Opposition leader ready to disclose information on Thaksin’s alleged secret talks

[thaicbr]

Or maybe the info is in the same place as the videos depicting soldiers slaughtering poor red shirt protestors. As Jaturporn and I think Chalerm claimed to have. Oh what was it. A YEAR AGO.

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[waza]

The rumour is he offered them $50,000,000 of government money to cease operations and the Yala bombings was their answer.

Yala MP Thavorn Senneam cited informed sources as saying that Thaksin recently talked with the Pattani United Liberation Organisation (PULO) in a neighbouring country. The insurgent movement however rejected the ousted premier's offer to give it money in exchange for an end of eight-year insurgency in Thailand's southern border region. The failed talks reportedly led to recent violence which rocked the region.

http://www.thaivisa....ith-insurgents/

This is a translation of Thaksin denial of the meeting.......

กระทั่ง “ทักษิณ” ได้ให้สัมภาษณ์กับสื่อระหว่างพักอยู่ที่ประเทศฮ่องกง (8 เม.ย.) ว่า “ผมมีสิทธิ์เกี่ยวข้องอะไรที่จะไปพูดคุย ผมมันก็แค่คนตกงาน สิ่งที่ผมทำได้ คือ การขอความช่วยเหลือจากประเทศเพื่อนบ้าน เพื่อป้องกันการก่อการร้าย” (“What rights do I have to talk, I am only an unemployed person. What I can do is to ask for assistance from neighbouring countries in order for protection from terrorism”) and ”ถ้าถามว่าควรมีการเจรจาไหม ผมเห็นว่าสมควรอย่างยิ่ง สงครามต้องสิ้นสุดกันที่โต๊ะเจรจา ไม่ใช่อยู่ในสมรภูมิ” (“If you ask me whether we should negotiate or not, I think that is very appropriate. War must end at the negotiating table, not on the battlefield”).

Thaksin has reportedly visited Malaysia several times this year to hold meetings with both Prime Minister Najib Razak and former premier Mahathir Muhammad. According to several well-placed sources, these meetings have resulted in older-generation separatists from various factions resident in Malaysia being strong-armed by Malaysian Special Branch police into attending meetings both with representatives of SBPAC chief Thawee and finally with Thaksin himself to discuss ways of addressing the grievances of Thailand’s Malay Muslim community.

http://asiancorrespo...ts-in-malaysia/

I found this a very interesting comment especially when we consider this..............

Malaysian Police Special Branch Division director Datuk Seri Akhil Bulat was awarded the Knight Commander (Second Class) of the Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant at the same ceremony.

The Most Noble Order of the Crown of Thailand was established in 1869 by King Rama V. The order originally had seven classes but the special class was added by King Rama VI in 1918.

The medals are conferred based on outstanding services to Thailand.

http://www.themalays...ai-royal-award/

Edited April 24, 2012 by waza

[Nickymaster]

No offence ment, no apology needed

Still you had to add the k. Jatuporn part, you really had to. Well personally I think that's a load of b... K. Jatuporn never delivers on accusations, whereas the "Thaksin alleged secret talks" start to get a clearer shape, or would if it wasn't for all smokescreens people like to throw up

May I remind you that the opposition didn't deliver at his farewell speech and hasn't delivered here, except he will, he says, privately.

Surely the existence of a photograph of Thaksin cozying up to an insurgent leader, which the democrats insist happened, can be published to the world and his dog and this wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to the fact that apparently Abhisit regards "this is an important matter and the existing problem is related to several ongoing matters." .Whatever that means.

These accusations were made by the democrats on or around the 5th April and still nothing.

May I remind you that these accusations already start to get a more distinct form even with a 4 day holiday period & mourning/cremation ceremony today. Songkhran is coming, Pheu Thai wants to push throughdiscuss some proposals which are already formulated but of course not decided.

Expect some later next week. Either more info, or k. Noppadon finally filing a defamation case for k. Thaksin.

BTW "opposition didn't deliver at his farewell speech" should probably be interpreted as "the government stepping down didn't deliver at the PM's farewell speech", whatever that means

It's been over two weeks now, any photos appeared? Other earth shattering truth? Or just another democrat smear campaign?

Like rubl stated correctly:

"Mind you if it's a 'smear campaign' I would have expected legal advisor k. Noppadon, or some cabinet ministers, or some Pheu Thai MP's or the like to have filed a defamation case against some Democrats already".

