Am I Being Overly Sensitive Or ....

[giddyup]

Anyone would think she actually enjoys labouring under the inept sexual administrations of a sweaty, decrepit walrus.

No, but every job's got its downside, and people have the capacity to get used to just about anything.

The fact that she's earning a months income for a couple of days mostly-hanging-out all expenses paid, that most of them enjoy yes indeed.

And the top girls do get to pick and choose their customers and turn down the too-old or too-fat depending on the season and when the rent's coming due.

Yes every job has its downside and what I described is enough of a downside for most hookers to feel somewhat reluctant to provide the "girlfriend experience".

I can't imagine it would be easy to have eyes only for an unattractive man who just wants to re-enact scenes from an internet porn movie.

Surely you can't be that naive? Do you a think a $5000-10000 a night hooker just lays there and stares at the ceiling? Of course not, she plays out every fantasy the guy who's paying has. Do you think that saame hooker only gets Brad Pitt look-alikes as customers? More likely some obese oil sheik.

[StreetCowboy]

I think the discussion has gone wildly off topic, perhaps a re-read of the opening post would be in order:

So there I am in the skytrain, crowded as usual and in comes two huge farangs (nationality withheld to protect the innocent) complete with their wife beater singlets. They were tall, beefy, hot, smelly and sweaty and of course they had to hold on to the strap, completely ignoring sister Nong, Noi, Nutch (take your pick) who unfortunately had their hairy armpits stuffed in the poor girls' face. I think the fact that they were loud, boorish and uncouth made it all the more embarrassing for me as I shared their guilt by association (not really).

My question is ... have you ever been in a situation where you cringe at the behaviour of other farangs. ... and yes I sometimes cringe at the behaviour of Thais too.

It's all about living the dream. Sometimes I get on the BTS in rush hour and pretend I'm a wage slave, but my little fantasy doesn't stretch to a jacket and tie, and it hardly seems worth shaving just for half an hour's ogling on the skytrain. Then it's off at Nana to line the Singhas up on Soi Seven for breakfast... it's quite comfy sitting outside at that time in the morning, if your vest's not too tight and the beer's chilled.

Live your dreams, I say!

SC

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Yes every job has its downside and what I described is enough of a downside for most hookers to feel somewhat reluctant to provide the "girlfriend experience".

I can't imagine it would be easy to have eyes only for an unattractive man who just wants to re-enact scenes from an internet porn movie.

On the other hand once you've got accustomed to one fellow, assuming he's a decent sort and not too stingy, much more pleasant for most to not have to go out fishing every night.

It's a rare girl that's actually looking to maximize income - they're usually looking for ease and comfort, low stress.

And one advantage of the older guys is they're often a lot less demanding and up themselves than the younger ones.

And more willing to shell out too on average.

[robblok]

That point, its too cheap and too easy, if it was a playboy bunny that you paid for yes by all means show her around. But a girl for rent in Thailand, come on that is like showing of your fake watch everyone can do that it has no value. That was what i mean with a fake watch. Nothing else.

Now you lost me - the value of something is determined by the price?

Have you actually been to the Playboy clubs? The beauty you see in the magazine's been 90% Photoshop long before the PC was invented, back in the day they used mechanical airbrushing.

Skanky old girls, not a one holds a candle to 90% of the totties I've been with here. Same even with the the USD $2000+ per night high-end escorts working the "members clubs" of Manhattan's financial district, not even close AFAIC.

And that's just physically, then when you take into account the inner beauty of a relatively unspoiled upcountry girl, nothing at all like a western girl who's decided to start turning tricks.

Not all sure, and by no means do I think any sex worker anywhere's something to walk around being proud of being able to rent but puhleeze don't start using solid gold against fake watch analogies there, just doesn't hold water.

I didn't grasp his point either (hence my response), insinuating that the Playboy Bunny is the "real thing", but the Thai bargirl is somehow "fake". Lost me.

Im saying the price does come into play for the brag factor. You show of a rolex because its hard to aquire, same with a rolex and rolls. Something that is easy to get you don't show off. If i go fishing i show of the real big ones not the ones everyone can catch. Sex workers everyone can catch no need to show them off.

