Thailand's War With The Uk

[draftvader]

I would imagine that the British Government is reading this thread and worrying endlessly about the advances of Thailand's economy.

UK GDP 2011 - $2,431,000,000,000 (#7)

Thailand GDP 2011 - $345,672,000,000 (#30)

UK GDP/Capita 2011 - $36,327 (#26)

Thailand GDP/Capita 2011 - $4,613 (#95)

Remember that the UK government would describe 2011 as a recession year whereas the Thai government described 2011 as a good year despite the floods. The UK won't stay in recession forever.

CMK, sorry to not be up to date with everybody's country of origin, but where are you from? What did the UK do to you as a person? Why was this comparative not made as Thailand vs Germany or Thailand vs Japan or Thailand vs USA?

Before you jump back down my throat about quoting seemingly spurious GDP figures in your thread I would just like to say that this thread is spurious in its own right.

British car manufacturers build rubbish?

Mini Cooper

Land Rover Defender

Jaguar E-type

Aston Martin DB5 and 6

Lotus Exige

Noble M12

TVR Chimera

Caterham 7

Ford Escort (try to pick me up on that one...please!)

MG BGT

almost every F1 car

almost every WRC car

almost every F1 and WRC pit crew

I can go on. British cars are not about boredom and reliability. We buy German and Japanese when we want that. Our cars are about cold, dark, evenings and damp Saturday mornings covered in oil, cuts and bruises and then heading out proud with our head-turner on Saturday night and Sunday morning. Our cars are about battling nasty elements to have a great time. It is a cultural type that has led a nation to excel and provide the world with excitement, passion, love and desire (same reason why our music has always taken the world). The rest we leave to people who are good at it. BMW 7 series or 1960s Mini Cooper for putting a smile on your face?

[chiangmaikelly]

I answered more than once. You did not understand. Not my fault. Perhaps you should say you don't like my answer or don't agree with my answer. Or people will think you can't read. Post #155.

Yep read#155 - again you did not give any examples of Superior Thai Engineering or Superior Thai Production Technology you just trotted out your repeated statements about Thais assembling cars (which were Engineered and Designed overseas assembled in Thailand using Production Technology imported from overseas).

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Partly agree. Someone has absolutely no idea what I am talking about.

[chiangmaikelly]

As we live in Thailand why should we give a fwuck what some keyboard warrior has to say ,there must be a reason he hates the Brits ,i suppose he feels inferior in some way and anyway who gives a flying fart if Thailand produces more cars?

, spot on.

Well if you can't beat em next best thing is to say you don't care.

[chiangmaikelly]

I would imagine that the British Government is reading this thread and worrying endlessly about the advances of Thailand's economy.

UK GDP 2011 - $2,431,000,000,000 (#7)

Thailand GDP 2011 - $345,672,000,000 (#30)

UK GDP/Capita 2011 - $36,327 (#26)

Thailand GDP/Capita 2011 - $4,613 (#95)

Remember that the UK government would describe 2011 as a recession year whereas the Thai government described 2011 as a good year despite the floods. The UK won't stay in recession forever.

CMK, sorry to not be up to date with everybody's country of origin, but where are you from? What did the UK do to you as a person? Why was this comparative not made as Thailand vs Germany or Thailand vs Japan or Thailand vs USA?

Before you jump back down my throat about quoting seemingly spurious GDP figures in your thread I would just like to say that this thread is spurious in its own right.

British car manufacturers build rubbish?

Mini Cooper

Land Rover Defender

Jaguar E-type

Aston Martin DB5 and 6

Lotus Exige

Noble M12

TVR Chimera

Caterham 7

Ford Escort (try to pick me up on that one...please!)

MG BGT

almost every F1 car

almost every WRC car

almost every F1 and WRC pit crew

I can go on. British cars are not about boredom and reliability. We buy German and Japanese when we want that. Our cars are about cold, dark, evenings and damp Saturday mornings covered in oil, cuts and bruises and then heading out proud with our head-turner on Saturday night and Sunday morning. Our cars are about battling nasty elements to have a great time. It is a cultural type that has led a nation to excel and provide the world with excitement, passion, love and desire (same reason why our music has always taken the world). The rest we leave to people who are good at it. BMW 7 series or 1960s Mini Cooper for putting a smile on your face?

