poanoi Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 If they are bitching for a tip ? definitely ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 @tropo: No, not everyone in this world is looking for a free lunch Perhaps you aren't, but 100's of millions of people are and can't pay. To call them cheap charlies is an insult to humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) I saw them every now and then, drinking beer chang & whiskey, and then come over to me rubbing their tummy for a compassionate hand-out. Edited November 25, 2012 by poanoi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxboy Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 and i take thai style deep fried ribs in garlic I've tried these at Leng Kee on Pattaya Klang. Tastiest thing I've ever eaten in Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 @tropo: No, not everyone in this world is looking for a free lunch Perhaps you aren't, but 100's of millions of people are and can't pay. To call them cheap charlies is an insult to humanity. Must agree. Many ''I am alright Jack'' comments here. Blinkered in their own weeeee world, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marstons Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I agree with most of the TV posts here. Ladies who supply the massage get 50% of what is charged. So 50B an hour is not good. If the service is good and you are happy then tip. If not then don't and never return. Those who do not tip for a good service are CC's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 So what about a poor pensioner in Pattaya? He gets a pension of 20,000 baht a month. After, paying rent and essential expenses, he has about 300 baht a day for food. Is he not allowed to go for a massage for 100 baht every now and again, without being insulted as a CC? Tips are voluntary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxboy Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 So what about a poor pensioner in Pattaya? He gets a pension of 20,000 baht a month. After, paying rent and essential expenses, he has about 300 baht a day for food. Is he not allowed to go for a massage for 100 baht every now and again, without being insulted as a CC? Tips are voluntary. you are merely creating an 'exception to the rule' example. This thread is not about people who can't afford to tip, it is about people who can but don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 So what about a poor pensioner in Pattaya? He gets a pension of 20,000 baht a month. After, paying rent and essential expenses, he has about 300 baht a day for food. Is he not allowed to go for a massage for 100 baht every now and again, without being insulted as a CC? Tips are voluntary. you are merely creating an 'exception to the rule' example. This thread is not about people who can't afford to tip, it is about people who can but don't Is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 This thread is about understanding that if it wasn't for tips, the prices for a massage would not be 100thb and the poor pensioner would have to spend more to get one. So if you are not tipping, you are the one getting the free lunch (ie.. $3 1/hr massage). For those that don't want to recognize that. There is nothing more to be said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 So what about a poor pensioner in Pattaya? He gets a pension of 20,000 baht a month. After, paying rent and essential expenses, he has about 300 baht a day for food. Is he not allowed to go for a massage for 100 baht every now and again, without being insulted as a CC? Tips are voluntary. you are merely creating an 'exception to the rule' example. This thread is not about people who can't afford to tip, it is about people who can but don't People who tip excessively make it hard for those who can't afford it. You'll be saying next - old pensioners shouldn't be in Thailand, get massages or play golf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 My gf used to go to a place with only thai customers, usually females, fee was 100 baht/h Like i already said, she would on occasion tip 10-20 baht, but only if she thought the massage girl was good & put her back into it. It is safe to say that the rest of the customers was like minded. Alas the prices don't go up because of lack of tip, and we can also conclude that tip is not a custom in Thailand, except for certain parts where they came under bad influence of yanks. An honest person will never ask for tip and in most cases will reject any tip, especially if you know them well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 So what about a poor pensioner in Pattaya? He gets a pension of 20,000 baht a month. After, paying rent and essential expenses, he has about 300 baht a day for food. Is he not allowed to go for a massage for 100 baht every now and again, without being insulted as a CC? Tips are voluntary. you are merely creating an 'exception to the rule' example. This thread is not about people who can't afford to tip, it is about people who can but don't People who tip excessively make it hard for those who can't afford it. You'll be saying next - old pensioners shouldn't be in Thailand, get massages or play golf. Prices should be pitched at a level that will support management and staff so that tips are, as they should be, a bonus and not necessary for the workers survival. If that means that a pensioner can't afford a massage because the price is too high then so be it, but don't call him a CC just for paying what is asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) My gf used to go to a place with only thai customers, usually females, fee was 100 baht/hLike i already said, she would on occasion tip 10-20 baht, but only if she thought the massage girl was good & put her back into it. It is safe to say that the rest of the customers was like minded. Alas the prices don't go up because of lack of tip, and we can also conclude that tip is not a custom in Thailand, except for certain parts where they came under bad influence of yanks. An honest person will never ask for tip and in most cases will reject any tip, especially if you know them well And how can we conclude that other Thais are like minded to your gf? I'm pretty sure most Thais wouldn't want to stay with you. It's quite simple really, if you have no intention of tipping because that is your custom then just be honest and upfront with the person before your massage and if they choose to massage you anyways then you can't be accused of trying to get a free lunch. Edited November 25, 2012 by Jayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taff33 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 In all my working life I have never been given a tip for the job that I have done, why in my retierment should I give a tip to others. If you want to call me a C.C.,I don't really care, the money that is in my pocket is what I earned and that (as far as tips ) is where it will stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 YOU obviously know the answer to your post. I would say if you are a poor man as in broke, you should not post because you can't afford a tip. Short of that, let your conscience be your guide or else ask Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 My gf used to go to a place with only thai customers, usually females, fee was 100 baht/h Like i already said, she would on occasion tip 10-20 baht, but only if she thought