And yes some guys do show them off, others don't. I got a problem with the guys showing them off like trophies. Otherwise no problem.

[robblok]

Yes every job has its downside and what I described is enough of a downside for most hookers to feel somewhat reluctant to provide the "girlfriend experience".

I can't imagine it would be easy to have eyes only for an unattractive man who just wants to re-enact scenes from an internet porn movie.

On the other hand once you've got accustomed to one fellow, assuming he's a decent sort and not too stingy, much more pleasant for most to not have to go out fishing every night.

It's a rare girl that's actually looking to maximize income - they're usually looking for ease and comfort, low stress.

And one advantage of the older guys is they're often a lot less demanding and up themselves than the younger ones.

And more willing to shell out too on average.

I agree, usually have more money too (older guys) and no other way of getting the girls then to shell out.

My younger friend was doing a looker of a girl but she was being kept by a guy my age and fugly. He did not have to pay a thing but he did, stupid actually open facebook profile and getting tagged on it from pics of her in insomnia with other guys. Friend told her i dont mind you got a sugar daddy but if you want to keep him lock your profile or else he will find out you ... around.

[HeavyDrinker]

I got a problem with the guys showing them off like trophies. Otherwise no problem.

Maybe some folks are proud of their wives/partners.

How do you define "Showing them off"?

Even after 20 years of marriage I'm incredibly proud to be seen out and about with my wife so does that make her a trophy wife?

[robblok]

I got a problem with the guys showing them off like trophies. Otherwise no problem.

Maybe some folks are proud of their wives/partners.

How do you define "Showing them off"?

Even after 20 years of marriage I'm incredibly proud to be seen out and about with my wife so does that make her a trophy wife?

Im not talking about wives here.

[chiangmaikelly]

Back on topic. Showing off eh? I don't think the OP has a clue because I don't think he lives in BKK. It is obvious that these two guys had a Thai GF showing them off. You know how Thai girls like Farangs with white skin. What the OP did not say is how white these guys were. Which is far more important than smelly. Think about the first French sailors that Thai women would have met. These are Frenchmen on a boat for months with no shower. You know that's gotta be bad. Then the Portuguese came along and wow they were unshowered on the boat for a long time too. So how about it OP where was the Thai lady taking care of these two gents?

[robblok]

Back on topic. Showing off eh? I don't think the OP has a clue because I don't think he lives in BKK. It is obvious that these two guys had a Thai GF showing them off. You know how Thai girls like Farangs with white skin. What the OP did not say is how white these guys were. Which is far more important than smelly. Think about the first French sailors that Thai women would have met. These are Frenchmen on a boat for months with no shower. You know that's gotta be bad. Then the Portuguese came along and wow they were unshowered on the boat for a long time too. So how about it OP where was the Thai lady taking care of these two gents?

could be kelly could be.

Just someone who has a problem with fat guys in muscle shirts.

[chiangmaikelly]

Back on topic. Showing off eh? I don't think the OP has a clue because I don't think he lives in BKK. It is obvious that these two guys had a Thai GF showing them off. You know how Thai girls like Farangs with white skin. What the OP did not say is how white these guys were. Which is far more important than smelly. Think about the first French sailors that Thai women would have met. These are Frenchmen on a boat for months with no shower. You know that's gotta be bad. Then the Portuguese came along and wow they were unshowered on the boat for a long time too. So how about it OP where was the Thai lady taking care of these two gents?

could be kelly could be.

Just someone who has a problem with fat guys in muscle shirts.

The more I think about it the more I think there is a Thai women who was with these two guys just the OP didn't notice her.

I have a friend who is major ugly. He is a lawyer. He has a beautiful wife and beautiful children. I don't know why he makes good looking babies but he does. I introduced him to his first wife. She told me I was nuts when she first saw him. But she married him. His nickname is snake.

[HardenedSoul]

Surely you can't be that naive? Do you a think a $5000-10000 a night hooker just lays there and stares at the ceiling? Of course not, she plays out every fantasy the guy who's paying has. Do you think that saame hooker only gets Brad Pitt look-alikes as customers? More likely some obese oil sheik.

Yes but we're not talking about $5,000-10,000 a night girls are we?

