Was the government oil industry sold off or handed out to private business?

I am not really sure Scea, what is clear is, that the details are secret.

And Chuck yes no major contracts went to the US. But this oil is still traded in USD which the US can freely print (sort off).

And about 30% of the oil produced in the world goes to the US if I am correct My apologies if I am wrong).

So it make sense that this oil is not in the hands of American based companies as these Dollars would come back home.

So please do not attack me on the details I am just thinking.

All or most of the Dollars that pay for oil are exported.

Anyway I am confused and will try to figure it out with help of you as it seems to be very complex.

Kind regards,

Alex

Was the government oil industry sold off or handed out to private business?

I am not really sure Scea, what is clear is, that the details are secret.

And Chuck yes no major contracts went to the US. But this oil is still traded in USD which the US can freely print (sort off).

And about 30% of the oil produced in the world goes to the US if I am correct My apologies if I am wrong).

So it make sense that this oil is not in the hands of American based companies as these Dollars would come back home.

So please do not attack me on the details I am just thinking.

All or most of the Dollars that pay for oil are exported.

Anyway I am confused and will try to figure it out with help of you as it seems to be very complex.

Kind regards,

Alex

The US does not print dollars with no sales. It sells dollars to China. Who buys oil with the dollars. Then US buys goods from China with the Yen that China gave the US for the dollars. The dollars don't come back home to the US they go to China's foreign reserves. When China gets enough money they will buy Australia. They will buy Australia because it is closer than California and a bit cheaper.

Who buys US dollars.

-- China, mainland: $906.8 billion

-- Japan: $877.4 billion

-- United Kingdom: $477.6 billion*

-- Oil exporters, which include Ecuador, Venezuela, Indonesia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Gabon, Libya, and Nigeria: $213.9 billion.

-- Brazil: $177.6 billion

-- Hong Kong: $139.2 billion

-- Caribbean banking centers, which include Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Netherlands Antilles and Panama: $133.7 billion

-- Russia: $131.6 billion

-- Taiwan: $131.2 billion

-- Canada: $125.2 billion

If you are so intent on blaming Bremer, then blame him for dissolving the Iraqi army after being defeated by the coalition. That put an instant 2 million soldiers on the street with no income and no way to make any money, thereby feeding any insurgency with armed soldiers. That was a big mistake by Bremer.

The rest, as I said earlier, has become OBE.

How much of the Iraqi army dissolved itself? I remember seeing the video of all those soldiers just walking home, going awol after the invasion. Not like most of them wanted to be there in the first place.

Most of those guys walking towards Baghdad were cannon fodder conscripts. Bremer prohibited any former Baathist party members and officers from participating in the newly developing Iraqi Army.

Many Republican Guard members then signed up with the insurgency for cash. Things went downhill from there.

The Fedayeen Saddam had a little to do with to, didn't they? The insurgency didn't just happen because of mistakes made by the US & Bremer.

Was the government oil industry sold off or handed out to private business?

I am not really sure Scea, what is clear is, that the details are secret.

And Chuck yes no major contracts went to the US. But this oil is still traded in USD which the US can freely print (sort off).

And about 30% of the oil produced in the world goes to the US if I am correct My apologies if I am wrong).

So it make sense that this oil is not in the hands of American based companies as these Dollars would come back home.

So please do not attack me on the details I am just thinking.

All or most of the Dollars that pay for oil are exported.

Anyway I am confused and will try to figure it out with help of you as it seems to be very complex.

Kind regards,

Alex

Chuckd explains how the contracts were distributed but we're not much wiser as to how much was paid for them and to whom.

Companies like Shell and Petronas may not be based in the US but are still multinationals rather than exclusively British or Malaysian and many US companies and shareholders would benefit from them.

There are people in the US who are genuinely afraid that the US could be held to ransom on oil supplies, Chavez hasn't exactly helped qualm these fears.

The Iraq oil reserves would now be considered "secure".

Another interesting thing is the number and role of US (sub)contracting companies.

There seem to be about 50-60 of them operating in Iraq.

A few:

Blackwater Security Consulting

CACI International

DynCorp now Computer Sciences Corporation (CSC)

Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) a former division of Halliburton

Titan corporation

They profit enormously from these conflicts.

More interesting when you connect some dots....

Cheney- Halliburton

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/chronology.html

Another interesting thing is the number and role of US (sub)contracting companies.

There seem to be about 50-60 of them operating in Iraq.

A few:

Blackwater Security Consulting

CACI International

DynCorp now Computer Sciences Corporation (CSC)

Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) a former division of Halliburton

Titan corporation

They profit enormously from these conflicts.

More interesting when you connect some dots....

Cheney- Halliburton

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/chronology.html

How many Chinese, French, and Russian companies have contracts in Iraq?

Why not use your time to dig up something useful for a change. These were the countries primarily involved with the Oil for Food Program.

Another interesting thing is the number and role of US (sub)contracting companies.

There seem to be about 50-60 of them operating in Iraq.

