Big Trouble In Tourist Thailand

[snuggzzz]

Give these guys a break <deleted>, they are here to help you!

The High Profile visibility of the Volunteers goes beyond the 'Helpers for farang stage', there Black uniform shoulder 'Gold' insignia depicts them as Police volunteers, the additions of such things as handcuffs or indeed, (as reported above) batons indicates a Semi-Paramilitary Group; but what are it's remit..?? another indiscretion...(HM) How can it justify plain-clothes illegal operations..?? (apart from grassing -up ex-pats..........) Perhaps an HM1973 Bargaining tool...........

????

In 2007, 2 Russian young women were executed by an assassin, it took the prescence of the Commissioner in overall charge in Thailand's Police to attend Pattaya's Police and inform all the Police management and Officers to effectively refrain from corruption in order to solve it. They did as asked, arrested suspects, and established connections.

Now this same same, Pattaya Police Force get HM effectively to do it's biding through idiots who want to be 'Police' in order to make their life easier, HM then allows his business interests to take over, ie. being first at fatal accidents, road and otherwise, fed to him to show in graphic detail with photos, how their nearest and dearest died.

This is a corrupt practice, endorsed recently when a farang fell over in Walking Street, I witnessed them they saw it, never did see one them rush to assist him or his family, nor escort them back to the Hotel etc., which is this help Group, are they enamoured by HM's connections...??

We all Know HM enterprises, TV, digital and newspapers, and it appears now it's all a sham,

[spirodj]

How many members of this forum,have volunteered to work with any organization in Thailand?

You gotta have working visa for that... I think

[Lite Beer]

How many members of this forum,have volunteered to work with any organization in Thailand?

You gotta have working visa for that... I think

No. You need a Work Permit.

[sanook2me]

Does the volunteer thing happen in Bangors? i've never seen them..

[KhunAussie52]

Does the volunteer thing happen in Bangors? i've never seen them..

Yes they are in Bangkok,looked at there website yesterday.

[KhunAussie52]

How many members of this forum,have volunteered to work with any organization in Thailand?

You gotta have working visa for that... I think

that does not answer the question!!!!!!

[simon43]

LiteBeer is correct - you need a WP to do this volunteer work and - despite managing to obtain a police volunteer visa - I never managed to obtain the WP

The guys in Bangers do a lot of in-office translation work and helping tourists/foeigners to file reports of theft, muggings etc. I did this work at Lumpini police station a few years ago and it's still going, expanding and soon to have volunteers based in other BKK police stations.

Simon

[spirodj]

How many members of this forum,have volunteered to work with any organization in Thailand?

You gotta have working visa for that... I think

No. You need a Work Permit.

Sorry I meant Working Permit... English is not my first language.

[mca]

Everyone just calm down.

I read that in a Harry Enfield "The Scousers" voice cdnvic.

[cdnvic]

Everyone just calm down.

I read that in a Harry Enfield "The Scousers" voice cdnvic.

Funny how realistic that video is to moderating a forum.

[mca]

So you all wear big, curly wigs then.

"Ey soft lad. There'll be none o' that involving monarchy in politics stuff on 'ere they do doh don't dey doh?"

[jfchandler]

I have nothing for or against the Tourist Police volunteers... And in my years of living in Thailand (BKK), I've never had any contact with the Thai Tourist Police or the farang volunteers.

But it's interesting and perhaps telling to me that, despite the presence of at least a couple of the volunteers and/or their supporters here, they can't seem to manage a simple answer to any of the simple, legitimate questions I've posed here?

--What is the role/duty of the Thai Tourist police vs. the regular Thai police, and how do the two interact?

--If a farang gets into some difficulty with the regular Thai police, what role if any can/will the Tourist Police play?

--At least in Bangkok, how can the Thai Tourist Police play any useful role if for the most part, as generally reported here, their officers don't speak much/any English?

--And in regard to UdonFarang's comments, how is a farang supposed to volunteer for anything legally in Thailand when being a volunteer requires one to pay for and jump thru the hoops of annually renewing a Thai work permit (or face arrest for illegal working under Thai law)???

[britmaveric]

-police volunteers are issued work permits as far as I know.

-assist tourist police when foreigners are invoved - intermediary since language might be an issue as well as thai law.

