U S Wants The Film "innocence Of Muslims" To Be Removed From Google

[bunuel]

It's too late for that. Even if the film is to be removed from youtube etc. - by now there are probably thousands of copies on people's computers all over the world.

Plus - if it would not be available nobody can see and find out on their own what a measly excuse for a movie it in fact is. It could even be more demonized than it is now. Humans can think for themselves if given the opportunity.

Unfortunately this isn't really about that movie or some cartoons, they are just being used to stir things up. As long as people in the Mid-Eastern countries can be led to focus on what other 'countries' just did evil to them they will not be able nor willing to think about their personal freedom.

Precisely! Can guarantee that the great majority of those demonstrating have not seen this truly miserable excuse for a trailer which under no conditions should be confused with a film or video. This looks like out takes for a rejected porno film, and since the crew and cast are all porn industry hacks, the ressamblance is no coincidence. Indeed, it is so bad that it is hard to believe anyone could take it seriously. If fundamentalists in the Middle East can get so excited about this garbage, they will use any pretext to rant and rave. Bottom line is that host countries have an obligation to protect foreign embassies, no matter what. If they don't, they will be expelled from the fraternity of civilized countries, and become pariah states. There are American policies which deserve discussion but this is not one of them. Keep the stupid thing online and let people judge for themselves.

What happened in Benghazi was an organized assault and would have happened anyway. Spontaneous demonstrators do not carry around RPGs. The Americans have every right to demand justice and to take necessary action if the Libyans waiver.

The Libyans have said the right thing. Now they need to act to re-assert state authority over amed groups in the country.

[BookMan]

From the Sydney protest against the film

[Xangsamhua]

While they are at shouldnt the police in Aussie be prosecuting for calling for beheadings as well then, is this not incitment to violence as well ?, should the mullahs in the mosques calling for Jihad be arrested as well ?

I don't think the protesters generally, or any mullahs, were calling for beheadings. A couple of idiots had signs up to that effect, but there was no call from the stage or recommendation to the government to reintroduce the guillotine. The protest was quite peaceful until a bunch of morons turned up and started causing trouble. Eight people were arrested for "various offences including affray, assault police dog and throwing a missile". (ABC News) No big deal - just idiots doing what idiots do.

[SunsetT]

Censorship.

If Christianity can tolerate the movie "Life of Brian", then Islam should be strong and secure enough to tolerate this movie..

Sorry about putting the words "tolerate" an "Islam in the same sentence.

I have no time for any religion, but there is no comparison with the 'Life of Brian' which light-heartedly satirized Christianity with the clear and very successful intent to make as many people as possible laugh. This garbage is deliberately derogatory and deliberately offensive with the intent to cause as much pain, suffering, trouble and violence as possible.

[Soutpeel]

While they are at shouldnt the police in Aussie be prosecuting for calling for beheadings as well then, is this not incitment to violence as well ?, should the mullahs in the mosques calling for Jihad be arrested as well ?

I don't think the protesters generally, or any mullahs, were calling for beheadings. A couple of idiots had signs up to that effect, but there was no call from the stage or recommendation to the government to reintroduce the guillotine. The protest was quite peaceful until a bunch of morons turned up and started causing trouble. Eight people were arrested for "various offences including affray, assault police dog and throwing a missile". (ABC News) No big deal - just idiots doing what idiots do.

Look at the photo in post # 123...you think this is acceptable ?....the idiot in this case is a child !....using a child to incite violence..and they are doing this because they know the police will not act...should have arrested the parents...

[KarenBravo]

This garbage is deliberately derogatory and deliberately offensive with the intent to cause as much pain, suffering, trouble and violence as possible.

Which is exactly what was said about "The Life Of Brian" when it came out.

It was made for athiests to laugh at and religious people to be outraged by.

[kimamey]

It's too late for that. Even if the film is to be removed from youtube etc. - by now there are probably thousands of copies on people's computers all over the world.