A few:

Blackwater Security Consulting

CACI International

DynCorp now Computer Sciences Corporation (CSC)

Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) a former division of Halliburton

Titan corporation

They profit enormously from these conflicts.

More interesting when you connect some dots....

Cheney- Halliburton

http://www.halliburt...chronology.html

How many Chinese, French, and Russian companies have contracts in Iraq?

Why not use your time to dig up something useful for a change. These were the countries primarily involved with the Oil for Food Program.

Yes...lets look at the Chinese, French, and Russian connections.....lets wag the dog.

Mainly Ruskis and ze Frenchz indeed Chuck.

But guess what.........

Among the alleged recipients of the vouchers was Sevan, the program’s chief administrator.

On 7 February 2005, United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan suspended Sevan and another UN official with pay ($1 per year plus benefits, including diplomatic immunity from prosecution) because of their roles in the fraud.

Sevan had resigned from the UN on 7 August 2005, just one day before the Volcker report was due to be published.

I guess he had someone on the inside warning him.

You see, whenever some illegal dosh can be made a lot of people cannot resist, and that is one of the things Pilger tries to uncover or let us think about I believe.

A few years ago I had a talk with some high up government official and I asked him what the most difficult part of his job was, and he answered: "Resisting the temptation"

Looking at all of these "problems" we have around the world, I can't stop thinking how fecked up this world really is.

Take care all!

Alex

A short interview here:

Read his book.

A short interview here:

Read his book.

I just lost 11 minutes of my life, never to be recovered. Then I looked up the source of the interview.

Here is the Google link to RT.

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RT is the first Russian 24/7 English-language news channel which brings the Russian view on global news.

News - On Air - USA - Programs

rt.com/ - Cached - Similar

and the link: http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=RT&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=f478bdfafcb0c911

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I used to get Russia Today on my satellite.

Nice docos on places I'd never heard of.

19 US soldiers were killed in the battle and over 1,000 Somali's. Thanks for the usual BS boys.

Just to state there were no defeated people here,on either side of the divide, just a numbers game against over riding technology.

Once the Ranger missed the rope, the badly thought out operation was already in deep trouble, then the Black Hawk and consequently the Little Bird and it was a disaster.

The Somalis knew the Rangers wouldn't leave a man behind, so they concentrated all their will on bringing down a Black Hawk and then capturing someone if they could.

No, there was no defeat, just a Pyrrhic Victory for both sides, whether it was 19 men or a thousand, but what it did do was forge US Foreign Policy for the next twenty years.

Sure you lost 11 minutes of your life Chuck. Was it that what he was telling was already known by you?

If not, reading his book (available through Torrent) reveals these patterns/tactics are being used all over the world through "foreign policy"

This guy was actively involved in this as a chief economic advisor.

Straight from a source information.

Sure you lost 11 minutes of your life Chuck. Was it that what he was telling was already known by you?

If not, reading his book (available through Torrent) reveals these patterns/tactics are being used all over the world through "foreign policy"

This guy was actively involved in this as a chief economic advisor.

Straight from a source information.

If, and that is a very big 'if', you believe the source.

The guy is trying to sell his book and has found a sympathetic ear on Russian television that wants to believe the source.

I choose not to. If you believe him, I have a bridge for sale.

Sure you lost 11 minutes of your life Chuck. Was it that what he was telling was already known by you?

If not, reading his book (available through Torrent) reveals these patterns/tactics are being used all over the world through "foreign policy"

This guy was actively involved in this as a chief economic advisor.

Straight from a source information.

If, and that is a very big 'if', you believe the source.

The guy is trying to sell his book and has found a sympathetic ear on Russian television that wants to believe the source.

I choose not to. If you believe him, I have a bridge for sale.

Are you saying that this guy has never been an economic "hitman"?

That he never worked for those big corporations he claims he have been hired?

Have you read his book?

Do you have any understanding about his background other then seeing him on RT?

Sure you lost 11 minutes of your life Chuck. Was it that what he was telling was already known by you?

If not, reading his book (available through Torrent) reveals these patterns/tactics are being used all over the world through "foreign policy"

This guy was actively involved in this as a chief economic advisor.

Straight from a source information.

If, and that is a very big 'if', you believe the source.

The guy is trying to sell his book and has found a sympathetic ear on Russian television that wants to believe the source.

I choose not to. If you believe him, I have a bridge for sale.

Are you saying that this guy has never been an economic "hitman"?

That he never worked for those big corporations he claims he have been hired?

Have you read his book?

Do you have any understanding about his background other then seeing him on RT?

1. What is an economic hitman and do they really exist? Please provide proof of your allegation.

2. Do you have proof he worked for those companies in the position he claims to have held? Payroll stubs indicating his job position and job description would be nice.

3. No! I have not read his book and am unlikely to do so.

4. I know from his web site he is a greenie, peace at all costs, anti US government, anti big business, Julian Assange supporter and writes for publications like the Huffington Post and Daily Kos. I also suspect he has doctored his resume (CV) so naive people would tend to believe his tales of derring-do.