Any rate why don't you talk to Howard - he's probably the most accessible person you have ever met. Sits down at the van on the top of Walking Street daily. Anyways maybe next time I see him - I'll ask him direct questions so we can put this to bed, however some people still will whinge about them regardless.

Uniforms - believe he stated those were chosen by the Thai Tourist Police, not the foreign staff. Anyways I've always seen them to be a very positive influence where I have encountered them... Pattaya, Bangkok, Phuket and Chiang Mai. Those that whinge will never be happy, so I understand why HM has given up trying to reason with people on the forums.

[KhunAussie52]

I have nothing for or against the Tourist Police volunteers... And in my years of living in Thailand (BKK), I've never had any contact with the Thai Tourist Police or the farang volunteers.

But it's interesting and perhaps telling to me that, despite the presence of at least a couple of the volunteers and/or their supporters here, they can't seem to manage a simple answer to any of the simple, legitimate questions I've posed here?

--What is the role/duty of the Thai Tourist police vs. the regular Thai police, and how do the two interact?

--If a farang gets into some difficulty with the regular Thai police, what role if any can/will the Tourist Police play?

--At least in Bangkok, how can the Thai Tourist Police play any useful role if for the most part, as generally reported here, their officers don't speak much/any English?

--And in regard to UdonFarang's comments, how is a farang supposed to volunteer for anything legally in Thailand when being a volunteer requires one to pay for and jump thru the hoops of annually renewing a Thai work permit (or face arrest for illegal working under Thai law)???

Thailand Tourist Police Volunteer

Volunteers from more than 13 countries are helping tourists in Phuket by joining Phuket Tourist Police in the Section 14 Sub-Division 3. My purpose of joining tourist police phuket is to assist Thailand Tourist Police to help and assist foreigner tourists to locate places easily along with safety in life and property of tourist. You can see volunteers, patrolling Soi Bangla after 8 PM assisting tourist in various activities. CHIEF Commander of Tourist Police is Pol. Major General Panya Mamen. James Madigan is the Group Lead for volunteers and the there are 4 teams that rotate for patrolling to assist Thailand Police and SGT Wichai and SGT A helps to recruit volunteers in the group.

Our Vision

It is the vision of the Tourist Police Department Auxiliary to be a working part of the Phuket Tourist Police Department’s Community problem solving partnership. We take responsibility for providing to the Phuket Police Department volunteer services of the highest professional standards to help deter crime, enhance the sense of personal safety and security, and build a community spirit in which crime cannot flourish.

What is the Mission?

It is the mission of the Phuket Tourist Police Department Auxiliary to work in partnership with the Department and Community to keep Phuket a safe and secure place for all of its citizens to live.

We will help the Phuket Police Department promote public safety and reduce the level of crime and its impact.

We will do this by educating the public and by assisting the Department in all of its functions, except those that are within the sole purview of sworn officers.

Who is the Program Co-ordinator?

The Chief of Phuket Tourist Police will appoint a Police Auxiliary Program Co-ordinator from the management ranks of the Police Department.

The program Co-ordinator will have the responsibility to co-ordinate all aspects of the Police Auxiliary Program.

These aspects include: recruitment, selection, determination of program duties, responsibilities and assignments, member placement, member performance evaluation, communication and co-ordination with other department managers and program evaluation.

The Phuket Tourist Police Department Auxiliary is structured to minimise bureaucracy and maximise the productive use of Volunteer’s hours.

Do you want to join as Volunteer?

The following requirements must be met to qualify for membership in the Police Auxiliary Program:

• Must hold a Non Immigrant ‘B’ or ‘O’ Visa.
  
• Must be at least 18 years of age.
  
• Must be a high school graduate or equivalent.
  
• Must pass a thorough criminal background check, the extent to be determined by the Phuket Tourist Police Department.
  
• Must have near fluency in the Thai language and/or any other language.
  
• Obliged, from time to time, to submit to urine/drug testing.
  
• Must have high moral and ethical standards.
  
• Must be willing to comply with all applicable Phuket Tourist Police Department policies and procedures.
  
• Must have a strong desire and commitment to serve the Phuket Tourist community and its citizens.
  
• Never have been convicted of a felony crime or other offences as determined by the Phuket Tourist Police Department.
  
• Possess a current and valid Thai driver’s license or obtain a license within one year of appointment.
  