Plus - if it would not be available nobody can see and find out on their own what a measly excuse for a movie it in fact is. It could even be more demonized than it is now. Humans can think for themselves if given the opportunity.

Unfortunately this isn't really about that movie or some cartoons, they are just being used to stir things up. As long as people in the Mid-Eastern countries can be led to focus on what other 'countries' just did evil to them they will not be able nor willing to think about their personal freedom.

This is just being used as an excuse. The film is not the work of the US government although may have been made there. There were attacks on US interests after the cartoons from Denmark with the reasoning that the US must have done it. Other western embassies have been attacked even though it's nothing to do with them either. It's nothing to do with US fast food outlets either but they've been attacked.

The one connection in all this is the word "western". The film is just a cover for Muslim extremist to stir up trouble against the west which only damages the image of Islam. When have radical Islamists ever worried about insulting anyone else? Moderate Muslims would do well to show their true character and not be drawn into this. This film is only being searched for because of the violence. Best publicity ever.

[johnsonspot]

I have no time for any religion, but there is no comparison with the 'Life of Brian' which light-heartedly satirized Christianity with the clear and very successful intent to make as many people as possible laugh. This garbage is deliberately derogatory and deliberately offensive with the intent to cause as much pain, suffering, trouble and violence as possible.

Oh? Which parts of the film were "deliberately derogatory and deliberately offensive" and how can a mere movie incite violence? Did the movie ask Muslims to attack embassies or to kill people? When will you hold Muslims accountable for what Muslims do. No film did this. Edited September 15, 2012 by johnsonspot

[sauvagecheri]

Regardless of the content, this 'movie' should be banned because it is so incredibly horribly produced and acted. The movie dam_n near made my eyes bleed. I really wanted to see the 'shocking' parts, if for no reason other than to make fun of them, but it was so unbelievably poorly made that it was unwatchable. I was getting sick to my stomach from the 'cinematography' alone! How someone could have wasted $5m on such an wretched, steaming pile of crap is beyond me. Honestly, I am not overly critical of movies, I really enjoyed Toxic Avenger and Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, which are about as poorly made as any. But the three minutes I spent attempting to watch (and fast forward) the 13 minute preview felt like the longest 3 hours of my life. I could watch the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy in less time than it felt like I spent trying to watch this sham, even though it was in reality under 200 seconds of my life!

But back to the real issue, right wing media/propaganda is the same, no matter where you go. It is the 'Faux News' of the Muslim world which is reporting these protests to be much larger and widespread than they really are. Most people in the Muslim world are intelligent enough to figure out that this movie was not produced by the White House. There is just a small, very vocal, and very violent portion of the community which is very good at grabbing headlines, especially when the right wing wackos control the media (Al Qaeda...the Middle Eastern Tea Party). These same groups take advantage of situations like these to carry out their real objective, such as the clearly not impromptu RPG attack in Libya.

Geezzz guy ! Your eyes bleeding ! It was not that bad

Maybe it was just " Copt Humor " people of different cultures have different sense of what is funny and acceptable,and remember those people have suffered greatly under islam ..Just like the Islamist have zero sense of humor when it comes to the 7 th century fuhrer ,just try to see through and understand the message behind it ,this film maker did not spend 5 millions without having some kind of idea in mind ,personally I think he is a true hero and at least had the nerve and courage to do what he believed in ,because of this movie he will be getting in serious trouble and maybe lose his life ,remember Theo Van Gogh !

Some day this movie could very well be a culture classic ..LOL !

[viorel]

OK, I will make a joke and you shall see that no Christian will throw stones:

"We Christians are so poor than we can afford only one woman for a lifetime"

What do you say about that?

[bigbamboo]

According to the vote the concensus is three to one in favour of no censorship.

And to my knowledge not one baht has changed hands!