Or maybe they forgot.. Like they forget many things when they are spending time serving the pay-master.

[sparebox2]

If Mark/Dems knew, they would already have disclose of it already.

He/They didn't know.

[phiphidon]

Like rubl stated correctly:

"Mind you if it's a 'smear campaign' I would have expected legal advisor k. Noppadon, or some cabinet ministers, or some Pheu Thai MP's or the like to have filed a defamation case against some Democrats already".

Or maybe they forgot.. Like they forget many things when they are spending time serving the pay-master.

I'm sure rubl is good at his job but I don't think that includes being able to read minds. That includes Jaturporn and Noppadons.

It's not just Abhisit, another one of his party MPs insists that there was a photograph of Thaksin embracing one of the Insurgent leaders on its web page - this has not been produced.

Lets face it the democrats were trying to use the Yala bomb and the others to discredit Thaksin and the government by somehow trying to link him to private talks with the insurgents that had gone wrong and resulted in the bomb.

Yes, the democrat party and its leader are capable of dirty politics.

[Skywalker69]

The rumour is he offered them $50,000,000 of government money to cease operations and the Yala bombings was their answer.

Yala MP Thavorn Senneam cited informed sources as saying that Thaksin recently talked with the Pattani United Liberation Organisation (PULO) in a neighbouring country. The insurgent movement however rejected the ousted premier's offer to give it money in exchange for an end of eight-year insurgency in Thailand's southern border region. The failed talks reportedly led to recent violence which rocked the region.

http://www.thaivisa....ith-insurgents/

This is a translation of Thaksin denial of the meeting.......

กระทั่ง “ทักษิณ” ได้ให้สัมภาษณ์กับสื่อระหว่างพักอยู่ที่ประเทศฮ่องกง (8 เม.ย.) ว่า “ผมมีสิทธิ์เกี่ยวข้องอะไรที่จะไปพูดคุย ผมมันก็แค่คนตกงาน สิ่งที่ผมทำได้ คือ การขอความช่วยเหลือจากประเทศเพื่อนบ้าน เพื่อป้องกันการก่อการร้าย” (“What rights do I have to talk, I am only an unemployed person. What I can do is to ask for assistance from neighbouring countries in order for protection from terrorism”) and ”ถ้าถามว่าควรมีการเจรจาไหม ผมเห็นว่าสมควรอย่างยิ่ง สงครามต้องสิ้นสุดกันที่โต๊ะเจรจา ไม่ใช่อยู่ในสมรภูมิ” (“If you ask me whether we should negotiate or not, I think that is very appropriate. War must end at the negotiating table, not on the battlefield”).

Thaksin has reportedly visited Malaysia several times this year to hold meetings with both Prime Minister Najib Razak and former premier Mahathir Muhammad. According to several well-placed sources, these meetings have resulted in older-generation separatists from various factions resident in Malaysia being strong-armed by Malaysian Special Branch police into attending meetings both with representatives of SBPAC chief Thawee and finally with Thaksin himself to discuss ways of addressing the grievances of Thailand’s Malay Muslim community.

http://asiancorrespo...ts-in-malaysia/

I found this a very interesting comment especially when we consider this..............

Malaysian Police Special Branch Division director Datuk Seri Akhil Bulat was awarded the Knight Commander (Second Class) of the Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant at the same ceremony.

The Most Noble Order of the Crown of Thailand was established in 1869 by King Rama V. The order originally had seven classes but the special class was added by King Rama VI in 1918.

The medals are conferred based on outstanding services to Thailand.

http://www.themalays...ai-royal-award/

Thaksin work really hard to try to come back as a hero.

[Nickymaster]

Like rubl stated correctly:

"Mind you if it's a 'smear campaign' I would have expected legal advisor k. Noppadon, or some cabinet ministers, or some Pheu Thai MP's or the like to have filed a defamation case against some Democrats already".

Or maybe they forgot.. Like they forget many things when they are spending time serving the pay-master.

I'm sure rubl is good at his job but I don't think that includes being able to read minds. That includes Jaturporn and Noppadons.

It's not just Abhisit, another one of his party MPs insists that there was a photograph of Thaksin embracing one of the Insurgent leaders on its web page - this has not been produced.

Lets face it the democrats were trying to use the Yala bomb and the others to discredit Thaksin and the government by somehow trying to link him to private talks with the insurgents that had gone wrong and resulted in the bomb.

