Chuwit: PM Yingluck Should Ask Family About Gambling Den

[Ferangled]

Chuvit said he would lodge this issue as an agenda item in any future no-confidence debate against the Yingluck government.

It takes some real minerals to campaign like Chuwit does in this political climate and background corruption. He understands that to kill the Hydra there is no point kicking it in the knees, you have to cut off its heads to stop it. History is made of heroic individuals like that. Good luck to him.

History is full of heroic massage parlour tycoons? Really?

I love the way you guys will get behind anyone, no matter how dubious their morality, if their agenda fits your own... it shows real...err... what's the word? Moral fibre? No... hypocrisy.

[h90]

There is no more casino in Phet Soi 5.

Those are old photo during Mark's time.

Since Yingluck took over, the casino was closed due to lack of politician protection.

And of course there was no casino during Thaksins time

[Valentine]

Chuvit said he would lodge this issue as an agenda item in any future no-confidence debate against the Yingluck government.

It takes some real minerals to campaign like Chuwit does in this political climate and background corruption. He understands that to kill the Hydra there is no point kicking it in the knees, you have to cut off its heads to stop it. History is made of heroic individuals like that. Good luck to him.

History is full of heroic massage parlour tycoons? Really?

I love the way you guys will get behind anyone, no matter how dubious their morality, if their agenda fits your own... it shows real...err... what's the word? Moral fibre? No... hypocrisy.

A leopard cannot change its spots but there are people who can & do reform. Whether or not K. Chuwit has genuinely reformed or not is pure conjecture.

[animatic]

Stands back in amazement!

Chuvit has really thrown the cat amongst the pigeons now. I hope he has a good security detail and a good set of bullet proof vests. It makes me wonder why the Thaksin governments have never just legalized casino's, but then they probably realize that would lead to the utter ruination of the country, as the Thai's seem to have a propensity for gambling that makes even the chinese look meek. Good luck to Chavit, he deserves a medal and every vote he gets.

Indeed this last Euro 2012 has been the ruination of several about here.

[animatic]

Allegedly, the den has been operating for 20+ years.

Pehaps some additional questions should be asked;

How does a gambling den run during multiple Democrat and military controlled governments?

How does an alleged "Thaksin" controlled gambling den operate in the Democrat stronghold of Bangkok where the governor detests all things Thaksin?

If the gambling den has been around for 20+years, then surely the Democrat regime under Abhisit, which was no friend of the Thaksin family, would have done something, since Mr. Abhisit was so "clean".

The gambling den might or might not be run by a Thaksin relative. If it is, that doesn't mean the Thaksin relative might not be one of the family outcasts.

Gambling dens in Thailand do not survive for 20 years unless there are powerful protectors and those protectors would have been around long before a man named Thaksin was elected PM.

Of course, this all assumes that there is even a gambling den. To date, Chuvit has made all sorts of accusations, yet he is never able to back it up with actual evidence.

Before, the Nation broke the story, why didn't someone go and take pictures of the valet parking, or the vehicles? Why didn't one of the Nation's journalists knock on the door and ask if there was gambling inside?

Lots of allegations, but no evidence presented.

And before anyone says, you go knock on the gambling den door, I say, Nationmedia has its own media facilities, why not run with the story, as it would have embarrassed the government had the story been substantiated.

Why why why. Who knows if its true. But nothing can be closed down unless the police close it and on past experience they don't want to as it upsets their income stream.

It's like in Pattaya were the Navy do more drug and gambling busts than the police

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Family outcasts LOL, that one really takes the cake.

If Oak and Payup aren't cast out,

what does it take to be a Sinawatra clan outcast?

[Ferangled]

Chuvit said he would lodge this issue as an agenda item in any future no-confidence debate against the Yingluck government.

It takes some real minerals to campaign like Chuwit does in this political climate and background corruption. He understands that to kill the Hydra there is no point kicking it in the knees, you have to cut off its heads to stop it. History is made of heroic individuals like that. Good luck to him.

History is full of heroic massage parlour tycoons? Really?

I love the way you guys will get behind anyone, no matter how dubious their morality, if their agenda fits your own... it shows real...err... what's the word? Moral fibre? No... hypocrisy.

A leopard cannot change its spots but there are people who can & do reform. Whether or not K. Chuwit has genuinely reformed or not is pure conjecture.

Yes I'm sure with billions of baht in his bank accounts already earned from illegal prostitution, reform comes easy.

