Thai Citeznship

[pinball]

Hi All,

If you are intrested in thai citeznship it can be applied for at following location. I know some people have asked this before.

Royal Thai police Special Branch Division.

Bulding 21

Patunwan near to siam BTS .

http://www.sb.police.go.th (Thai Only)

From my understanding after talking with the officer there there is no quota system for this, descions are made on the merit of the applicant. I have listed below the main criteria.

1. Must be able to sing the Thai National anthem. and The queens song.

2. Must have a work Permit

3. Must have been in Thaiand for 3 consecutive years.

4. Must have paid personal income tax for 3 years.

5. Must have made a donation to a charitable orgaisation in Thailand IE: Por Tek Tung etc.

6. salary requirments during the application period Single person 80.000 Thb, Married person 40.000 Thb

7. should be able to speak resonable Thai and understand spoken Thai.

8. Criminal record clearance.

9. 5000 Thb application fee.

Processing time will be 2 to 3years (but possibly less)

I have the full list of documents required in Thai langauge if you would like a copy please PM me ( get the misses to translate it)

If the application is approved you will need to select a Thai Name, you will be entitled to a Thai ID card and passport. depending on your country of origin you maybe required to give up you current nationalty.

The police officers speak very good English and are extremly helpfull and above all freindly.

Pinball

[glegolo]

depending on your country of origin you maybe required to give up you current nationalty.

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I must ask, are there actually people in this world that are prepared to dump their own nationality in order to be a "thai"????????

Seems in my eyes to be a downhill decision

Glegolo

[uptheos]

depending on your country of origin you maybe required to give up you current nationalty.

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I must ask, are there actually people in this world that are prepared to dump their own nationality in order to be a "thai"????????

Seems in my eyes to be a downhill decision

Glegolo

+1

Anyone doing this deserves Thai citizenship!!

[pinball]

glegolo

I have posted this for information only, I do not want see troll posts. or negative feedback about Thailand. i would ask the forum mods to remove any such posts

[NewlyMintedThai]

depending on your country of origin you maybe required to give up you current nationalty.

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I must ask, are there actually people in this world that are prepared to dump their own nationality in order to be a "thai"????????

Seems in my eyes to be a downhill decision

Glegolo

The Burmese, the Mainland Chinese, the Nepalese, the Indians...use your imagination.

[uptheos]

depending on your country of origin you maybe required to give up you current nationalty.

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I must ask, are there actually people in this world that are prepared to dump their own nationality in order to be a "thai"????????

Seems in my eyes to be a downhill decision

Glegolo

The Burmese, the Mainland Chinese, the Nepalese, the Indians...use your imagination.

Yeah, you're right...mustn't upset the OP......lots of people wanting Thai citizenship and prepared to give up their current nationality.

[pinball]

Please read CAREFULLY most countys allow a dual nationalty.

depending on your country of origin you maybe required to give up you current nationalty

[RKASA]

I think a few North Koreans might be interested in giving up one for the other. All a matter of who you are and when you were - as Abraham Maslow would say.

[jerrysteve]

Giving up one's citizenship if your from the west is a very large sacrifice, and in my view not a good idea.

[Maestro]

...If the application is approved you will need to select a Thai Name...

Are you sure you need to select a Thai name? I thought a transliteration of your current name into Thai was acceptable.

[p_brownstone]

You need to have Permanent Residence in Thailand or be married to a Thai before you can even apply.

Patrick

[NewlyMintedThai]

...If the application is approved you will need to select a Thai Name...

Are you sure you need to select a Thai name? I thought a transliteration of your current name into Thai was acceptable.

They ask you to select a Thai name , but ultimately you do not have to use it.

[ubonjoe]

You need to have Permanent Residence in Thailand or be married to a Thai before you can even apply.

Patrick

Permanent residence and 5 years total in country if not married to a Thai.

Three years on extensions if married to a Thai plus song singing and Thai language test is not required.

[Maestro]

They ask you to select a Thai name , but ultimately you do not have to use it.

First name only? Or also last name?

[NewlyMintedThai]

They ask you to select a Thai name , but ultimately you do not have to use it.

First name only? Or also last name?

Both, if I recall correctly. But mine was 5 years ago, maybe they don't even ask anymore.

[yankee99]

They ask you to select a Thai name , but ultimately you do not have to use it.

First name only? Or also last name?

My children and wife have my last name. So is my last name a thai name? Makes no sense but tit..

[NewlyMintedThai]

They ask you to select a Thai name , but ultimately you do not have to use it.

First name only? Or also last name?

My children and wife have my last name. So is my last name a thai name? Makes no sense but tit..

When a naturalized citizen chooses a surname, he must choose one that is new. Ie, not in use by any other Thai citizen. There are other rules, too -- limitations on number of syllables, meaning, etc.

[lopburi3]

I really believe reading that requirement was eliminated several years ago from postings in the PR dedicated thread.

[Tomtomtom69]

depending on your country of origin you maybe required to give up you current nationalty.

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I must ask, are there actually people in this world that are prepared to dump their own nationality in order to be a "thai"????????

Seems in my eyes to be a downhill decision

Glegolo

The Burmese, the Mainland Chinese, the Nepalese, the Indians...use your imagination.

Yeah, you're right...mustn't upset the OP......lots of people wanting Thai citizenship and prepared to give up their current nationality.

