocconi University of Milan)

Miguel Angel Moratinos, Spain (Minister of Foreign Affairs)

Craig Mundie, United States (chief research and strategy officer at Microsoft)

Egil Myklebust, Norway (Chairman of the board of SAS Group, Scandinavian Airlines System)

naam, cuckoo land (Chairman of the board of no Answers, Former dog abuser)

Mathias Nass, Germany (Editor of the newspaper Die Zeit)

Denis Olivennes, France (director general of Nouvel Observateur)

Frederic Oudea, France (CEO of Société Générale bank)

Cem Özdemir, Germany (co-leader of the Green Party and Member of the European Parliament)

Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa, Italy (Italian banker, economist, and former Minister of Economy and Finance)

Dimitrios Th.Papalexopoulo, Greece (Managing Director of Titan Cement Company SA)

Richard Perle, United States (American Enterprise Institute)

David Petraeus, United States (Commander, U.S. Central Command)

Manuel Pinho, Portugal (Minister of Economy and Innovation)

J. Robert S. Prichard, Canada (CEO of Torstar Corporation and president emeritus of the University of Toronto)

Romano Prodi, Italy (former Italian Prime Minister and former President of the European Commission)

Heather M. Reisman, Canada (co-founder of Indigo Books & Music Inc.).

Eivint Reitan, Norway (economist, corporate officer and politician for the Centre Party)

Michael Rintzier, Czech Republic (?)

David Rockefeller, United States

Dennis Ross, United States (special adviser for the Persian Gulf and Southwest Asia to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton)

Barnett R. Rubin, United States (Director of Studies and Senior Fellow, Center for International Cooperation)

Alberto Rouith-Gkalarthon, Spain (?)

Susan Sampantzi Ntintzer, Turkey (?) Guler Sabanci, President of Sabanci Holdings (?)

Indira Samarasekera, Canada (President of University of Alberta, Board of Directors Scotiabank)

Rountol Solten, Austria (?)

Jürgen E. Schrempp, Germany (CEO DaimlerChrysler)

Pedro Solbes Mira, Spain (economist, Socialist, Second Vice President and Minister of Economy and Finance)

Sampatzi Saraz, Turkey (banker) (?) possibly Süreyya Serdengeçti (former Governor of the Central Bank of Turkey) http://arsiv.zaman.com.tr/2002/05/29/ekonomi/h6.htm

Sanata Seketa, Canada (University of Canada) (?)

Lawrence Summers, United States (economist, Director of the White House's National Economic Council)

Peter Sutherland, Ireland (Chairman, BP and Chairman of Goldman Sachs International)

Martin Taylor, United Kingdom (former chief executive of Barclays Bank, currently Chairman of Syngenta AG)

Peter Thiel, United States (Clarium Capital Management LCC, PayPal co-founder, Board of Directors, Facebook)

Agan Ourgkout, Turkey (?)

Matti Taneli Vanhanen, Finland, (Prime Minister)

Daniel L. Vasella, Switzerland (Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer at Novartis AG)

Jeroen van der Veer, Netherlands (CEO of Royal Dutch Shell)

Guy Verhofstadt, Belgium (former Prime Minister)

Paul Volcker, U.S. (former Federal Reserve director, Chair of Obama's Economic Recovery Advisory Board)

Jacob Wallenberg, Sweden (chairman of Investor AB and former chairman of Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken)

Marcus Wallenberg, Sweden (CEO of Investor AB, former chairman of Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken)

Nout Wellink, Netherlands (Chairman of De Nederlandsche Bank, Board of Directors, the Bank of International Settlements)

Hans Wijers, Netherlands (CEO of the multinational corporation AkzoNobel)

Martin Wolf, Great Britain (associate editor and chief economics commentator at the Financial Times)

James Wolfensohn, United States (former president of the World Bank)

Paul Wolfowitz, United States (for U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense, President of the World Bank, currently AEI scholar)

Fareed Zakaria, United States (journalist, author, and CNN host)

Robert Zoellick, United States (former managing director of Goldman Sachs, President the World Bank)

Dora Bakoyannis, Greece (Minister of Foreign Affairs)

Anna Diamantopoulou, Greece (Member of Parliament for the Panhellenic Socialist Movement)

Yannis Papathanasiou, Greece (Minister of Finance)

George Alogoskoufis, Greece (former Minister)

George A. David, Greece (businessman, president of Coca-Cola)

Edited May 20, 2009 by BygonKeaw

[AlexLah]

Haaaaaaaaaaaa!

