Any Way To Avoid Border Crossing Or Report 90 Days

[MND]

Is there any way to avoid border crossing or reporting every 90 days on a non immigrant Visa O. Can it be "upgraded" in order to avoid this? I mean to have heard that if you show some financial income and marriagal status you can get a year w/o reporting. This should be done be contacting local immigration office. However searcing their homepage I can not find a form that suits? Anybody who has a clue?

Thanks

[Mario2008]

Either you have to leave the country every 90 days or you apply for an extension of stay and report your address every 90 days (which can be done by mail).

The only way to avoid this, is getting Thai nationality.

[Crossy]

In a word, no

If you get a marriage extension you swap your 90 day border runs for 90 day reporting, which can at least be done by post (mostly, some immigration offices seem reluctant).

There are a number of threads regarding how to get a marriage extension, try a forum search.

[lopburi3]

The form used is TM7.

The Police Order 777/2551 provides the criteria and basic requirements for extensions of stay.

Search marriage extension of stay for thousands of postings.

Basic is marriage to a Thai; financials of 40k per month or 400k in Thai account for 2 months and TM7 at cost of 1,900 baht each year and many photo copies of documents. If you stay in Thailand you always have to report address every 90 days to Immigration (but would not have to leave country and can be done by mail).

[MND]

The form used is TM7.

The Police Order 777/2551 provides the criteria and basic requirements for extensions of stay.

Search marriage extension of stay for thousands of postings.

Basic is marriage to a Thai; financials of 40k per month or 400k in Thai account for 2 months and TM7 at cost of 1,900 baht each year and many photo copies of documents. If you stay in Thailand you always have to report address every 90 days to Immigration (but would not have to leave country and can be done by mail).

Thanks to all who replied! I got it now. Have 3 children do they have to meet in person with my wife and I ( as i read on the TM7) that it needs to be handed in personally?

Cheers

[Lite Beer]

You have to take your Wife along with you to be interviewed by the Immigration Officer.

You will both sign statements.

(6) In case of marriage with a Thai lady, the husband who is an alien must have an average annual income of not less than 40,000 baht per month or a money deposit in a local Thai bank of not less than 400,000 baht for the past 2 months for expenses within a year.

Letter from Thai Bank showing balance and up to date bank book.

OR.

Letter from your Embassy showing income.

Marriage Certificate

Marriage Registry entry.

Wife's Tabbien Baan and ID Card.

Your Passport.

Copies of everything.

Photos of you and your Wife in and around the house.

A map showing the way to your house.

Passport size photos and 1,900 Baht fee.

Take your Wife to be interviewed.

You will be given a 30 day under consideration stamp.

Go back in a month and get the remainder.

[Mario2008]

Thanks to all who replied! I got it now. Have 3 children do they have to meet in person with my wife and I ( as i read on the TM7) that it needs to be handed in personally?

Cheers

Do you mean that the children in Thailand on a foreign passport as you?

[Spoonman]

Letter from Canadian Embassy showing income.

Bizzarre, is this a requirement for everyone ?

[wandrinstar]

Note that an account in joint names is not acceptable.I got picked up on it after presenting a joint A/cc for years.They gave me the Year even so,,and i changed the Book,and sent them a Photo Copy of the new Amount of 800. 000. all on its little own.Just another hoop we jump through.

[lopburi3]

Letter from Canadian Embassy showing income.

Bizzarre, is this a requirement for everyone ?

Nope - just Canadians if using income method - suspect LB copy & paste from a previous answer.

[billd766]

Letter from Canadian Embassy showing income.

Bizzarre, is this a requirement for everyone ?

It seems to be getting that way for every nationality now.

I have always had to prove my income with pension letters to the UK Embassy who ( for only 2,340 baht) will write a letter confirming that they have seen the letters and it is verified.

That 2,340 baht is for looking at the letters and typing one up in return which takes 1 person about 10 minutes but at Thai Immigration for a retirement visa extension it takes about 30 minutes and costs only 1,900 baht. The marriage extension takes much longer as there is more paperwork and you have to return 30 days later but the price is the same.

Sadly the lady at the Embassy is on a salary and so gets nothing of the fee.

Other Embassies, the USA and I think the Australian used to accept your personal statement of income without verification but they did warn you that if you lied and were caught it was your problem.

I believe that from the last month or so even those Embassies will require proof before they sign the letter.