Don't tell fibs about me. I did not say nor did I ever say "British car manufacturers build rubbish?" Now say you are sorry and made a mistake.

[chiangmaikelly]

It is easy to compare UK auto sales 2010 1,393,463, Thailand 1,644,513. Now that wasn't hard was it?

Comparison in dollars please.

So many other levels and reasons to draw comparisons.

No. Debate etiquette rule #107. If you want another form of comparison besides the valid form that was presented you go look it up.

Your comparing apples to oranges CMK.

The majority of vehicles manufactured in Thailand are what for example are classified by Australia customs as agricultural vehicles and have a low import duty applied. Anything coming from the UK is usually deemed to be a luxury vehicle and higher duties applied.

The growth in Thailands pick up market would be IMO directly related to the general acceptance of owning what is essentially and work ute where as years ago they were just for miners and farmers.

I didn't say it was a bad idea. I just said look up the numbers yourself.

[GFY]

the op appears insane

[GuestHouse]

And still we wait of CMK to give us examples of Superior Thai Engineering or Superior Thai Production Technology.

Thais assembling cars Engineered and Designed by others is not an example of Thai engineering or Thai design.

Using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others is not an example of Thai Production Technology.

Come on CMK -

Give us an example of Superior Thai Engineering

Give us an example of Superior Thai Production Technology.

You claim these things exist - give us an example.

G

[transam]

And still we wait of CMK to give us examples of Superior Thai Engineering or Superior Thai Production Technology.

Thais assembling cars Engineered and Designed by others is not an example of Thai engineering or Thai design.

Using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others is not an example of Thai Production Technology.

Come on CMK -

Give us an example of Superior Thai Engineering

Give us an example of Superior Thai Production Technology.

You claim these things exist - give us an example.

G

He cannot, he works for a Thai Nuclear Reactor assembly plant at the mo.

[FritsSikkink]

Who gives a sh*t?

This thread is dedicated to all those who have posted negative comments about the Thai economy in the past few days. The reality is that Thai auto production is going to surpass the UK for the long term because of the quality of Thailand in many different areas.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/honda-flood-cars-in-thailand/

[GuestHouse]

]He cannot, he works for a Thai Nuclear Reactor assembly plant at the mo.

I'm sure when the BoI issue a Newsletter on the subject he'll be an expert on that too.

[chiangmaikelly]

And still we wait of CMK to give us examples of Superior Thai Engineering or Superior Thai Production Technology.

Thais assembling cars Engineered and Designed by others is not an example of Thai engineering or Thai design.

Using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others is not an example of Thai Production Technology.

Come on CMK -

Give us an example of Superior Thai Engineering

Give us an example of Superior Thai Production Technology.

You claim these things exist - give us an example.

G

Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others. The Thais are doing it better.

[StreetCowboy]

And still we wait of CMK to give us examples of Superior Thai Engineering or Superior Thai Production Technology.

Thais assembling cars Engineered and Designed by others is not an example of Thai engineering or Thai design.

Using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others is not an example of Thai Production Technology.

Come on CMK -

Give us an example of Superior Thai Engineering

Give us an example of Superior Thai Production Technology.

You claim these things exist - give us an example.

G

Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others. The Thais are doing it better.

I hadn't realised all those sports cars were using imported technology. I'll bet the Malaysians are raging about buying Lotus now. No wonder Red Bull do so well in the formula one with access to Thai technologuy, though eh?

SC

[draftvader]

I would imagine that the British Government is reading this thread and worrying endlessly about the advances of Thailand's economy.

UK GDP 2011 - $2,431,000,000,000 (#7)

Thailand GDP 2011 - $345,672,000,000 (#30)

UK GDP/Capita 2011 - $36,327 (#26)

Thailand GDP/Capita 2011 - $4,613 (#95)

Remember that the UK government would describe 2011 as a recession year whereas the Thai government described 2011 as a good year despite the floods. The UK won't stay in recession forever.

CMK, sorry to not be up to date with everybody's country of origin, but where are you from? What did the UK do to you as a person? Why was this comparative not made as Thailand vs Germany or Thailand vs Japan or Thailand vs USA?

Before you jump back down my throat about quoting seemingly spurious GDP figures in your thread I would just like to say that this thread is spurious in its own right.

