Let's put it to a vote. As a German citizen I couldn't vote. Neither could any of the international contingency here at ThaiVisa. This is your chance. And any Americans willing to reconsider, too.

There are options that show a bias in the questionaire, thus an oportunity to have the results skewed.

We wouldn't want Bush to win on chads again would we?

BTW, what does "Give the country back to it's people" mean? Return all lands to the indigenous Indians?

After her ad-lib interview on Thai television, I'd vote for Hilary.

Give the country back to the injuns?

That NOT as stupid as it sounds.

Reckon Hilary mite be a good option too.

Like give New Zealand back to the Maoris...<deleted>.

Dunno about OZ and the Australian Aboriginals.

Let's put it to a vote. As a German citizen I couldn't vote. Neither could any of the international contingency here at ThaiVisa. This is your chance. And any Americans willing to reconsider, too.

as a german citizen (who has lived 15 years in the Greatest Nation on Earth™) ah sez "Boss Obahmah's mouf too big before an' speshully after elections. made promises he can't keep. really positive was only his recent decision to scrap the plan for radar stations in the Czech Republic and missile sites in Poland."

There are options that show a bias in the questionaire, thus an oportunity to have the results skewed.

What on earth are you talking, Harcourt?

BTW, what does "Give the country back to it's people" mean? Return all lands to the indigenous Indians?

Ding, ding, ding. Another winner. Yes, return the land to the natives. We could bring back the buffalo, too! For however many thousands of years the Indian has inhabited America and not a single economic depression. No poor and no hunger. No hoarding and no lack. Free health care. And they respected the environment. Where's my time machine?

BTW, who was the single vote for being SAVED by the ONE? Hmmmm . . . .

After her ad-lib interview on Thai television, I'd vote for Hilary.

Hillary??

Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton??? Enough of the family tag teams for the presidency.

There are options that show a bias in the questionaire, thus an oportunity to have the results skewed.

What on earth are you talking, Harcourt?

BTW, what does "Give the country back to it's people" mean? Return all lands to the indigenous Indians?

Ding, ding, ding. Another winner. Yes, return the land to the natives. We could bring back the buffalo, too!

There are probably enough buffaloes in Thailand to be going on with

I didn't vote. I tried to pick one of the performing parrots but just couldn't. I felt like I was wasting my vote no matter who I pick. I tried to ignore the electoral college and pick , but what is the point, my state was going red no matter what I did. So, I stayed home and watched history unfold, like it does everyday, waiting for what these power hungry ego manics to to us now.

I didn't vote. I tried to pick one of the performing parrots but just couldn't. I felt like I was wasting my vote no matter who I pick. I tried to ignore the electoral college and pick , but what is the point, my state was going red no matter what I did. So, I stayed home and watched history unfold, like it does everyday, waiting for what these power hungry ego manics to to us now.

Ron Paul

BTW, did anyone check out the recent CNN poll (I believe it was CNN) on ending the Federal Reserve? At the time I voted the tally was a whooping 89% in favour of abolishing the Fed out of 11,000+ votes cast! Bill HR1207, sponsored by Ron Paul. Audit the Fed!

Let's put it to a vote. As a German citizen I couldn't vote. Neither could any of the international contingency here at ThaiVisa. This is your chance. And any Americans willing to reconsider, too.

as a german citizen (who has lived 15 years in the Greatest Nation on Earth™) ah sez "Boss Obahmah's mouf too big before an' speshully after elections. made promises he can't keep. really positive was only his recent decision to scrap the plan for radar stations in the Czech Republic and missile sites in Poland."

I would not have guessed that you've been living in Australia for 15 years!

I didn't vote. I tried to pick one of the performing parrots but just couldn't. I felt like I was wasting my vote no matter who I pick. I tried to ignore the electoral college and pick , but what is the point, my state was going red no matter what I did. So, I stayed home and watched history unfold, like it does everyday, waiting for what these power hungry ego manics to to us now.

There's an old post-election adage that's valid in every sort of election, from national elections to school committee votes: if you didn't vote, don't complain about the result!