Much like the bank robber that having made his big heist, retires from the life of crime and sits back to live off the proceeds... is that what you'd call a reformed criminal?

The guy self admittedly ran a notorious prostitution racket, existing through bribery and corruption, has never served any real time for it and is now pointing his fingers at the corrupt businesses of others, namely illegal gambling dens?

What represents a bigger issue in Thailand, illegal gambling or prostitution and the exploitation of women from poor, rural families? Pot calling the kettle black springs to mind...

[MikeOboe57]

[...]

what does it take to be a Sinawatra clan outcast?

Well that's easy. Being a decent, hard working and law abiding citizen.

[waza]

Ok so now Yingluck has a location to take her sign................

[Buchholz]

Family outcasts LOL, that one really takes the cake.

If Oak and Payup aren't cast out,

what does it take to be a Sinawatra clan outcast?

being honest and not greedy

.

[waza]

Allegedly, the den has been operating for 20+ years.

Pehaps some additional questions should be asked;

How does a gambling den run during multiple Democrat and military controlled governments?

How does an alleged "Thaksin" controlled gambling den operate in the Democrat stronghold of Bangkok where the governor detests all things Thaksin?

If the gambling den has been around for 20+years, then surely the Democrat regime under Abhisit, which was no friend of the Thaksin family, would have done something, since Mr. Abhisit was so "clean".

The gambling den might or might not be run by a Thaksin relative. If it is, that doesn't mean the Thaksin relative might not be one of the family outcasts.

Gambling dens in Thailand do not survive for 20 years unless there are powerful protectors and those protectors would have been around long before a man named Thaksin was elected PM.

Of course, this all assumes that there is even a gambling den. To date, Chuvit has made all sorts of accusations, yet he is never able to back it up with actual evidence.

Before, the Nation broke the story, why didn't someone go and take pictures of the valet parking, or the vehicles? Why didn't one of the Nation's journalists knock on the door and ask if there was gambling inside?

Lots of allegations, but no evidence presented.

And before anyone says, you go knock on the gambling den door, I say, Nationmedia has its own media facilities, why not run with the story, as it would have embarrassed the government had the story been substantiated.

The flamboyant MP also named other dens in Bangkok: Otto Den, Phatthanakan 77 Den and King Phet Den, whose operation he said was recorded on Monday night in a video clip.

What about the video he presented?

Edited July 4, 2012 by waza

[Yunla]

History is full of heroic massage parlour tycoons? Really?

I love the way you guys will get behind anyone, no matter how dubious their morality, if their agenda fits your own... it shows real...err... what's the word? Moral fibre? No... hypocrisy.

Thai massage is an ancient profession that dates back thousands of years. Its certainly been around these parts a lot longer than you or I have. Hypocrisy is a lot nicer word than what could be used to describe people visiting a foreign land and condemning its ancient ways.

I said history is made of heroic figures, and Chuwit's actions are in my opinion courageous just like slaying Medusa and all her evil little wizards too.

Actually the last time I saw Chuwit he was making public the flood-related crimes of looting and mismanagement of the relief supplies etc. which also put him in the line of fire from the noble souls who steal relief equipment from a flood-stricken country. I immediately decided he was very heroic in his wellington-boots.

Edited July 4, 2012 by Yunla

[Pops]

Allegedly, the den has been operating for 20+ years.

Pehaps some additional questions should be asked;

How does a gambling den run during multiple Democrat and military controlled governments?

How does an alleged "Thaksin" controlled gambling den operate in the Democrat stronghold of Bangkok where the governor detests all things Thaksin?

If the gambling den has been around for 20+years, then surely the Democrat regime under Abhisit, which was no friend of the Thaksin family, would have done something, since Mr. Abhisit was so "clean".

The gambling den might or might not be run by a Thaksin relative. If it is, that doesn't mean the Thaksin relative might not be one of the family outcasts.

Gambling dens in Thailand do not survive for 20 years unless there are powerful protectors and those protectors would have been around long before a man named Thaksin was elected PM.

Of course, this all assumes that there is even a gambling den. To date, Chuvit has made all sorts of accusations, yet he is never able to back it up with actual evidence.

Before, the Nation broke the story, why didn't someone go and take pictures of the valet parking, or the vehicles? Why didn't one of the Nation's journalists knock on the door and ask if there was gambling inside?

Lots of allegations, but no evidence presented.