[geriatrickid]

Just scratch the surface a little and all the anti Muslim bigotry comes pouring out. For the record..No,this piece of crap film should not be censored, No particular religion or group should feel they have a passport through life for not being offended. But, if you bothered to find out about TRUE Islam, you would find a tolerant religion. Similarly, I am disgusted by the right wing extremism of some so called Christians... if they knew anything about the TRUE Christian message they would find a tolerant religion. The west has opened a Pandora's Box of their own making. Since the establishment of the Jewish state, we have, perhaps through misguided collective guilt, allowed Israel to literally get away with murder and the illegal occupation of Arab land. The American attitude of 'Israel can do no wrong' only marginalises the moderate elements in Islam and gives air to these extremists. This is why Benjamin Netanyahu is so vigorously lobbying for Romney because Obama isn't so keen to give Israel a free hand for a pre emptive strike against Iran. So, when a dopey film comes along it is a perfect ploy for their agenda. But to go down the road of ...'I am getting sick and tired of Islam' merely perpetuates the idea that all Muslims by definition are thereby ill educated terrorists in the making. Let's see how long Texans would put up with a foreign power taking over their state based on a religious text. When the protests broke out in Sydney overnight, some Muslims went on record as saying how they were disgusted by the violent protest and that in doing so brought shame upon Islam worse than the film.

Hello? This has nothing to do with Israel. Why raise the subject then. Israelis do not run about burning down mosques everytime the TV adaptation of some racist hateful movie is screened on TV in an arab country. Christians do not run about attacking arab embassies when they are protrayed as sexual perverts in films that have circulated in muslim countries. Even Indians do not take to the streets to attack when Pakistan airs films showing the Indians as depraved violent maniacs. North Korea has propaganda films circulating showing the South Koreans as sinister, conniving rapists and thugs. Do you think any South Korean has time to take to the street thumping his chest and screaming for blood? PM Netanyahu has a job and that is to advocate on behalf of what he believes is in his country's best interests. He also runs the risk of getting smacked down by those who disagree with him in the USA and in Israel. Is it really any different than the Canadian PM causing grief for the USA when he undertook negotiations with the Chinese to build a pipeline for oil to export to China after Republican governors asked President Obama to force a Canadian pipeline to not transit sensitive areas? The Canadian decision presented a far greater threat to the USA's national security than any dribble that comes from Netanyahu's mouth. After all, if the USA does not have access to cheap Canadian oil, it's economy is at risk, since Canada is the most important energy supplier to the USA. If you wish to try and divert attention away from the fact that muslim's on the national level seek to impose their views, go for it. The reality speaks for itself.

And btw, the nation of Israel was around centuries before the creation of Islam. You can't change history.

Edited September 15, 2012 by geriatrickid

[bigbamboo]

OK, I will make a joke and you shall see that no Christian will throw stones:

"We Christians are so poor than we can afford only one woman for a lifetime"

What do you say about that?

That's only one mother in law. Stone me!

[Xangsamhua]

While they are at shouldnt the police in Aussie be prosecuting for calling for beheadings as well then, is this not incitment to violence as well ?, should the mullahs in the mosques calling for Jihad be arrested as well ?

I don't think the protesters generally, or any mullahs, were calling for beheadings. A couple of idiots had signs up to that effect, but there was no call from the stage or recommendation to the government to reintroduce the guillotine. The protest was quite peaceful until a bunch of morons turned up and started causing trouble. Eight people were arrested for "various offences including affray, assault police dog and throwing a missile". (ABC News) No big deal - just idiots doing what idiots do.

Look at the photo in post # 123...you think this is acceptable ?....the idiot in this case is a child !....using a child to incite violence..and they are doing this because they know the police will not act...should have arrested the parents...

Why would you suggest I think that's acceptable? Obviously the child's parents are the idiots in this case. I wasn't at the protest, so I don't know how many placards like this there were. If there were lots that's bad, but there was no "call" by the protest leaders for beheadings.

Personally, I think they would all have done better to stay at home and do something constructive with their time

[BookMan]

OK, I will make a joke and you shall see that no Christian will throw stones:

"We Christians are so poor than we can afford only one woman for a lifetime"

What do you say about that?

I must know different Christians than you.

