Thaksin Urges Supporters To Vote Pheu Thai To Bring Him Home

[animatic]

So basically he has this master plan to shape up Thailand but won't give it unless his crimes are pardoned/erased.

Doesn't look like someone who has the best interest of the country as a priority.

Interesting comment. And lets all remember that various respected economists have commented that his original 'grand plan' economics policies were totally unsustainable, would fix nothing, and longer-term would do all sorts of serious social damage.

Yes, " Thaksinomics™ " was as much of a sham as his paying off the IMF loans, that caused undesirable financial scrutiny of his actions, as he paid them off with long term loans from his Singapore buddies, that ultimately will cost more to Thailand. But kept the IMF from looking over his shoulder financially. And he fed Nationalist sentiment at the same time. Sounds like the less subtle TPN/PAD maneuvers, to stoke nationlaistic sentiments. Hypocrisy of a high order.

[givenall]

Thaksin can come back to Thailand any day of the week he chooses.

He tried this same tactic with PPP, he came home, and even with his proxies in office,

he STILL had to scamper off. They weren't enough to prevent his conviction.

Disingenuous total pratt.

What a bozo. He will never stop using others to get what he wants.

[animatic]

Thaksin can come back to Thailand any day of the week he chooses.

He tried this same tactic with PPP, he came home, and even with his proxies in office,

he STILL had to scamper off. They weren't enough to prevent his conviction.

Disingenuous total pratt.

What a bozo. He will never stop using others to get what he wants.

And it's obvious he wants everything.

Kow Tow taken to psychotic proportions.

PS. don't insult Bozo, I like Bozo, he helps people be happy.

[jayjay0]

So basically he has this master plan to shape up Thailand but won't give it unless his crimes are pardoned/erased.

Doesn't look like someone who has the best interest of the country as a priority.

Makes you wonder where he learned to think of Thailand ahead of his bank account. The fact that he expects Pheu Thai to white wash his crimes speaks to what he thinks of there integrity.:jap:

[jayjay0]

No matter what you think of Thaksin, at this point most reasonable people Thais and expats alike want a Thailand with more peace, unity, prosperity, and justice. Thaksin coming back to be pardoned and to take over again in a revengeful mood pretty much guarantees the opposite of all that. In other words, if that happens, get ready for a major league s--tstorm! You may have liked him before, or at least some things he did, but he is not the same Thaksin, and this is not the same Thailand ...

If he was taken to court with a honest judge and jury he would not be able to pass a competency test based on his comments in the last year. The decision would be the man is a loose canon.:jap:

Bear in mind I am not talking about five years ago I am talking about the comments and actions he has taken in the last year.

[TAWP]

'A vote for PTP is a vote for white washing of a criminal and the re-installment of an authoritarian government with republican aim.'

Catchy slogan.

[katasyd]

He lost something that's the most important to most egocentric Thai's.

[MaiChai]

If Taksin had returned to do his 2 years jail, chances are he would be out after a year, on the basis of good behaviour. So he would be out of jail by now.

Regarding bringing him back; if this happened you can be sure of another coup.

Regarding being pardoned: you need to admit to the crime, show remorse, and serve some time before you can be pardoned.

Conclusion: Taksin is deluded if he thinks he can just return with showing any respect for the law or the justice served to him. Why does he consider himself above everything, including justice? Totally deluded.

[Buchholz]

Thaksin's wish

Fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday urged Thai voters to support the opposition Pheu Thai Party in the next general election so that he can return to the country.

Speaking during a 15-minute phone-in from Africa to a religious ceremony his family carried out at a Chiang Mai temple, Thaksin expressed disbelief that Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva would dissolve the House, but said if an election was held soon he hoped Pheu Thai would win by a landslide.

"[if there is an election], there is only one way that the government would win the general election - electoral fraud. I will not say anything else till the government dissolves the House. Do not believe that there will be a House dissolution. But if there is an election, I would like to ask Thais to vote for Pheu Thai Party so it wins by a landslide," he said.

Key members of the Shinawatra family joined the religious ceremony, including former prime minister Somchai Wongsawat, Yaowapa Wongsawat, and Yingluck Shinawatra, as well as Thaksin's children.

Yaowapa said Thaksin financed construction of a main chapel at Wat Rongtham Samakki with an intention that merit from his donation would help bring him back as PM and Pheu Thai would win the next election.

