Red Shirts Urged To Gather Outside Court To Offer 'Moral Support' To Their Leaders

[ThaiOats]

Ya know, all sides should just come out with huge powered speakers and just have a showdown on whoever has the loudest speakers. Just push it to the limit and see at what point do they call it being disruptive which warrants for tickets and dispersal. Have a one man anti-red shirt protest to disrupt their whole gathering mess.

In Japan and America, people aren't allowed to have gatherings in public spaces blasting music. Being disruptive can earn you a ticket.

That is why Thaksin wants to go to the states to show them how to disrespect the powers that be. He is a professional at it and they are rank amateurs at it. He figures he can teach them the advantage of wire barricades and burning tires a long with proper audio equipment.

Which is why to apply international standards in this country is futile unless the citizens do some self introspection. It is not merely the acts of the politicians which puts the country in such a sorry state but it is also the fault of the citizens who seemingly do not wish to take blame and responsibility. People who are too stubborn to admit their mistakes and weaknesses imprison themselves to a pretentious world in which they resort to things they are capable of and block out things they do not wish to understand.

For instance, "If something happens and it can't be controlled [because we cannot communicate through loudspeakers] then the court is to be blamed." Let's not reasonably understand why the court made the decision to bar loud speakers but instead, lets just blame them if something happens ie: everyone screaming at the top of their lungs, throwing rocks, etc.. They can scream, dance, get undressed or do whatever they want as long as they are not breaking any laws but will they think about the implications? Just do not blame society if they were to attribute any other negativity towards the Red Shirts if such was the case. I understand it's a free country and by all means go ahead. However, there should be some moderation and restraint as to be held in a mature and positive light by those who do not necessarily agree with your views. Society shouldn't operate in an egocentric view and if it that was the case, chaos will surely ensue.

This of course hasn't happened yet and it's based on speculation. I hope that I am wrong and that people are actually able to consider other people's feelings before themselves.

[Mosha]

Don't these rent a mob muppets have proper jobs?

[Moruya]

Don't these rent a mob muppets have proper jobs?

One of the properties of having a farming job is that it's not a 9-5 environment.

Up on the family rice, tapioca, sugar cane etc. smallholding, it's the rhythm of the crop that dictates the work so there is a lot of downtime.

[Moruya]

What a turn around. First the red shirts threaten and intimidate the courts by giving out their personal phone numbers and addressees and now they are going to protect them

What are they going to do if the Yellow shirts show up first and get closest to the building. My bet is they are not going to hand them flowers.

They didn't say they were going to protect the judges - why would they need to against the yellow shirts, it would be just one big love in. It's the government they said they were going to protect, if necessary from the "mass rally" of the yellowshirts.

Grenade toting nasties versus grannies with yellow hand clappers.....

[OzMick]

Don't these rent a mob muppets have proper jobs?

One of the more arduous rural jobs in Thailand is Cow-watching which involves untying the cow every morning, walking until you find some grass, then observing the cow until sunset when it is returned. Those with experience sometimes watch more than one cow.

One of the job benefits is plenty of time to consider what you will do with all that money when Thaksin makes you rich.

[whybother]

There are thousands of catalogued photos of the armed reds. Guns, knives, grenade launchers, machetes, catapaults.

My memories of the PAD don't quite ring the same. Mainly happy people enjoying themselves and waving their yellow hand clappers.

Selective memory.

[billd766]

What a turn around. First the red shirts threaten and intimidate the courts by giving out their personal phone numbers and addressees and now they are going to protect them

What are they going to do if the Yellow shirts show up first and get closest to the building. My bet is they are not going to hand them flowers.

They didn't say they were going to protect the judges - why would they need to against the yellow shirts, it would be just one big love in. It's the government they said they were going to protect, if necessary from the "mass rally" of the yellowshirts.

I wasn't aware that the government was on trial this week so why would they need protecting?

AFAIR the Yellow Shirts said nothing about protesting outside the courts until Thida urged the Red Shirts to show up.

Unless you know more of course.

[Wombat6]

perhaps The supporters should be urged to visit those convicted in Prison instead of cluttering the court area to the detriment of people trying to go about normal business

[OzMick]

perhaps The supporters should be urged to visit those convicted in Prison instead of cluttering the court area to the detriment of people trying to go about normal business

Failing that, they could join them.

[phiphidon]

perhaps The supporters should be urged to visit those convicted in Prison instead of cluttering the court area to the detriment of people trying to go about normal business

Failing that, they could join them.

The Wizard of Oz - Voice of Reason

[Moruya]

There are thousands of catalogued photos of the armed reds. Guns, knives, grenade launchers, machetes, catapaults.

My memories of the PAD don't quite ring the same. Mainly happy people enjoying themselves and waving their yellow hand clappers.

Selective memory.

That video fro PPD looks to me to be the night after a Milwall Norwich match.

If it is in Thailand then it can only be flase PAD supporters. Red thigs sent to masquerade as such and tarnish their reputation.