[viorel]

OK, I will make a joke and you shall see that no Christian will throw stones:

"We Christians are so poor than we can afford only one woman for a lifetime"

What do you say about that?

That's only one mother in law. Stone me!

Haha, you're true, the mother is the first woman...

I think i drunk to much wine (sic).

[viorel]

OK, I will make a joke and you shall see that no Christian will throw stones:

"We Christians are so poor than we can afford only one woman for a lifetime"

What do you say about that?

That's only one mother in law. Stone me!

Haha, you're true, the mother is the first woman...

I think i drunk to much wine (sic).

Regarding wine,

I love cultures, love every religion, but...

I do not understand how people can live without wine!

(i am from a place where wine is cheaper than beer)

[AussieSomchai]

The fellow who produced this should be tried for manslaughter. What he has done is no different to driving a car thoughtlessly. And America should be ashamed of itself. As an Aussie I am one of Ammerica's best friends - after all we've fought in every war they've lost - and we continue to stand with the land of the free - but this guy has exercised his freedom in a similar way to a guy who would excercise his freedom by pushing someone over a cliff - just because it seems like fun. If you claim to be a Christian, you are required by Christ to exercise respect.

[ThomasBird]

I strongly believed freedom of speech to be very important

but I dissagre with freedom of slander, freedom to encite

violence (and those producers knew exatly what the airing

of that movie would do).

Even the best democracies don't allow freedom of inciting

haterance or malicious attempts to destabalize institutions.

Try denying the holocaust in germany as example,

The more freedom we want, the more security we lose and

if we want security, we give up some of the freedom we have.

Just can't have the penny and the bun.

This goes beyond freedom of speech and expression. I dont know about the US, but I think we have laws in the UK banning 'incitement to violence' and 'promoting religious hatred' which this total garbage clearly sets out to do. I think all those participating in the making of it should be prosecuted accordingly, as I think that they must have known full well what they were doing. Google are also culpable, as in posting it, they are complicit. They should have known better.

People should be arrested for criticizing someone's religion?? Why don't we just go right back to living in the Dark Ages? And tell me why is Islam the only religion were not allowed to insult while its okay for them to blow up 1500 year old Buddhist statues, burn churches in Egypt and defecate inside the Church of the Nativity in the West Bank? The fact you are more offended by the film than the murderous religious wackos that carry out these vile acts tells me alot about you. If you want to live in a Theocratic Totalitarian state thats up to you but don't tell me to do the same.

[ripstanley]

What movie justifies murder in our society?

[geriatrickid]

*Deleted quote edited out*

Now, now. Islam is the religion of peace and Sharia law will ensure that peace reigns, as it ensures that anyone that disobeys gets a public stoning, beheading, amputation of a limb or if wealthy enough can pay blood money to escape a charge of murder. perhaps we should give it a go. This compassion and rehabilitation concept forced upon us by the Judeo-Christian approach has resulted in such debauchery, with happy people in Denmark, topless bathing in St. Tropez, political activism in the UK, and Australian women in a state of undress on the beaches of the world. All these women in a state of undress only tempt men into doing naughty things.

Edited September 15, 2012 by Scott

[viorel]

I strongly believed freedom of speech to be very important

but I dissagre with freedom of slander, freedom to encite

violence (and those producers knew exatly what the airing

of that movie would do).

Even the best democracies don't allow freedom of inciting

haterance or malicious attempts to destabalize institutions.

Try denying the holocaust in germany as example,

The more freedom we want, the more security we lose and

if we want security, we give up some of the freedom we have.

Just can't have the penny and the bun.

This goes beyond freedom of speech and expression. I dont know about the US, but I think we have laws in the UK banning 'incitement to violence' and 'promoting religious hatred' which this total garbage clearly sets out to do. I think all those participating in the making of it should be prosecuted accordingly, as I think that they must have known full well what they were doing. Google are also culpable, as in posting it, they are complicit. They should have known better.

