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[LindsayBKK]

Democrats handing out 100,000 stickers opposing the red shirts

The Democrats have started on Wednesday to distribute 100,000 stickers to say no to the dissolution of Parliament, seen as an act of defiance to the demanded of the red shirts.

The campaign to counter the red shirts is spearheaded by three MPs, Boonyod Sukthinthai, Watchara Phetthong and Pojanat Kaewpaluek.

The Nation

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[londonthai]

revolution won't be televised, or facebooked - political situation can't be measured by subscribers on some website, because it doesn't carry any obligation. I have seen much larger facebook accounts, with not much meaning to them.

yesterday yellows get only 200 on the victory monument, today some few thousands, but the scale and lenght is no comparison to the reds. The sympathy shifted further to the reds after the black saturday, more reds came to town and can be expected after songran, the next week.

the majority of thais don't have net, especially in the rural areas, and very few of those with net do go on facebook regularly.

at the same time coalition, army and cops are devided

[Huey]

Cool I think I joined when it was just like 30 or 40,000.

[britmaveric]

Quite imagine many duplicate accounts signing up....

[grandpops]

Quite imagine many duplicate accounts signing up....

Like the poll on here where 1000 voted but only 50 commented!!

They can have a vote at the election so whats their beef if they think they are so many?

I refer to my Dwayne Dibble post yesterday, they are nerds.

[asiancup2007]

Call an election much more democratic than facebook and blood need not be spilt.

[Huey]

National integrity and democracy is worth the Blood, asiancup, Show me one democracy that has not paid the blood price. I hope the military stands up for the country and lays taxsins red shirts to waste. I don't want this great country turning into Cambodia.

[mccw]

National integrity and democracy is worth the Blood, asiancup, Show me one democracy that has not paid the blood price. I hope the military stands up for the country and lays taxsins red shirts to waste. I don't want this great country turning into Cambodia.

i'll second that

[Jingthing]

Thailand needs a new election right now like a female elephant needs a jockstrap.

[TallForeigner]

Wow! Another topic that lures the frustrated, bloodthirsty farangs out of their corners. What have the Thai people done to you that you are so keen to see hordes of them being slaughtered?

[473geo]

Thailand needs a new election right now like a female elephant needs a jockstrap.

An election now, with Abhisit correctly and properly installed would surely be a sound footing for the future?

Are you so concerned that the result may not favour Abhisit? and thus not prepared to grant the will of the people?

You are meeting yourself at the door!!

[mccw]

Thailand needs a new election right now like a female elephant needs a jockstrap.

An election now, with Abhisit correctly and properly installed would surely be a sound footing for the future?

Are you so concerned that the result may not favour Abhisit? and thus not prepared to grant the will of the people?

You are meeting yourself at the door!!

if full term served and policies like free education and pensions can be given time to b felt by the poor and reds to b beneficial then they might stop to belive the red propaganda that gov is their enemy and actualy doing more to help them than the greedy red ellite who just want to keep poor poor as thier rice farming political slaves.

Resobable to compomise though for the sake of peace and meet half way ar end of the year; give everyone time to cool down and lay out their policies.

what are the red policy if they actualy got in to gov??

Definitely should not let a democratic government fall because of violent street protests. An example should b made so its clear that descussion is the only way to achieve political ends, otherwise thailand would decend in to an un ending spiral of political violence which could easily escalate to a point where the streets were unsafe to walk and the economy collapse, everything worse for everyone rich and poor.

[473geo]

Thailand needs a new election right now like a female elephant needs a jockstrap.

An election now, with Abhisit correctly and properly installed would surely be a sound footing for the future?

Are you so concerned that the result may not favour Abhisit? and thus not prepared to grant the will of the people?

You are meeting yourself at the door!!

if full term served and policies like free education and pensions can be given time to b felt by the poor and reds to b beneficial then they might stop to belive the red propaganda that gov is their enemy and actualy doing more to help them than the greedy red ellite who just want to keep poor poor as thier rice farming political slaves.

Resobable to compomise though for the sake of peace and meet half way ar end of the year; give everyone time to cool down and lay out their policies.

what are the red policy if they actualy got in to gov??

Definitely should not let a democratic government fall because of violent street protests. An example should b made so its clear that descussion is the only way to achieve political ends, otherwise thailand would decend in to an un ending spiral of political violence which could easily escalate to a point where the streets were unsafe to walk and the economy collapse, everything worse for everyone rich and poor.

And your valid comments above are fine when the country has confidence in the goverment, and the values of that government. Abhisit should be pounding the people with the reforms already implemented? Highlighting the realistic proposals for the future, and highlight exactly in no uncertain terms the benefits which the people will certainly receive, if, he is left to do the job. I'm sorry but for myself (and perhaps many of the Thai people) stating he needs to stay in power to allocate the defence budget does not cut it. Prove yourself Abhisit - recognise the need for the uncertainty to be removed - stop the bloodshed -and go to the democratic polls with confidence that you will achieve more equality for the masses, elevate their standard of living, continue to subsidise rural housing build, and move Thailand into the world economy as a consistent major player........call an election and spell it out in your speeches/manifesto do this with passion....