-- The Nation 2011-01-30

[Mackie]

Manipulative crook is at it again...The tragic thing is that he still has a lot of support in Thailand, rural areas in particular. They love him because he gave them government loans which they have never repaid. Instead of investing into their small business as agreed they spent all money on mobile phones, cars, gambling and alcohol. No one explained to them that the loan is the loan. You've got to pay it back. It's easy to be generous with the government money,eh. Basically, he gave them 5 baht with his left hand, and took out 50 baht of their pocket with his right hand. And they love him for it!!! Bloody unbeliavable!!! However, you've got to give it to him. He is a master of manipulation.

[rubl]

Yaowapa said Thaksin financed construction of a main chapel at Wat Rongtham Samakki with an intention that merit from his donation would help bring him back as PM and Pheu Thai would win the next election.

With a slightly different religious background I've always thought donations are from the goodness within your heart without expecting anything in return, except a reward AFTER your death maybe.

As described it sounds more like the traditional way of deciding what lottery ticket to buy for the next drawing. I guess asking what about the good of the country and its people is a wee bit naive?

[Bagwan]

i would like to see Thaksin come back to Thailand in a casket

the sooner the better........

How about a raffle, first prize being who gets to light the fire?

[Traxster]

Sounds to me like he might be getting just a little bit ....desperate ??

[barka]

Personally I think Thaksin isn't too bothered about coming back. I think although he has a huge ego he knows his goose has been cooked. But I do think that people are using him to take the heat and focus away from their agenda. Thaksin is all we hear about, we can hate him, blame him or defend him, but by doing this we let the real puppet masters get away with things and placing the blame on our ex-leader.

I think if Thaksin really wanted to come back, he knows with a prison sentence he can not legally or morally lead the country again but he could advise and help restore confidence in Thailand, but I feel that this is not the agenda. Mirrors, mirrors and more mirrors is the game. So forget Thaksin all he does is rouse a few supporters now, let's keep an eye on the real issues and not spend time on him.

DO Thailand really want him back?....NO... hes past his SELL BY DATE

.You should never go backwords in Politics.....

[Ricardo]

Thaksin claimed he had a fast-tract measure to develop Thailand and make the country prosper.

I can't help but wonder, what exactly DL perceives to be the problem, and what his solution might be ? The Thai economy is doing quite well, given the wider problems, and seems still to be attracting new inward-investments.

Does he have some way to fix the Global-Economic-Crisis, in which case he surely owes it to his Ugandan/Montenegrin/Nicaraguan compatriates and the starving lottery-ticket-vendors of Fiji or the desperate Angolan diamond-miners, to share his vision. He would surely deserve a Nobel Prize, if he could indeed solve this serious problem, currently facing the whole world.

Or are there SLORC-generals who need another satellite & Thai-government financing, are there Cambodian off-shore oil-&-gas deals which cannot proceed (why not ?) without his return to the country, are there more Thai companies which desperately require selling-off to Singaporean investors, in a tax-efficient way natch ?

Do the poor-people of Thailand urgently require a return to paying 30B/visit, to their local government-hospital, rather than getting the admittedly-limited service for free as they do now ?

Does Finance-Minister Korn need advice on how to repay the government's recent-debt with long-term zero-coupon bonds ?

Is Air-Asia-Thailand struggling, without his guiding hand, or do the new Chinese-funded railways & wholesale-markets need an expert hand, to ensure that they are totally corruption-free as was Swampy ?

Or is it only that, operating (at his own choice) at arms-length from outside the country, he fears that his crumbling still-leaderless PTP coalition-of-factions will not "win by a landslide" as he now hopes ?

there is only one way that the government would win the general-election, electoral fraud.

Well at least the former-PM is talking about something he has proven experience of.

[SantiSuk]

He wants to "develop" the country. Somehow that sounds sinister coming from his lips

[Buchholz]

Yaowapa said Thaksin financed construction of a main chapel at Wat Rongtham Samakki with an intention that merit from his donation would help bring him back as PM and Pheu Thai would win the next election.

With a slightly different religious background I've always thought donations are from the goodness within your heart without expecting anything in return, except a reward AFTER your death maybe.

As described it sounds more like the traditional way of deciding what lottery ticket to buy for the next drawing. I guess asking what about the good of the country and its people is a wee bit naive?

Apparently his cousin's voodoo ceremony just didn't have enough ooompphh and needed a follow-up boost....

The Nation 2009-02-17

Thaksin's supporters hold rite to relieve him of bad lucks

CHIANG MAI: -- Ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra's supporters held a rite at a Chiang Mai temple Tuesday aimed at correcting "his sins in the past life" that were believed to have resulted in his bad karma.

The rite, a combination of animism, voodoo and Buddhism, was performed by the abbot of Wat Umong and eight other monks, as well as a proThaksin trance medium.

