MrWiggle Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Anyone know how to get rid of them. Not into surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackoneilone Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 depends on whether you actually have gynocomastia ie actual male breast tissue OR if its fat. if it is actual breast tissue then surgery is it. If it isnt, then you could surgically remove it, liposuction it or least invasively you could try Phosphatidylcholine (PPC) injections into the area. Phosphatidylcholine (PPC) injections help reduce fat deposits in specific areas. Can be painful, repeat applications needed, long term plan and results not guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 If it is breast tissue what is your estrogen levels? You will need to get a handle on hormonal levels if this is the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comehome Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I just read an article in a swedish newspaper about a moviestar who got breasts from drinking too much Soyamilk. If that is correct perhaps you should avoid as many soyaproducts as possible. The man in the article drank 12 glasses of soyamilk per day. It also says that the soya milk contains something called fyto-ostrogen. The fyto-ostrogen comes from the plants and it reminds the body of the female hormone ostrogen. Here is a link to the article, although it is in swedish: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/klic...ticle6066194.ab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggle Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Yes i drink soi lattes nearly every day. You can tell ostragen levels by doing a pregnancy test right ? I do not know if real breast tissue or fat. How do I tell ? I would presume if real that they would be sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comehome Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Hi Mr Wiggle, here are some links in english with pictures of Mr.Piven from "Entourage" about his male boobs: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/ne...oy-milk-2009311 http://www.wikio.co.uk/news/Jeremy+Piven http://bossip.com/176280/in-white-folks-ne...o-much-soymilk/ take care, /comehome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Pregnancy tests do not measure estrogen levels. And in any case, what isrelevant is not the absolute estrogen level but the ratio of testosterone to estrogen so would need blood tests of both hormone levels. Before getting into that, what is your height and weight? Simply losing weight, if you need to, may resolve this. Also: what is yoyur age, and are you on any medications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackoneilone Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) Yes i drink soi lattes nearly every day.You can tell ostragen levels by doing a pregnancy test right ? I do not know if real breast tissue or fat. How do I tell ? I would presume if real that they would be sensitive. Dont worry about soy products. You would have to consume a bucket load daily and have a skewed hormonal balance in the first place for anything to go that far. Otherwise most of the men in Asia especially China, Japan, Korea should be walking around with man boobs from all the soy products they consume and the females should all be big lol How a person gets man boobs as I said before is to do with 2 factors. 1 simply is being overweight with a high bodyfat content and 2 is hormonal imbalance. As sheryl mentioned estrogen is a man is not a bad thing. Its the balance between testosterone and estrogen thats important and they are interrelated ie an increase eg in testosterone would also cause an increase in estrogen etc. You would need a blood panel testing for some very specific hormones eg testosterone, estrogen, lh etc . Pregnancy kits do not test anything but hCG- a hormone present in pregnant women's pee. so If your overweight and have a high body fat content then it may be simply fat. examine your man boobs, pinch, squeeze them in, feel them and if all you feel is just fat then ur man boobs are a result of being fat. If you examine them and you feel tissue underneath your nipples/man boobs then you have gynocomastia. this would need to be surgically removed. Men can be fat and have gynocomastia so being fat does not necessarily mean you dont actually have gynocomastia. Edited November 7, 2009 by jackoneilone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaParent Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I just read an article in a swedish newspaper about a moviestar who got breasts from drinking too much Soyamilk. IN my case I think it's something in the Thai beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevymac Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 LAY OFF THE CHANGS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Yes i drink soi lattes nearly every day.You can tell ostragen levels by doing a pregnancy test right ? I do not know if real breast tissue or fat. How do I tell ? I would presume if real that they would be sensitive. Mate just go to the gym and work out...take your time and the fat will soon drop off...forget surgery and injections and all this nonsense..even silly diets are a waste of time. For any bloke the best answer is aerobic exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackoneilone Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Mate just go to the gym and work out...take your time and the fat will soon drop off...forget surgeryFor any bloke the best answer is aerobic exercise. lol you could exercise ALL YOU WANT and get ripped and huge but it will never get rid of pre-existing breast tissue. Cue in massive bodybuilders with breast tissue(disregarding hormone abuse etc). If its fat then yes exercise will help you lose it. But if its actual breast tissue then nothing apart from surgery will fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggle Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 If it is breast tissue, is there any chance of 'leaking' ? I had a strange stain on my shirt the other day, both sides, same place. It was a yellowy greeny colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiksilva Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Hmm I'd get to the doctors sharpish mate, that sounds like some form of infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggle Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 Its not infection as it only happened the once and has disappeared now. So I was wondering about milk, I know sounds wierd, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comehome Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Hi Mr Wiggle, Have you had any sort of hormone treatment for training or something like that? Some men take pills for quicker musclegain during some periods of training. Or have you perhaps just become a parent? Some men who is about to become fathers react to the hormonal change that is happening in their wife/girlfriend during