I choose not to believe most of what I read on someone's personal web site when they are trying to sell their own books and soliciting donations. If you choose to believe him, it is up to you. Just don't expect everybody to fall for the same thing.

Now, about that bridge.....

1. They actually are chief economist.

2. I do not work for the tax department.

3. As I said is it because it is already known by you how this works?

4. There are two Johns, Perkins and Pilger. You may have mixed them up? Why is it a bad thing to try and make the world a better place?

His story on how these economic take overs are being done is very clear to see and with a bit of searching you can see it for yourself.

I know from his web site he is a greenie, peace at all costs, anti US government, anti big business,

And then:

I choose not to believe most of what I read on someone's personal web site

What bridge?

1. They actually are chief economist.

2. I do not work for the tax department.

3. As I said is it because it is already known by you how this works?

4. There are two Johns, Perkins and Pilger. You may have mixed them up? Why is it a bad thing to try and make the world a better place?

His story on how these economic take overs are being done is very clear to see and with a bit of searching you can see it for yourself.

I know from his web site he is a greenie, peace at all costs, anti US government, anti big business,

And then:

I choose not to believe most of what I read on someone's personal web site

What bridge?

Alex, you may not be aware of an old anecdote that has to do with gullibility and a scam to sell the Brooklyn Bridge. Offering to "sell you a bridge" is another way of accusing you of being gullible.

The irony here is that some bridges have already been bought....but in this case because they were sold with the selling point of being patriotic, and that the bridges would defend against the so-called Muslim terrorist scourge sweeping the world.

the so-called Muslim terrorist scourge sweeping the world.

"So-called."

the so-called Muslim terrorist scourge sweeping the world.

"So-called."

Yes, I agree: "so-called".

This list of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims since 9/11/01 (a rate of about four or five a day) is incomplete because only a small percentage of attacks are picked up by international news sources, even those resulting in multiple loss of life.

These are not incidents involving nominal Muslims killing for money or personal pride. This is not ordinary crime. We include incidents of deadly violence that can reasonably be determined to have been committed out of religious duty - as interpreted by the perpetrator.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/TheList.htm

It's all just a made up right-wing conspiracy.

A case could be made that all the attacks listed in Iraq and Afghanistan are by groups representing the previous government that had been removed by outside invasion.

No doubt the Maquis and Tito's fighters were seen as terrorists by the Nazis but most people see them as freedom fighters now.

Maybe we'll have to leave it for a decade or so and let history decide on this.

France, the Phillipines, the Netherlands, Thailand, the UK. The list of counties with problems with Islamic radicals goes on and on.

Do you think the Thailand problem is about religion or independence?

Sure they are Muslims but weren't those southern states all part of Malaya? (Southern states can be a handful you know )

I think the Philippines is more about breaking away from the Luzon government, the US fought a fairly nasty war against Moro separatists there at the beginning of the last century that was definitely about colonialism rather than religion.

Attacks in Europe would fall into the terrorist category though.

A case could be made that all the attacks listed in Iraq and Afghanistan are by groups representing the previous government that had been removed by outside invasion.

You mean the dictatorships that had been removed by outside invasion?

In the case of Iraq, the Saddam regime was responsible for precious little of the terrorist activity. In the case of Afghanistan, the point has some validity, but it's hard to call the a fundamental religious group a government, per se.

One of the problems with wars and civil conflicts is that a leadership void occurs. Those vying for power are from a wide variety of groups. In Iraq, these include the Shiites and the Kurds (as well as others).

Afghanistan has been so socially disorganized for such a long period of time, it is difficult to know what Afghan culture is really like. In their case, the void was filled by religion.

I don't particularly like to label Muslims as terrorists, but I do understand those that do. I can't call Islam a religion of peace; but the same applies to Christianity.

To paraphrase someone: There will always be good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things, but it takes religion to get good people to do bad things.

A case could be made that all the attacks listed in Iraq and Afghanistan are by groups representing the previous government that had been removed by outside invasion.

You mean the dictatorships that had been removed by outside invasion?

Tomahto tomayto....

So when are you going to collect Karimov for your trophy cabinet?

The United States said that this election "was neither free nor fair and offered Uzbekistan's voters no true choice"

The international community has repeatedly criticized the Karimov administration's record on human rights and press freedom. In particular, Craig Murray, the British Ambassador from 2002 to 2004, wrote about financial corruption and human rights abuses during his term in office and later in his memoirs, Murder in Samarkand, pointing to reports of boiling people to death. The United Nations found torture "institutionalized, systematic, and rampant" in Uzbekistan's judicial system.

Wiki

So when are you going to collect Karimov for your trophy cabinet?

When the left stops whining about the World's "policeman".

It makes a poor World dominator who worries about public opinion, I don't seem to recall the British Empire bursting into tears every time someone suggested their methods were a little underhand.

It doesn't last, you have to jump in and grab everything that's not nailed down while you're on top.

But of course, if Karimov, for all his nasty little habits, is classed as a friend of the US....