We're talking about the THB1,000-3,000-a-night Thai girls who are expected to provide this "girlfriend experience". A distinct difference wouldn't you agree?

Not at all, it's all relative. How much do you have to spend to get the girlfriend experience?

Haha !! Good Lord, man. I couldn't possibly tell you since I have no need to kid myself that liaisons with Thai women of that particular persuasion are anything but what they actually are.

As I said in a previous post on this thread, I wouldn't be seen dead walking down the street, into a cinema, at a restaurant or on the BTS with a prostitute - hand in hand or otherwise.

I wouldn't do it in the UK and I most certainly won't do it here.

Oh and the reason older guys pay more is because they have to. A girl will always ask for less from a younger, better-looking, better dressed man because she won't be as disgusted when actually doing the deed.

Edited November 12, 2012 by HardenedSoul

[robblok]

Back on topic. Showing off eh? I don't think the OP has a clue because I don't think he lives in BKK. It is obvious that these two guys had a Thai GF showing them off. You know how Thai girls like Farangs with white skin. What the OP did not say is how white these guys were. Which is far more important than smelly. Think about the first French sailors that Thai women would have met. These are Frenchmen on a boat for months with no shower. You know that's gotta be bad. Then the Portuguese came along and wow they were unshowered on the boat for a long time too. So how about it OP where was the Thai lady taking care of these two gents?

could be kelly could be.

Just someone who has a problem with fat guys in muscle shirts.

The more I think about it the more I think there is a Thai women who was with these two guys just the OP didn't notice her.

I have a friend who is major ugly. He is a lawyer. He has a beautiful wife and beautiful children. I don't know why he makes good looking babies but he does. I introduced him to his first wife. She told me I was nuts when she first saw him. But she married him. His nickname is snake.

Snake.. hmmm there is a guy who says his Thai nickname is annaconda. Kurnell i think would it be the same. Just joking.

[StreetCowboy]

Surely you can't be that naive? Do you a think a $5000-10000 a night hooker just lays there and stares at the ceiling? Of course not, she plays out every fantasy the guy who's paying has. Do you think that saame hooker only gets Brad Pitt look-alikes as customers? More likely some obese oil sheik.

Yes but we're not talking about $5,000-10,000 a night girls are we?

We're talking about the THB1,000-3,000-a-night Thai girls who are expected to provide this "girlfriend experience". A distinct difference wouldn't you agree?

Not at all, it's all relative. How much do you have to spend to get the girlfriend experience?

Haha !! Good Lord, man. I couldn't possibly tell you since I have no need to kid myself that liaisons with Thai women of that particular persuasion are anything but what they actually are.

As I said in a previous post on this thread, I wouldn't be seen dead walking down the street, into a cinema, at a restaurant or on the BTS with a prostitute - hand in hand or otherwise.

I wouldn't do it in the UK and I most certainly won't do it here.

Oh and the reason older guys pay more is because they have to. A girl will always ask for less from a younger, better-looking, better dressed man because she won't be as disgusted when actually doing the deed.

I wish I had your almost-psychic empathy for what other people are thinking and feeling.

SC

EDIT: To be honest, I'm surprised you go on about other blokes with rented girlfriends so much. Was it hookers that stole the doors off your motor?

Edited November 12, 2012 by StreetCowboy

[giddyup]

Surely you can't be that naive? Do you a think a $5000-10000 a night hooker just lays there and stares at the ceiling? Of course not, she plays out every fantasy the guy who's paying has. Do you think that saame hooker only gets Brad Pitt look-alikes as customers? More likely some obese oil sheik.

Yes but we're not talking about $5,000-10,000 a night girls are we?

We're talking about the THB1,000-3,000-a-night Thai girls who are expected to provide this "girlfriend experience". A distinct difference wouldn't you agree?

Not at all, it's all relative. How much do you have to spend to get the girlfriend experience?

Haha !! Good Lord, man. I couldn't possibly tell you since I have no need to kid myself that liaisons with Thai women of that particular persuasion are anything but what they actually are.

As I said in a previous post on this thread, I wouldn't be seen dead walking down the street, into a cinema, at a restaurant or on the BTS with a prostitute - hand in hand or otherwise.

I wouldn't do it in the UK and I most certainly won't do it here.