I have worked with one of "Them" for about a day.

Very smart guy but evil mind.

[Naam]

Naam do u think micro chipping wil make us all safer??

shamefully i confess that i have no answer for these kind of highly sophisticated questions. what concerns me much more than implanted chips is whether my dog is constipated or has a healthy dump twice a day. however, i will join any demonstration or even riots if the Bilderbergs intend to implant a chip in my pecker.

[midas]

Oh and whats your opinion about osama bin laden controlling the hijacking from a cave of 4 planes and get basic pilots to fly 3 commercial aeroplanes into 2 world trade centres and collapsing them both(the first buildings in history to collapse from fire damage, as the us goverment say this is y they went down) and the other plane into the pentagon after the pilot that struggled to control a light aircraft(according to his instructor) turn his commercial plane at a 270 degree manouver(impoosible without the plane falling out of the sky) then avoiding all lamp posts poles and 87 security cameras and smashing into the pentagon vapourising everything(scientificly impossible) from the plane apart from a rolls royce engine?? Oh i forgot to say they managed to leave the windows intact either side of the hole the plane entered, so did the plane fold its wings prior to impact?

Excuse me for my poor spelling naam because im sure thats the only thing you will reply about. LOL

I have a private pilots license and what you raise wasn't given anywhere near enough

coverage at the time in terms of in-depth analysis. No matter how excellent a private or even commercial pilot happens to be

-there is no way on this planet that you can simply go straight from a single-engined aircraft up to a wide body commercial aircraft.

It's impossible because the handling characteristics of both aircraft are completely incomparable. The challenge

of just keeping a plane like a B 737 straight and level without prior experience would be enormous and no one

has ever mentioned where the hijackers obtained this experience. Without that, it would have been easy

for a novice pilot to inadvertently cause a big aircraft like that to go into an irrecoverable stall or spin.

[deprogrammed]

Naam do u think micro chipping wil make us all safer??

shamefully i confess that i have no answer for these kind of highly sophisticated questions. what concerns me much more than implanted chips is whether my dog is constipated or has a healthy dump twice a day. however, i will join any demonstration or even riots if the Bilderbergs intend to implant a chip in my pecker.

Nothing is worse than active ignorance - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[Naam]

Oh and whats your opinion about osama bin laden controlling the hijacking from a cave of 4 planes and get basic pilots to fly 3 commercial aeroplanes into 2 world trade centres and collapsing them both(the first buildings in history to collapse from fire damage, as the us goverment say this is y they went down) and the other plane into the pentagon after the pilot that struggled to control a light aircraft(according to his instructor) turn his commercial plane at a 270 degree manouver(impoosible without the plane falling out of the sky) then avoiding all lamp posts poles and 87 security cameras and smashing into the pentagon vapourising everything(scientificly impossible) from the plane apart from a rolls royce engine?? Oh i forgot to say they managed to leave the windows intact either side of the hole the plane entered, so did the plane fold its wings prior to impact?

-Osama did not control these terrorist acts from his cave. this was neither required nor would it have been possible.

-although my PPL has expired 28 years ago and i never piloted a big aircraft i still consider myself capable of flying one into a prominent building like the WTC, assuming of course that the craft is already airborne and has all the features of a modern aircraft. the autopilot in connection with GPS does 99% of the job.

-in my opinion it is correct that the official versions and presentations of the WTC and especially the Pentagon "incident" look extremely fishy and your description of the "foldable wings" hits the nail on the head. the same goes for flight UA 93 which, as the large area of spread debris proves, was clearly shot down. but why spoil a nice story where heroic passengers sacrifice themselves with facts?

associating these acts with the Bilderbergs is however beyond my comprehension.

[deprogrammed]

associating these acts with the Bilderbergs is however beyond my comprehension.

You have limited comprehension - or selected programming.