British car manufacturers build rubbish?

Mini Cooper

Land Rover Defender

Jaguar E-type

Aston Martin DB5 and 6

Lotus Exige

Noble M12

TVR Chimera

Caterham 7

Ford Escort (try to pick me up on that one...please!)

MG BGT

almost every F1 car

almost every WRC car

almost every F1 and WRC pit crew

I can go on. British cars are not about boredom and reliability. We buy German and Japanese when we want that. Our cars are about cold, dark, evenings and damp Saturday mornings covered in oil, cuts and bruises and then heading out proud with our head-turner on Saturday night and Sunday morning. Our cars are about battling nasty elements to have a great time. It is a cultural type that has led a nation to excel and provide the world with excitement, passion, love and desire (same reason why our music has always taken the world). The rest we leave to people who are good at it. BMW 7 series or 1960s Mini Cooper for putting a smile on your face?

Don't tell fibs about me. I did not say nor did I ever say "British car manufacturers build rubbish?" Now say you are sorry and made a mistake.

Sorry you interpreted this against you. I was actually responding to a number of people in one go. I underlined the 2nd part to make it distinct from the first. I wasn't telling fibs, I just didn't provide clarity. Sorry about that, I hope this response covers that.

[SteeleJoe]

Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others. The Thais are doing it better.

Wait, what happened to the vaunted THAI Production Technology? (Leaving aside for the moment the superior Thai Engineering).

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Edited October 15, 2012 by SteeleJoe

[farang000999]

It is a top down approach, no doubt.

BANGKOK: -- On October 11, a fleet of some 1,000 boats would help push water from the Chao Phraya River into the sea fast, Science and Technology Minister Plodprasop Suraswadi said Saturday.

At the boat project launch held at Nonthaburi's Pakkred Pier with 40 boats attending, Plodprasop said that this voluntarybase project would help drain water three times faster, from two knots to six knots, and prevent floodwater from pouring into Bangkok City.

He said the 1,000boat fleet would push water down to the sea on October 11, as to help lower flood in the Chao Phraya Riverside provinces such as Sing Buri, Angthong and Ayutthaya.

[GuestHouse]

Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others. The Thais are doing it better.

No - Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble foreign designed cars - but the British also have their own technology applied in British cars that are widely regarded as some of the best automobiles in the world (sales rocketing even in this recession).

Thailand has no Thai engineered vehicles being sold anywhere.

Meanwhile the Thais are not assembling other foreign Engineered Designed Cars better than British assemblers - They simply are assembling behind restrictive import controls and some of the highest import duties anywhere in the world.

Nothing to do with Thai Engineering, Thai Production Technology or worker quality - CLOSED AND PROTECTED MARKETS.

[transam]

And still we wait of CMK to give us examples of Superior Thai Engineering or Superior Thai Production Technology.

Thais assembling cars Engineered and Designed by others is not an example of Thai engineering or Thai design.

Using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others is not an example of Thai Production Technology.

Come on CMK -

Give us an example of Superior Thai Engineering

Give us an example of Superior Thai Production Technology.

You claim these things exist - give us an example.

G

Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others. The Thais are doing it better.

, and please do tell us the workers pay packet difference.

[chiangmaikelly]

And still we wait of CMK to give us examples of Superior Thai Engineering or Superior Thai Production Technology.

Thais assembling cars Engineered and Designed by others is not an example of Thai engineering or Thai design.

Using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others is not an example of Thai Production Technology.

Come on CMK -

Give us an example of Superior Thai Engineering

Give us an example of Superior Thai Production Technology.

You claim these things exist - give us an example.

G

Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others. The Thais are doing it better.

, and please do tell us the workers pay packet difference.

What does union pay have to do with except but strong unions? I think we are talking about two different things. You are talking about unions forcing management to pay workers high salaries and the Thais are talking about cooperating with management to make a competitive product. Not apples and oranges really eh?

[chiangmaikelly]

Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others. The Thais are doing it better.

No - Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble foreign designed cars - but the British also have their own technology applied in British cars that are widely regarded as some of the best automobiles in the world (sales rocketing even in this recession).

Thailand has no Thai engineered vehicles being sold anywhere.

