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What's The Deal With Iran?

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Iran and Russia sign $1 bln defence deal - reports

Fri Dec 2, 2005 2:11 PM GMT

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia plans to sell more than $1 billion worth of tactical surface-to-air missiles and other defence hardware to Iran, media reported on Friday.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticl...A-IRAN-ARMS.xml

The Rusians speak up for Iran because they want to get paid. Accounts receivables are worthless in these sort of deals. Just ask the French and Russians about the monies owed them by the Saddam regime.

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EUrine Peein' Keystone Cops ...

... and their bumbling screw-ups. Between things like this and their handling of the situation in Iran, EU incompetence will be the death of us all… :o

Iran Plans to Build a Second Nuclear Plant

By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer Mon Dec 5, 2:20 PM ET

TEHRAN, Iran -

Iran plans to build at least one more nuclear power plant despite international concern over its atomic program, the country's top nuclear negotiator said Monday.

Ali Larijani said he did not expect the plan to affect upcoming nuclear talks with Europe.

"It is part of meeting our electricity needs; it is not a secret issue," he told a news conference,

"We plan to construct two more nuclear power plants," Larijani told reporters, adding that the projects would be open to international bidding.

State-run television reported that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Cabinet ministers had decided Sunday night to build a reactor "based on domestic technology" in Khuzestan province in southwestern Iran.

It was unclear whether Larijani was describing two entirely new plants Monday, or one new plant in addition to the planned Khuzestan facility.

Iranian officials could not be reached for clarification.

Khuzestan is the site of an unfinished French-built power plant where construction was halted after the 1979 Islamic revolution.

Iran's first reactor in the southern town of Bushehr is due to begin generating electricity next year. Iran said last year it would also build a second plant at Bushehr.

Iran is under intense pressure to curb its nuclear program, which the United States and its allies claim is part of an effort to produce weapons. Iran says its program is limited to generating electricity.

Parliament has asked Ahmadinejad for the construction of 20 nuclear power plants. Russia, which built the first Bushehr reactor, has offered to continue helping Iran's nuclear program.

Larijani said Iran would put its new reactor projects up for international bidding, a sign of the country's openness to global scrutiny.

Asked if American companies could submit an offer, he said, "Any foreign company, public or private, could purchase a share and participate in Iran's nuclear program. This is the ultimate level of transparency in Iran's nuclear program."

Larijani said Iran hopes to reach a result in negotiations with Europe within several months. As a signatory to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, Iran deserves the right to build nuclear reactors, he said.

No date has been set for the resumption of Iranian talks with Britain, France and Germany, which broke off in August after Tehran restarted uranium conversion, a precursor to enrichment. Enrichment can produce fuel for either nuclear reactors or weapons.

Iran has said it will not consider a European proposal that its uranium enrichment be moved to Russia to ensure it cannot be secretly used for weapons.

Larijani said Monday those objections should not scuttle the upcoming negotiations.

"Iran and Europe could have a win-win game in the talks; having enrichment on our soil in Iran and assuring Europe that there will be no diversion in Iran's nuclear program," he said.

The negotiator dismissed remarks by former Israeli Prime Minister

Benjamin Netanyahu published Monday that said he would support a pre-emptive strike against Iran's nuclear program.

Israel has repeatedly identified Iran as its biggest threat and dismisses Tehran's claims that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes.

"I advise you not to take it so seriously," Larijani said of Netanyahu's comments. "Iran is powerful enough. It is a difficult target. This is not the first time that Israelis make such comments. But it has never been taken seriously here. Those who quickly lose their temper will quickly get calm.

"Comparing Iran and

Iraq is wrong. If they make such a mistake, they will add to their own problems. Attacking Iran will have a lot of consequences," said Larijani, who is also secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council.

Iran has frozen its enrichment program but it restarted uranium conversion — a step toward enrichment — in August. The

International Atomic Energy Agency has warned Iran that its nuclear program could be referred to the

U.N. Security Council, which has the power to impose sanctions on the country.

On Saturday, Iran approved a bill that would block international inspections of its atomic facilities if it were referred to the Security Council.

"The West should not challenge Iran's nuclear program while the United States says it will take years for Iran to achieve nuclear weapons," Larijani said. "Iran is patient to solve the case wisely but it does not tolerate time-wasting."