Oh and the reason older guys pay more is because they have to. A girl will always ask for less from a younger, better-looking, better dressed man because she won't be as disgusted when actually doing the deed.

Here we go again. Young hansum guy who gets all the Thai women falling over themselves to provide their favours, as opposed to ugly old troll who couldn't attract anyone without a handful of cash. Do you realise what a boring cliche it all is? It's funny, all the old guys (60 +) here that I know, myself included, are in long term relationships with their Thai ladies, whereas I see plenty of 30 something guys perched on bar stools staring forlornly into their beer.

Edited November 12, 2012 by giddyup

[HardenedSoul]

I wish I had your almost-psychic empathy for what other people are thinking and feeling.

SC

EDIT: To be honest, I'm surprised you go on about other blokes with rented girlfriends so much. Was it hookers that stole the doors off your motor?

I don't need to be psychic.

I only need to have the faculty to know that whatever it is that walks and talks like a duck is, in all likelihood, a duck.

As for my motor, it was the engineers at BMW who hid the doors.

[HardenedSoul]

Oh and the reason older guys pay more is because they have to. A girl will always ask for less from a younger, better-looking, better dressed man because she won't be as disgusted when actually doing the deed.

Here we go again. Young hansum guy who gets all the Thai women falling over themselves to provide their favours, as opposed to ugly old troll who couldn't attract anyone without a handful of cash. Do you realise what a boring cliche it all is?

Don't hate the player; hate the game.

I can't berate you for fighting your corner because you're elderly. Why berate me because I'm not . . . yet?

It's very rare that I even partake in the world's oldest transaction but if I do, it's bloody nice to be asked for a modest sum by a girl who demanded 3 or 4 times more from an older guy. I don't make the rules but I can't be blamed for benefitting from them.

Edited November 12, 2012 by HardenedSoul

[chiangmaikelly]

If you knew anything about the game you would know that a big mac costs the same if the customer is Thai, Farang, fat or skinny or old or young.

[Naam]

A girl will always ask for less from a younger, better-looking, better dressed man because she won't be as disgusted when actually doing the deed.

and if he wears a clean shirt with a multicoloured bowtie when doing the deed he will be hansumly rewarded with cash and jewelry... n'est-ce pas?

[Ulysses G.]

If you knew anything about the game you would know that a big mac costs the same if the customer is Thai, Farang, fat or skinny or old or young.

Exactly.

[chiangmaikelly]

A girl will always ask for less from a younger, better-looking, better dressed man because she won't be as disgusted when actually doing the deed.

and if he wears a clean shirt with a multicoloured bowtie when doing the deed he will be hansumly rewarded with cash and jewelry... n'est-ce pas?

Then again if you are real good looking.

Edited November 12, 2012 by chiangmaikelly

[robblok]

If you knew anything about the game you would know that a big mac costs the same if the customer is Thai, Farang, fat or skinny or old or young.

Probably right but a friend of mine living in Pattaya younger as me and probably more attractive too, gets regular freebees from the working girls. When they cant find a paying customer they go with him for free. Paying customers first of course. But i doubt there is a real difference in price unless we are talking extremes but i believe they will say no instead of asking crazy prices.

I don't have too much experience and so i leave this one to you as an expert.

[chiangmaikelly]

If you knew anything about the game you would know that a big mac costs the same if the customer is Thai, Farang, fat or skinny or old or young.

Probably right but a friend of mine living in Pattaya younger as me and probably more attractive too, gets regular freebees from the working girls. When they cant find a paying customer they go with him for free. Paying customers first of course. But i doubt there is a real difference in price unless we are talking extremes but i believe they will say no instead of asking crazy prices.

I don't have too much experience and so i leave this one to you as an expert.

I'd say Hugh Grant was the expert.

[GreenSnapper]

I see Thai blokes with their dollies all the time...

The whole "you never see Thai men with their hookers" is a load of Stickman <deleted>

I see it all the time too. The difference to the average Nana-farang is: the girls have whiter skin and are more expensive. They meet at nice restaurants, and not at 30 Baht noodle shops.

[metisdead]

As stated earlier, this topic has gone wildly off topic and as a number of posts discussing the specifics of prostitution have been removed, this topic is now closed.