[lopburi3]

Quite the opposite actually. More Embassies are adopting the US/Oz model and only confirming your signature on the dotted line as they have no valid way to confirm any documents submitted are in fact real (other than your word). Immigration, if they see fit, can request supporting documents. And yes you are making that legal signature in front of your Government representative so if untrue it could subject you to prosecution in your home country.

As for the quote it is mentioned because the poster is not Canadian to anyone's knowledge.

[MND]

Thanks to all who replied! I got it now. Have 3 children do they have to meet in person with my wife and I ( as i read on the TM7) that it needs to be handed in personally?

Cheers

Do you mean that the children in Thailand on a foreign passport as you?

Yes I mean our 3 children carrying a forreign passport - they stay with us in Thailand now alos on a Non imiigrant O - guess we have to bring them to immigration office in poerson as well?

[lopburi3]

If below age 15 there is no overstay fine involved once here but to extend as you yes they would also have to present full sets of paperwork (so most immigration officers seem to advise just overstay if young). I would ask them for current policy.

[Mario2008]

Yes, that would be the case. They need their own permission to stay, although for children under 15 there is no overstay fine.

If your wife is their mother, your children are Thai also.

[Lite Beer]

Letter from Canadian Embassy showing income.

Bizzarre, is this a requirement for everyone ?

Nope - just Canadians if using income method - suspect LB copy & paste from a previous answer.

Yep. After years of typing that out I decided to cut and paste.

Should have checked the original first.

[Spoonman]

hehehehehehehe it's all good LB, was just a friendly poke at what was a an obvious typo.

[MND]

You have to take your Wife along with you to be interviewed by the Immigration Officer.

You will both sign statements.

(6) In case of marriage with a Thai lady, the husband who is an alien must have an average annual income of not less than 40,000 baht per month or a money deposit in a local Thai bank of not less than 400,000 baht for the past 2 months for expenses within a year.

Letter from Thai Bank showing balance and up to date bank book.

OR.

Letter from your Embassy showing income.

Marriage Certificate

Marriage Registry entry.

Wife's Tabbien Baan and ID Card.

Your Passport.

Copies of everything.

Photos of you and your Wife in and around the house.

A map showing the way to your house.

Passport size photos and 1,900 Baht fee.

Take your Wife to be interviewed.

You will be given a 30 day under consideration stamp.

Go back in a month and get the remainder.

I called an agent today who told me that the amount is 800.000 bath - this amount is also mentioned by a member below. Unfortunately the acc is in the nam eof my wife, so seems I have to open an account and do another 800.000 or transfer the first 800.000. Does the money have to be untouched for a year - that is never below 800K ?

thanks

[Mario2008]

Is your wife Thai? If she is, you only need to show 400,000 baht. The money must be there at least 2 months before applying. After you have the extension you can use the money again, till you need it for the next extension and you need to have it in a bank account in Thailand for at least 2 months prior again.

If your wife is not Thai and you are 50 or older, you would need 800,000 baht in the bank.

The money has to be in an account in your name only.

[MND]

<br />Is your wife Thai? If she is, you only need to show 400,000 baht. The money must be there at least 2 months before applying. After you have the extension you can use the money again, till you need it for the next extension and you need to have it in a bank account in Thailand for at least 2 months prior again.<br /><br />If your wife is not Thai and you are 50 or older, you would need 800,000 baht in the bank.<br /><br />The money has to be in an account in your name only.<br />

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Thanks you guys really help!

There is the twus to my case that my wife is born Thai but changed citizenship 6 years a go holding a oversea passport now, but she still has her thai ID card. We where told at the Thai embassy in Europe that the Thai ID card was sufficient for the Thai authorities to coinsider her Thai and was told the amount 400.000 for extention step, however i realize we are in a grey zone area and better make the 800k.

again really appreciate your hekp!

[MND]

<br />Is your wife Thai? If she is, you only need to show 400,000 baht. The money must be there at least 2 months before applying. After you have the extension you can use the money again, till you need it for the next extension and you need to have it in a bank account in Thailand for at least 2 months prior again.<br /><br />If your wife is not Thai and you are 50 or older, you would need 800,000 baht in the bank.<br /><br />The money has to be in an account in your name only.<br />

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Thanks you guys really help!

There is the twus to my case that my wife is born Thai but changed citizenship 6 years a go holding a oversea passport now, but she still has her thai ID card. We where told at the Thai embassy in Europe that the Thai ID card was sufficient for the Thai authorities to coinsider her Thai and was told the amount 400.000 for extention step, however i realize we are in a grey zone area and better make the 800k.

again really appreciate your hekp!

