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Religion Of Peace Threatens Shopkeepers

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In the south, Muslims have told people that if they work on Fridays, their ears will be cut off.

Pretty hard to blame this one on “occupation.”

"Threats of violence against people who work on Fridays brought businesses in Yala and Pattani to a standstill yesterday. ...

Downtown Yala looked like a ghost town as 80% of shops closed and buses plying between Yala and Pattani and some outlying districts halted services. Outside Yala, food shops, groceries, petrol stations and other businesses run by Muslims were also closed while there were no hawkers on the streets.

Yusuf Doloh, a Yala vendor, said despite a guarantee of safety from authorities, people still felt unsafe and had decided to take precautions.

Security officials had asked people to live their lives normally. Islamic religious leaders confirmed that working on Fridays was not wrong under their religion.

Some bus passengers could not go home and had to stay in town after services were suspended. Business closure meant a day without income so some people were wondering out loud if threatening Muslims against working on Fridays was in breach of Islamic principles. ...

It was also quiet in Pattani. A market owner said vendors dared not sell their wares out of fear for their safety. “They said they were afraid of having their ears cut off,” he said, adding that most people also stayed in their homes."

Doesn't look like those paper cranes have had much impact... :o:D

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Well you put peaceful people in a corner and force them to fight, you get what you expected. What about the silly peace bird given by Thaksin one year ago ? what happened to that ?

Unless this was an extremely clever gambit by the authorities ( though I doubt it ) the sad scum down south might well have shot themselves in the foot ( or blown it right off )

something such as this which really threatens the livelyhood of the common people might be enough to galvanise them into a cohesive <deleted> off .

the authorities could take massive advantage of this to attempt to attract the goodwill of the locals.

I used to think you were a pretty smart guy Boon but I guess I was wrong. You're just as prone to intolerance and nutty hysteria that led to the internment camps in ww2.

Catholics and protestants murdered men women and children for years in Northern Ireland, Jews bomb refugee camps in the Gaza, and Muslim Palestinians blow up buses.

It would do your credibility some good to be not quite so selective in your judgements of religion.

I'm no liberal who wants to make excuses for terrorists. I think every one of them should be hunted down and eliminated. However I don't believe that to be a good conservative that I have to be intolerant, or jump on whatever bandwagon is vouge. I have my own ideas, and don't need to follow any mantras or rallying cries.

I really thought you were better than this.

cv

In the south, Muslims have told people that if they work on Fridays, their ears will be cut off.

Pretty hard to blame this one on “occupation.”

"Threats of violence against people who work on Fridays brought businesses in Yala and Pattani to a standstill yesterday. ...

Downtown Yala looked like a ghost town as 80% of shops closed and buses plying between Yala and Pattani and some outlying districts halted services. Outside Yala, food shops, groceries, petrol stations and other businesses run by Muslims were also closed while there were no hawkers on the streets.

Yusuf Doloh, a Yala vendor, said despite a guarantee of safety from authorities, people still felt unsafe and had decided to take precautions.

Security officials had asked people to live their lives normally. Islamic religious leaders confirmed that working on Fridays was not wrong under their religion.

Some bus passengers could not go home and had to stay in town after services were suspended. Business closure meant a day without income so some people were wondering out loud if threatening Muslims against working on Fridays was in breach of Islamic principles. ...

It was also quiet in Pattani. A market owner said vendors dared not sell their wares out of fear for their safety. “They said they were afraid of having their ears cut off,” he said, adding that most people also stayed in their homes."

Doesn't look like those paper cranes have had much impact... :o  :D

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It would do your credibility some good to be not quite so selective in your judgements of religion

agreed

we should despise , decry and denigrate all religions with equal vehemence.

but it has to be said that at the moment , it is the failure of the moderate muslim majority to stand up and be counted , and the excuses put forward by the liberal and the politically correct that is causing so much anti - muslim sentiment around the world.

the sooner moderate muslims come out of denial and cure the cancer that is spreading within islam the sooner can the rest of us stop looking for bombs on trains and buses and looneys in airports and on motorcycles.

this has nothing to do with palestine , israel , afghanistan iraq or the true precepts of islam.

it has everything to do with politics of a particularly nasty and envious sort.

it has everything to do with the brainwashing of an agressive mediaeval ideology into receptive islam youth , financed and supported by powerhungry violent beardos in saudi arabia.

if muslims cant keep their own house clean , then cleaners will have to be brought in from the outside again.