Application Process

The application process for the Phuket Tourist Police Department Auxiliary Program is as follows:

• Completion of an initial application.
  
• Application review by Auxiliary Program Co-ordinator or designee.
  
• Completion of comprehensive background packet.
  
• Background investigation.
  
• The background investigation will be co-ordinated by the Police Auxiliary Program Co-ordinator and will include at a minimum: a criminal history clearance, personal references and employment history.
  
• Interview with the Police Auxiliary Program Co-ordinator or designee and an interview board selected by the Program Co-ordinator
  

The duty of Tourist Police is to facilitate and secure tourists’ though out Thailand. So there are some advices for tourists. It involves the way to take care of yourself as well as any offers some helpful advice’s which visitors should be aware of when traveling in Thailand. If you are working in Phuket and interested to join as volunteer you can visit www.phukettouristpolice.go.th or send email to contact @hardeepkapoor.com

If any foreigner needs any kind of help or assistance in Phuket, please call 1155.

[KhunAussie52]

"-If a farang gets into some difficulty with the regular Thai police, what role if any can/will the Tourist Police play?"

I thought that would be self evident.........they would do what ever the could to assist, regardless of a "Black Paramilitary uniform"......!!!

Within the law,i might add.

Edited August 24, 2009 by Udonfarang52

[perousing]

"-If a farang gets into some difficulty with the regular Thai police, what role if any can/will the Tourist Police play?"

I thought that would be self evident.........they would do what ever the could to assist, regardless of a "Black Paramilitary uniform"......!!!

would tea money have to be paid twice then?

[KhunAussie52]

"At least in Bangkok, how can the Thai Tourist Police play any useful role if for the most part, as generally reported here, their officers don't speak much/any English?"

I thought that people from all over the world came to Bangkok.....do they all speak English?

[KhunAussie52]

"-If a farang gets into some difficulty with the regular Thai police, what role if any can/will the Tourist Police play?"

I thought that would be self evident.........they would do what ever the could to assist, regardless of a "Black Paramilitary uniform"......!!!

would tea money have to be paid twice then?

Bloody good question,i will give it some thought

[KhunAussie52]

" As tourism to Thailand grows in leaps and bounds, do tourists need to take lessons in the art of being good guests?

Noel Kelly, head of the Koh Samui Tourist Police Volunteers' Group on Thailand’s Koh Samui Island, has a unique view into the current state of tourism on the island. “Petty theft is a major problem”, he says. “We work with the Tourist Police to provide assistance in these and other cases. The role of the Tourist Police is not to police the tourists, but to act as a cultural bridge.”

[KhunAussie52]

Steve Graham was the farang who set up the Volunteer scheme

here is his story,please read!!!!!

http://www.touristpolice-udon.com/Volunteers.html

Tourist Police Division

Royal Thai Police

Tourist Police Division is agency affiliated with Central Investigation Bureau and Royal Thai Police working under supervision of Ministry of Tourism and Sport.

Responsible in crime prevention and suppression , investigating and arresting. concered about the tourist and international crimes in case that may cause an impact on tourism industry , help facilitating and providing safety of life and belongings for the tourists and working together with or giving support to other related agencies or those we are assigned to.

Edited August 24, 2009 by Udonfarang52

[simon43]

Udonfarang52, that information that you posted about the Phuket Tourist Police Volunteers seems rather out of date. The most up-to-date details can be found on their website at http://www.phuket-tourist-police-volunteers.com, where there are all the relevant contact details.

I wrote an article about the Phuket volunteers earlier this year. The url (if it doesn't get killed) is:

http://www.stickmanweekly.com/ReadersSubmi...reader4929.html

JFChandler, in regards to your comments about the BKK police not speaking much English, this was one of the primary reasons why the tourist assistance program was established several years ago, with translators based at (initially) the main police station at Lumpini Park, (which is the primary location for tourists to report thefts, muggings etc). All translators had to speak good Thai, and many volunteers were recruited from the Thai language and Thai Studies courses at Chulalongkorn University.

Simon

[KhunAussie52]

Udonfarang52, that information that you posted about the Phuket Tourist Police Volunteers seems rather out of date. The most up-to-date details can be found on their website at http://www.phuket-tourist-police-volunteers.com, where there are all the relevant contact details.