[Naam]

I have a private pilots license and what you raise wasn't given anywhere near enough

coverage at the time in terms of in-depth analysis. No matter how excellent a private or even commercial pilot happens to be

-there is no way on this planet that you can simply go straight from a single-engined aircraft up to a wide body commercial aircraft.

It's impossible because the handling characteristics of both aircraft are completely incomparable. The challenge

of just keeping a plane like a B 737 straight and level without prior experience would be enormous and no one

has ever mentioned where the hijackers obtained this experience. Without that, it would have been easy

for a novice pilot to inadvertently cause a big aircraft like that to go into an irrecoverable stall or spin.

the autopilot does all the jobs when airborne and not overruled. after acquiring their PPL the hijackers did all necessary training in simulators. commercial pilots do since years their annual checkflights in a simulator with the checkpilot selecting at random various difficult situations.

next insinuated nonsense please!

[Naam]

You have limited comprehension - or selected programming.

"deprogrammed" = nomen est omen!

[midas]

-although my PPL has expired 28 years ago and i never piloted a big aircraft i still consider myself capable of flying one into a prominent building like the WTC, assuming of course that the craft is already airborne and has all the features of a modern aircraft. the autopilot in connection with GPS does 99% of the job.

-in my opinion it is correct that the official versions and presentations of the WTC and especially the Pentagon "incident" look extremely fishy and your description of the "foldable wings" hits the nail on the head. the same goes for flight UA 93 which, as the large area of spread debris proves, was clearly shot down. but why spoil a nice story where heroic passengers sacrifice themselves with facts?

associating these acts with the Bilderbergs is however beyond my comprehension.

You ridicule us for believing what you consider fiction and then you come out with this

blandishment-unreal and even if you are a born genius and capable of doing this,

it doesn't necessarily follow that the hijackers would've had your aptitude ?

[deprogrammed]

You have limited comprehension - or selected programming.

"deprogrammed" = nomen est omen!

Thankyou, I chose it as I thought it quite fitting following my awakening (or should I say deprogramming)

Edited May 20, 2009 by deprogrammed

[deprogrammed]

This short video will make you cry Nothing to do with subject at hand!

[BygonKeaw]

Oh and whats your opinion about osama bin laden controlling the hijacking from a cave of 4 planes and get basic pilots to fly 3 commercial aeroplanes into 2 world trade centres and collapsing them both(the first buildings in history to collapse from fire damage, as the us goverment say this is y they went down) and the other plane into the pentagon after the pilot that struggled to control a light aircraft(according to his instructor) turn his commercial plane at a 270 degree manouver(impoosible without the plane falling out of the sky) then avoiding all lamp posts poles and 87 security cameras and smashing into the pentagon vapourising everything(scientificly impossible) from the plane apart from a rolls royce engine?? Oh i forgot to say they managed to leave the windows intact either side of the hole the plane entered, so did the plane fold its wings prior to impact?

-Osama did not control these terrorist acts from his cave. this was neither required nor would it have been possible.

-although my PPL has expired 28 years ago and i never piloted a big aircraft i still consider myself capable of flying one into a prominent building like the WTC, assuming of course that the craft is already airborne and has all the features of a modern aircraft. the autopilot in connection with GPS does 99% of the job.

-in my opinion it is correct that the official versions and presentations of the WTC and especially the Pentagon "incident" look extremely fishy and your description of the "foldable wings" hits the nail on the head. the same goes for flight UA 93 which, as the large area of spread debris proves, was clearly shot down. but why spoil a nice story where heroic passengers sacrifice themselves with facts?

associating these acts with the Bilderbergs is however beyond my comprehension.

well how about you watch this documentary and get back to me....Even if my 14 year old nephew watched this he'd know the muslims didnt do this. Come on naam, investigate 911 and once you do this you want to know more!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739

[BygonKeaw]

Oh and whats your opinion about osama bin laden controlling the hijacking from a cave of 4 planes and get basic pilots to fly 3 commercial aeroplanes into 2 world trade centres and collapsing them both(the first buildings in history to collapse from fire damage, as the us goverment say this is y they went down) and the other plane into the pentagon after the pilot that struggled to control a light aircraft(according to his instructor) turn his commercial plane at a 270 degree manouver(impoosible without the plane falling out of the sky) then avoiding all lamp posts poles and 87 security cameras and smashing into the pentagon vapourising everything(scientificly impossible) from the plane apart from a rolls royce engine?? Oh i forgot to say they managed to leave the windows intact either side of the hole the plane entered, so did the plane fold its wings prior to impact?