I used to think you were a pretty smart guy Boon but I guess I was wrong. You're just as prone to intolerance and nutty hysteria that led to the internment camps in ww2.

Catholics and protestants murdered men women and children for years in Northern Ireland, Jews bomb refugee camps in the Gaza, and Muslim Palestinians blow up buses.

It would do your credibility some good to be not quite so selective in your judgements of religion.

I'm no liberal who wants to make excuses for terrorists. I think every one of them should be hunted down and eliminated. However I don't believe that to be a good conservative that I have to be intolerant, or jump on whatever bandwagon is vouge. I have my own ideas, and don't need to follow any mantras or rallying cries.

I really thought you were better than this.

cv

In the south, Muslims have told people that if they work on Fridays, their ears will be cut off.

Pretty hard to blame this one on “occupation.”

"Threats of violence against people who work on Fridays brought businesses in Yala and Pattani to a standstill yesterday. ...

Downtown Yala looked like a ghost town as 80% of shops closed and buses plying between Yala and Pattani and some outlying districts halted services. Outside Yala, food shops, groceries, petrol stations and other businesses run by Muslims were also closed while there were no hawkers on the streets.

Yusuf Doloh, a Yala vendor, said despite a guarantee of safety from authorities, people still felt unsafe and had decided to take precautions.

Security officials had asked people to live their lives normally. Islamic religious leaders confirmed that working on Fridays was not wrong under their religion.

Some bus passengers could not go home and had to stay in town after services were suspended. Business closure meant a day without income so some people were wondering out loud if threatening Muslims against working on Fridays was in breach of Islamic principles. ...

It was also quiet in Pattani. A market owner said vendors dared not sell their wares out of fear for their safety. “They said they were afraid of having their ears cut off,” he said, adding that most people also stayed in their homes."

Doesn't look like those paper cranes have had much impact... :o  :D

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Think you are a bit OT here, cdnvic, although the writing of this story and its posting on Thaivisa does demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge, on the part of the author and his disciple Boon Mee, for Islamic culture.

I have worked in many countries where the predominant religion has been Moslem. It is completely normal that all shops and businesses are closed on a Friday.

The question that must be asked with this storey is not concerning the apparently violent reactions (unproven, unattributed and only hearsay: which is the same as saying made-up lies) to those who open their shops on Friday, but who is it - or what is it - that is compelling these shopkeepers to break years of Islamic tradition and open their businesses on a Friday?

Another question that could be asked is what is the state of business in the conservative Bible belt of the USA on a Sunday? Are businesses blessed from the pulpit if they choose to work on the Lord's Day - the Day of Rest?

Or do some of the sinners risk a bloodied nose from some of the more zealot congregationalists?

but it has to be said that at the moment , it is the failure of the moderate muslim majority to stand up and be counted
It's unfortunately been repeated throughout history. german civilians in WW2, non-combatants in Northern Ireland, etc etc. That old saying that the only thing nessesary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing holds true.
we should despise , decry and denigrate all religions with equal vehemence

Of course Stalin, Hitler, and Pol Pot were athiests. :o

cv

but who is it - or what is it - that is compelling these shopkeepers to break years of Islamic tradition and open their businesses on a Friday?

freedom of thought

freedom of action

throwing off the shackles

being oneself

or even just standing up and being counted.

As the local economy has gone to rubbish since these brave warriors started attacking unarmed schools, they may just need that extra day's income to break even.

cv

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I used to think you were a pretty smart guy Boon but I guess I was wrong. You're just as prone to intolerance and nutty hysteria that led to the internment camps in ww2.

Catholics and protestants murdered men women and children for years in Northern Ireland, Jews bomb refugee camps in the Gaza, and Muslim Palestinians blow up buses.

It would do your credibility some good to be not quite so selective in your judgements of religion.

I'm no liberal who wants to make excuses for terrorists. I think every one of them should be hunted down and eliminated. However I don't believe that to be a good conservative that I have to be intolerant, or jump on whatever bandwagon is vouge. I have my own ideas, and don't need to follow any mantras or rallying cries.