There are options that show a bias in the questionaire, thus an oportunity to have the results skewed.

What on earth are you talking, Harcourt?

BTW, what does "Give the country back to it's people" mean? Return all lands to the indigenous Indians?

Ding, ding, ding. Another winner. Yes, return the land to the natives. We could bring back the buffalo, too!

There are probably enough buffaloes in Thailand to be going on with

Oh, give me a home, where the buffalo roam, and the deer and the antelope play.....

I didn't vote. I tried to pick one of the performing parrots but just couldn't. I felt like I was wasting my vote no matter who I pick. I tried to ignore the electoral college and pick , but what is the point, my state was going red no matter what I did. So, I stayed home and watched history unfold, like it does everyday, waiting for what these power hungry ego manics to to us now.

There's an old post-election adage that's valid in every sort of election, from national elections to school committee votes: if you didn't vote, don't complain about the result!

When the choices I am forced between are these sh1t filled silk stockings I have every right to complain! Palin is a complaint that could take a whole hour. Even after the election as well because I didn't vote for any of these bastards. Besides, because of the electoral college even if I did vote it would have been wiped away because of my neighbors. It isn't one person one vote here, it's a fking average! I have every right to complain about a system that isn't working.

I didn't vote. I tried to pick one of the performing parrots but just couldn't. I felt like I was wasting my vote no matter who I pick. I tried to ignore the electoral college and pick , but what is the point, my state was going red no matter what I did. So, I stayed home and watched history unfold, like it does everyday, waiting for what these power hungry ego manics to to us now.

Ron Paul

BTW, did anyone check out the recent CNN poll (I believe it was CNN) on ending the Federal Reserve? At the time I voted the tally was a whooping 89% in favour of abolishing the Fed out of 11,000+ votes cast! Bill HR1207, sponsored by Ron Paul. Audit the Fed!

Will never happen. As long as we are willing to put on our money that we trust an imaginary man than the Fed will act as that imaginary man over our money. Americans bow our heads to experts way too often before asking why.

Let's put it to a vote. As a German citizen I couldn't vote. Neither could any of the international contingency here at ThaiVisa. This is your chance. And any Americans willing to reconsider, too.

as a german citizen (who has lived 15 years in the Greatest Nation on Earth™) ah sez "Boss Obahmah's mouf too big before an' speshully after elections. made promises he can't keep. really positive was only his recent decision to scrap the plan for radar stations in the Czech Republic and missile sites in Poland."

I would not have guessed that you've been living in Australia for 15 years!

it is a well kept secret that Florida is an Aussie state

I didn't vote. I tried to pick one of the performing parrots but just couldn't. I felt like I was wasting my vote no matter who I pick. I tried to ignore the electoral college and pick , but what is the point, my state was going red no matter what I did. So, I stayed home and watched history unfold, like it does everyday, waiting for what these power hungry ego manics to to us now.

There's an old post-election adage that's valid in every sort of election, from national elections to school committee votes: if you didn't vote, don't complain about the result!

When the choices I am forced between are these sh1t filled silk stockings I have every right to complain! Palin is a complaint that could take a whole hour. Even after the election as well because I didn't vote for any of these bastards. Besides, because of the electoral college even if I did vote it would have been wiped away because of my neighbors. It isn't one person one vote here, it's a fking average! I have every right to complain about a system that isn't working.

Just a playful dig in the ribs.

Yeah, it's a funny system that electoral college thing you have....not that I understand it enought to be able to say that it's funny (funny-odd, not funny-haha). Mind you, democracy in any true form, by definition only produces average results (I mean average as in not the best) because it is (or is supposed to be) majority rule.....this means the best minds and best ideas in the country are always over-ruled.

I propose that the best system would borrow from the idea of democracy of the people voting, but restrict the people allowed to vote to only those that are in the 70th (say) percentile in IQ and EQ scores. Obviously the people running for election would have to pass that benchmark too.