And before anyone says, you go knock on the gambling den door, I say, Nationmedia has its own media facilities, why not run with the story, as it would have embarrassed the government had the story been substantiated.

Don't be so arrogant and pretend to know how power structures work in Thailand.

You think really think that Taksin only had power, after he became PM ??

Think again.

[webfact]

Chuwit risking libel for linking Thaksin's sister to gambling den

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Rak Thailand Party leader Chuwit Kamolvisit will be targetted for libel if he continues to link a gambling den to a younger sister of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, legal adviser Noppadon Pattama said on Wednesday.

Chuwit earlier mentioned the initials of individuals close to Thaksin and Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra for involving in the gambling den located in Soi Kingphet 5, off New Phetchaburi Road.

Noppadon said Yaowaret Shinawatra, a Thaksin's sibling and elder sister to Yingluck, had no linkage to any illegal venue as alleged.

Yaowaret had divorced Weerachai Wongnapachant for about 20 years, he said.

According to Chuwit, the man with Wrch initials had the control over the gambling den.

Yaowaret is presently a businesswoman and involved in the Pheu Thai Party overseeing the southern consituencies. She served as the president of the National Council of Women of Thailand when Thaksin was in power.

-- The Nation 2012-07-04

[billd766]

Allegedly, the den has been operating for 20+ years.

Pehaps some additional questions should be asked;

How does a gambling den run during multiple Democrat and military controlled governments?

How does an alleged "Thaksin" controlled gambling den operate in the Democrat stronghold of Bangkok where the governor detests all things Thaksin?

If the gambling den has been around for 20+years, then surely the Democrat regime under Abhisit, which was no friend of the Thaksin family, would have done something, since Mr. Abhisit was so "clean".

The gambling den might or might not be run by a Thaksin relative. If it is, that doesn't mean the Thaksin relative might not be one of the family outcasts.

Gambling dens in Thailand do not survive for 20 years unless there are powerful protectors and those protectors would have been around long before a man named Thaksin was elected PM.

Of course, this all assumes that there is even a gambling den. To date, Chuvit has made all sorts of accusations, yet he is never able to back it up with actual evidence.

Before, the Nation broke the story, why didn't someone go and take pictures of the valet parking, or the vehicles? Why didn't one of the Nation's journalists knock on the door and ask if there was gambling inside?

Lots of allegations, but no evidence presented.

And before anyone says, you go knock on the gambling den door, I say, Nationmedia has its own media facilities, why not run with the story, as it would have embarrassed the government had the story been substantiated.

Why why why. Who knows if its true. But nothing can be closed down unless the police close it and on past experience they don't want to as it upsets their income stream.

It's like in Pattaya were the Navy do more drug and gambling busts than the police

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Family outcasts LOL, that one really takes the cake.

If Oak and Payup aren't cast out,

what does it take to be a Sinawatra clan outcast?

Honesty, decency, good morals?

[sjaak327]

Surprised he didn't order to raze the place, he's certainly has some prior experience with that. I guess he doesn't own the land.

[DLock]

I like Chuwit. He is Chinese/Thai and got a masters in the US. He can't be all bad. Plus my old girlfriend used to work for him. She was a clean woman. Always smelled like she just stepped out of the shower.

You obviously have good taste in women, she was probably so clean and sweet smelling because he provided daily soapy bubble baths to all his employees. He's a caring and conscientious guy.

Chuwit is not Thai/Chinese.

He is 100% pure Chinese (both parents are 100% pure Chinese).

So are his wives.

So all her children are also 100% pure Chinese.

You are wrong on all counts.

You have no credibility.

Your assertion that the Casino is no longer operating has no merit.

That is all.

[Buchholz]

The flamboyant MP also named other dens in Bangkok: Otto Den, Phatthanakan 77 Den and King Phet Den, whose operation he said was recorded on Monday night in a video clip.

What about the video he presented?

Those people around the green felt table weren't gambling; it's just some harmless fortune-telling going on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z67wvHiwFSg&feature=relmfu

And those computer gaming machines aren't for gambling; it's just some harmless Solitaire-playing.

Edited July 4, 2012 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

Chuwit earlier mentioned the initials of individuals close to Thaksin and Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra for involving in the gambling den located in Soi Kingphet 5, off New Phetchaburi Road.

Noppadon said Yaowaret Shinawatra, a Thaksin's sibling and elder sister to Yingluck, had no linkage to any illegal venue as alleged.

the hapless brother Payup loses out yet again.

he can't get his name out there for any reason, good or bad.