Yes, the democrat party and its leader are capable of dirty politics.

I believe most of the thai politicians are capable of dirty politics but (became a multi USD billionaire when in office) Thaksin is 1 of the best at it. But Thaksin could have been much better at dirty politics if he wouldn't have made (and is still making) the assupmtion that everybody is stupid and has an IQ and memory of a donut.

[pastitche]

Like rubl stated correctly:

"Mind you if it's a 'smear campaign' I would have expected legal advisor k. Noppadon, or some cabinet ministers, or some Pheu Thai MP's or the like to have filed a defamation case against some Democrats already".

Or maybe they forgot.. Like they forget many things when they are spending time serving the pay-master.

I'm sure rubl is good at his job but I don't think that includes being able to read minds. That includes Jaturporn and Noppadons.

It's not just Abhisit, another one of his party MPs insists that there was a photograph of Thaksin embracing one of the Insurgent leaders on its web page - this has not been produced.

Lets face it the democrats were trying to use the Yala bomb and the others to discredit Thaksin and the government by somehow trying to link him to private talks with the insurgents that had gone wrong and resulted in the bomb.

Yes, the democrat party and its leader are capable of dirty politics.

I believe most of the thai politicians are capable of dirty politics but (became a multi USD billionaire when in office) Thaksin is 1 of the best at it. But Thaksin could have been much better at dirty politics if he wouldn't have made (and is still making) the assupmtion that everybody is stupid and has an IQ and memory of a donut.

There appears to be no real evidence that Thaksin met with the southern insurgents and no evidence of why the bombings took place when they did, other than the usual TVF fantasising.

Talking of fantasising - you claim that Thaksin is a USD multi Billionaire. Where did you get that? Not from Buchholz's signature I trust

[Nickymaster]

Like rubl stated correctly:

"Mind you if it's a 'smear campaign' I would have expected legal advisor k. Noppadon, or some cabinet ministers, or some Pheu Thai MP's or the like to have filed a defamation case against some Democrats already".

Or maybe they forgot.. Like they forget many things when they are spending time serving the pay-master.

I'm sure rubl is good at his job but I don't think that includes being able to read minds. That includes Jaturporn and Noppadons.

It's not just Abhisit, another one of his party MPs insists that there was a photograph of Thaksin embracing one of the Insurgent leaders on its web page - this has not been produced.

Lets face it the democrats were trying to use the Yala bomb and the others to discredit Thaksin and the government by somehow trying to link him to private talks with the insurgents that had gone wrong and resulted in the bomb.

Yes, the democrat party and its leader are capable of dirty politics.

I believe most of the thai politicians are capable of dirty politics but (became a multi USD billionaire when in office) Thaksin is 1 of the best at it. But Thaksin could have been much better at dirty politics if he wouldn't have made (and is still making) the assupmtion that everybody is stupid and has an IQ and memory of a donut.

There appears to be no real evidence that Thaksin met with the southern insurgents and no evidence of why the bombings took place when they did, other than the usual TVF fantasising.

Talking of fantasising - you claim that Thaksin is a USD multi Billionaire. Where did you get that? Not from Buchholz's signature I trust

I didn't say Thaksin met insurgents from the south. I only said that he knows dirty politics very well. Completely different story.

Yes I claim that WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE he became a multi USD billionaire. How much did he get for his AIS shares? And then he still has/had many other businesses.

Or are you are trying to say that all the shares belonged to:

his daughters?

his son?

his wife?

his drivers?

his maids?

his cousins?

his gardener?

the massage girl who always comes on Sunday night?

Instead of spending your time accusing me of fantasising, please spend your time learning how to read and do research.

Edited April 24, 2012 by Nickymaster

[h90]

Surely if Thaksin or anyone else can get a group of muslims to stop bombing innocent people anywhere in the world that has to be a good thing, as long as it's for real of course and not just a sham like the war on drugs.

and if he told them something different?

[h90]

Where is the information now....

Abhisit did you lie?

[TAWP]

If any side has info on the other, disclose it.

I find these 'we will release info [but it never is done]' sessions pathetic, be it by Jutaporn or anyone else.

[phiphidon]

If any side has info on the other, disclose it.

I find these 'we will release info [but it never is done]' sessions pathetic, be it by Jutaporn or anyone else.

And unfortunately aided and abetted by a press who, rarely it seems, bother to follow up their own "stories".