I wrote an article about the Phuket volunteers earlier this year. The url (if it doesn't get killed) is:

http://www.stickmanweekly.com/ReadersSubmi...reader4929.html

JFChandler, in regards to your comments about the BKK police not speaking much English, this was one of the primary reasons why the tourist assistance program was established several years ago, with translators based at (initially) the main police station at Lumpini Park, (which is the primary location for tourists to report thefts, muggings etc). All translators had to speak good Thai, and many volunteers were recruited from the Thai language and Thai Studies courses at Chulalongkorn University.

Simon

Sorry about that,i will update my bookmarks!!!!!

[KhunAussie52]

nice press release!!

still waiting to hear what any volunteer has actually done that would be considered helpful.

volunteered at Lumphini?

one the most notoriously corrupt stations in Thailand.

how could any self-respecting person associate with them.

i was locked up there once and had money extorted from me.

a young thai couple were locked in there without charge for a month (twice), the girl gave birth to her child in the cells.

so you do the police's work (taking reports) so they really can do less than nothing.

well you're just being used by the police like all of us.

udonfarang52 .. are you 52 years of age?

born 1957 ... if so you must have been 18 when saigon fell in 1975.

just checking... you brought it up.

would you volunteer to to work with organised crime in your home country?

so honestly, tell us why you volunteered.

how does it make you feel?

are you comfortable working with criminals?

from Udon farang.You have my age wrong,since you have checked my profile,check again.

DVA entitlement number TSS2547.....TPI 100%

I will accept your apology!!!

If you have the intestinal fortitude!!!

Edited August 24, 2009 by Udonfarang52

[ucantbeserious]

nope never checked ur profile...

ok asked and answered,, that at least.

what about the more important questions i posted?

any response?

[KhunAussie52]

would you volunteer to to work with organised crime in your home country?

so honestly, tell us why you volunteered.

how does it make you feel?

are you comfortable working with criminals?

You make some inflammatory remarks.As i have stated in previous posts,i am no longer a Volunteer.

Why i volunteered is none of your business

I feel absolutely wonderful,i live in the LOS,am well looked after in relation to my military pension.have more Thai friends then i do Farang.

And i enjoy every day!!!!

What do you mean,"by working with criminals"?.........~!!!!!!

[easyride]

Sounds interesting.

Can someone in UK upload it to Piratebay?

Bit quick off the mark aren't we?

Not even made/ broadcast yet.

[KhunAussie52]

So you were locked up in the slammer......In Thai...."Som nom na"

Quote-e press release!!

still waiting to hear what any volunteer has actually done that would be considered helpful.

volunteered at Lumphini?

one the most notoriously corrupt stations in Thailand.

how could any self-respecting person associate with them.

i was locked up there once and had money extorted from me.

a young thai couple were locked in there without charge for a month (twice), the girl gave birth to her child in the cells.

so you do the police's work (taking reports) so they really can do less than nothing.

well you're just being used by the police like all of us.

Edited August 24, 2009 by Udonfarang52

[perousing]

So you were locked up in the slammer......In Thai...."Som nom na"

Quote-e press release!!

still waiting to hear what any volunteer has actually done that would be considered helpful.

volunteered at Lumphini?

one the most notoriously corrupt stations in Thailand.

how could any self-respecting person associate with them.

i was locked up there once and had money extorted from me.

a young thai couple were locked in there without charge for a month (twice), the girl gave birth to her child in the cells.

so you do the police's work (taking reports) so they really can do less than nothing.

well you're just being used by the police like all of us.

why dont you read it properly locked up and money extorted typical ex tourist police reply SOM NOM NA

[KhunAussie52]

So you were locked up in the slammer......In Thai...."Som nom na"

Quote-e press release!!

still waiting to hear what any volunteer has actually done that would be considered helpful.

volunteered at Lumphini?

one the most notoriously corrupt stations in Thailand.

how could any self-respecting person associate with them.

i was locked up there once and had money extorted from me.

a young thai couple were locked in there without charge for a month (twice), the girl gave birth to her child in the cells.

so you do the police's work (taking reports) so they really can do less than nothing.

well you're just being used by the police like all of us.

why dont you read it properly locked up and money extorted typical ex tourist police reply SOM NOM NA

Nothing further to say to you.......Khao jai krap.........(Thai)

[perousing]

I UNDERSTAND ( ENGLISH )