Thaksin: Don't Name Pheu Thai Candidate Yet

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PHEU THAI PARTY

Don't name candidate yet: Thaksin

By Naya Jittanon

The Nation

Thaksin Shinawatra, patriarch of the Pheu Thai Party, told opposition MPs yesterday to wait until the House of Representatives is dissolved before unveiling its candidate for the next prime minister.

The former premier, who fled abroad to avoid jail after being convicted of a conflict of interest, told a meeting of Pheu Thai MPs via a video link from an unspecified location overseas that he felt the party had six candidates who would make a suitable PM.

"In the current situation, we should not introduce our candidate to become prime minister in order to prevent that person from becoming the target of [political] attacks. We should wait until the House is dissolved," Thaksin was quoted by a source as saying.

Thaksin gave his video-link talk to more than 30 Pheu Thai MPs late yesterday afternoon. The session lasted almost an hour.

During the session, some MPs asked about rumours he had health problems. He reportedly said the rumours were groundless and insisted he was still healthy. "Now I want to return to Thailand because I miss home a lot," he was quoted as saying.

He told the MPs they could phone him if they had any problems.

Thaksin said he was devising a policy platform for Pheu Thai to be used during its campaign ahead of the next general election. He said the focus would be on creating income for people and solving economic problems.

He expressed hope Pheu Thai would win the election and make its return to government - and urged party MPs to be patient.

"Don't believe the rumour that I will allow 50 [Pheu Thai] MPs to join the government. I definitely won't do that," he was reported saying.

Earlier, Pheu Thai MPs from different regions held meetings separately to discuss the political situation. They believed that if the ruling Democrat Party was dissolved by a court order next month, an early general election would be inevitable.

It was agreed that Pheu Thai would come up with candidates to be PM and Thaksin would choose who would be the party candidate.

-- The Nation 2010-10-13

[Buchholz]

The equation rolls on

Thaksin = Pheu Thai Party = Red Shirts

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

Edited October 12, 2010 by Buchholz

[mausplan]

Jatuporn is the ambitious one

[rheinwiese]

The equation rolls on

Thaksin = Pheu Thai Party = Red Shirts

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

My money is on Chalerm.

God help us.

[TallForeigner]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

[lannarebirth]

So what's the latest on the convicted fugitive with the 5 year ban from involvement in Thai politics?

"Don't believe the rumour that I will allow 50 [Pheu Thai] MPs to join the government. I definitely won't do that," he was reported saying.

Ah, I see.

[Buchholz]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

Who are these "very capable" PTP candidates? Are they viable options within the PTP; in other words, what is the likelihood that these other candidates would be selected by Thaksin AKA The Pheu Thai Party Patriarch.

And yes, I think it does matter.

[ianf]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

Utter nonsense. Speaking out of your bottom!

[OzMick]

If Thailand had a RICO style law, IMHO this whole mongrel mob could be charged as a criminal conspiracy.

1st you would have to find BIB who could break a life-time habit of coprophagia ( the closest word I could think of, and get away with, to describe the relationship between BIB and politicians.) Ms Wasa is a prime example - "Oh, sure I will come in and answer some questions, next Friday suits me". Try that in oz, or most other countries for that matter. Plenty of time for the un-named businessman to fake a few invoices.

[OzMick]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

DO go on! I would love to read your list. Wisut sounds like a candidate for higher office, doesn't he? Mr Chalerm has the added attraction of very capable sons to assist him; has to be a front runner. Jatuporn has a small veracity problem (he lies like a pig in mud), not to mention a terrorism charge yet to face, but they could hear the case while govt is in session and execute him when it breaks.

[craigt3365]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

Surely you jest...the problem with Abhist is the current situation...not necessarily the man. If the reds would stop being so destructive, he could achieve something good.

[OzMick]

""Don't believe the rumour that I will allow 50 [Pheu Thai] MPs to join the government. I definitely won't do that," he was reported saying"

Can someone please explain this to me? If 50 PTT candidates are elected (highly unlikely), a convicted criminal hiding off-shore won't allow them to join the govt. He won't allow them to try for a majority? What should they do, defect to the Democrats?