And sorry for the above spelling, I actually can spell but not hot the right keys!

[lopburi3]

Your wife needs to enter Thailand as a Thai to use the 400k method and the marriage paperwork would have to be registered here (if not Thai). As it is now it seems she will also have to obtain a non immigrant O visa and then a dependent extension of stay to match your retirement extension. Retirement is easier in the long run if you can afford the financials. But your wife should check into obtaining Thai citizenship unless her second citizenship forbids it.

[MND]

Your wife needs to enter Thailand as a Thai to use the 400k method and the marriage paperwork would have to be registered here (if not Thai). As it is now it seems she will also have to obtain a non immigrant O visa and then a dependent extension of stay to match your retirement extension. Retirement is easier in the long run if you can afford the financials. But your wife should check into obtaining Thai citizenship unless her second citizenship forbids it.

My Wife and I and our 3 children are all here on a non immigrant O Visa. I am not 50 yet.

[lopburi3]

In that case you can not use retirement.

[lopburi3]

You are aware Thailand does not have an issue with dual citizenship? Did you wife actually renounce her Thai citizenship to Thailand? It does not sound so if she has valid ID card. So she should be on a home register, obtain current Thai passport and make a trip and return using that (actually an old passport could likely be used, or even ID card, to return if she has one). Once she is Thai and living in Thailand the Thai wife option would be open to you.

If your country does not forbid (you did not answer) children should also obtain dual passports from Thai Consulate in your home country (register birth at that Embassy as first step). Are you all planning to remain in Thailand forever? Or is this just an extended trip? We took your first post as a marriage to Thai (which it is) but you did not mention these other factors (which changes things a lot from what it appeared). People can most likely help you here if they know the details as many have been in similar situations.

[wandrinstar]

Regarding the 4K Bht, you will not be issued a year Marry visa on the spot.For that you need to show 8K Bht.This 4K can take a couple of visits because its quite often not ready on the return date they give you, roughly a Month later .A pain in the Bum if the office you report must to is 300 Klics away,as happens upcountry.I have an Immo Office 15 Min's away, but I'm in the wrong Province, and must do a 600 Klic round trip,.T.I.T

[Mario2008]

Regarding the 4K Bht, you will not be issued a year Marry visa on the spot.For that you need to show 8K Bht.This 4K can take a couple of visits because its quite often not ready on the return date they give you, roughly a Month later .A pain in the Bum if the office you report must to is 300 Klics away,as happens upcountry.I have an Immo Office 15 Min's away, but I'm in the wrong Province, and must do a 600 Klic round trip,.T.I.T

Since the OP is not 50 or older, he can not use the retirement option of 800,000 baht.

[lopburi3]

The marriage visa is never issued on the spot regardless of how much money you show - it must be approved in Bangkok meeting first. And for the last few years approval has been done within 30 days in almost all cases from reporting here - it used to take longer (often trying to confirm bank deposit over 400k from old reporting - but now that deposit is in account two months prior to application that does not seem to be an issue).

[wandrinstar]

I beg to differ, i got mine in Jomtien,a Retirement,On the spot..,,,If 8000 is the same as 4000.why bother then for a Marry Visa, just have the 400000 K and blow he rest.. One thing i do know for a fact Offices differ, even their attitude to some with all the right papers."At the Officers Discretion" should not be ignored, like it or not. Ive Never been annoyed by them anyway, just phone first ask if there's any new ideas and tun up,and ask for whoever you spoke to. Years ago C.M. made a complete boo boo of my application.and gave me a 3 Month Bonus. Never been to an Office in Bkk in 27years, i tried but got lost.

[Mario2008]

I beg to differ, i got mine in Jomtien,a Retirement,On the spot..,,,If 8000 is the same as 4000.why bother then for a Marry Visa, just have the 400000 K and blow he rest.. One thing i do know for a fact Offices differ, even their attitude to some with all the right papers."At the Officers Discretion" should not be ignored, like it or not. Ive Never been annoyed by them anyway, just phone first ask if there's any new ideas and tun up,and ask for whoever you spoke to. Years ago C.M. made a complete boo boo of my application.and gave me a 3 Month Bonus. Never been to an Office in Bkk in 27years, i tried but got lost.

800,000 is for people applying for an extension based on retirement, 400,000 is for people applying for an extension based on being a family member of a Thai national.