According to Chuwit, the man with Wrch initials had the control over the gambling den.

Yaowaret is presently a businesswoman and involved in the Pheu Thai Party overseeing the southern consituencies. She served as the president of the National Council of Women of Thailand when Thaksin was in power.

Yaowaret... no stranger to dubious actions...

from the Red Shirts Running Roughshod Over Parking Lot Management thread:

http://www.thaivisa....-thai-for-help/

Yaowaret Shinawatra, (the ugly sister)

President, the National Council of Women of Thailand under the Royal Patronage

Allegations of corruption during the development of Suvarnabhumi Airport, the new international airport serving Bangkok, Thailand, have been made since the project's inception. These allegations started in the 1970s, when the land for the airport was purchased during the dictatorship of Thanom Kittikachorn,^[1] and extended to the government of Thaksin Shinawatra, during which most of the construction occurred. To date, no Thai government, police, or auditor-general investigation has shown any corruption in the project..........The airport contains 2 5-storey car park buildings with a combined capacity of 5,000 cars.

Two videos were released in which car park contractor Latthapol Kesakotin, in one video, claimed that he paid USD $250 million to Yaowaret Shinawatra (the Prime Minister's sister) to gain a contract to build and operate the airport car park, and another video in which he claimed he didn't pay anything to Yaowaret. He later publicly denied that he paid anything to Yaowaret.^{[5]http://en.wikipedia....Airport_project}

Yaowaret Shinawatra, Thaksin's younger sister, in August filed criminal and civil lawsuits against the Thai-language daily Thai Post for a story on another construction contract at the airport http://cpj.org/2005/...journalists.php

How do you view this current case by your party deputy, Alongkorn Ponlabutr, accusing Thaksin’s sister, Yaowaret Shinawatra, of demanding a 300 million baht (US $7.5 million) bribe from a company to build a car park at the new Bangkok airport? Well, both sides are going to court, and they will each have to prove their case. It’s interesting to see the way the government has reacted to the revelations made by Alongkhorn. There has been no action, no words—only government MPs making political rebuttals, counter-allegations and so on. Abhisit Vejjajiva http://www2.irrawadd..._id=4903&page=3

Thaksin’s younger sister Yaowaret Shinawatra rejected suggestions Thaksin’s close family had left the country because they were concerned about possible consequences of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) mass protest. The family went abroad for business or holiday purposes and they would return to Thailand soon, Mrs Yaowaret said

They had no intention to flee the country, as the government suggested. Other members of the Shinawatra family were still in Thailand, she said

UDD leaders and their allies are soliciting donations to fund the protest which is set to begin nationwide tomorrow with a plan to assemble in Bangkok on Sunday. They have launched a donation campaign chaired by Yaowaret Shinawatra, a sister of fugitive former prime minister Thaksin, to raise money to pay for demonstrators' fuel costs..http://www.asiaviews.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19850:reportalias1025&catid=2:regional-news-a-special-reports&Itemid=9

Yaowaret Shinawatra, chairwoman of the National Women's Council and sister of the prime minister, also filed a similar suit against Alongkorn Polabutr, a Democrat MP and Thai Post newspaper, demanding 300 million baht in damages.

Lawsuits of this magnitude are unprecedented and caused quite a stir among journalists, who are confused as to where the fine line between defamation and criticism now stands. Meetings were called among editors and operators to discuss the new trend. Among the questions raised is whether the media still have the right to criticise people in the news, who are regarded as public figures. If this was still the case, why then were they sued for such enormous compensation? Do we still endorse a freedom of speech to criticise the performances and behaviours of these public figures? Some even view that such legal action is intended to be a threat to gag the media. http://www.internati...?parentid=31213

Business as usual for this pond scum Shinawatra family.

Edited July 4, 2012 by Buchholz

[Ferangled]

History is full of heroic massage parlour tycoons? Really?

I love the way you guys will get behind anyone, no matter how dubious their morality, if their agenda fits your own... it shows real...err... what's the word? Moral fibre? No... hypocrisy.

Thai massage is an ancient profession that dates back thousands of years. Its certainly been around these parts a lot longer than you or I have. Hypocrisy is a lot nicer word than what could be used to describe people visiting a foreign land and condemning its ancient ways.