-Osama did not control these terrorist acts from his cave. this was neither required nor would it have been possible.

-although my PPL has expired 28 years ago and i never piloted a big aircraft i still consider myself capable of flying one into a prominent building like the WTC, assuming of course that the craft is already airborne and has all the features of a modern aircraft. the autopilot in connection with GPS does 99% of the job.

-in my opinion it is correct that the official versions and presentations of the WTC and especially the Pentagon "incident" look extremely fishy and your description of the "foldable wings" hits the nail on the head. the same goes for flight UA 93 which, as the large area of spread debris proves, was clearly shot down. but why spoil a nice story where heroic passengers sacrifice themselves with facts?

associating these acts with the Bilderbergs is however beyond my comprehension.

well how about you watch this documentary and get back to me....Even if my 14 year old nephew watched this he'd know the muslims didnt do this. Come on naam, investigate 911 and once you do this you want to know more!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739

Debiunk that naam or anyone for that matter. If anyone can debunk it ill send you 100k THB via bank transfer. Seriously try to??

That doc is the evidence to shut u up once and for all.

[BygonKeaw]

This short video will make you cry Nothing to do with subject at hand!

Nothing to do with the subject in hand BUT the elite dont care about this and will make more of it on a scale never seen before just to get to there evil domination.

[Naam]

well how about you watch this documentary and get back to me....Even if my 14 year old nephew watched this he'd know the muslims didnt do this. Come on naam, investigate 911 and once you do this you want to know more!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739

BK, it is politically incorrect to assume, claim or prove that "the muslims didn't do it" besides... i don't need a video to arrive at my own conclusions or suspicions when other strong indications exist which have been published but nobody took note. there is no doubt that the aircrafts were piloted by arabs, most of them holding saudi passports although nearly all their names are of non-saudi origin, who did there flight training in Florida. there is also no doubt that the aircrafts hit the towers which then collapsed. i saw the second incident live. in my view the Pentagon incident was a poorly inscenated forgery meant for brain-amputated people who lack even rudimentary technical knowledge.

BUT it doesn't make sense that i "investigate" what happened on sep11, 2001 because it neither changes the past nor will i gain any information that enables me to prepare myself better for any rigours the future holds for me, my wife and my dog.

[BygonKeaw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4

Of course planes hit the towers but u need to research about the arabs that apparently flew them. 4 are still alive btw.

[BygonKeaw]

well how about you watch this documentary and get back to me....Even if my 14 year old nephew watched this he'd know the muslims didnt do this. Come on naam, investigate 911 and once you do this you want to know more!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739

BK, it is politically incorrect to assume, claim or prove that "the muslims didn't do it" besides... i don't need a video to arrive at my own conclusions or suspicions when other strong indications exist which have been published but nobody took note. there is no doubt that the aircrafts were piloted by arabs, most of them holding saudi passports although nearly all their names are of non-saudi origin, who did there flight training in Florida. there is also no doubt that the aircrafts hit the towers which then collapsed. i saw the second incident live. in my view the Pentagon incident was a poorly inscenated forgery meant for brain-amputated people who lack even rudimentary technical knowledge.

BUT it doesn't make sense that i "investigate" what happened on sep11, 2001 because it neither changes the past nor will i gain any information that enables me to prepare myself better for any rigours the future holds for me, my wife and my dog.

Yes me too naam and i fully believed what the media told me about who did it for 3 years. Once you watch it all again you will realise that what you saw that day is not exactly as it was There are hundreds of facts proving otherwise.

Once you watch that documentary you will realise it does make sense to seek the truth, why it happened and for what reason.

Bloody hel_l mate your so stubburn its unbelievable. Your worse than my father.

My advice would be...... watch it and then decide on your opinions. Its always good to see both sides of everthing so you can put forward your real opinion.

and yes it might just affect your wifes you and maybe your dogs future

[Naam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4

Of course planes hit the towers but u need to research about the arabs that apparently flew them. 4 are still alive btw.

the ones which climbed the Nanga Parbat with my grandmother last year and none of them used oxygen masks?