Reds manifesto - well you have reiterated my point.

[davethailand]

Just joined.

[GuestHouse]

Quite imagine many duplicate accounts signing up....

So when you see something you don't want to see you let your imagination tell you otherwise.

[Vindie]

National integrity and democracy is worth the Blood, asiancup, Show me one democracy that has not paid the blood price. I hope the military stands up for the country and lays taxsins red shirts to waste. I don't want this great country turning into Cambodia.

i'll second that

Hear! Hear! Let's do this right and turn into Myanmar. Let the military continue to dictate the democratic process. Brilliant!

[473geo]

Just joined.

Oh dear can't recognise unbiased advice - reds want an election - I support that - which side have I joined.....I have just advised Abhisit what I would do in his situation - which side have I joined?...........

And pray do further advertise your intellectual awareness by forwarding an alternative choice for the Democrats - apart from the impending self destuctive,totally futile history and martyr making blood bath that appears to be the prolonged and multi-stated wish of some on this forum.

[GuestHouse]

Over seven thousand more members in less than an hour.

Already more than three times the size of Thaivisa - all those Thai people with..... shock horror..... an opinion.

Their opinion of course matters, unlike the opinion of any Farang on here - Excepting of course those who are more Thai than the rest of us.

[davethailand]

Just joined.

Oh dear can't recognise unbiased advice - reds want an election - I support that - which side have I joined.....I have just advised Abhisit what I would do in his situation - which side have I joined?...........

And pray do further advertise your intellectual awareness by forwarding an alternative choice for the Democrats - apart from the impending self destuctive,totally futile history and martyr making blood bath that appears to be the prolonged and multi-stated wish of some on this forum.

I didn't ask for your opinion.

[Jingthing]

Over seven thousand more members in less than an hour.

Already more than three times the size of Thaivisa - all those Thai people with..... shock horror..... an opinion.

Their opinion of course matters, unlike the opinion of any Farang on here - Excepting of course those who are more Thai than the rest of us.

As Thailand may be on the verge of civil war, foreigner opinion (expats here and internationally) may actually start to matter more than before. Whenever this happens, the world watches, sometimes most of the world is neutral, and sometimes they take sides. Thaksin has clearly been trying to sell his version (this is about "freedom and democracy") to the non-Thai world for a very long time now. He has also tried to sell the idea that the current Thai government is equivalent to Burma. The world hasn't bought this as yet, with Burma being a pariah state to most of the world, the Abhisit government is accepted as legitimate internationally.

The world's eyes are now on Thailand more than in a very long time. Certainly now even much more than during the airport shutdown.

[GuestHouse]

If Thailand is indeed on the verge of a civil war then a more prudent course of action for foreigners living here might be to keep their heads down.

[473geo]

Over seven thousand more members in less than an hour.

Already more than three times the size of Thaivisa - all those Thai people with..... shock horror..... an opinion.

Their opinion of course matters, unlike the opinion of any Farang on here - Excepting of course those who are more Thai than the rest of us.

As Thailand may be on the verge of civil war, foreigner opinion (expats here and internationally) may actually start to matter more than before. Whenever this happens, the world watches, sometimes most of the world is neutral, and sometimes they take sides. Thaksin has clearly been trying to sell his version (this is about "freedom and democracy") to the non-Thai world for a very long time now. He has also tried to sell the idea that the current Thai government is equivalent to Burma. The world hasn't bought this as yet, with Burma being a pariah state to most of the world, the Abhisit government is accepted as legitimate internationally.

The world's eyes are now on Thailand more than in a very long time. Certainly now even much more than during the airport shutdown.

Of course the eyes of the world are on Thailand - it's called opportunism!!

[davethailand]

If Thailand is indeed on the verge of a civil war then a more prudent course of action for foreigners living here might be to keep their heads down.

Agreed.

[Jingthing]

If Thailand is indeed on the verge of a civil war then a more prudent course of action for foreigners living here might be to keep their heads down.

We would likely get evacuated in such a scenario of a full scale civil war. The reality is foreigner self interest has become important in this conflict. It has become very serious indeed. It is not only Thai lives that may be seriously impacted by this, but the lives of everyone living in Thailand.

[GuestHouse]

Foreigner self interest - what's that?

Availability of easily had visas and the price of beer?

Of course signing up to support either side might change the self interest issues if you happen to have signed up for the side that looses.

[Jingthing]

Foreigner self interest - what's that?

Availability of easily had visas and the price of beer?

Of course signing up to support either side might change the self interest issues if you happen to have signed up for the side that looses.