I said history is made of heroic figures, and Chuwit's actions are in my opinion courageous just like slaying Medusa and all her evil little wizards too.

Actually the last time I saw Chuwit he was making public the flood-related crimes of looting and mismanagement of the relief supplies etc. which also put him in the line of fire from the noble souls who steal relief equipment from a flood-stricken country. I immediately decided he was very heroic in his wellington-boots.

You are hilarious Yunla. So now Thai soapies and the exploitation of poor rural women is an ancient Thai way above outside criticism, a profession that should be revered and accepted as an ancient Thai way of life?! Thai massage is indeed an ancient part of Thai culture, clearly quite different to the modern massage parlours and soapies acting as fronts for brothels.

I would agree in so far as prostitution is certainly the oldest profession in the book. Exploiting the female members of poor, rural families to amass a great fortune however is not a profession that I see as an ancient, revered and integral part of Thai culture above outside criticism. I'll leave that for those with selective reasoning and a specific agenda to push...

Paint it however you like Yunla, Chuwit made billions of baht off the backs of the daughters of farmers, sold into prostitution. In the past he professed he had no idea what really went on in his "massage parlours", since he has admitted that they were in the business of prostitution and regularly gave out freebies to secure police favours.

Your comments about Medusa and wizards lost me somewhat, I can't see the relevance when discussing the utter hypocrisy of someone that promotes a pimp as some sort of national hero and purveyor of ancient Thai wares but is so vehement in their criticism of others engaging in what most would consider far less damaging crimes.

I understand that gambling is illegal in Thailand but then so is prostitution and both are rife here. Mind you only one of these illegal activities has a government run legal version for the masses to enjoy... that too smacks of utter hypocrisy.

[Yunla]

[You are hilarious Yunla. So now Thai soapies and the exploitation of poor rural women is an ancient Thai way above outside criticism, a profession that should be revered and accepted as an ancient Thai way of life?! Thai massage is indeed an ancient part of Thai culture, clearly quite different to the modern massage parlours and soapies acting as fronts for brothels.

I would agree in so far as prostitution is certainly the oldest profession in the book. Exploiting the female members of poor, rural families to amass a great fortune however is not a profession that I see as an ancient, revered and integral part of Thai culture above outside criticism. I'll leave that for those with selective reasoning and a specific agenda to push...

Paint it however you like Yunla, Chuwit made billions of baht off the backs of the daughters of farmers, sold into prostitution. In the past he professed he had no idea what really went on in his "massage parlours", since he has admitted that they were in the business of prostitution and regularly gave out freebies to secure police favours.

Your comments about Medusa and wizards lost me somewhat, I can't see the relevance when discussing the utter hypocrisy of someone that promotes a pimp as some sort of national hero and purveyor of ancient Thai wares but is so vehement in their criticism of others engaging in what most would consider far less damaging crimes.

I understand that gambling is illegal in Thailand but then so is prostitution and both are rife here. Mind you only one of these illegal activities has a government run legal version for the masses to enjoy... that too smacks of utter hypocrisy.

Do you have any proof that his Thai massage parlours were brothels, and they had forced prostitution and that girls were mistreated there. You know that if you don't have that proof you have just slandered him in public.

I don't visit them and I don't have any research into these places. I was addressing the original point you made about "his massage parlours". I have a Thai lady friend who runs a Thai massage parlour in Bangkok, where they do massage to mainly Thais on low-budget. I know they have happy girls who are grateful for the work and are not exploited and I was wondering if you had proof that Mr. Chuwit's employees are different.

You went all-out attack on me and all I said was that his actions of facing government corruption were courageous.

Edited July 4, 2012 by Yunla

[chuang]

If there are casinos related to the Thaksin family operating right under the noses of the Democrat controlled Bangkok, then there must be something fishy going on...

[Ferangled]

[You are hilarious Yunla. So now Thai soapies and the exploitation of poor rural women is an ancient Thai way above outside criticism, a profession that should be revered and accepted as an ancient Thai way of life?! Thai massage is indeed an ancient part of Thai culture, clearly quite different to the modern massage parlours and soapies acting as fronts for brothels.

I would agree in so far as prostitution is certainly the oldest profession in the book. Exploiting the female members of poor, rural families to amass a great fortune however is not a profession that I see as an ancient, revered and integral part of Thai culture above outside criticism. I'll leave that for those with selective reasoning and a specific agenda to push...