When the choices I am forced between are these sh1t filled silk stockings I have every right to complain! Palin is a complaint that could take a whole hour. Even after the election as well because I didn't vote for any of these bastards. Besides, because of the electoral college even if I did vote it would have been wiped away because of my neighbors. It isn't one person one vote here, it's a fking average! I have every right to complain about a system that isn't working.

That is the problem in a nutshell.

If the powers that be need proof they need only hold a true election

(yeah like that is going to happen) & add one box to the ballot.

That box would read none of the above.

If enough check none of the above then so be it.

The nominations did not reflect the true choice of the people. Start over

I have always found one thing perplexing about the US electoral system.

Why is it we choose from 50 candidates (57 in Obama's world) for our Miss America, but we only choose from 2 candidates for President?

I voted to give the US back to it's people.

Just a playful dig in the ribs.

Yeah, it's a funny system that electoral college thing you have....not that I understand it enought to be able to say that it's funny (funny-odd, not funny-haha). Mind you, democracy in any true form, by definition only produces average results (I mean average as in not the best) because it is (or is supposed to be) majority rule.....this means the best minds and best ideas in the country are always over-ruled.

I propose that the best system would borrow from the idea of democracy of the people voting, but restrict the people allowed to vote to only those that are in the 70th (say) percentile in IQ and EQ scores. Obviously the people running for election would have to pass that benchmark too.

I know you were just kidding. However, the eletoral college along with the two party system is a real problem. Votes below the federal level will be one person one vote, but when voting for the president the it's more like states voting for the office. So, if there are more Republicans living in a state than Democrats that state will go to the Republicans regardless of what the other people in the state voted. It's crap.

I like you're IQ idea, but than I fear only 10% could vote and the same people would still get in.

That is the problem in a nutshell.

If the powers that be need proof they need only hold a true election

(yeah like that is going to happen) & add one box to the ballot.

That box would read none of the above.

If enough check none of the above then so be it.

The nominations did not reflect the true choice of the people. Start over

Yes, time for cleaning house the way Jefferson suggested, burn down and rebuild to avoid the decay of liberty by those who seek power. No, electoral college, no two party system, no lobbists, free campagin funding (Public radio and TV) and more accurate representation of the American people.

I have always found one thing perplexing about the US electoral system.

Why is it we choose from 50 candidates (57 in Obama's world) for our Miss America, but we only choose from 2 candidates for President?

I voted to give the US back to it's people.

American Idol is more of a fair vote than the Presidental election, that's fking sad.

I didn't vote. I tried to pick one of the performing parrots but just couldn't. I felt like I was wasting my vote no matter who I pick. I tried to ignore the electoral college and pick , but what is the point, my state was going red no matter what I did. So, I stayed home and watched history unfold, like it does everyday, waiting for what these power hungry ego manics to to us now.

There's an old post-election adage that's valid in every sort of election, from national elections to school committee votes: if you didn't vote, don't complain about the result!

When the choices I am forced between are these sh1t filled silk stockings I have every right to complain! Palin is a complaint that could take a whole hour. Even after the election as well because I didn't vote for any of these bastards. Besides, because of the electoral college even if I did vote it would have been wiped away because of my neighbors. It isn't one person one vote here, it's a fking average! I have every right to complain about a system that isn't working.

Just a playful dig in the ribs.

Yeah, it's a funny system that electoral college thing you have....not that I understand it enought to be able to say that it's funny (funny-odd, not funny-haha). Mind you, democracy in any true form, by definition only produces average results (I mean average as in not the best) because it is (or is supposed to be) majority rule.....this means the best minds and best ideas in the country are always over-ruled.

I propose that the best system would borrow from the idea of democracy of the people voting, but restrict the people allowed to vote to only those that are in the 70th (say) percentile in IQ and EQ scores. Obviously the people running for election would have to pass that benchmark too.

Presumably those who weren't allowed to vote wouldn't be obliged to pay any taxes?

Presumably those who weren't allowed to vote wouldn't be obliged to pay any taxes?

Only the stupid would call themselves qualified.