[Buchholz]

perhaps The supporters should be urged to visit those convicted in Prison instead of cluttering the court area to the detriment of people trying to go about normal business

None of the Red Shirt Leaders are in prison, so visiting the rank and file pawns that are incarcerated is of no interest to them.

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Edited August 5, 2012 by Buchholz

[ratcatcher]

Don't these rent a mob muppets have proper jobs?

One of the more arduous rural jobs in Thailand is Cow-watching which involves untying the cow every morning, walking until you find some grass, then observing the cow until sunset when it is returned. Those with experience sometimes watch more than one cow.

One of the job benefits is plenty of time to consider what you will do with all that money when Thaksin makes you rich.

You forgot to mention their excrement assessment job, that is deciding whether what the cow deposits on the ground is of more value than what their leaders deposit in parliament.

[phiphidon]

Best way to neutralize the grannies with yellow hand clappers

Unattributed media removed

A rally of locals and residents against the threats of The Red Shirts behind barricades on the other side of Rama IV Road.

The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road

"The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road"

Did they? Were you there - has the person / persons responsible been caught, and proved responsible? If you read about it in a newspaper or this forum all bets are off.

[phiphidon]

I have to wonder what would happen if 5 M-79 grenades were fired into the red crowd outside the court house.

It would probably kill and certainly injure a number of innocent people - what is your point?

Edited August 5, 2012 by phiphidon

[phiphidon]

perhaps The supporters should be urged to visit those convicted in Prison instead of cluttering the court area to the detriment of people trying to go about normal business

None of the Red Shirt Leaders are in prison, so visiting the rank and file pawns that are incarcerated is of no interest to them.

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Are you their spokesman as well now?

[Moruya]

I shall be heading up to the family village in Loei for a 10 day break very shortly. It always recharges the batteries. Spicy food and a cold beer followed by an early night. Cockerel call early morning.

The family and others in the village simply never talk about either Thaksin or the red shirts and generally if the subject comes up they dismiss it as an irrelevance.

Their lives rotate on eating food, tending the farm, socialising and having fun. The sense of community is strong. The local kids come to take a look at the farang sometimes!

In this little world it's easy for me to believe that Thaksin and Thida hold roughly as much relevance to the locals as William Shakespeare.

[Buchholz]

Best way to neutralize the grannies with yellow hand clappers

A rally of locals and residents against the threats of The Red Shirts behind barricades on the other side of Rama IV Road.

The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road

"The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road"

Did they? Were you there - has the person / persons responsible been caught, and proved responsible? If you read about it in a newspaper or this forum all bets are off.

Feel free to provide the same information regarding your video in your Post # 36.

As that begot the video you are posting about now it seems only right to address them in chronological order.

Anyway, for the benefit of the inattentive... the text under the video was provided by the YouTube poster.

Elsewhere we have:

On Thursday night, five M-79 grenades fired at the Silom Road-Sala Daeng intersection, hitting the BTS Skytrain station and on the street below where the 'Silom community' and pro-government 'Multi-Coloured Group' were rallying against the anti-government 'Red Shirt' United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) supporters, killing one person and wounding 87, including foreigners.

http://www.mcot.net/...page/48072.html

Edited August 5, 2012 by Buchholz

[Moruya]

Best way to neutralize the grannies with yellow hand clappers

Unattributed media removed

A rally of locals and residents against the threats of The Red Shirts behind barricades on the other side of Rama IV Road.

The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road

"The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road"

Did they? Were you there - has the person / persons responsible been caught, and proved responsible? If you read about it in a newspaper or this forum all bets are off.

If you applied that kind of rule to yourself, you wouldn't exist in any form.

PPD is but a virtual irrelevance that resides within the confines of this transient web space. As the forum archives, so you disappear and in time, nothing more shall remain.

The mammalian entity that acts the PPD role cannot exist as other than a few worthless paper baubles that can only be ignored under PPD's rules, there is nothing to prove his or her existence.

[Buchholz]

perhaps The supporters should be urged to visit those convicted in Prison instead of cluttering the court area to the detriment of people trying to go about normal business

None of the Red Shirt Leaders are in prison, so visiting the rank and file pawns that are incarcerated is of no interest to them.

Are you their spokesman as well now?

Good heavens no. I wouldn't ever want take that role away from you.

I was just commenting on what has occurred many times over the course of the Redmob's history where double standards exist for the leaders and rank and file pawns.

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[Buchholz]

It was just the preliminary while waiting on you.

Feel free to provide the same information regarding your video in your Post # 36.

As that begot the video you are posting about now it seems only right to address them in chronological order.

[phiphidon]

Best way to neutralize the grannies with yellow hand clappers

Unattributed media removed

A rally of locals and residents against the threats of The Red Shirts behind barricades on the other side of Rama IV Road.

The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road

"The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road"

Did they? Were you there - has the person / persons responsible been caught, and proved responsible? If you read about it in a newspaper or this forum all bets are off.

If you applied that kind of rule to yourself, you wouldn't exist in any form.

PPD is but a virtual irrelevance that resides within the confines of this transient web space. As the forum archives, so you disappear and in time, nothing more shall remain.

