I have had farang girls buy me drinks and pick me up here in BKK

i am bothered by thai men all the time when i am alone. i totally disagree that they are reticent, but this is more in bangkok than anywhere else. one time i was waiting for the chao praya express boat and this older business man struck up a conversation with me, i thought to practice his english. i was polite but aloof, and declined his request for my phone number but before i went to get on the boat he grabbed my arm and asked me for a "sweet kiss" to remember me by. yikes. taxi and tuk tuk drivers are the worst. once late at night i had a taxi driver take me to some dark alley and try to convince me to go to a love hotel with him. he turned around in his seat and pinned me to my seat, feeling me up. i yelled at him to take me to my destination, he gave up and started driving again, for about 5 mins, then stopped and tried again... i got out and ran. basically if i am alone in thailand, a thai guy will jump in and try to fill the void, they can be bastards as much as the indian/arab/whatever men described above. never been asked if i was russian though, which is funny because i look it!

Wow. That is totally different from any experience I have ever had. Maybe it's because I speak Thai (and Southern at that) and as soon as they find out my husband is Thai and from Surat Thani they step well back. After all, all Southern men are killers, didn't you know?

i speak a good amount of thai too but it doesn't matter, and my boyfriend is thai as well (and would be a killer also if he was there)... dunno, something about me attracts the freakiest of thais. i also get a lot of harassment from indian men. this happened in penang especially (though not so much in india surprisingly!)... i was followed for 3 days by a man in penang who would yell obscenities at me from his motorbike. men are idiots sometimes.

Ah, the dreaded weirdo appeal. I had that for years, never could figure out why. It faded out a bit as I got older. Altho I still managed to attract a weirdo on the bus when I went back home last summer

I know my story sounds trivial compared to others on the thread, but I thought I'd share...

I think the only reason my boyfriend and I were there was because he wanted to eat Subway's steak & cheese sandwich and the closest store, at that time, was at Nana.

We were crossing the road towards that 7-11 in the gas station on the Nana intersection after having bought his much sought-after meal. He was walking in front of me and I was following behind him - apparently not close enough (I have short legs!) because out of the blue, this African guy came up to me and semi-grabbed my arm, asking how much I was. In a fright and extreme panic, I threw his hand off my arm and practically ran across the road without looking at the coming cars, scared out of my wits.

My boyfriend hadn't seen the incident as he was so intent on getting chips at the 7-11 for his sandwich - men and their food, lol. But you can imagine how pissed off I was at him for not holding my hand at such a shady part of town. I was mad but the fear got the best of me and I ended up crying on the cab ride home, feeling really disgusted and dirty, with my boyfriend feeling extremely guilty and apologising profusively for being careless.

One thing that night taught me - never venture around Nana unaccompanied at night. Heck! From reading the posts here, it seems I should avoid Nana at all costs!

The first time I went to thailand I spend most of the time in Raileih except for three days a spent in Ko Phi Phi and Bkk. Anyway we arrived in Ko Phi Phi about 2p.m so once we found a bungalow we run to one of the beaches in that island.

After a while my friends decided to go for a walk but I decided to stay laying under the sun...

Few minutes later a Thai man in his 50´s asked me if I would like a thai massage. I said no, because I did not feel like for a massage...

He said to me"well i massage for ten minutes and if you like it you come later to my parlour for a proper one" I did not want to hurt his feelings so I said OK. After five minutes talking to me he asked me "have you ever had sex on the beach?" I looked him attonished and then he added...

" Maybe we could have sex tonight in the beach, you and me"...

I was amazed but i found it very funny so I reply " thank you for the offer and as temptimg as it sounds i have to decline it (of course i was just being sarcastic... He really though I was going to say yes?!!!! .).

He asked again so then I replied him more honestly "look I have not come to thailand to have sex with strangers so do not asked me again"...He smiled at me and say"yes sure farang woman come here to take the sun and have sex with thai men"

This how I found out about the sexual interact between farang and thais ( i do not include any love relationship or anything just pure sex)

I know my story sounds trivial compared to others on the thread, but I thought I'd share...

I think the only reason my boyfriend and I were there was because he wanted to eat Subway's steak & cheese sandwich and the closest store, at that time, was at Nana.

We were crossing the road towards that 7-11 in the gas station on the Nana intersection after having bought his much sought-after meal. He was walking in front of me and I was following behind him - apparently not close enough (I have short legs!) because out of the blue, this African guy came up to me and semi-grabbed my arm, asking how much I was. In a fright and extreme panic, I threw his hand off my arm and practically ran across the road without looking at the coming cars, scared out of my wits.

My boyfriend hadn't seen the incident as he was so intent on getting chips at the 7-11 for his sandwich - men and their food, lol. But you can imagine how pissed off I was at him for not holding my hand at such a shady part of town. I was mad but the fear got the best of me and I ended up crying on the cab ride home, feeling really disgusted and dirty, with my boyfriend feeling extremely guilty and apologising profusively for being careless.

One thing that night taught me - never venture around Nana unaccompanied at night. Heck! From reading the posts here, it seems I should avoid Nana at all costs!