[rubl]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

Maybe yes, maybe no, but the choice seems k. Thaksin's choice rather than the peoples choice. Big difference !

[rubl]

""Don't believe the rumour that I will allow 50 [Pheu Thai] MPs to join the government. I definitely won't do that," he was reported saying"

Can someone please explain this to me? If 50 PTT candidates are elected (highly unlikely), a convicted criminal hiding off-shore won't allow them to join the govt. He won't allow them to try for a majority? What should they do, defect to the Democrats?

You beat me to it. I'm also wondering about this prime example of democracy in action.

[Phuket Stan]

""Don't believe the rumour that I will allow 50 [Pheu Thai] MPs to join the government. I definitely won't do that," he was reported saying"

Can someone please explain this to me? If 50 PTT candidates are elected (highly unlikely), a convicted criminal hiding off-shore won't allow them to join the govt. He won't allow them to try for a majority? What should they do, defect to the Democrats?

You beat me to it. I'm also wondering about this prime example of democracy in action.

Democracy....for heavens sake man...dont you know Takki has no idea what that means

[rubl]

""Don't believe the rumour that I will allow 50 [Pheu Thai] MPs to join the government. I definitely won't do that," he was reported saying"

Can someone please explain this to me? If 50 PTT candidates are elected (highly unlikely), a convicted criminal hiding off-shore won't allow them to join the govt. He won't allow them to try for a majority? What should they do, defect to the Democrats?

You beat me to it. I'm also wondering about this prime example of democracy in action.

Democracy....for heavens sake man...dont you know Takki has no idea what that means

No offense, but may be you should read up on sarcasm, or maybe even irony.

[Buchholz]

The other paper reports that there have been 6 MP's from PTP that have submitted their applications to The Pheu Thai Party Patriarch for the position of PM.

The Patriarch has said that the employment position is still open until Parliament is dissolved and asked for others to submit their job applications as well.

[scorecard]

The other paper reports that there have been 6 MP's from PTP that have submitted their applications to The Pheu Thai Party Patriarch for the position of PM.

The Patriarch has said that the employment position is still open until Parliament is dissolved and asked for others to submit their job applications as well.

Perhaps he wants it left open because the candidate is himself?

Perhaps he still believes that sometime soon he will return to Thailand?

[Phuket Stan]

""Don't believe the rumour that I will allow 50 [Pheu Thai] MPs to join the government. I definitely won't do that," he was reported saying"

Can someone please explain this to me? If 50 PTT candidates are elected (highly unlikely), a convicted criminal hiding off-shore won't allow them to join the govt. He won't allow them to try for a majority? What should they do, defect to the Democrats?

You beat me to it. I'm also wondering about this prime example of democracy in action.

Democracy....for heavens sake man...dont you know Takki has no idea what that means

No offense, but may be you should read up on sarcasm, or maybe even irony.

It was some of each....I thought a constant poster like you could sort the wheat from the chaff

[Pi Sek]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

Absolute rubbish!

I realise you post nonsense, I don't know why; but in the interests of your own credibility, I suggest you don't post such utter garbage in future. I know that Abhisit is a murderer because he granted permission for troops to shoot back if terrorists were shooting at them, but Chalerm...? What??? He's the worst example of a man I can think of in the current political scene, barring Jatuporn and of course Thaksin. Chalerm is even worse than Suthep, and Chavalit suffers from senility, he has no idea where he is much of the time!

I'm sure PTP have some proper candidates - but I can't think of any.

[Buchholz]

The other paper reports that there have been 6 MP's from PTP that have submitted their applications to The Pheu Thai Party Patriarch for the position of PM.

The Patriarch has said that the employment position is still open until Parliament is dissolved and asked for others to submit their job applications as well.

Perhaps he wants it left open because the candidate is himself?

Perhaps he still believes that sometime soon he will return to Thailand?

Well, he did say that he misses Thailand very much and is homesick.

Regarding the job application process, in a truly employer/employee style of doing business, the former "CEO" also did not reveal who the 6 MP's were so as to not create conflict within the company... errrr, I mean the Party.