It was presided over by General Chaisit Shinawatra, Thaksin's cousin and former Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces.

His supporters expected the Lanna-style ceremony to help relieve Thaksin of bad lucks and ward off evils coming his way. About 300 people took part in the rite.

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[slapout]

In the years since he left Thailand, he has been associated with individuals/country leaders who have given him some additional ideas for personal investment, using what has been plundered from the general population.

[Crushdepth]

Yes, helping Thaksin avoid his jail term is the most important thing in the world. To hell with the rest of the country and the 60 million people in it, they don't matter.

What a selfish little man.

[otherstuff1957]

Personally I think Thaksin isn't too bothered about coming back. ... So forget Thaksin all he does is rouse a few supporters now, let's keep an eye on the real issues and not spend time on him.

I'm sure that Thaksin WOULD be forgotten, if he would just stop holding press conferences, appointing (or not appointing) political leaders of the PT party, making inflammatory speeches during his phone-ins to the Red Shirt rallies, funding the Red Shirt rallies, etc., etc..

If Thaksin had just stayed out of politics and lived life as a private individual his UK visa would probably not have been revoked and he would probably have been pardoned and allowed to return to the country by now.

[jayjay0]

Yaowapa said Thaksin financed construction of a main chapel at Wat Rongtham Samakki with an intention that merit from his donation would help bring him back as PM and Pheu Thai would win the next election.

With a slightly different religious background I've always thought donations are from the goodness within your heart without expecting anything in return, except a reward AFTER your death maybe.

As described it sounds more like the traditional way of deciding what lottery ticket to buy for the next drawing. I guess asking what about the good of the country and its people is a wee bit naive?

Apparently his cousin's voodoo ceremony just didn't have enough ooompphh and needed a follow-up boost....

The Nation 2009-02-17

Thaksin's supporters hold rite to relieve him of bad lucks

CHIANG MAI: -- Ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra's supporters held a rite at a Chiang Mai temple Tuesday aimed at correcting "his sins in the past life" that were believed to have resulted in his bad karma.

The rite, a combination of animism, voodoo and Buddhism, was performed by the abbot of Wat Umong and eight other monks, as well as a proThaksin trance medium.

It was presided over by General Chaisit Shinawatra, Thaksin's cousin and former Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces.

His supporters expected the Lanna-style ceremony to help relieve Thaksin of bad lucks and ward off evils coming his way. About 300 people took part in the rite.

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What bad luck.

He is a very lucky man.

Even if he was to come back to Thailand and hand himself over to authorities he would still be lucky in as how he would be able to walk a free man after a year of house arrest. He would not have to pay for the rest of his crimes.

[animatic]

Thaksin is obsessed with getting back power and the face he lost.

For him no matter how HIGH he gets, any diminished standing is a loss, and thus bad luck. He may be waist high above all others, but if his belt line slips to their hair level he gets depressed at the lose of stature.

It is far beyond just needing more money, it is beyond just wanting to be top dog, he is obsessed with the lost CONTROL of others he enjoyed, the game is the important thing, judged on numbers of acolytes, and his bank balances. Successful manipulation gives him a mental woody, he needs it or he feels down and incomplete. His whole act speaks loudly of this hubris and obsessiveness. He is one of the most transparently nasty pieces of work that I have seen in some time.

[Buchholz]

Ousted Thai PM Thaksin dismisses Abhisit claim of early poll

Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjaiva will never dissolve the House of Representatives and call for a fresh election in April as said, former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra said on Saturday.

Thaksin supporters on Saturday morning held a religious ceremony in northern province of Chiang Mai's Sankampaeng district. After the ceremony, Thaksin phone-in to address to his supporters. "There will be no fresh election soon because the government has never done as it had said," Bangkok Post online quoted Thaksin as saying.

The ex-prime minister said he is now doing business in South Africa and has been following the situation in Thailand as he was concerned about the political unrest.

Abhsit said earlier that there is a high possibility that he will dissolve the House of Representatives and call for an election in April. Thaksin also said to his supporters that he has learned how to rapidly develop the country and bring about prosperity to the nation, but this can be done after he can return to homeland.

Continues:

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/7276673.html

Xinhua - January 30, 2011

[whybother]

Ousted Thai PM Thaksin dismisses Abhisit claim of early poll

Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjaiva will never dissolve the House of Representatives and call for a fresh election in April as said, former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra said on Saturday.

Actually, I think Thaksin is hinting at something here.

One of Abhisit's conditions for an early poll is for no violent protests. Maybe Thaksin has some plans in the works.

[animatic]

Thaksin is delusional if he thinks causing more violence to put off the election and create a popular uprising to reinstall him will work, when the last two times failed miserably...

