All I See Is Complaints

[Dielie]

I've been reading the articles on Thai Visa now for quite some time. When it comes to replies I estimate that 80% are in a negative manner towards Thais/Thailand. Most, if not all, of these posts are from foreigners living in Thailand.

And then I wonder, if all you can do is complain how corrupt Thailand is and how stupid some policies are, and whatever else you hate, why don't you pack up your sh!t and leave? Too many visitors on TV seem to have too much time on their hands. There are lots of other countries where it's cheap and where there's sunshine (and where you might be able to find yourselves a gf).

Enjoy your stay!

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[smokie36]

Look up.

[phuturatica]

It's a love hate relationship clearly...

Sometimes the internet is just a good way of venting ones life stresses!

[mauGR1]

So, your second post, and so negative, if you don't like this Forum pack up and leave !

[dave2]

re.

There are lots of other countries where it's cheap and where there's sunshine

as your such a smart a#se and know it all .... name them and their visa requirements ?

dave2

[soi41]

And this a complaint about people complaining!

[JoeLing]

Suppose you're right. There arent that many Thais in this forum. Strange enough,

not many Russians, Chinese or Sudanese here either. Wonder why?

Maybe not to interesting for them? Maybe not very good at english? Maybe

too depresive. Who knows.

As you so very well noticed, there is a lot of complaining going on. Especially

about people complaining.

Suppose that is a british perogative and is a favorite past time for back home. It's

noting personal and doesn't mean we don't like it. It just makes us feel like home,

far away from home.

Now why on earth would you like us to go back from where we came from?

It's always cold there, the government is s**t, traffic jams, schooling is underfundet

our health care doesn't care. The neighbours are w***ers.

We do complain there just as much as we would any where in the world.

[Beetlejuice]

To the OP:

Keep taking the green tablets:

[loong]

There is a reason for there being more complaints than praises here.

It is because there is usually not an opposite to balance out, not that would make interesting reading anyway.

Eg. You might read a post complaining about having noisy neighbours, the poster's frustration causes him to open a topic.

What might there be to balance this?

If somebody started a topic saying that they are not disturbed by their neighbours and hardly ever hear them, most people would consider it a boring subject and think it pointless.

Somebody might post that they drove from Bangkok to chiang Mai and spent more on paying the police than they did on fuel.

Imagine a post..

" I got up this morning, had breakfast, got in my car and drove to Chiang Mai. The trip was uneventful and I arrived safely" The end

[Chittychangchang]

To the Op, the majority on here(That post-not lurk!) are British and yes we like to complain and moan and make the world a better place that is why we colonized the best parts of the planet. We are affectionatly known by our colonial cousins as whinging poms. It's part of the British culture. So take a green pill and chill man

[473geo]

Well I'm British, I enjoy Britain where I work, I enjoy Thailand where my family are.....

What's to complain about?

I'll leave that to those who feel the need.....

[Dielie]

Yawn ... ...

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[Rob8891]

@ Dielie

You've probably been given some good advice. Part of what you read is borne of frustration, and part is down to black humour typical of parts of Britain.

I used to feel much the same as you, but if you sift out the obvious trolls, there are a lot of good folk in TV (heavily disguised, I grant you). Now I don't get riled except when there is something overtly racist. There are two things you can do: either argue against it, or walk away. If you don't like TV, you're not forced to read anything, you could go elsewhere on the internet.

But if you do argue (debate would be a better term) your point,cool it, and don't tell folk to "pack up your sh!t and leave". You'll get much further with many posters by using humour. If you don't think you can do that, give yourself a break, and ignore Thaivisa, because it won't be for you, you will only give yourself grief.

[PingManDan]

So, your second post, and so negative, if you don't like this Forum pack up and leave !

I 2nd that

[Dielie]

Rob8891, you made some good points, as opposed to others. I actually read TV for the news and the practical info... But at the bottom yoy always reach the comments as you know.

"Pack uo your sh!t and leave" wasn't meant in an insulting way, just as i would say it in any situation.

Anyway, everybody has the right to think what they want. As a newbie I just noticed what I addressed before.

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[GuestHouse]

Yet another expat bleating about other expats expressing an opinion about Thailand he doesn't like to hear.

Rather than telling complete strangers that the should pack their bags and go home if they express opinions the OP doesn't like to hear, I suggest he takes some time to examine exactly what is going on in his own head that he is so offended by the opinions of people he does not know?

I'm not sure why the OP came to Thailand, I'm not sure why any expat comes to Thailand, but I am absolutely sure non of us came here to be told what we can think and say by other expats.

[roamer]

Look up.

I did look up Smokie and this is what I saw;

I can only assume that its telling the OP where to go

Edited September 26, 2012 by roamer

[WilliaminBKK]

Look up.

I did look up Smokie and this is what I saw;

I can only assume that its telling the OP where to go

I thought Smokie meant look up we`ve got another troll landing

[roamer]

Look up.

I did look up Smokie and this is what I saw;

I can only assume that its telling the OP where to go

I thought Smokie meant look up we`ve got another troll landing

I figured that William ! Just thought it was ironic that on my page it came with an Agoda ad above it

[chrisinth]

Yet another expat bleating about other expats expressing an opinion about Thailand he doesn't like to hear.