He still remembers back to days when he ran the country as if it were a business company.

[chantorn]

"wait until the House of Representatives is dissolved before ..."

It could be a long wait. A very long wait.

[random]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

Absolute rubbish!

I realise you post nonsense, I don't know why; but in the interests of your own credibility, I suggest you don't post such utter garbage in future. I know that Abhisit is a murderer because he granted permission for troops to shoot back if terrorists were shooting at them, but Chalerm...? What??? He's the worst example of a man I can think of in the current political scene, barring Jatuporn and of course Thaksin. Chalerm is even worse than Suthep, and Chavalit suffers from senility, he has no idea where he is much of the time!

I'm sure PTP have some proper candidates - but I can't think of any.

Yeah them cameramen were armed to the teeth

Abhist had the chance to call an election and put it to the people, but he declined because he knew then, as he knows now, his party will not win the election so he is clinging on to his ill gotten power for as long as he can, Hopefully the courts will do us all a favour and disband the dems and ban this charlatan from politics for 5 years, and then the next government can do a proper investigation into the murders and hopefully the charlatan and his buddied will be facing criminal charges, and the poetic justice will be for him to sit on remand for many years waiting trial with no parliamentary privilege to get him off the hook.

Poor Sod, from civillian army mouthpiece to scapegoat in a matter of a few years, sometimes I pity him, but then I remember the UNARMED people murdered on his orders (not the armed ones, they deserved to be shot)

[otherstuff1957]

If the PT win a majority in the next election or if they can put together a coalition, then Thaksin will be choosing, not just the next party leader, but the next PM. This will be a problem for him, as he simply cannot afford to put a strong, capable leader into that position.

If the next PT PM is a strong leader with his or her own popular backing and they do a decent job of running the country, then Thaksin runs the risk of becoming irrelevant. Therefor, any leader that he selects will have to be weak or controllable. Take a look at the PT leaders to date: Samak had a history clouded with violence and corruption and had pending legal issues. Somchai was a yes-man with no political ambitions of his own. Yongyuth is one of the quietest and most passive politicians on the scene today.

Based on these requirements, the next PT leader will be someone problems in the past which will keep them from becoming too popular, like Chalerm or Chavalit or else a non-entity like Yongyuth or Somchai.

[Insight]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

Absolute rubbish!

I realise you post nonsense, I don't know why; but in the interests of your own credibility, I suggest you don't post such utter garbage in future. I know that Abhisit is a murderer because he granted permission for troops to shoot back if terrorists were shooting at them, but Chalerm...? What??? He's the worst example of a man I can think of in the current political scene, barring Jatuporn and of course Thaksin. Chalerm is even worse than Suthep, and Chavalit suffers from senility, he has no idea where he is much of the time!

I'm sure PTP have some proper candidates - but I can't think of any.

Yeah them cameramen were armed to the teeth

Abhist had the chance to call an election and put it to the people, but he declined because he knew then, as he knows now, his party will not win the election so he is clinging on to his ill gotten power for as long as he can, Hopefully the courts will do us all a favour and disband the dems and ban this charlatan from politics for 5 years, and then the next government can do a proper investigation into the murders and hopefully the charlatan and his buddied will be facing criminal charges, and the poetic justice will be for him to sit on remand for many years waiting trial with no parliamentary privilege to get him off the hook.

Poor Sod, from civillian army mouthpiece to scapegoat in a matter of a few years, sometimes I pity him, but then I remember the UNARMED people murdered on his orders (not the armed ones, they deserved to be shot)

What about the unarmed protesters amongst the armed protesters?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY7OafG9Src

[hammered]

If a leader is announced now it will upset a bunch of MPs who will likely defect. If announcing the leader occurs after a disolution there will not be time to leave and join another party before the election. He is trying to minimize defections, which with the wrong choice of leader would make electoral defeat for PTP a certainty. They cant afford to lose any more faction leaders who guarantee a bunch of seats in upcountry constutencies. Real politik.

Anyone who thinks PTP and team red are in any way not linked to Thaksin is going to be a bit disillusioned at their mis analysis.