Paint it however you like Yunla, Chuwit made billions of baht off the backs of the daughters of farmers, sold into prostitution. In the past he professed he had no idea what really went on in his "massage parlours", since he has admitted that they were in the business of prostitution and regularly gave out freebies to secure police favours.

Your comments about Medusa and wizards lost me somewhat, I can't see the relevance when discussing the utter hypocrisy of someone that promotes a pimp as some sort of national hero and purveyor of ancient Thai wares but is so vehement in their criticism of others engaging in what most would consider far less damaging crimes.

I understand that gambling is illegal in Thailand but then so is prostitution and both are rife here. Mind you only one of these illegal activities has a government run legal version for the masses to enjoy... that too smacks of utter hypocrisy.

Do you have any proof that his Thai massage parlours were brothels, and they had forced prostitution and that girls were mistreated there. You know that if you don't have that proof you have just slandered him in public.

I don't visit them and I don't have any research into these places. I was addressing the original point you made about "his massage parlours". I have a Thai lady friend who runs a Thai massage parlour in Bangkok, where they do massage to mainly Thais on low-budget. I know they have happy girls who are grateful for the work and are not exploited and I was wondering if you had proof that Mr. Chuwit's employees are different.

You went all-out attack on me and all I said was that his actions of facing government corruption were courageous.

If you have any doubts Yunla, google is your friend. I have said nothing that isn't common knowledge or published elsewhere.

You will note I used the past tense as Chuwit claims he has left this business behind him and is no longer involved in any massage parlours/ brothels. Neither have I suggested that any girls were mistreated, I said exploited. I firmly believe that earning money from women engaged in prostitution is exploitative.

Here's a link to Chuwit's wiki page and some exerts from it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuwit_Kamolvisit

These massage parlors cater mainly to wealthy Thais and operate in a grey area of the law; massage parlors are legal, but prostitution is not. Inside the parlors, some masseuses sit behind a glass window; others wait in a lounge or may be viewed via closed-circuit TV. Once a customer has chosen a masseuse, the couple retire to a room, where he is bathed and the masseuse performs a foam massage using her naked body. This is generally followed by sexual relations.^[2]Prices are from 2000 to 5000 baht for a two hour session. Chuwit once claimed in an interview that he was ignorant about what happens in the rooms; however, he has since admitted that prostitution does take place in his parlors.

Angry that police dared to arrest him, he publicly released the amounts of bribes he had regularly paid in the past, along with names of the high ranking police recipients. He put the total amount of bribes at 200 million baht over 10 years, but has since suggested it was closer to 12 million baht. He also claimed that "VIP" policemen received free service in his parlors (an allegation that was later confirmed by interviewing some of the masseuses.^[2])

An interview with your hero...

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/thailand/100526/thai-politics-happy-ending

Raised in Thailand, college-educated in the U.S., Chuvit made his fortune in Bangkok running lucrative “soapies”: luxury massage parlors where women treat patrons to erotic baths.

Playing godfather to a brothel empire may seem an odd springboard to becoming an anti-corruption crusader. But any Thai living in Bangkok can recount Chuvit’s path to fame, chronicled in soap opera detail by the Thai press.

In the early 2000s, Chuvit began publicly accusing senior police officers of milking him for an alleged $350,000-plus in monthly bribes. It was protection money, Chuvit claimed. Brothel bosses can escape prostitution laws through a flimsy legal sleight-of-hand: They rent out masseurs but claim ignorance of in-room activities.

I can't believe the bare faced hypocrisy here, suggesting slander, given the amount of highly dubious speculative assertions you have made on this forum about other political figures, with absolutely no evidence to back up your assertions.

[TackyToo]

Chuvit said he would lodge this issue as an agenda item in any future no-confidence debate against the Yingluck government.

It takes some real minerals to campaign like Chuwit does in this political climate and background corruption. He understands that to kill the Hydra there is no point kicking it in the knees, you have to cut off its heads to stop it. History is made of heroic individuals like that. Good luck to him.

History is full of heroic massage parlour tycoons? Really?

I love the way you guys will get behind anyone, no matter how dubious their morality, if their agenda fits your own... it shows real...err... what's the word? Moral fibre? No... hypocrisy.

According to your point of view, the truth revealed by a convict is untrue because of his status?

[Kalbo]

I like Chuwit. He is Chinese/Thai and got a masters in the US. He can't be all bad. Plus my old girlfriend used to work for him. She was a clean woman. Always smelled like she just stepped out of the shower.