The mammalian entity that acts the PPD role cannot exist as other than a few worthless paper baubles that can only be ignored under PPD's rules, there is nothing to prove his or her existence.

Well I think we need a bit more proof than buchholzs weak effort which no doubt in time honoured fashion he will disown and say he was only reposting a you tube video.

[whybother]

Best way to neutralize the grannies with yellow hand clappers

Unattributed media removed

A rally of locals and residents against the threats of The Red Shirts behind barricades on the other side of Rama IV Road.

The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road

"The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road"

Did they? Were you there - has the person / persons responsible been caught, and proved responsible? If you read about it in a newspaper or this forum all bets are off.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Red-shirt-terrorist-suspect-arrested-in-Lop-Buri-30133836.html

[473geo]

Don't these rent a mob muppets have proper jobs?

One of the more arduous rural jobs in Thailand is Cow-watching which involves untying the cow every morning, walking until you find some grass, then observing the cow until sunset when it is returned. Those with experience sometimes watch more than one cow.

One of the job benefits is plenty of time to consider what you will do with all that money when Thaksin makes you rich.

At least their endeavours produce tangible resuts

Unlike Thaksin thread watching.....

[philw]

Don't these rent a mob muppets have proper jobs?

One of the more arduous rural jobs in Thailand is Cow-watching which involves untying the cow every morning, walking until you find some grass, then observing the cow until sunset when it is returned. Those with experience sometimes watch more than one cow.

One of the job benefits is plenty of time to consider what you will do with all that money when Thaksin makes you rich.

Bit like some gin jockies...................

Why do you feel it necessary to insult rural Thailand ?

Edited August 5, 2012 by philw

[Moruya]

Best way to neutralize the grannies with yellow hand clappers

Unattributed media removed

A rally of locals and residents against the threats of The Red Shirts behind barricades on the other side of Rama IV Road.

The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road

"The red shirts later responded by firing 5 grenades from a launcher into Silom Road"

Did they? Were you there - has the person / persons responsible been caught, and proved responsible? If you read about it in a newspaper or this forum all bets are off.

If you applied that kind of rule to yourself, you wouldn't exist in any form.

PPD is but a virtual irrelevance that resides within the confines of this transient web space. As the forum archives, so you disappear and in time, nothing more shall remain.

The mammalian entity that acts the PPD role cannot exist as other than a few worthless paper baubles that can only be ignored under PPD's rules, there is nothing to prove his or her existence.

Well I think we need a bit more proof than buchholzs weak effort which no doubt in time honoured fashion he will disown and say he was only reposting a you tube video.

We're all just cowboys arguing over the best bullock at the show. Looking at bullshit for answers.

[siampolee]

Very interesting find of ordinance at Mor Chit this afternoon, one wonders whether there is a stirring towards civil unrest and possibly this weeks court verdict Wednesday or Thursday might be the catalyst for such an event ?

Edited August 5, 2012 by siampolee

[ratcatcher]

I shall be heading up to the family village in Loei for a 10 day break very shortly. It always recharges the batteries. Spicy food and a cold beer followed by an early night. Cockerel call early morning.

The family and others in the village simply never talk about either Thaksin or the red shirts and generally if the subject comes up they dismiss it as an irrelevance.

Their lives rotate on eating food, tending the farm, socialising and having fun. The sense of community is strong. The local kids come to take a look at the farang sometimes!

In this little world it's easy for me to believe that Thaksin and Thida hold roughly as much relevance to the locals as William Shakespeare.

I think your statement above covers the majority of the Thai people who go about their daily lives oblivious to the shenanigans of the politicians and the petty bickering of the shirt waving community.

Probably, if truth be known, most of them (to quote Rhett the Butler) "Don't give a dam_n".

[kimamey]

I`ve always thought that politicians in the UK are petty and infantile but the ones here actually make them look like grown up adults.

Even by Thai standards, Jatuporn isn't really a politician - really just a bought and paid for street thug.

25% of Thai MPs are appointed via the party list system with no electorate to face. This is a perfect recipe for corruption and for obtaining seats fro persons otherwise unelectable.

Thanks for that. I've never really understood Thai politics in particular the party list system so I didn't know about the 25%. I still don't understand why it's done like that. It must be a much easier job than in the UK where even if you are a minister or prime minister you still have to meet with your constituents and deal with their problems even if they didn't vote for you. I would imagine that this is also true in many other countries.

I've tried to find out more about Thai politics from my gf but I detect a reluctance to explain much, assuming she understands it herself of course.

[kimamey]

Don't these rent a mob muppets have proper jobs?

One of the more arduous rural jobs in Thailand is Cow-watching which involves untying the cow every morning, walking until you find some grass, then observing the cow until sunset when it is returned. Those with experience sometimes watch more than one cow.

One of the job benefits is plenty of time to consider what you will do with all that money when Thaksin makes you rich.

Bit like some gin jockies...................

Why do you feel it necessary to insult rural Thailand ?

What makes you think he was being insulting?