sassienie Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 In Thailand, most main road signs and city direction signs, plus many shop signs even in the country areas are not only in Thai, but also in English. WHY? I realise that English is supposed to be the second language of Thailand, but I would guess that the majority of Thais cannot speak English and even more are unable to read and write English. Being as English is used for road signs all over the country is a mystery to me. So is there anyone out there that is in the knowledge and can explain why English text is used so widely in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballzafire Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 ...I realise that English is supposed to be the second language of Thailand, but ... And below your username are the words "Intelligent Member"? Seriously, sassienie, what's to question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BboyRusty Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 This could possibly be due to the idea that English is one of the commonly used languages internationaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language. Just ask any airline pilot what language they need to use on the radios, it's English, everywhere. I read that some French pilots sometimes stick to French when in their own country, this practice should be outlawed as other pilots can't understand what's going on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazvisa Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I read that some French pilots sometimes stick to French when in their own country, if thats true then thats pretty funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballzafire Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language.... That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassienie Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 ...I realise that English is supposed to be the second language of Thailand, but ... And below your username are the words "Intelligent Member"? Seriously, sassienie, what's to question? Yes, I do realise that internationally English is most used for communication between international communities, and I can understand this is required in the main city areas, but why in Thailand is English text so widely used including the rural areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballzafire Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 ...I realise that English is supposed to be the second language of Thailand, but ... And below your username are the words "Intelligent Member"? Seriously, sassienie, what's to question? Yes, I do realise that internationally English is most used for communication between international communities, and I can understand this is required in the main city areas, but why in Thailand is English text so widely used including the rural areas? Uh, I dunno, professor. Could someone else answer that one, please? Maybe one of you out there has some insight into sassienie's burning question here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language.... That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot. Yeah sure. So which language is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballzafire Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language.... That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot. Yeah sure. So which language is? There are many cultures that trade amongst themselves without the need to use English. It should be pretty obvious to anyone who's had any schooling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language.... That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot. Yeah sure. So which language is? There are many cultures that trade amongst themselves without the need to use English. It should be pretty obvious to anyone who's had any schooling... Sorry I dropped out at age 10. Obviously we are talking about international trading. There is no doubt whatsoever the standard language for that is English. There is no other language that even comes close. Of course its a big world with many exceptions. An Argentinian trading with a Spaniard would likely use Spanish. I see the globalization of English everyday here in Pattaya. Observe the German speaking bad English chatting with his new Thai friend, also in bad English. It warms the heart. Edited November 21, 2009 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) as thai script is used only in one country, it's good that an international language is used as well. Even if in the rural areas there are not many foreigners, but still those signs are encouraging tourists to venture further from the bitten track and explore the whole country. as to english language reading skills - they are greater than speaking, that's why there are so many shops with english signs Edited November 21, 2009 by londonthai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrakers Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Simple answer: = Why not. The signs have to be made anyway whether they have English or not and so I suspect that the extra cost is negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 don't forget Thailand is near China and Vietnam. In Germany, all roads also have US military / NATO signs which regulate traffic, defining on which lanes tanks should drive, etc. I am sure road signs in english are very helpful to western forces in case of a conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophon Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Everyone is referring to it as "English texts" but in reality it is not but rather transliterated Thai. If it were English the sign would say "Khao San Road" not "Thanon Khao San". I don't know why the road signs also have the names in western script, I'm just happy they do . Sophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballzafire Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 don't forget Thailand is near China and Vietnam. In Germany, all roads also have US military / NATO signs which regulate traffic, defining on which lanes tanks should drive, etc. I am sure road signs in english are very helpful to western forces in case of a conflict. Nah. They'd rely on GPS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Those signs don't have English words on them, only Romanised Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilokarat Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 don't forget Thailand is near China and Vietnam. Yes...so...Thailand is also near Laos, Burma, Cambodia and Malaysia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyh Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Imagine the threads on TV whinging about road signs if they where only in Thai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I see the globalization of English everyday here in Pattaya. Observe the German speaking bad English chatting with his new Thai friend, also in bad English. It warms the heart. That's right, of course I was referring to international trade. Once I sat waiting at a border crossing in a place called 'Rafah', the wait was several hours while a convoy built up prior to a long trip across the wastelands of Egypt and onto Cairo. I remember talking to lots of people from different countries all around the world as the hours passed by. They all spoke English with varying degrees of skill. Being a typical lazy Brit of course I only speak English which is all I needed. It is a strange sight to see people from lots of different countries talking to each other in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I remember driving through a little place called Wales. If they didn't have English on the road signs as well as the local language I would never have found my way out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydillon Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I am ever so glad that the second language in Thailand is English,and NOT French or German Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maejo Man Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Imagine the threads on TV whinging about road signs if they where only in Thai! When I first came here, ALL the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maejo Man Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Imagine the threads on TV whinging about road signs if they where only in Thai! When I first came here, ALL road signs were in Thai, there was no English. It was a case of learn to read Thai, or stay lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 The most common 2nd language is English for now. The next generation might learn Chinese instead. Good luck learning to read that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language.... That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot. Yeah sure. So which language is? There are many cultures that trade amongst themselves without the need to use English. It should be pretty obvious to anyone who's had any schooling... Well you obviously haven't as you're talking complete <deleted>... cultures trading among themselves isn't international now is it. English is the business language. Anyone with an ounce of grey matter would know that... those folks from Brazil buying stock from China certainly aren't speaking Portuguese/Spanish/French/German/Swahili or, god forbid, Welsh. Stroll on. Anyway, as someone else mentioned, the signs are simply transliterated into the Roman alphabet as it's the most widely used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallForeigner Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) Sorry I dropped out at age 10. Obviously we are talking about international trading. There is no doubt whatsoever the standard language for that is English. There is no other language that even comes close. Of course its a big world with many exceptions. An Argentinian trading with a Spaniard would likely use Spanish.I see the globalization of English everyday here in Pattaya. Observe the German speaking bad English chatting with his new Thai friend, also in bad English. It warms the heart. To the English-language chauvinists here: English is definitely NOT the "standard language for international trading" or international language. I might agree if one says bad English or broken English might be the international language. Edited November 22, 2009 by TallForeigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbin Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 The most common 2nd language is English for now. The next generation might learn Chinese instead. Good luck learning to read that. It seems logical to say that Chinese will become the next lingua franca, but it will never happen. That is because the Chinese ideograms are a major stumbling block. Unless you live in the culture that uses them, it is a major undertaking to learn the thousands of characters needed to become literate. I studied Japanese for several years and while reasonably proficient in the spoken language, I had only managed to memorize about 500 of the Japanese ideograms (Kanji). In order to read a newspaper, you must know approximately 4000+ Kanji! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caf Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Spanish is the most widely spoken language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybankruad Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 This happens all over the world, English is the worldwide trading language.... That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not true by a long-shot. Not only done so that English speakers can understand. The Roman alphabet is used by the majority of the world, you don't see French or Spanish speakers writing in arabic do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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