Meanwhile the Thais are not assembling other foreign Engineered Designed Cars better than British assemblers - They simply are assembling behind restrictive import controls and some of the highest import duties anywhere in the world.

Nothing to do with Thai Engineering, Thai Production Technology or worker quality - CLOSED AND PROTECTED MARKETS.

Thai exports are not in a closed and protected market. I don't know where you get that. I also don't know where import duties come into play when the Thais import raw materials.

[transam]

And still we wait of CMK to give us examples of Superior Thai Engineering or Superior Thai Production Technology.

Thais assembling cars Engineered and Designed by others is not an example of Thai engineering or Thai design.

Using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others is not an example of Thai Production Technology.

Come on CMK -

Give us an example of Superior Thai Engineering

Give us an example of Superior Thai Production Technology.

You claim these things exist - give us an example.

G

Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others. The Thais are doing it better.

, and please do tell us the workers pay packet difference.

What does union pay have to do with except but strong unions? I think we are talking about two different things. You are talking about unions forcing management to pay workers high salaries and the Thais are talking about cooperating with management to make a competitive product. Not apples and oranges really eh?

Never ever mentioned union, , l mentioned pay difference and perks waaaaaaaaaay back.

[farang000999]

you have to get them involved in engineering at a young age

[chiangmaikelly]

Both the British and the Thais are using imported Technology to assemble these cars engineered and designed by others. The Thais are doing it better.

, and please do tell us the workers pay packet difference.

What does union pay have to do with except but strong unions? I think we are talking about two different things. You are talking about unions forcing management to pay workers high salaries and the Thais are talking about cooperating with management to make a competitive product. Not apples and oranges really eh?

Never ever mentioned union, , l mentioned pay difference and perks waaaaaaaaaay back.

British auto workers are not union?

[chiangmaikelly]

I think you all are getting me all wrong. I don't think nor have I said there is anything wrong with British cars or British engineers.

The high point in British auto production was 1972 and I think that is great. Perhaps the glory days will come back some day.

I hope they do and good luck with that. I was in Thailand in 1972 and let me tell you back then there were few auto engineers in Thailand. I understand the justifiable pride the British had in their automotive industry.

[marstons]

Who gives a sh*t?

This thread is dedicated to all those who have posted negative comments about the Thai economy in the past few days. The reality is that Thai auto production is going to surpass the UK for the long term because of the quality of Thailand in many different areas.

Nothing to with the cheap labour force then, and working conditions long left behind behind by the western world.

[GuestHouse]

Thai exports are not in a closed and protected market. I don't know where you get that. I also don't know where import duties come into play when the Thais import raw materials.

Import Duties on Cars - From the Thai Customs Department can be found here [http://www2.customs.go.th/Customs-Eng/PersonalVehiclesPermanent/PermanentImport.jsp?menuNme=PersonalPer]

As you can see the total import taxes start at 187% and goes up to 328%.

Edited October 15, 2012 by GuestHouse

[chiangmaikelly]

Who gives a sh*t?

This thread is dedicated to all those who have posted negative comments about the Thai economy in the past few days. The reality is that Thai auto production is going to surpass the UK for the long term because of the quality of Thailand in many different areas.

Nothing to with the cheap labour force then, and working conditions long left behind behind by the western world.

It has a lot to do with cheap labor. But not only cheap labor. If it only had to do with labor I guess Burma or Laos would produce a lot of cars. Your homework assignment is to find out how much of the cost of production of an auto is labor. Report back to us if you want to add something of value to the thread.

[chiangmaikelly]

Thai exports are not in a closed and protected market. I don't know where you get that. I also don't know where import duties come into play when the Thais import raw materials.

Import Duties on Cars - From the Thai Customs Department can be found here ["]http://www2.customs....me=PersonalPer]

As you can see the total import taxes start at 187% and goes up to 328%.

Read my post again GH. I did not mention import duties on cars.

[farang000999]

<deleted> is ur point CMK?

[FritsSikkink]

almost every F1 car

Engines:

Ferrari 3 teams

Renault 4 teams

Mercedes 3 teams

Cosworth 2 teams

[GuestHouse]

Read my post again GH. I did not mention import duties on cars.

Import duties are the means of protecting the Thai Auto Assemblers and restricting access to the market - Doh !