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Yeah ... go figure ... suddenly all these marketeers of nuclear technology are reconsidering their plans to deal with this nutcase. At this rate he's gonna be lucky if the Mossad doesn't grease him for all his wild ranting. He is going to find out the hard way just how small of a speck on the world's ass he really is.

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I'm a peacenik by nature and anti nuke in general but its easy to understand why a nation would want to have a nuclear weapon or two....so what's the big fuss about? I guess they have violated the Non Proliferation Treaty but I don't know enough about it to be sure if this is correct. Also, some people say the USofA has violated it too by developing the bunker buster nukes...but again I don't know enough about it.....so what's the deal? To me it just seems like international gun control to try to keep some nations from having the bomb....having one should deter the bully on the block shouldn't it...and shouldn't it deter some other nation from ripping them off?

To be simply direct in reply to this post....

When you are sittng in your lounge watching whatever you watch and your world suddenly dissolves......Could you please come back and tell us why they or anybody should have nukes???

I'm a peacenik by nature and anti nuke in general but its easy to understand why a nation would want to have a nuclear weapon or two....so what's the big fuss about? I guess they have violated the Non Proliferation Treaty but I don't know enough about it to be sure if this is correct. Also, some people say the USofA has violated it too by developing the bunker buster nukes...but again I don't know enough about it.....so what's the deal? To me it just seems like international gun control to try to keep some nations from having the bomb....having one should deter the bully on the block shouldn't it...and shouldn't it deter some other nation from ripping them off?

To be simply direct in reply to this post....

When you are sittng in your lounge watching whatever you watch and your world suddenly dissolves......Could you please come back and tell us why they or anybody should have nukes???

You also might like to ask the Americans that question, if you happen to be in a so called "Rogue State." And happend to on the receiving end of one of their tactical nuclear weapons! Oh no of course I forgot, theyre only developing them for the ticker tape effect.

I'm a peacenik by nature and anti nuke in general but its easy to understand why a nation would want to have a nuclear weapon or two....so what's the big fuss about? I guess they have violated the Non Proliferation Treaty but I don't know enough about it to be sure if this is correct. Also, some people say the USofA has violated it too by developing the bunker buster nukes...but again I don't know enough about it.....so what's the deal? To me it just seems like international gun control to try to keep some nations from having the bomb....having one should deter the bully on the block shouldn't it...and shouldn't it deter some other nation from ripping them off?

To be simply direct in reply to this post....

When you are sittng in your lounge watching whatever you watch and your world suddenly dissolves......Could you please come back and tell us why they or anybody should have nukes???

You also might like to ask the Americans that question, if you happen to be in a so called "Rogue State." And happend to on the receiving end of one of their tactical nuclear weapons! Oh no of course I forgot, theyre only developing them for the ticker tape effect.

I did say they or anybody.....didnt I???....oh yes I did!!!!!..... :o

I'm a peacenik by nature and anti nuke in general but its easy to understand why a nation would want to have a nuclear weapon or two....so what's the big fuss about? I guess they have violated the Non Proliferation Treaty but I don't know enough about it to be sure if this is correct. Also, some people say the USofA has violated it too by developing the bunker buster nukes...but again I don't know enough about it.....so what's the deal? To me it just seems like international gun control to try to keep some nations from having the bomb....having one should deter the bully on the block shouldn't it...and shouldn't it deter some other nation from ripping them off?

To be simply direct in reply to this post....

When you are sittng in your lounge watching whatever you watch and your world suddenly dissolves......Could you please come back and tell us why they or anybody should have nukes???

You also might like to ask the Americans that question, if you happen to be in a so called "Rogue State." And happend to on the receiving end of one of their tactical nuclear weapons! Oh no of course I forgot, theyre only developing them for the ticker tape effect.

When was the last time anyone was on the receiving end of a tactical nuclear weapon?

Lots of terrorists want to give us all the dirty bomb etc.

No Nukes for anyone is the answer... :o

I'm a peacenik by nature and anti nuke in general but its easy to understand why a nation would want to have a nuclear weapon or two....so what's the big fuss about? I guess they have violated the Non Proliferation Treaty but I don't know enough about it to be sure if this is correct. Also, some people say the USofA has violated it too by developing the bunker buster nukes...but again I don't know enough about it.....so what's the deal? To me it just seems like international gun control to try to keep some nations from having the bomb....having one should deter the bully on the block shouldn't it...and shouldn't it deter some other nation from ripping them off?

To be simply direct in reply to this post....