the massage girl was good & put her back into it. It is safe to say that the rest of the customers was like minded. Alas the prices don't go up because of lack of tip, and we can also conclude that tip is not a custom in Thailand, except for certain parts where they came under bad influence of yanks. An honest person will never ask for tip and in most cases will reject any tip, especially if you know them well HELLO? To each his own but this is pretty much "out there" for me. Did I quote you in the entirety? "An honest person will never ask for tip and in most cases will reject any tip, especially if you know them well" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtampet Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Tip 200 bt ....and your'e not a Cheap Charlie.... - Only tip 100 bt next time......and you'll suddenly find you've become one ! got it in one mate.Had a few brekkies in pattaya recently,after a good walk.Always been good and tipped about 40%.A few days ago i took 3 mates in,and they got everything wrong,even not giving us the full meal,missing a rasher of bacon,no tomatoes,cofee ordered,tea was given,and a few more problems.Any way we decided no tip,due to pathetic service,they shunned us,never said thank you for your custom and have a nice day.It was the nose up in the air job,I will never eat there again,due to this bad service,and very poor attitude. Seems like an over-reaction to me, especially if you think the food there is good. How did you deal with the service shortcomings at the time? And a 40% tip is taking it to the other extreme! No wonder they were confused! Not an over reaction in the slightest,good service,good tip,bad service no tip,and if nasty too,then i dont go again. I can take my custom anywhere and i have used some establishments for 9 years and never had a bad reaction for not tipping due to uselss service,but i tip ok if good service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rgs2001uk Posted November 25, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2012 The problem with these 100 baht massage places is, 1. There are too many of them. 2. They have too many staff. 3. They have too many staff who dont have a clue what they are doing. 4. They arent enough customers to support them. Many of these girls are unemployable in any reputable massage parlour, thats why they stay where they are. People need to get out of Pattaya and see what happens in others parts of the country in places normal Thais frequent, they certainly arent throwing their money around like the 2 week millionaires Pattaya attracts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 In all my working life I have never been given a tip for the job that I have done, why in my retierment should I give a tip to others. If you were giving messages for 50 baht an hour then you might have a point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taff33 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 In all my working life I have never been given a tip for the job that I have done, why in my retierment should I give a tip to others. If you were giving messages for 50 baht an hour then you might have a point. Messages ?? no I was not a post man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Not a very good one anyway. Many people give their postman a tip at Christmastime if they are competent at the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) Not a very good one anyway. Many people give their postman a tip at Christmastime if they are competent at the job. I dont. Nothing to do with being competent. Its to do with knowing them well. Edited November 26, 2012 by Johnniey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) If you have to ask here then you are obviously feeling guilty. If you are feeling guilty then just tip for gods sakes or make a decision on your own. Edited November 26, 2012 by Rimmer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAceFace Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Giving the security guards a case of beers and food each xmas, they do well taking care of the village we live in and are always helpful....its nice to be nice. Yes Cheap Charlie = no tips. Do you have a Bells Whiskey bottle that you collect all your coins in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiBob Posted November 26, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2012 I was going to pass on this thread as I figured it would simply degenerate into another tipping vs non-tipping debate and it could easily get off track in that regard. The OP's question was about a specific situation and has nothing to do about tipping gas station attendants, tipping the postman or Santa Claus, tipping in Issarn or what Thais tip. We are in the tourist town of Pattaya whether some poor retiree likes it or not. The check bin was for 99 baht (< 2 GBP or 3 USD), the worker was likely to get a fraction of that and yet some people can not feel it in their heart to leave a tip. I do not understand why some people seem to get satisfaction is exploiting the situation of others. So yes, Dear OP, you are a Cheap Charlie (but you knew that) and that is being overly polite. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tolley Posted November 26, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2012 I was going to pass on this thread as I figured it would simply degenerate into another tipping vs non-tipping debate and it could easily get off track in that regard. The OP's question was about a specific situation and has nothing to do about tipping gas station attendants, tipping the postman or Santa Claus, tipping in Issarn or what Thais tip. We are in the tourist town of Pattaya whether some poor retiree likes it or not. The check bin was for 99 baht (< 2 GBP or 3 USD), the worker was likely to get a fraction of that and yet some people can not feel it in their heart to leave a tip. I do not understand why some people seem to get satisfaction is exploiting the situation of others. So yes, Dear OP, you are a Cheap Charlie (but you knew that) and that is being overly polite. Agreed. The CCs have kept this thread alive coming up with all sorts of nonsense excuses for not tipping. The list is quite staggering. I think they feel the need to justify themselves and their niggardly behaviour however they are not fooling anybody but themselves. Deep down they know they are CCs and we do too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taff33 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Not a very good one anyway. Many people give their postman a tip at Christmastime if they are competent at the job. And a lot of people don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 For us that has no history of tipping: Is there any sort of regulation whom to tip and whom to demand tip from ? Or should i pay tip each and every time i purchase anything ? At what situations can i demand tip ? Or should i demand a tip from everyone i see ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barack Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 For us that has no history of tipping: Is there any sort of regulation whom to tip and whom to demand tip from ? Or should i pay tip each and every time i purchase anything ? At what situations can i demand tip ? Or should i demand a tip from everyone i see ? What nonsense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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