I really thought you were better than this.

cv

In the south, Muslims have told people that if they work on Fridays, their ears will be cut off.

Pretty hard to blame this one on “occupation.”

"Threats of violence against people who work on Fridays brought businesses in Yala and Pattani to a standstill yesterday. ...

Downtown Yala looked like a ghost town as 80% of shops closed and buses plying between Yala and Pattani and some outlying districts halted services. Outside Yala, food shops, groceries, petrol stations and other businesses run by Muslims were also closed while there were no hawkers on the streets.

Yusuf Doloh, a Yala vendor, said despite a guarantee of safety from authorities, people still felt unsafe and had decided to take precautions.

Security officials had asked people to live their lives normally. Islamic religious leaders confirmed that working on Fridays was not wrong under their religion.

Some bus passengers could not go home and had to stay in town after services were suspended. Business closure meant a day without income so some people were wondering out loud if threatening Muslims against working on Fridays was in breach of Islamic principles. ...

It was also quiet in Pattani. A market owner said vendors dared not sell their wares out of fear for their safety. “They said they were afraid of having their ears cut off,” he said, adding that most people also stayed in their homes."

Doesn't look like those paper cranes have had much impact... :o  :D

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It's a catch-phrase (RoP) is all but also hits the nail on the head. Ask yourself, who are the perps of all the violence and terror? Buddhists? Talking here about the south, not N. Ireland etc.

Ran across this today which may or may not have you stop and think:

I still fight oppression

"The liberals who say I have deserted the left should ask themselves where they stand on Islamism..."

Seriously, Boon, did you read the whole article you posted?

It clearly says the religious leaders say it isn't against their religion to work on Fridays... but you choose to ignore that and blame the entire religion (1 billion plus people from different cultures with varying degrees of practice and secularization) for the work of the terrorist nutters.

Keep doing so and you will turn the previously peaceful Muslims who still comprise the majority into terrorist supporters, just because of the shocking arrogance you and your right wing friends display.

Get real. Neither I nor cdnvic support the Islamic militants, nor do most liberals - and you know it, so why do you keep accusing us of doing so?

It is tempting to call you a KKK supporter just because you grew up a Christian.

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Seriously, Boon, did you read the whole article you posted?

It clearly says the religious leaders say it isn't against their religion to work on Fridays... but you choose to ignore that and blame the entire religion (1 billion plus people from different cultures with varying degrees of practice and secularization) for the work of the terrorist nutters.

Keep doing so and you will turn the previously peaceful Muslims who still comprise the majority into terrorist supporters, just because of the shocking arrogance you and your right wing friends display.

Get real. Neither I nor cdnvic support the Islamic militants, nor do most liberals - and you know it, so why do you keep accusing us of doing so?

It is tempting to call you a KKK supporter just because you grew up a Christian.

I simply brought up the topic again to show what's still going on in the south and 'am not blaming the 'entire religion'. The term 'Religion of Peace' was coined by your favorite President in a speach right after 9/11 when he made reference to Islam as the RoP. I believe he was being serious although a lot of folks took it as tounge-in-cheek.

Apologies to all who took offense to the somewhat inflamatory nature of the title of my post. One thing y'all have to admit though your rank & file Muslim has not come out loud or strong enough against the terror. :o

One thing y'all have to admit though your rank & file Muslim has not come out loud or strong enough against the terror. 

and surveys of muslim male youth opinion done in the uk in the aftermath of the bombings there show that an alarming number (20% in one survey) support such tactics and have some admiration for the bombers .

i know that surveys often are weighted to support the opinion desired by the organisation commissioning the survey , but until rank and file muslims really do stand up , shout and be counted then it will become increasingly difficult to see these acts as purely minority driven.

worse though , is the fact that the reluctance of the average normal muslim to come out vociferously against those who have hijacked the religion for their own ends will only increase the appeal of right wing anti muslim sentiment to those who seek only the slightest excuse to take racist action.

the ultra-right british nationalist party are rubbing their hands with glee at the moment.

this all plays into the hands of the terrorists who only seek to spread disharmony of any sort wherever they can.

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