When you are sittng in your lounge watching whatever you watch and your world suddenly dissolves......Could you please come back and tell us why they or anybody should have nukes???

You also might like to ask the Americans that question, if you happen to be in a so called "Rogue State." And happend to on the receiving end of one of their tactical nuclear weapons! Oh no of course I forgot, theyre only developing them for the ticker tape effect.

When was the last time anyone was on the receiving end of a tactical nuclear weapon?

Lots of terrorists want to give us all the dirty bomb etc.

No Nukes for anyone is the answer... :o

[/i]No one has been yet! My point is that the Americans are developing them, are they to be the only ones on this planet with the right to Nuclear Arms? The truth of the matter is that, if you want to have State that is going to be reasonably free from Western cocercion, then you need Nuclear weapons as a deterent. Otherwise you might just be the next state to be invaded, by the Anglo Saxson nanny, telling you that you need freedom and democracy, and we know what is best for you! When there is no balance of power, then there is always an abuse of power.

I'm a peacenik by nature and anti nuke in general but its easy to understand why a nation would want to have a nuclear weapon or two....so what's the big fuss about? I guess they have violated the Non Proliferation Treaty but I don't know enough about it to be sure if this is correct. Also, some people say the USofA has violated it too by developing the bunker buster nukes...but again I don't know enough about it.....so what's the deal? To me it just seems like international gun control to try to keep some nations from having the bomb....having one should deter the bully on the block shouldn't it...and shouldn't it deter some other nation from ripping them off?

To be simply direct in reply to this post....

When you are sittng in your lounge watching whatever you watch and your world suddenly dissolves......Could you please come back and tell us why they or anybody should have nukes???

You also might like to ask the Americans that question, if you happen to be in a so called "Rogue State." And happend to on the receiving end of one of their tactical nuclear weapons! Oh no of course I forgot, theyre only developing them for the ticker tape effect.

When was the last time anyone was on the receiving end of a tactical nuclear weapon?

Lots of terrorists want to give us all the dirty bomb etc.

No Nukes for anyone is the answer... :D

[/i]No one has been yet! My point is that the Americans are developing them, are they to be the only ones on this planet with the right to Nuclear Arms? The truth of the matter is that, if you want to have State that is going to be reasonably free from Western cocercion, then you need Nuclear weapons as a deterent. Otherwise you might just be the next state to be invaded, by the Anglo Saxson nanny, telling you that you need freedom and democracy, and we know what is best for you! When there is no balance of power, then there is always an abuse of power.

:D:o

The truth can make you tired.

Well, it's an Onion-type realty 'truth'. More like a Clash of Civilizations:

World leaders hope Sharon recovers.

Iranian President Hopes Sharon Perishes

"And this is a man who wraps himself in the cloak of a peaceful religion, Islam, and yet you hear remarks like this coming from him," McCormack said. "This regime has isolated the Iranian people from the rest of the world in a matter of months — through its actions and its statements."

Why is it every time someone does or says something really ugly, based on their adherence to a religion founded by a 7th century warrior who proudly called his flock into battle and conquest, someone else refers to that same religion as "peaceful." :o

Iranian President Hopes Sharon Perishes

"And this is a man who wraps himself in the cloak of a peaceful religion, Islam, and yet you hear remarks like this coming from him," McCormack said. "This regime has isolated the Iranian people from the rest of the world in a matter of months — through its actions and its statements."

The Iranian President was one of the leaders of the invasion and hostage taking of the American Embassy in Tehran in '79. That was effectively an invasion of U.S. soil and territory in accordance with international law. That is all anyone needs to know about him and the current Iranian administration.

Iran Removing U.N. seals At Atomic Research Sites

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TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran said on Sunday it was preparing to remove U.N. seals at some nuclear research and development sites, despite strong Western opposition to its decision to resume atomic research halted over two years ago.

Get ready... :o

Here's a prediction: since Iran actually DOES have some nuclear material and capability, addressing the problem will all be done through dithering in the U.N.- because even if we had the troops, the U.S. would never attack a country that it knew to have weapons of mass destruction. Just another way to outline how much of a fraud and a lie and a treasonous, murderous deception the Iraqi adventure was.

"Steven"

the U.S. would never attack a country that it knew to have weapons of mass destruction.

"Steven"

You forget about them Israelis? :o

Even liberal France is going to help the US this time

Nostradamus predicts France gets nuked by u guessed it

There is a good article on National Review about a nuclear Iran that lists some possible scenarios.