But then again he seems pretty much delusional.

[Gonzo the Face]

Thaksin's wish

Yaowapa said Thaksin financed construction of a main chapel at Wat Rongtham Samakki with an intention that merit from his donation would help bring him back as PM and Pheu Thai would win the next election.

-- The Nation 2011-01-30

There is just something about the above statement that making merit in a Buddhist ceremony does seem like trying to buy your way for personal gain....... just doesn't sound kosher to me

[scorecard]

Thaksin is obsessed with getting back power and the face he lost.

For him no matter how HIGH he gets, any diminished standing is a loss, and thus bad luck. He may be waist high above all others, but if his belt line slips to their hair level he gets depressed at the lose of stature.

It is far beyond just needing more money, it is beyond just wanting to be top dog, he is obsessed with the lost CONTROL of others he enjoyed, the game is the important thing, judged on numbers of acolytes, and his bank balances. Successful manipulation gives him a mental woody, he needs it or he feels down and incomplete. His whole act speaks loudly of this hubris and obsessiveness. He is one of the most transparently nasty pieces of work that I have seen in some time.

Quote from Animatic "He is one of the most transparently nasty pieces of work that I have seen in some time".

Well said, and I will add: ...and thinks the world, all Thais are too stupid to notice his blatant lies, continuous stepping on his own toes, continuous foot in mouth gaffs, continuous reversals, continuous egging of the naive red shirts: "fight for justice / fight for democracy", when in reality his own history is the exact opposite, and with numerous nasty examples.

[scorecard]

Ousted Thai PM Thaksin dismisses Abhisit claim of early poll

Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjaiva will never dissolve the House of Representatives and call for a fresh election in April as said, former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra said on Saturday.

Actually, I think Thaksin is hinting at something here.

One of Abhisit's conditions for an early poll is for no violent protests. Maybe Thaksin has some plans in the works.

Agree, he proably realizes that this is not a good timing for his clowns (PT clowns) so he will deliberately cause unrest hoping that PM Abhisit will theefore delay the eelctions.

Somehow I suspect Abhisit is more clever than to fall for this trap.

[scorecard]

Ousted Thai PM Thaksin dismisses Abhisit claim of early poll

Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjaiva will never dissolve the House of Representatives and call for a fresh election in April as said, former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra said on Saturday.

Thaksin supporters on Saturday morning held a religious ceremony in northern province of Chiang Mai's Sankampaeng district. After the ceremony, Thaksin phone-in to address to his supporters. "There will be no fresh election soon because the government has never done as it had said," Bangkok Post online quoted Thaksin as saying.

The ex-prime minister said he is now doing business in South Africa and has been following the situation in Thailand as he was concerned about the political unrest.

Abhsit said earlier that there is a high possibility that he will dissolve the House of Representatives and call for an election in April. Thaksin also said to his supporters that he has learned how to rapidly develop the country and bring about prosperity to the nation, but this can be done after he can return to homeland.

Continues:

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/7276673.html

Xinhua - January 30, 2011

Yeah, doing business with diamond mines, with possibly the most scaly business owners in the world, the most scaly politicians in the world, and in an industry which possible has the worst in the world scenario for total lack of basic safety and health, trapping labourers into no win, inescapable working conditions.

But this is of course the saviour, who will now apply his magic cure, the man who has now discovered the magic and instant fix, to all of Thailands problems.

I would trust a crocodile more than this nasty rubbish.

[Skywalker69]

Thaksin is obsessed with getting back power and the face he lost.

For him no matter how HIGH he gets, any diminished standing is a loss, and thus bad luck. He may be waist high above all others, but if his belt line slips to their hair level he gets depressed at the lose of stature.

It is far beyond just needing more money, it is beyond just wanting to be top dog, he is obsessed with the lost CONTROL of others he enjoyed, the game is the important thing, judged on numbers of acolytes, and his bank balances. Successful manipulation gives him a mental woody, he needs it or he feels down and incomplete. His whole act speaks loudly of this hubris and obsessiveness. He is one of the most transparently nasty pieces of work that I have seen in some time.

Quote from Animatic "He is one of the most transparently nasty pieces of work that I have seen in some time".

Well said, and I will add: ...and thinks the world, all Thais are too stupid to notice his blatant lies, continuous stepping on his own toes, continuous foot in mouth gaffs, continuous reversals, continuous egging of the naive red shirts: "fight for justice / fight for democracy", when in reality his own history is the exact opposite, and with numerous nasty examples.

"The Demagogue preaches doctrins he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots"

Henry Louis Mencken.