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You have my sympathies - and- I'm a man.

Nana and adjacent areas, are hardly places that "normal" people (men & women) venture to, unless they go there for the "zoo affect" that is, to see how

a deviant subsection of homo sapiens behave, drink and maybe; eat.

Other similar venues are Pattaya, soi Cowboy and ofcourse Patpong.

Having said that; aren't places like Nana and Pattaya esentially farang creations? Aren't the repulsive and degrading "sex shows" that are a speciality of such places choreographed to farang tastes?

Thais' seldom are gogo fans. Gogos are essentially a farang creation, as are sex shows; which, in my opinion, are about the ultimate in degradation of womankind.

You've got to remember that animal species live and thrive in specific environments. The fact that an African grabbed your arm in a specific environment (Nana) does not in any way link such an action to African behavioral paterns, rather; to the environment in which such behaviour is accepted and considered normal.

Are you aware of the actions of 'normal' (non African) farangs in so called "speciality" bars?

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**start making sense or stop posting, the joke is getting old**

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**start making sense or stop posting, the joke is getting old**

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I for one don't see the "joke".

The truth and facts kinda hurt ???

the post was edited by cdnvic for appropriate comments and was not the original post by "the dude"

I would rather you left the insulting posts there so everyone can see what absolute prats they make of themselves.

I wish the post was left as well because it was not in any way insulting but do to removal it is assumed as such

I wish the post was left as well because it was not in any way insulting but do to removal it is assumed as such

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Sorry, to rehash an old topic but my original point was that farang women in Thailand should be able to go about the same day to day transactions as men without all that crap. Going for coffee in Starbucks should be a normal matter for women as for men. Just because I entered Starbucks Nana on my own doesn't mean that i'm looking for business!! It means I want a coffee! I just wish that more men understood that. I have the same right to be alone as anyone else. It's when someone tags me and hassles me that I have a problem.

I wish the post was left as well because it was not in any way insulting but do to removal it is assumed as such

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Sorry, to rehash an old topic but my original point was that farang women in Thailand should be able to go about the same day to day transactions as men without all that crap. Going for coffee in Starbucks should be a normal matter for women as for men. Just because I entered Starbucks Nana on my own doesn't mean that i'm looking for business!! It means I want a coffee! I just wish that more men understood that. I have the same right to be alone as anyone else. It's when someone tags me and hassles me that I have a problem.

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Puddleduck:

You gotta know that any young-ish woman; sitting / walking / eating / drinking / starbucking -at Nana and / or similar locations, will be assumed to be "fair game' by the stalwarts who happen to perambulate such venues.

At Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya, soi 33 etc. such occurrences are routine, relevant to almost any young woman and are not restricted to farangs; every Thai girl will tell you that.

Let me also say that this sort of thing happens in a place as chaste as Singapore,

providing ofcourse that you're in an inapproprite area - such as Geylang.

I'm sure you're aware of the things that happen to women like yourself at Bondi Beach in Sydney, Australia.

Certain places in Thailand are somewhat more blatant in their tolerance of such behaviour, same as almost any other country, except perhaps Saudi Arabia,

where one could possibly be stoned to death for something less intrusive , but then, that country is unique. Another country where I'd find it difficult to imagine such things happening is Japan, but then, everyone knows how polite the Japanese are.

Could you imagine your Starbucks like reverie being so rudely interrupted in a

non tourist Thai city like (say) Mae Hong Sohn?

Suggest you do your Starbucking outside of the farang ghettos - even your coffee will taste better.

I didn't realise Farang girls got so much shit here.. I've heard a few stories about taxi drivers but I didn't think they'd get propositioned like that. Wow -what an eye opener.

The only time (to my knowledge) I have been "mistaken" for a working girl was when I was 13, wearing short shorts and a singlet (almost a uniform for preteen and early teen girls here). Hardly "inviting" anything.

Really interesting thread (at least at the start) - am just starting to explore this website, originally just for the Visa stuff (I "Live" elsewhere on net) - but I always find other people's views and opinions of interest - even when I don't agree with them, or just think they are bit strange! And Thailand is perhaps a good place for folk with "strange opinions" - like me?

Never occurred to me that the Farang Women would be getting propositioned as hookers. FWIW my take on "are you Russian" is 100% a "polite" form of "are you a hooker".

I dunno if this of any use (or whether it translates accross the sexes), but I find when getting hassled by the Tuk Tuk drivers about a "massage" , a side street vendor or just someone who invariably "Just" wants something, is to give a brief weak smile and a barely perceptible shake of the head. With a bit of practice it becomes automatic and little more than the same as shooing away a mozzie - where YOU barely even think about it. I never bother to say anything. and they actually barely register on my radar.

I am not of course going to say that being propositioned as a Hooker is a good thing, but as long as it stays verbal I would put it in the same bracket as an annoyance of Thailand, whose importance has to be weighed up by each person against the plusses (and other minuses) of life in Thailand. If course for every 1 bloke who has asked you outright, another 10 have thought / assumed you were. Same as me being a white bloke carries a message in Thailand (admitedly for me not entirely wrong). I still find it kinda weird really where having spent all my like in a world where my skin colour does not actual convey any messages.