A country in full civil war will not be inhabitable for almost any expats. That's what I mean. Also recall there was a rumor posted here (that may be widespread among the red masses, but not sure) that ALL foreigners would be evicted within 30 days if the reds win. That kind of major league self interest. Nothing to do with price of beer, that's insulting. I am not saying that rumor would be carried out or not, but I am saying foreigners here now have a significant self interest in how this turns out, and legitimately so.

[mccw]

Thailand needs a new election right now like a female elephant needs a jockstrap.

An election now, with Abhisit correctly and properly installed would surely be a sound footing for the future?

Are you so concerned that the result may not favour Abhisit? and thus not prepared to grant the will of the people?

You are meeting yourself at the door!!

if full term served and policies like free education and pensions can be given time to b felt by the poor and reds to b beneficial then they might stop to belive the red propaganda that gov is their enemy and actualy doing more to help them than the greedy red ellite who just want to keep poor poor as thier rice farming political slaves.

Resobable to compomise though for the sake of peace and meet half way ar end of the year; give everyone time to cool down and lay out their policies.

what are the red policy if they actualy got in to gov??

Definitely should not let a democratic government fall because of violent street protests. An example should b made so its clear that descussion is the only way to achieve political ends, otherwise thailand would decend in to an un ending spiral of political violence which could easily escalate to a point where the streets were unsafe to walk and the economy collapse, everything worse for everyone rich and poor.

And your valid comments above are fine when the country has confidence in the goverment, and the values of that government. Abhisit should be pounding the people with the reforms already implemented? Highlighting the realistic proposals for the future, and highlight exactly in no uncertain terms the benefits which the people will certainly receive, if, he is left to do the job. I'm sorry but for myself (and perhaps many of the Thai people) stating he needs to stay in power to allocate the defence budget does not cut it. Prove yourself Abhisit - recognise the need for the uncertainty to be removed - stop the bloodshed -and go to the democratic polls with confidence that you will achieve more equality for the masses, elevate their standard of living, continue to subsidise rural housing build, and move Thailand into the world economy as a consistent major player........call an election and spell it out in your speeches/manifesto do this with passion....

Reds manifesto - well you have reiterated my point.

I think he does state his policies and points in his speeches in thai and the otherweek at the writers club in english. Problem is red media just report <deleted> and mostly all the reds dont listen to any other media sources. Maybe now they have to watch normal news they'll state to see a more ballanced picture.

Also when other parties are intimidated or out right killed, arnt allowed to canvas to get their points across, its not possable to have a fair ellection. The red fiefdoms and millitia need to be broken up first and a level playing field created. House searches nationwide and arrests of anyone in possission of illegal weapons. Have ellection monitors from overseas so biased cant be claimed and ban and jail anyone evidenced to be buying votes.

Most of the nation probably just want peace and everyone to chill out so economy and normal life can keep turning. Its only a minority on both sides who make trouble for the nation as a whole. Although i do think that Thaksin was becoming a real danger to be president for life, rigging ellections, killing decenters with out trail, killing thousands in the drugs war and making everything worse in the south, ripping the country off for billions; its a good thing the army kicked him out. its also a good thing that now the poor cant be ignored. If thailand can come through this period without decending in to caos and maintain order, making it clear that politics not protest is the way, then the poor will better off, development continue and everything could b said to been for the best, maybe not for the best but atleast played its part in creating a fairer more prosporus thailand; but if the reds are given in to now i fear everything could go the opposite way, spiral of violence and destruction, reds right now are a danger to the very future of the nation

[mccw]

National integrity and democracy is worth the Blood, asiancup, Show me one democracy that has not paid the blood price. I hope the military stands up for the country and lays taxsins red shirts to waste. I don't want this great country turning into Cambodia.

i'll second that

Hear! Hear! Let's do this right and turn into Myanmar. Let the military continue to dictate the democratic process. Brilliant!

if reds win what you fear is what will happen

[GuestHouse]

Jingjing, believe me, the price of beer is far more of self interest than every one of the latest rumors.

My contribution to the current troubles is going to remain as it is - Go to work, do my job, pay my taxes, obey the law and live my own quiet life.

Any foreigner who gets involved in this mess needs his head testing and probably deserves being deported - if only to be able to get proper treatment back home.

[Jingthing]

Jingjing, believe me, the price of beer is far more of self interest than every one of the latest rumors.

My contribution to the current troubles is going to remain as it is - Go to work, do my job, pay my taxes, obey the law and live my own quiet life.

Any foreigner who gets involved in this mess needs his head testing and probably deserves being deported - if only to be able to get proper treatment back home.

I think you are saying that you actually think you will be "safe" here no matter what happens because you are a "good farang". My point is if it all goes south, ALL foreigners will be seriously impacted. History shows this in many countries. Of course I agree, stay away from physical areas of conflict. Hopefully, this can be partially solved or at least temporarily contained without it becoming a full scale national civil war.