Tiger Woods Keen To Give Back To Thailand

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Tiger Woods keen to give back to Thailand

Tiger Woods says he's looking forward to giving something back to Thailand when he makes quick visit to his mother's home country for 1st time in 10 years to play one-day skins tournament on Nov 8

-- TNA 2010-10-28

[TAWP]

I know a lot of girls he can give back to...is he going to be visiting Spasso or QBar?

[princejohnjay]

...and Thailand keen to bringing Tiger Woods to Thailand after he refused a Thai citizenship.

[NaiharnGym]

um he is being paid to appear so I d be keen to be here too.

[pgangeles]

...and Thailand keen to bringing Tiger Woods to Thailand after he refused a Thai citizenship.

He's an American citizen, why would he give that up. As I understand it, you cannot have dual citizenship in Thailand.

I could be wrong. If that's the case, would you suggest he drop his American citizenship?

[TAWP]

You can have dual.

[jayjay0]

Not sitting on top of the golf world so he can be keen to give back. More like looking for people to remember him..

[sendbaht]

"He's an American citizen, why would he give that up. As I understand it, you cannot have dual citizenship in Thailand.

I could be wrong. If that's the case, would you suggest he drop his American"

Yes you may have dual. I know 2 folks who do.

They check into Thailand using the Thai passport, when leaving Thailand for the USA they use both the Thai and the American passport.

Checking in and out of the USA they only use the American passport.

[seaeagle]

You can have dual.

I'm still open to be told I'm wrong, but I thought that "officially", you should choose one or the other at age 20? ie up to 20, they'd allow a person to have dual, but after 20, you make your choice.

(Clearly, I do know that's it's not actively enforced.)

[floridaguy]

You can have dual.

I'm still open to be told I'm wrong, but I thought that "officially", you should choose one or the other at age 20? ie up to 20, they'd allow a person to have dual, but after 20, you make your choice.

(Clearly, I do know that's it's not actively enforced.)

It is not enforced. I keep both American and Thai passports, show both at immigration. They hassle me, but only because my Thai passport doesn't have a departure stamp from the US when arriving in BKK.

[yesdavy]

Not sitting on top of the golf world so he can be keen to give back. More like looking for people to remember him..

Keen to give back??? Give back what?? Appearance fees at his level are $1-1.5 million. Again, give back what??

[Soi Sauce]

"Give back?"

More like take something from about the only country which cares about golf but doesn't know what he's truly like.

His image is destroyed, his marketing gone to hel_l, but Thailand, which knows nothing about what goes on outside its borders still loves him.

He's got nothing left so he'll, cynically milk the lat dollar he can.

But He Thai, He Rich Man, He OK.

[onnut]

Jeeez, leave the bloke alone, we would all love his earning power just for a month, and most of us would like to do half the women he has. WITHOUT paying!

Except to his ex of course

[mrtoad]

Jeeez, leave the bloke alone, we would all love his earning power just for a month, and most of us would like to do half the women he has. WITHOUT paying!

Except to his ex of course

Yeh it cost him 50 odd million dollars or so.

[cardholder]

Not sitting on top of the golf world so he can be keen to give back. More like looking for people to remember him..

Keen to give back??? Give back what?? Appearance fees at his level are $1-1.5 million. Again, give back what??

Why should he 'give anything back'.

He is a professional sportsman who's income is determined by the structure of the sport he is involved in.

[Bagwan]

Perhaps he wants to hand this over.

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[WarpSpeed]

Jeeez, leave the bloke alone, we would all love his earning power just for a month, and most of us would like to do half the women he has. WITHOUT paying!

Except to his ex of course

Yeh it cost him 50 odd million dollars or so.

I heard something closer to a hundred .... But it's all conjecture as the deal is sealed.. And point taken...

Edited October 28, 2010 by WarpSpeed

[Gonsalviz]

You can have dual.

I'm still open to be told I'm wrong, but I thought that "officially", you should choose one or the other at age 20? ie up to 20, they'd allow a person to have dual, but after 20, you make your choice.

(Clearly, I do know that's it's not actively enforced.)

It is not enforced. I keep both American and Thai passports, show both at immigration. They hassle me, but only because my Thai passport doesn't have a departure stamp from the US when arriving in BKK.

Nobody gets a departure stamp from the good ole USA. They don't know how long anybody stays.