You obviously have good taste in women, she was probably so clean and sweet smelling because he provided daily soapy bubble baths to all his employees. He's a caring and conscientious guy.

Chuwit is not Thai/Chinese.

He is 100% pure Chinese (both parents are 100% pure Chinese).

So are his wives.

So all her children are also 100% pure Chinese.

Does he need a work permit to be an MP then ?

[EyesWideOpen]

Chuwit pursuit of gambling dens is pretty funny stuff, but it seems a bit off the mark. In the computer world, if you are a hacker, you get arrested, serve time, and then when you get out of jail you start a security firm to protect companies from other hackers. So using that example here, Chuwit going after casinos makes about as much sense as a reformed hacker going after after hours bars. Since Chuwit is the wizard of illegal massage parlors, that is who he should be going after.......

[MunterHunter]

According to your point of view, the truth revealed by a convict is untrue because of his status?

Meaning nothing can be believed from Thaksin then... as he is a convicted Criminal

[Ferangled]

Chuvit said he would lodge this issue as an agenda item in any future no-confidence debate against the Yingluck government.

It takes some real minerals to campaign like Chuwit does in this political climate and background corruption. He understands that to kill the Hydra there is no point kicking it in the knees, you have to cut off its heads to stop it. History is made of heroic individuals like that. Good luck to him.

History is full of heroic massage parlour tycoons? Really?

I love the way you guys will get behind anyone, no matter how dubious their morality, if their agenda fits your own... it shows real...err... what's the word? Moral fibre? No... hypocrisy.

According to your point of view, the truth revealed by a convict is untrue because of his status?

No, the point being that history is not full of Heroic Massage Parlour Tycoons and that selective ignorance of the crimes some commit while focusing on others is rank hypocrisy. That was my point.

My point of view is not easily summarised in a single post. The truth is the truth and lies are lies, the pertinent question here is what is the motivation behind the selective revealing of either?

[OzMick]

Chuvit said he would lodge this issue as an agenda item in any future no-confidence debate against the Yingluck government.

It takes some real minerals to campaign like Chuwit does in this political climate and background corruption. He understands that to kill the Hydra there is no point kicking it in the knees, you have to cut off its heads to stop it. History is made of heroic individuals like that. Good luck to him.

History is full of heroic massage parlour tycoons? Really?

I love the way you guys will get behind anyone, no matter how dubious their morality, if their agenda fits your own... it shows real...err... what's the word? Moral fibre? No... hypocrisy.

Don't just shoot the messenger, shoot anybody that has read the messenger, why not go postal while your at it? Meanwhile the rest of us will discuss the message and it possible value.

[Ferangled]

Chuvit said he would lodge this issue as an agenda item in any future no-confidence debate against the Yingluck government.

It takes some real minerals to campaign like Chuwit does in this political climate and background corruption. He understands that to kill the Hydra there is no point kicking it in the knees, you have to cut off its heads to stop it. History is made of heroic individuals like that. Good luck to him.

History is full of heroic massage parlour tycoons? Really?

I love the way you guys will get behind anyone, no matter how dubious their morality, if their agenda fits your own... it shows real...err... what's the word? Moral fibre? No... hypocrisy.

Don't just shoot the messenger, shoot anybody that has read the messenger, why not go postal while your at it? Meanwhile the rest of us will discuss the message and it possible value.

I'd prefer not to shoot anybody and leave it at pointing out that history isn't full of heroic massage parlour tycoons... quite the contrary in fact

[Yunla]

An interview with your hero...

Thanks for the links. From what I was reading there, they were upmarket massage parlours, with full contact and optional sex. Its still a world away from most prostitutes who get paid less and work in rough neighbourhoods and get beaten etc. Without seeing it myself I can't possibly say if the girls working at these upmarket parlours were unhappy or not. I would say having the option to leave of your own free will and not being unhappy at work are relevant and impossible to gauge from web links. I will concede that there was paid sex though. My friend (a Thai woman) runs a Bangkok massage parlour without the mutual nakedness or the full body stuff, just muscle-rubs etc. for people after work.

Anyway, so Chuwit used to have upmarket knocking-shop/massage parlours. And he quit. I watched him a few months back he was campaigning against criminals who were stealing flood-equipment etc. I think that is really admirable of him. And I'll take his side over Thaksin and Yingluck any day if it comes to it.

Edited July 4, 2012 by Yunla