pregnancy. I don't believe it is very common but i have read about it. Some men even produce breast milk and sometimes leak just as their pregnant partner can do before giving birth. If you are leaking it sounds like you have developed breasttissue, but i am not an expert. Perhaps you should go and seek advice from a doctor. Hope things work out well for you. Take care now, /comehome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggle Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 Really do not want to go to a doctor, kind of embarrassing. Not to mention do I see a female or a male doctor? And I would not think there is a big base of Thai clientelle here that have this problem, so the likelyhood of a thai male or female doctor having a bit of a giggle over it is even more reason for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbin Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Moobs! Go on a diet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintofsilence Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 you could be on the right track to having your own milk shake shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackoneilone Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) If it is breast tissue, is there any chance of 'leaking' ?I had a strange stain on my shirt the other day, both sides, same place. It was a yellowy greeny colour. Not a chance. EVER sounds like your hormones are out of whack and ur prolactins are probably high and maybe your estrogens too hence breast tissue and milk production. male breast tissue could produce milk or milky like liquid and if it is then hormones especially prolactin is wayyyy out of balance and immediate investigations are necessary. Edited November 10, 2009 by jackoneilone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggle Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 By immediate investigations I guess you mean a doctor right. But what about my concerns above? Has anybody else had this problem? Have you had sensitive nipples? I mean, breasts are breasts, usually they trun me on, or used to. Mine are hairy so they do not turn me on, but the nipples are very sensitive and I have felt the tingle in the nether regions while soaping up in the shower from time to time. What did you do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackoneilone Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 By immediate investigations I guess you mean a doctor right. But what about my concerns above?Has anybody else had this problem? Have you had sensitive nipples? I mean, breasts are breasts, usually they trun me on, or used to. Mine are hairy so they do not turn me on, but the nipples are very sensitive and I have felt the tingle in the nether regions while soaping up in the shower from time to time. What did you do about it? go to a doctor! if all this is true then your problem is serious and requires blood work and treatment. ignore the embarrassment issue. Your health is at stake here. stop posting on here. go to a doctor and get checked out. most likely ull need to be put on meds and possibly hormonal theraphy and to take care of the obviously existing breast tissue surgery would be required. this is all straightforward to treat and surgery is relatively painless as well and done by a pro with no scarring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crypt36 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) What about buy a bicycle, work out, drop the burgers AND the alcohol? Why would you have a guy cut you up when it'll all be back next year?! Edited November 12, 2009 by Crypt36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggle Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Do you mean it can come back again ? Even after surgery ? I have a bike and i tried running on one of those machines but they bounce and become very sore. I have not had an alcoholic drink for 8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Do you have any idea what LB's and BG's would give for those puppies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangeroo Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 well when im fat i have boobs ,when i am not fat i dont have boobs , simple really but i do know people that are on some sort of drug eg heartburn tablets,or other drugs which one needs as we all get older , some of them can cause boobs as well . cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackoneilone Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Do you mean it can come back again ? Even after surgery ?I have a bike and i tried running on one of those machines but they bounce and become very sore. I have not had an alcoholic drink for 8 months. this is not very difficult. go to a doctor who will most likely refer you to a specialist eg endocrinologist certain tests will be run on you and blood panel testing your hormones thyroid etc etc based on the results of those tests and your hormones appropriate medications and or hormones can be given to you to get things back to normal and stable. then you can have surgery and remove the breast tissue. as things are under control, hormones all normal, breast tissue removed nothing will come back. You would be Breast free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud1 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Having recently undergone surgery for this problem maybe I,ve got some experience regarding the subject.Sure some people may get moobs if they are overweight and are able to lose them when dieting.Has in my case the problem stemmed from a estrogen inbalance and although I,ve trained in the gym for a long period in my life,it had little effect on my chest.I had my surgery at Yanhee,where incidently all the surgeons are male.The difference pre and post surgery is amazing.When I think all them years training,wearing baggy t-shirts etc,all it required was a few hours in surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamx Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 spud1, did an endocrinologist diagnose you with an estrogen problem? Was glandular tissue and fat removed? Did you get any skin laxity issues post-op? Did you go under GA? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackoneilone Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Having recently undergone surgery for this problem maybe I,ve got some experience regarding the subject.Sure some people may get moobs if they are overweight and are able to lose them when dieting.Has in my case the problem stemmed from a estrogen inbalance and although I,ve trained in the gym for a long period in my life,it had little effect on my chest.I had my surgery at Yanhee,where incidently all the surgeons are male.The difference pre and post surgery is amazing.When I think all them years training,wearing baggy t-shirts etc,all it required was a few hours in surgery. do you remember the surgeon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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