[BygonKeaw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4

Of course planes hit the towers but u need to research about the arabs that apparently flew them. 4 are still alive btw.

the ones which climbed the Nanga Parbat with my grandmother last year and none of them used oxygen masks?

http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

Oh 4 were still alive since when the bbc reported it in 2002 since then they have found alot more are alive. Oh dear It must of been bin laden in one of those planes, thats why they cant find him.

Edited May 21, 2009 by BygonKeaw

[BygonKeaw]

Oh no im getting this all wrong, silly me....bin laden isnt even wanted for the 911 attacks??? Omg the US goverment are making this all to confusing with there web of lies

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

[BygonKeaw]

Left handed??

Then ermmmmmmmm

[Naam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4

Of course planes hit the towers but u need to research about the arabs that apparently flew them. 4 are still alive btw.

the ones which climbed the Nanga Parbat with my grandmother last year and none of them used oxygen masks?

http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

Oh 4 were still alive since when the bbc reported it in 2002 since then they have found alot more are alive. Oh dear It must of been bin laden in one of those planes, thats why they cant find him.

BK, here's what you said:

"Of course planes hit the towers but u need to research about the arabs that apparently flew them. 4 are still alive"

-it is highly unlikely that those who flew the planes are still alive.

-it is a fact that scores of people in arab countries are bearing the same names as the hijackers.

question: if the hijackers had been westerners named John Smith, Ole Svenson, Werner Müller, Jean-Claude Meunier, etc. (or used these names) would the existence of their "comrades in name" prove that the attack was a part of a conspiracy arranged by the Bilderbergs, Illuminati, Zionists, Greenpeace, Pope, KGB, Thaksin or whoever?

[BygonKeaw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2rlAoKiy4

Of course planes hit the towers but u need to research about the arabs that apparently flew them. 4 are still alive btw.

the ones which climbed the Nanga Parbat with my grandmother last year and none of them used oxygen masks?

http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

Oh 4 were still alive since when the bbc reported it in 2002 since then they have found alot more are alive. Oh dear It must of been bin laden in one of those planes, thats why they cant find him.

BK, here's what you said:

"Of course planes hit the towers but u need to research about the arabs that apparently flew them. 4 are still alive"

-it is highly unlikely that those who flew the planes are still alive.

-it is a fact that scores of people in arab countries are bearing the same names as the hijackers.

question: if the hijackers had been westerners named John Smith, Ole Svenson, Werner Müller, Jean-Claude Meunier, etc. (or used these names) would the existence of their "comrades in name" prove that the attack was a part of a conspiracy arranged by the Bilderbergs, Illuminati, Zionists, Greenpeace, Pope, KGB, Thaksin or whoever?

I said apparently flew the planes. Just watch the documentary or shut up.

Im right along with millions of awakened people and your wrong again. The only evidence u have ever seen is what they have shown in main stream media(1 way traffic) which once analiyzed proves to be a complete load of <deleted>(any fool could debunk the offical story yet its seems u cant), To be honest George bush and the people behind the curtain have trained the general public(you) that well not to think so much they knew they could away with it.

Why the hel_l would the supposed terrorist pilot fly a a massive plane 3 feet off the ground and hit the pentagon in the strongest defensive angle. Obi Won couldn't do it, neither could the arab they say did it. I challenge anyone to prove to all of us that this is even possible, let alone where the multi-ton engines went, or why the most protected building IN THE WORLD was allowed to be struck. You cant.

911 in relation to this topic is the starting place to understand the lies and how things are manipulted behind the scenes(bilderberg group) to get a One world goverment!

Edited May 21, 2009 by BygonKeaw

[BygonKeaw]

Or i could just say naam...........Your way behind times mate.

[Naam]

I said apparently flew the planes. Just watch the documentary or shut up.

please take note of one thing "Bygone" poor boys who are scared shitless and run out of rational arguments can't tell me to shut up or watch any rubbish "documentary". and hey...! don't forget to look over your shoulder when you leave your home. the chip implanters are lurking all over. they might be waiting for you.