[Jingthing]

Do you think he got one of those free Thaksin "Elite" cards?

[GeorgeO]

"Give back?"

More like take something from about the only country which cares about golf but doesn't know what he's truly like.

His image is destroyed, his marketing gone to hel_l, but Thailand, which knows nothing about what goes on outside its borders still loves him.

He's got nothing left so he'll, cynically milk the lat dollar he can.

But He Thai, He Rich Man, He OK.

Tiger got caught for what the vast majority of farangs living in Thailand believe is de rigueur, and your suggestion that his image is destroyed couldn't be further from the truth. Just listen to the crowds when he turns out. They strill love him, and he most certainly is not a spent force as you suggest; indeed, he still has the potential to win many more Majors.

He is not duty bound to give anything to Thailand, in the same way that he is not duty bound to give anything to his homeland ... but he does. He is the single greatest provider of funds and facilities for junior golf in the States. If he is planning to do something similar here, then you should prepare yourself for a large portion of humble pie.

[geriatrickid]

He is making an effort to rebuild his brand image in markets where his multiple debauched sexual adventures are not important. In some countries people might be offended by Tiger’s multiple adventures with what some call whores. The allegations of violent sadism would probably cause some parents to keep their kids away from the man. For example, Tiger is alleged to have texted his porn-star lover, Joslyn James: “God girl. You better want to take care of me… I want to treat you rough. Throw you around, spank and slap you… Slap your face. Treat you like a dirty little whore… Hold you down while I choke you.” Too creepy for me. In Thailand it appears no one is upset by such reports, most likely because people are oblivious to what goes on outside Thailand.

I don’t think he’s doing it for the money. This year, prior to his divorce settlement, Forbes estimated Tiger Wood’s personal worth to be approximately $600million USD. Current divorce settlements would put Tiger's settlement in the range of $100 -$200million. Even with a worst case scenario, Tiger still would have $400million of assets. Appreciably some assets may be underperforming, however, the sheer size of his investment portfolio is more than enough to maintain his lifestyle.

Tiger’s carefully cultivated image of being a nice caring guy was shredded by his adventures in perversion. He has to visit places like Thailand to change his negative image. He'll fit in quite quite nicely in Pattaya.

[KRS1]

He scoffed at Thailand when offered honorary citizenship. When interviewed he actually said, "Why would I want Thai citizenship? "

Stay in America, you're no longer welcome...

[Cnxforever]

...and Thailand keen to bringing Tiger Woods to Thailand after he refused a Thai citizenship.

He's an American citizen, why would he give that up. As I understand it, you cannot have dual citizenship in Thailand.

I could be wrong. If that's the case, would you suggest he drop his American citizenship?

To understand the issue you have to dig a bit deeper and go back to his roots.

A multiple ethnic background father who came here as a soldier during the Vietnam war and a Thai mother and this in 1966 !! If you think Thailand is xenophobic and discriminating when it comes to skin color today you can imagine what it was like here in the 60's.

So called "luk khueng" where until 15-20 years or so ago - looked down upon as being somehow inferior to "real" Thais - even if the non Thai parent was white - most Thai's preferred skin color. Tiger's father being dark skinned I can only imagine what the couple had to endure here in the 60's / 70's.

Even today - many fair skinned Thais look down upon the dark skinned - hence all the whitening products.

When Tiger Woods became famous - his Thai roots where "discovered" here and suddenly a young man who might have been refused entry into a nightclub or restaurant in Bangkok because of the color of his skin - during the 70's and 80's - this kind of discrimination was quite common here - was embraced by all Thais from the PM down - as a "long lost son" - who now famous - was supposed to take up a "honorary' Thai citizenship?

No surprise he and his family declined - it was a slap in the face of then PM Chavalit Yongchaiyut - and rightly so.

I am sure Tiger's mother could tell a few stories about her life here being married to a dark skinned foreigner, so why should her son - who - if not a celebrity - would be looked down upon here by most people - accept a honorary citizenship?

[MZurf]

Tiger's carefully cultivated image of being a nice caring guy was shredded by his adventures in perversion. He has to visit places like Thailand to change his negative image. He'll fit in quite quite nicely in Pattaya.

Most certainly not! Don't you know our fair city is now a family destination?