"And by the way, these scenarios assume the Iranian leaders are “rational actors” who won’t just wake up one day and decide that they don’t want to live in a world with New York, Washington, D.C., or a variety of other cities. They send their surrogates out to punish the Great Satan, and the rest is God’s will. Or maybe terrorists or a radical faction within the government get hold of the weapons and use them without permission. Would you gamble your life against the bribe level of an Iranian nuclear-weapons manager?"

And after the war, they'll blame Bush for not connecting the dots... :o

'Divine mission' driving Iran's new leader

Must prepare for an Islamic Messiah :o

wiran14.jpg

Yeah, this guy is way out there.

CNN broadcast his extended press conference live in the UK yesterday. While some of what the guy said made sense as the leader of the country, a lot of what he said was just ridiculous in the modern world.

With Saddam out of the way and Arafat taking a dirt nap, it is clear that he envisions himself as the middle east and world leader for Islamic states and Muslims in general.

But he really doesn't have a clue. There is nothing wrong with autonomy and nationlism. But choosing to not play nice with world leaders has consequences, of which he seems to be oblivious.

'Divine mission' driving Iran's new leader

Must prepare for an Islamic Messiah :o

wiran14.jpg

Yeah, this guy is way out there.

CNN broadcast his extended press conference live in the UK yesterday. While some of what the guy said made sense as the leader of the country, a lot of what he said was just ridiculous in the modern world.

With Saddam out of the way and Arafat taking a dirt nap, it is clear that he envisions himself as the middle east and world leader for Islamic states and Muslims in general.

But he really doesn't have a clue. There is nothing wrong with autonomy and nationlism. But choosing to not play nice with world leaders has consequences, of which he seems to be oblivious.

All CNN journalists are now barred from Iran because of a translation error done by CNN during the broadcast of this guy's 2 hour rant against the west.

Now virtually the entire civilized world has vocally stated opposition to the regime's move towards perfecting nuclear technology for energy and weapons:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060116/ap_on_...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

UN sanctions are next, which is not to imply that dog has any teeth left after the Iraq sanctions fiasco.

Hasn't anybody figured out yet why the Israeli's have been so silent on this issue so far? They are not going to allow anything remotely resembling a weapons program to proceed. They will go in and take it out with an airstrike and not think twice about it.

That is as much of a risk to regional destabilization as Iran having the weapons technology in the first place. Better to keep both regimes at bay by preventing any further development in the first place.

This Iranian leader is a nutcase maniac, who wants to lead his country back to a Taliban-like fundamentalist state. This is contrary to the ideals and governments of every prosperous 21st century country.

CNN's simultaneous translation of Ahmadinejad's lengthy news conference on Saturday included the phrase "the use of nuclear weapons is Iran's right."

In fact, what the Iranian president said was that "Iran has the right to nuclear energy," the official IRNA news agency reported. CNN later clarified in an apology on Sunday night.

Iran denies any intention of seeking nuclear weapons, saying it wants atomic technology merely for the generation of electricity.

Iran denies any intention of seeking nuclear weapons, saying it wants atomic technology merely for the generation of electricity.

Yeah .... sure ..... right.

They state publicly that they don't want nuclear weapons.

But privately they are negotiating with every possible supplier for all the ingredients to make and deliver one, including:

- highly sophisticated machined parts that can only be made in a few places in the world.

- specialized guidance systems that have only one purpose, to guide a missle over long distances to a precise location

- enrichment technology to produce larger quantities of U235 that are produced in nature

- processing technology to produce weapons grade Plutonium 239 from U238

- processing technology to extract Plutonium 239 from spent cores of U238 commercial reactors

- etc.

- etc.

- etc.

If anyone has any doubts as to Iran's capability, plans and intentions, please spend a little time reading:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/index.html

Iran acquiring this technology is the next step in escalating the risk of a planned or rogue nuclear weapons attack against the US or US allies.

One the core Islamo-facist goals is to wipe out Israel. What would the world's reaction be to Iran taking 3 or 4 missiles of it's soon to be developed capability, and trying to take out all of Israel in one strike?

What would happen if Israel were to knock 3 of them out of the sky, but the 4th found it's mark in a place like Tel Aviv?

I fear the Israel and the US would have no choice but to do whatever is necessary to remove the current administration from power and kill anyone remotely associated with it or loyal to it. Israel would almost surely retaliate 10-fold.

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