As to choices, they dont have any good ones: Chalerm, Jatuporn and Chavalit are all discredited (in different ways) jokes while Mingkwan (happily trying to buy MPs loyalty right now) while power hungry has proven to be utterly inept in any position so far. Wifey would be the best choice but unlikely

[Pi Sek]

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

There are many more very capable people at Pheu Thai. But in the end does it really matter? Anyone of these people is a better choice than the present PM.

Absolute rubbish!

I realise you post nonsense, I don't know why; but in the interests of your own credibility, I suggest you don't post such utter garbage in future. I know that Abhisit is a murderer because he granted permission for troops to shoot back if terrorists were shooting at them, but Chalerm...? What??? He's the worst example of a man I can think of in the current political scene, barring Jatuporn and of course Thaksin. Chalerm is even worse than Suthep, and Chavalit suffers from senility, he has no idea where he is much of the time!

I'm sure PTP have some proper candidates - but I can't think of any.

Yeah them cameramen were armed to the teeth

Abhist had the chance to call an election and put it to the people, but he declined because he knew then, as he knows now, his party will not win the election so he is clinging on to his ill gotten power for as long as he can, Hopefully the courts will do us all a favour and disband the dems and ban this charlatan from politics for 5 years, and then the next government can do a proper investigation into the murders and hopefully the charlatan and his buddied will be facing criminal charges, and the poetic justice will be for him to sit on remand for many years waiting trial with no parliamentary privilege to get him off the hook.

Poor Sod, from civillian army mouthpiece to scapegoat in a matter of a few years, sometimes I pity him, but then I remember the UNARMED people murdered on his orders (not the armed ones, they deserved to be shot)

"random" is another head-in-the-sand who doesn't like replying when the content of his posts get destroyed by evidence. I won't lower myself to answering his post because (s)he doesn't deserve it... actually, dang it, I will shut you up yet again.

1. Abhist had the chance to call an election and put it to the people, but he declined because he knew then, ...

NO, STOP LIEING. You know full well how this transpired, you've had it explained to you enough times. Abhisit offered an election, the red shirts didn't take it.

2. as he knows now, his party will not win the election so he is clinging on to his ill gotten power for as long as he can, ...

Given the Democrats are ahead in the latest polls, this is a statement that makes you look stupid. Are you actually stupid or are you being paid to look stupid?

3. ...and then the next government can do a proper investigation into the murders and hopefully the charlatan and his buddied will be facing criminal charges...

Do you have inside information of the current investigation? Why not wait until the results of that before chastising it as not "proper". Unless you already know what they will show (guilty conscience?).

4. sometimes I pity him, but then I remember the UNARMED people murdered on his orders (not the armed ones, they deserved to be shot)

ANOTHER LIE! STOP LIEING! Abhisit ordered the army to shoot those shooting at them, and far too late for most peoples' liking! IF (debatable IF as well) the army shot any unarmed protesters, or news cameramen or whatever, it's because they were hanging around the area where bullets/M79s were being shot from. But the odds are that the UDD shot their own in most cases - I guess we'll find out in a couple of months.

[hoaker]

Next PM is prioritized based on most corrupted. Create income for people and solve economic problems, yeah right. He forgot to say increase my income and solve my economic losses by appointing his MP at finance ministry to transfer his assets back

[givenall]

The equation rolls on

Thaksin = Pheu Thai Party = Red Shirts

Who are the possible PTP candidates for PM?

Chalerm? Chavalit?

My money is on Chalerm.

God help us.

More importantly is Thaksin’s money

[siampolee]

I was under the impression as I am sure many of us were (I use the past tense were ) that Thaksin had actually stated publicly he was finished with politics and wished to return to Thailand as a private citizen and lead a non political life.

Now where is this blasted ventriloquist who keeps acting as if he or her is actually Thaksin?

Surely there is not a fake Thaksin clone that has been planted by the current government that keeps making conflicting statements is there ?

A bottle of beer, bread and butter,

A Gottle o geer, gread and gutter, try saying those correctly with out moving your lips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbMsU-OXn_I

SUB TITLE , Which one is Thaksin ?