People should be arrested for criticizing someone's religion?? Why don't we just go right back to living in the Dark Ages? And tell me why is Islam the only religion were not allowed to insult while its okay for them to blow up 1500 year old Buddhist statues, burn churches in Egypt and defecate inside the Church of the Nativity in the West Bank? The fact you are more offended by the film than the murderous religious wackos that carry out these vile acts tells me alot about you. If you want to live in a Theocratic Totalitarian state thats up to you but don't tell me to do the same.

No, people are executed for someone's religion - Theo van Gogh (descendent of Vincent van Gogh) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_%28film_director%29

Stop!

[rijb]

Removing the film won't make any difference. I'll bet most of the people in the streets haven't even seen the film. And the ones who did probably couldn't understand it.

The protestors were stampeded. Draw your own conclusions as to who triggered it.

[ThomasBird]

Don't look now, but the new Egyptian government are attacking Christians in a manner not seen in a very long time. And don't try to bring up centuries ago to make excuses for it. There is a serious crises going on there now the international media won't discuss for fear of angering the murderous thugs of the Islamic world who threaten anyone with violence who dares to criticize them.

[bigbamboo]

What movie justifies murder in our society?

Sex in the City 2......?

[viorel]

OK, I will make a joke and you shall see that no Christian will throw stones:

"We Christians are so poor than we can afford only one woman for a lifetime"

What do you say about that?

That's only one mother in law. Stone me!

Haha, you're true, the mother is the first woman...

I think i drunk to much wine (sic).

I will repharase that:

"We Christians are so poor than we can afford only one wife for a lifetime"

[Xangsamhua]

Just a slight correction the Nazi symbol you refer to is a symbol used by Hindus and Buddhists;originally by the ancient Hindus 5000 years ago. The Nazi's used it to represent their Party

NO IT IS NOT. I know the difference. The red, black and white Nazi flag and t-shirt are quite popular items here and recently some girls attended school and did a presentation dressed up as Hitler and Nazi soldiers.

Yes, the Nazi swastika was a variant on the Hindu-Buddhist one, which could face either right or left, but Simple1 is correct in that the earlier swastika is ancient and is still used as a symbol in those religions.

In fact, there are some well-regarded schools and other charitable institutions in Hong Kong and Singapore run by the Red Swastika Society, a Buddhist-Taoist philanthropic organization. The RSS swastika faces in the opposite direction from the Nazi one.

http://en.wikipedia....wastika_Society

[sauvagecheri]

Depends on how you translate the word "Jihad".

It literally means "Struggle" and it is more relevent to personal struggle, not war.

You really believe that ?

Let me fill you in ,in no uncertain terms ,jihad also and mostly means waging war ,against the infidel ,if it means murder ,beheadings,taking of hostages ..anything that furthers the faith ,the world wide establishing of sharia laws and the eventual submission and islamisation of the entire planet .

Read this http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_23_Jihad.Islam

[SunsetT]

This garbage is deliberately derogatory and deliberately offensive with the intent to cause as much pain, suffering, trouble and violence as possible.

Which is exactly what was said about "The Life Of Brian" when it came out.

It was made for athiests to laugh at and religious people to be outraged by.

]I dont recall EXACTLY what was said, and I very much doubt if you do to. I am not comparing what was said about the 2 films but the INTENT of the films. 'Life of Brian' had the intention to make people laugh and therefore happy, as did all of 'Monty Python's' work, It never had a hidden agenda; religious, political or otherwise. The intent of this piece of s**t, is clearly to upset as many Muslims as possible and therefore make people unhappy. The film is garbage in every respect: It is not interesting, clever, artistic, or funny except to those Islamiphobic bigots who would share its disgusting sentiments and intent.

[bartender100]

Riots in Sydney Australia today from muslim exstremists and 3 more boat loads of boat people (muslims) what a country and the government said they are welcome to the australian way of life what a joke all this over a comedy

If you ask the majority of the rioters where they would like to live, most would say US, Australia Uk or France. They just jealous haters.

Will there be a sequel ??? I hope so