FWIW I am a single bloke. 39 (honest!) although shortly to be married ) have spent a lot of time in Thailand over the years - and find that the downside (for me) does not really outweigh the good stuff, but each to their own.

I was getting my ticket at the BTS station when an Indian guy followed me and asked me if I came from Russia.

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... Next time as you claim if a Indian looking guy approach you asking "Are you from Russia ?" you ask him back, where he is from and post here.

If you have mobile with camera take a picture and complain to police.

Indians have better job to do in their own country.

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You: "Help me officer, an Indian looking man approached me and asked if I am Russian."

Thai cop: "Well, are you?"

I wouldn't expect too much help in that department!

Well, it happened again for about the 4th or 5th time since I've been in Thailand. I was getting my ticket at the BTS station when an Indian guy followed me and asked me if I came from Russia. It was about 4 in the afternoon and I was dressed just to go shopping so I don't know what made him approach me. It's happened before in places such as CM2 and bedsupper club that I was approached and asked if I worked there. The first time it happened I didn't understand what the guy meant and I said 'yes, I work in Bangkok as a teacher'. The guy asked me how much did I go for! I can understand if it happens in a place like CM2 where so many of the girls are 'working girls' but I think I should be able to do my shopping without being harrassed by perverts.

Happened to me also when I was in Bangkok, being mistaken for Russian. It was my second day back in Thailand and the guy was quite polite about it. It was a German man in his thirties who approached me in Siam Square of all places. I was on my own which never helps. He didn't actually ask if I was a working girl but looking back there was something shifty about him so I'm pretty sure he was looking for business.

I tan quick so few days in the sun sorted that out.

I think you ladies are possibly being too sensitive, So often in hongkong i,m mistaken for a western male prostitute by hiso chinese women, which normaly happens in high end hotel lobbys,

I dont let it bother me so much but female chinese friends find it disturbing as they are percieved as my customer, In the beginning i never noticed or thought western male prostitutes existed till it was pointed out to me,

Also here in bkk i dislike being groped by street girls or ladyboys,

In the end this is asia and the fact that prostitution is the norm in many forms has to be accepted, Those who cant accept best close the gate behind them.

5 year old thread?

Assumed as there were 7 people reading the thread At the time of posting age was irrelivant?

And 3 at this moment,

Why would you assume the age of a thread is irrelevant? Life is not static. Why would the forum be as well?

Why would you assume the age of a thread is irrelevant? Life is not static. Why would the forum be as well?

Very strange answer...obviously people are still reading the thread so i see no reason not to add content to it,

Your a mod if you believe the thread to be dead then delete it,

I'm aware that in Thailand people try to be friendly and are genuinely curious about where you come from. It's one of the things that I love about this country. I sometimes find that while sitting on a bus that the person sitting next to me starts asking questions, usually to try and practice their English, but in this instance the guy followed me down the street and up the stairs to the BTS station and had to say 'excuse me' a few times to get my attention. He definately wasn't just a curious guy wondering where I was from. This has happened to me before and it has never been Thai guys, only Indians for some reason. Also, if you're going to ask if someone is from a particular country, Russia, is a strange one to pick. As far as I'm aware not a lot of tourists come from there. Why not Britain, USA, Sweden or Australia for example as I understand that a lot of female tourists who come to Thailand tend to come from these countries.

Russian has become more common in Pattaya than English these days, there's loads of Russians (Eastern Europeans at least) and unfortunately the general perception is that the females are 'working girls', which is also true of the Middle East.

In my brief travels around Thailand this happened to me on at least three occasions. The first time seemed innocent enough and my Thai bf was with me, we were on some tourist trip. The second time was one of the few occasions I was left alone shopping and another was when I was with his father, kind of embarrasing now.. espeacially since it wasn't until after that I was told about the Russian working girls. When I told my bf about it he didn't believe me at first! lol I'm definately making sure he reads this thread!

This sort of stereotyping seems to follow everywhere, I think people in thai-farang relationships generally might be able to relate.

One time in our own city here in Canada some douche-bag jerk came up to me while I was walking in with my bf and some friends and with the sickest smile on his face, yelled at me "Not bad, not bad. How Much? How much?!"

... he didn't know my bf knows Muay Thai.

Careful pattayaparent & shikon jewel,

Sbk might jump down your throat for posting on a 5 year old thread which people still read,

Remember life is,nt static so why should a forum be or a thread for that matter,

She might also jump down your throat for commenting on moderation.

I also got sucked in thinking this was a recent topic... which it's not. Checking the date is not the first thing that I do. Maybe thaivisa could put old topics to sleep where you can read but not post... like they do when a topic is closed. It would save the problem of answering very old threads. If the topic is still relevant than just start a new thread with more recent information. I've heard all the horror stories of women having to deal with things that men don't have to go through. I'm just glad to be male.