[tomyummer]

He is making an effort to rebuild his brand image in markets where his multiple debauched sexual adventures are not important. In some countries people might be offended by Tiger’s multiple adventures with what some call whores. The allegations of violent sadism would probably cause some parents to keep their kids away from the man. For example, Tiger is alleged to have texted his porn-star lover, Joslyn James: “God girl. You better want to take care of me… I want to treat you rough. Throw you around, spank and slap you… Slap your face. Treat you like a dirty little whore… Hold you down while I choke you.” Too creepy for me. In Thailand it appears no one is upset by such reports, most likely because people are oblivious to what goes on outside Thailand.

I don’t think he’s doing it for the money. This year, prior to his divorce settlement, Forbes estimated Tiger Wood’s personal worth to be approximately $600million USD. Current divorce settlements would put Tiger's settlement in the range of $100 -$200million. Even with a worst case scenario, Tiger still would have $400million of assets. Appreciably some assets may be underperforming, however, the sheer size of his investment portfolio is more than enough to maintain his lifestyle.

Tiger’s carefully cultivated image of being a nice caring guy was shredded by his adventures in perversion. He has to visit places like Thailand to change his negative image. He'll fit in quite quite nicely in Pattaya.

He doesn't need to stray far. With his cash, just stick around Ratchada.

[Rama]

All Americans think of themselves as Americans. He thinks of himself as an American with a Thai mother, he doesn't think of himself as a Thai-American. We all have parents or grandparents or further back who came from somewhere else. We're all mutts. He doesn't think it anymore important to become a citizen of Thailand than I would of Germany, or Ireland, or France, or England, or American Indian (my mix). I have found it curious over here in Asia as an American that Europeans focus on an American's family name and zero in on ethnicity thinking that the American identifies with that particular ethnicity. A very very few do, but the vast majority don't.

[puyaidon]

There have been enough comments on Tiger Woods being half Thai but something not too well known is the discrimination that his father may have faced in the US.

While I was in the AF in Georgia living on base, I lived next door to a black guy who was married to a girl from Taiwan. Both were very nice people and he faced more discrimination from his black brethern for not marrying a black woman than he did from the whites.

Nothing was said of his wife but he was considered a renegrade to his race for not marrying as they thought he should. As Tiger Woods' father was an Army officer, I wonder if he faced the same discrimination from his black brethern as my next door neighbor. That was during the time when we had to sign a statement before being stationed in the south stating that we knew that being married to an oriental meant we would face the farcial race discrimination of the deep South at that time.

Those of us who were here when Tiger came the last time have to laugh. Why was he offered Thai citizenship? You better believe someone was looking to make some money living off of the Tiger. No other reason. Why he is coming now? I believe it is only due to his mother as she is not young anymore and probably wants to see her homeland one last time.

[redbicycle]

Not sitting on top of the golf world so he can be keen to give back. More like looking for people to remember him..

Keen to give back??? Give back what?? Appearance fees at his level are $1-1.5 million. Again, give back what??

I think he will contribute more in Soi NaNa

[jcbangkok]

"He's an American citizen, why would he give that up. As I understand it, you cannot have dual citizenship in Thailand.

I could be wrong. If that's the case, would you suggest he drop his American"

Yes you may have dual. I know 2 folks who do.

They check into Thailand using the Thai passport, when leaving Thailand for the USA they use both the Thai and the American passport.

Checking in and out of the USA they only use the American passport.

Are you sure about this? A passport needs to show where you have come from, when you arrived and so fourth. If you enter Thailand on a Thai passport, I don' think they would then make an entry in your US passport showing you exiting when there is no stamp in the passport of you arriving.

Sorry to get off topic here but just curious. I have always understood people using dual passports or even having two passports (some countries will allow you to get a 2nd when traveling to Israel and then Muslim countries) that they only can use a single passport for a particular trip.

[scorecard]

He scoffed at Thailand when offered honorary citizenship. When interviewed he actually said, "Why would I want Thai citizenship? "

Stay in America, you're no longer welcome...

Might be better to quote the whole comment that he made at the time rather than a few selected words.

I can't quote his whole comment word for word however I recall very well that he made a fairly direct comment to the effect that Thailand had not treated his mother very well and that was why he was not in a rush to take a Thai passport.

I also recall his comments caused the Thai officials who very clammoring all over him and pushing the Thai passport idea to rush for cover with their tails between their legs.