If you want to live in Thailand forever, or even just a long time you should be able to get Thai citizenship. In most cases, you don't need to give up your other nationalit(ies) either. I can't see any reason why it would be a good idea to NOT become a Thai citizen, given the chance. After all, millions of Asians including hundreds of thousands of Thais have moved abroad, many to western countries and have generally become citizens. There is no reason why a bit of reciprocity wouldn't be welcome.

[lopburi3]

Flame and reply removed.

[glegolo]

glegolo

I have posted this for information only, I do not want see troll posts. or negative feedback about Thailand. i would ask the forum mods to remove any such posts

WHAT???? Who are you to call me a troll???? take it easy my friend. I write what I think. And I personally think that exchanging my swedish nationality against a thai one IS a downhill decision, so WHAT???? If you ask any thai here in Thailand they will answer you exactly the same but the other way around of course.... And i will not cry over that "crime".......

glegolo

[MartinL]

I'm married to a Thai woman but have never worked here and thus never had a WP or paid income tax. All the other requirments of the citizenship app. are achievable but there's now no way to achieve those 3 prerequisites - I've no desire to spend years teaching English to be able to fulfil them.

A real pity because my life's here, my wife & her family (my stepchildren) are here and we don't want to leave to live in UK or anywhere else for that matter. It'd be nice to be my wife's equal, in the eyes of Thai law, but it seems it cannot be. Incidentally, my wife doesn't like the lack of equality either and would like me to be co-owner of "our" property around town, pay the same entrance fee to National Parks (by right, not as a concession because I can flash a driving licence), etc. I'd have thought, logically, that having an adequate income from abroad would satisfy the requirements but not so, it seems.

I wonder how many others have similar thoughts on the matter.

[uptheos]

depending on your country of origin you maybe required to give up you current nationalty.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I must ask, are there actually people in this world that are prepared to dump their own nationality in order to be a "thai"????????

Seems in my eyes to be a downhill decision

Glegolo

The Burmese, the Mainland Chinese, the Nepalese, the Indians...use your imagination.

Yeah, you're right...mustn't upset the OP......lots of people wanting Thai citizenship and prepared to give up their current nationality.

If you want to live in Thailand forever, or even just a long time you should be able to get Thai citizenship. In most cases, you don't need to give up your other nationalit(ies) either. I can't see any reason why it would be a good idea to NOT become a Thai citizen, given the chance. After all, millions of Asians including hundreds of thousands of Thais have moved abroad, many to western countries and have generally become citizens. There is no reason why a bit of reciprocity wouldn't be welcome.

I thought there was a fee of around 190,000 baht if citizenship is granted........is this so?

[Mario2008]

I thought there was a fee of around 190,000 baht if citizenship is granted........is this so?

You are confused with applying for Permanent Residency. The fee for Thai nationality is much cheaper.

[yankee99]

I'm married to a Thai woman but have never worked here and thus never had a WP or paid income tax. All the other requirments of the citizenship app. are achievable but there's now no way to achieve those 3 prerequisites - I've no desire to spend years teaching English to be able to fulfil them.

A real pity because my life's here, my wife & her family (my stepchildren) are here and we don't want to leave to live in UK or anywhere else for that matter. It'd be nice to be my wife's equal, in the eyes of Thai law, but it seems it cannot be. Incidentally, my wife doesn't like the lack of equality either and would like me to be co-owner of "our" property around town, pay the same entrance fee to National Parks (by right, not as a concession because I can flash a driving licence), etc. I'd have thought, logically, that having an adequate income from abroad would satisfy the requirements but not so, it seems.

I wonder how many others have similar thoughts on the matter.

What is the 3rd prerequisite? Of course if you want you could open some business that involves little to no work. Set up a company have a payroll etc etc! It may sound like a big deal but it isnt. This would take care of a WP and taxes...

[NewlyMintedThai]

Or just find a buddy with a corporate entity and get him to put you on the payroll. If this is your only obstacle it's easy enough to get past with a little creativity.

[ubonjoe]

I wonder how many others have similar thoughts on the matter.

Myself and many others I am sure.

Even PR is out of reach for the same reason.

Our wives could possibly get it changed since they are Thai citizens who could petition the government for a change to the laws and rules. It seems now might be the right time since we now have a female PM.

[prakhonchai nick]

I have Residency, and the only benefit I seem to have is that I do not need to apply for an annual visa. On the downside, in order to leave Thailand temporarily, I require 2 re-entry permits, each costing 1900bt for single re-entry or 3,800 for multiple.

What additional benefits would anyone obtain from citizenship, apart from being able to buy land?

[Damian Barrett]

Hi Pinball,

I would like to see the info you have as I have held Permanent Residence here for some ten years and once I retie I would really like not having to worry about new laws or changes that could change my states here.

[NewlyMintedThai]

I have Residency, and the only benefit I seem to have is that I do not need to apply for an annual visa. On the downside, in order to leave Thailand temporarily, I require 2 re-entry permits, each costing 1900bt for single re-entry or 3,800 for multiple.

What additional benefits would anyone obtain from citizenship, apart from being able to buy land?

Work without permit.

Never visit immigration again.

Visa-free travel to neighboring countries.

Own your company 100%.

Thai rates everywhere with no hassle.

Eligible for national health care.

Easy access to credit cards, finance...for starters.