Presumably those who weren't allowed to vote wouldn't be obliged to pay any taxes?

Is eligibility to vote the criterium for tax-paying? Of course they would pay taxes! Maybe they should pay MORE tax because they are being looked after so much better!

Presumably those who weren't allowed to vote wouldn't be obliged to pay any taxes?

Is eligibility to vote the criterium for tax-paying? Of course they would pay taxes! Maybe they should pay MORE tax because they are being looked after so much better!

No taxation without representation?

Presumably those who weren't allowed to vote wouldn't be obliged to pay any taxes?

Is eligibility to vote the criterium for tax-paying? Of course they would pay taxes! Maybe they should pay MORE tax because they are being looked after so much better!

No taxation without representation?

Ahhhhhh. Very good.

But technically, and (hopefully) in reality, the bright representatives would indeed represent the dim. They (the bright reps) would know that it's important to keep the ignorant masses happy and thus they would do whatever prudent measures, thereby "representing" the constituents.

It's all about keeping the ignorant masses happy while doing whatever is best for the country as a whole.

Presumably those who weren't allowed to vote wouldn't be obliged to pay any taxes?

Is eligibility to vote the criterium for tax-paying? Of course they would pay taxes! Maybe they should pay MORE tax because they are being looked after so much better!

No taxation without representation?

Ahhhhhh. Very good.

But technically, and (hopefully) in reality, the bright representatives would indeed represent the dim. They (the bright reps) would know that it's important to keep the ignorant masses happy and thus they would do whatever prudent measures, thereby "representing" the constituents.

It's all about keeping the ignorant masses happy while doing whatever is best for the country as a whole.

No, it's not all about patronising those who finance the government by calling them 'the ignorant masses' and assuming that you're more qualified to spend their money than they are. The 'ignorant masses' ARE the country.

No, it's not all about patronising those who finance the government by calling them 'the ignorant masses' and assuming that you're more qualified to spend their money than they are. The 'ignorant masses' ARE the country.

The ignorant masses, "the great unwashed" ARE a significant part of the country.

The "bright representatives" ARE more qualified, by definition.

Is it patronising if the patronisee is unaware that he's being patronised?

Once anyone has spent a dollar on taxes, that dollar is no longer theirs....sure they have a lien on it, but not ownership.

No, it's not all about patronising those who finance the government by calling them 'the ignorant masses' and assuming that you're more qualified to spend their money than they are. The 'ignorant masses' ARE the country.

The ignorant masses, "the great unwashed" ARE a significant part of the country.

The "bright representatives" ARE more qualified, by definition.

Is it patronising if the patronisee is unaware that he's being patronised?

The 'bright representatives' are more qualified by whose definition? Their own, maybe. When they pay all the bills they can pull all the strings. Until then they ought to be reminded on a regular and vigorous basis just who they work for.

Considering that I'm a member of the 'great unwashed' in the UK and that the 'bright representatives' have spent the last few years screwing us for all we're worth we patronisees are very well aware that we've been patronised. We're also well aware that the 'bright representatives' seem to think that our main function is to finance their indulgences. Well excuse me - if your moat needs cleaning - clean it yourself.

Saving us I am not sure on at all. It seems to me that he is about to get us involved in yet another war in the Middle East with Iran. Anyone here think different?

Saving us I am not sure on at all. It seems to me that he is about to get us involved in yet another war in the Middle East with Iran. Anyone here think different?

i do.

The 'bright representatives' are more qualified by whose definition? Their own, maybe. When they pay all the bills they can pull all the strings. Until then they ought to be reminded on a regular and vigorous basis just who they work for.

Considering that I'm a member of the 'great unwashed' in the UK and that the 'bright representatives' have spent the last few years screwing us for all we're worth we patronisees are very well aware that we've been patronised. We're also well aware that the 'bright representatives' seem to think that our main function is to finance their indulgences. Well excuse me - if your moat needs cleaning - clean it yourself.

Well spoken written, endure. I find it sad whenever people feel that others are more capable of determining their own well-being for them. Least of all self-promoting politicians.