Rather than telling complete strangers that the should pack their bags and go home if they express opinions the OP doesn't like to hear, I suggest he takes some time to examine exactly what is going on in his own head that he is so offended by the opinions of people he does not know?

I'm not sure why the OP came to Thailand, I'm not sure why any expat comes to Thailand, but I am absolutely sure non of us came here to be told what we can think and say by other expats.

It appears that some people need to be told what to do, so that when everthing turns to sh1t they can blame the others on the advice given...........

Or if nobody gives favourable advice they want to hear, they deem everyone has a problem, just not them..........

OP, welcome to internet forums.

[Sharp]

Yet another expat bleating about other expats expressing an opinion about Thailand he doesn't like to hear.

Rather than telling complete strangers that the should pack their bags and go home if they express opinions the OP doesn't like to hear, I suggest he takes some time to examine exactly what is going on in his own head that he is so offended by the opinions of people he does not know?

I'm not sure why the OP came to Thailand, I'm not sure why any expat comes to Thailand, but I am absolutely sure non of us came here to be told what we can think and say by other expats.

Agreed ......

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[kennedy]

I venture to guess that most if not all of the complainers are city dwellers, or live in highly populated areas.I read the forum to reinforce my decision not to live in such places. Life here is good for me.

Now, was that not a boring post?

[geriatrickid]

To the Op, the majority on here(That post-not lurk!) are British and yes we like to complain and moan and make the world a better place that is why we colonized the best parts of the planet. We are affectionatly known by our colonial cousins as whinging poms. It's part of the British culture. So take a green pill and chill man

A good Englishman does not complain: He observes and makes a statement based upon the observation.

Proper Englishman have a stiff upper lip.

Perhaps you have been infected by the disease called the EU.....

[MrHammer]

The expats on Thaivisa are just the loud, miserable minority, who are likely bored out of their minds and maybe stuck in a bad place.

When I first moved to Thailand, I couldn't understand why there was such a big difference in how I perceived my wellcome versus how most on Thaivisa thought. I still haven't changed my mind 3 years in, so I've come to conclude that it's the posters who have a problem not Thailand.

Of course, there are many things that could be better with Thailand, but so far the good clearly outweighs the bad.

[Berkshire]

I'm with you Dielie. I was just reading the other day in a Bangkok thread and some idiot farang was complaining that 99% of the Thais are just looking for an excuse to pummel a farang. &lt;deleted&gt;? If the guy genuinely feels that way, why in <<Snip!>> name is he in Thailand?

Honestly, I have no problem with genuine complaints, or even rants. But when a farang has a bad experience with one Thai and proceeds to bash all Thais (a standard TV MO), that makes no sense to me. It's asinine. I truly think that the guys who bash Thais and Thailand the most are those who are miserable and are trying to find someone to blame for their crappy lot in life.

Edited September 27, 2012 by metisdead
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[aussiebebe]

It's bitterly hypocritical that the OP is complaining on his second post! I don't share their view of this forum as some sort of complaints hub; it's mostly people sharing experiences and giving advice. If you are in Thailand and what to know about anything; be it history, travel, shopping or entertainment, there's always someone here who can help.

[robblok]

The reason why people complain is to vent, we can't change much. I complain too (but i am not a Brit thank god), but i love it here. The good for me outweighs the bad.

But i complained just as hard on the forum back home about stuff in the Netherlands. Its quite normal for people to want to express their frustration at times.

Usually people who don't complain are those who just arrived here and still wear the rose tinted glasses or people who read this forum but don't even live here full-time.

Thai people complain too on forums and talk about it with others (or hold mass demonstrations red / yellow anyone) they don't agree with all that happens here too. Why should we be different.

On the Thai media there was an uproar too about the guy with the ferrari who mowed down the cop. Just because we (i can't and most of us cant) read those post does not mean the Thais don't complain on their social media.

[Wavefloater]

I assume the OP is quite young and hasn't yet realized that it's human nature to be vocal when the situation is disagreeable but say nothing when thing are going smoothly. People in all countries and from all cultures are like that. How often do people write to a company to praise them if the product they bought works to their expectations? Almost never! However, if the product doesn't live up to expectations, they will much more often complain.

It's always nice to see the simple solution come up, though -- go home or somewhere else. I can't believe that people are still offering that stale and extremely overused suggestion. We/they can go elsewhere, but the sad truth is that someone else will get off the next flight to take our places. The complainers will move on when they want to, or they will fade away somehow, but I can almost guarantee you that nobody has done so because it was suggested by someone here.

Edited September 27, 2012 by Wavefloater

[Dorothy1985]

Yawn ... ...

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A good orgasm can fix that.

In fact I have found that having an orgasm can get rid of all that negativty and replace it with feelings of skipping and humming along to ABBA.

The problem of course is getting inot the mood from the negativity to perform the orgasm process.

[Berkshire]

Thai people complain too on forums and talk about it with others (or hold mass demonstrations red / yellow anyone) they don't agree with all that happens here too. Why should we be different.

I agree that everyone complains about something one time or another. But if, for example on a Thai forum, the Thais were to discuss a recent arrest of some farang pedophile and one guy was to suggest that all farang males in Thailand were child molesters, would you be ok with that?

Farangs on TV do this to the Thais ALL THE TIME.