Pep Guardiola

[StevieH]

manager of bayern munich from next season. dream on mancs.

[LaoPo]

I'm very surprised also

http://www.independe...er-8454282.html

and:

In Germany, the BILD tabloid shouts it from the roofs:

Bundesliga-Sensation!

http://www.bild.de/s...18654.bild.html

Contract untill 2016.

I wonder if Guardiola (a very kind wonderful man) can cope with the German Football culture in Bayern and that will NOT be easy.

Amazing news for Guardiola who spent his year off in New York, together with wife and children.

[StevieH]

i'm actually not that surprised. he doesn't need the money and it seems like a footballing choice. plus he's young, loads of time to manage one of those smaller clubs yet.

[mrbojangles]

Don't bother me stevie. You won't have seen me posting anywhere that I want him. Personally I think he's overrated and it seems the tabloids etc have fuelled the hype. I have always said I would like Mourinho and that hasn't changed.

[Yahooka]

LOL.............I bet not many saw that coming !! A proof that there is good football outside the PL and that some players and managers don`t always believe in the hype.......Lovely !!!!

[rijit]

No big surprise to me, the germans have their priorities right ie the no 1 priority is football, not money, As stevie h said its more a footballing choice than money ruling, but lets not be totally naive, i was listening to a former prem manager and he was saying the top German wages are every bit as good as prem wages and lets not forget although recently no major silver ware 2 back it up, barnyard's are in the top 6 clubs in Europe.

[nev]

Why would he come to england? chelsea don't give the manager a chance, city and united spurs have settled managers, arsenal maybe his only option here but wenger seems unsackable and liverpool are s**t living on past glories.

[LaoPo]

Don't bother me stevie. You won't have seen me posting anywhere that I want him. Personally I think he's overrated and it seems the tabloids etc have fuelled the hype. I have always said I would like Mourinho and that hasn't changed.

Are you serious?...Guardiola overrated? hmmm..

The difference between Pep Guardiola and Mourinho is that Mourinho never was an above average player (just 94 appearances with lower classed clubs) whilst Pep won almost everything as a football player with his teams in- and outside Spain (with 378 appearances) next to his achievements as a super coach.

He also played many times in the national Spanish team which Mourinho never achieved in his national team from Portugal.

Pep Guardiola has a much better technical football insight, seen through the eyes of a (former) top football player rather than Mourinho.

Apart from that, Guardiola is every inch a 100% Gentleman whilst Mourinho has a big mouth and plays "dirty" tricks as a coach; Pep doesn't need to do these things; it's below his style and class.

He's a beloved man, both by his own teams next to competiting teams as well.

He has style, class and dignity, qualities Mourinho will never possess.

Money? yes, but no class with big mouth

Also: Pep is just 41 whilst Mourinho will turn 50 this month. We'll wait another 10 years and see who achieved what, OK?

Latest:

AC Milan is after Mourinho as well...

Edited January 16, 2013 by LaoPo

[MrRed]

I really hope Mourinho does not choose to go to City.

[rijit]

Don't bother me stevie. You won't have seen me posting anywhere that I want him. Personally I think he's overrated and it seems the tabloids etc have fuelled the hype. I have always said I would like Mourinho and that hasn't changed.

Are you serious?...Guardiola overrated? hmmm..

The difference between Pep Guardiola and Mourinho is that Mourinho never was an above average player (just 94 appearances with lower classed clubs) whilst Pep won almost everything as a football player with his teams in- and outside Spain (with 378 appearances) next to his achievements as a super coach.

He also played many times in the national Spanish team which Mourinho never achieved in his national team from Portugal.

Pep Guardiola has a much better technical football insight, seen through the eyes of a (former) top football player rather than Mourinho.

Apart from that, Guardiola is every inch a 100% Gentleman whilst Mourinho has a big mouth and plays "dirty" tricks as a coach; Pep doesn't need to do these things; it's below his style and class.

He's a beloved man, both by his own teams next to competiting teams as well.

He has style, class and dignity, qualities Mourinho will never possess.

Money? yes, but no class with big mouth

Also: Pep is just 41 whilst Mourinho will turn 50 this month. We'll wait another 10 years and see who achieved what, OK?

Latest:

AC Milan is after Mourinho as well...

I have no preferences 2wards either imo both are spoilt brats, stick them in div 2 with no wedge and see how they do!!! yeah yeah yeah different i know but still u sort of know what i mean,

2 the post almost everything you list has virtually no relevance/reference to a coachs/managers abilities

but i would imagine what bo was referring to is that outside of barcelona pep has won nothing

whereas the golden gob has won titles and cups in three different countries

lets see how he does in germany b4 we super crown him.

[carmine]

Don't bother me stevie. You won't have seen me posting anywhere that I want him. Personally I think he's overrated and it seems the tabloids etc have fuelled the hype. I have always said I would like Mourinho and that hasn't changed.

Absolutely right. When Guardiola coaches a team of the size that say Porto was a few years ago, under Mourinho, to win the CL then he's worthy of some of the ridiculous hyde. Must have been so tough coaching that barca side!

heøs hardly taking any chances taking over at Bayern either.

[carmine]

Don't bother me stevie. You won't have seen me posting anywhere that I want him. Personally I think he's overrated and it seems the tabloids etc have fuelled the hype. I have always said I would like Mourinho and that hasn't changed.

Are you serious?...Guardiola overrated? hmmm..

The difference between Pep Guardiola and Mourinho is that Mourinho never was an above average player (just 94 appearances with lower classed clubs) whilst Pep won almost everything as a football player with his teams in- and outside Spain (with 378 appearances) next to his achievements as a super coach.

He also played many times in the national Spanish team which Mourinho never achieved in his national team from Portugal.

Pep Guardiola has a much better technical football insight, seen through the eyes of a (former) top football player rather than Mourinho.

Apart from that, Guardiola is every inch a 100% Gentleman whilst Mourinho has a big mouth and plays "dirty" tricks as a coach; Pep doesn't need to do these things; it's below his style and class.

He's a beloved man, both by his own teams next to competiting teams as well.

He has style, class and dignity, qualities Mourinho will never possess.

Money? yes, but no class with big mouth

Also: Pep is just 41 whilst Mourinho will turn 50 this month. We'll wait another 10 years and see who achieved what, OK?

Latest:

AC Milan is after Mourinho as well...

How good a footballer Mourinho was has no baring on his ability as a coach.

Just because Guardiola is a stand up bloke and Mourinho a classless berk has nothing to do with eithers ability.

Mourinho's achievements though are worthy of respect. he's won the CL with and without money and with a team, most of whose names fans couldn't have named as opposed to winning it with argueably the greatest midfield ever to play.

That the long and the short of it. Guardiola has an aweful lot to prove imho.

[smokie36]

He'll win bugger all in Germany.

Perhaps he just likes a bit of sausage?

[carmine]

He'll win bugger all in Germany.

Perhaps he just likes a bit of sausage?

Don't agree smokes. He'll probably win the win and has a great chance of a domestic double. Dortmund have lost some players haven't they and Bayern are the best team in Germany at present.

[MrRed]

A lot to prove for sure!

It will be interesting what Spaniards he signs won't it? and how much his budget is.

Lets be really honest here that Barca side did not need a manager there was that much talent in it.

He has taken the easy route now though City or United..Chelsea would of been a much tougher second managerial job for him.The sure thing is the boost this will give the Bundesliga for next season.

[carmine]

A lot to prove for sure!

It will be interesting what Spaniards he signs won't it? and how much his budget is.

Lets be really honest here that Barca side did not need a manager there was that much talent in it.

He has taken the easy route now though City or United..Chelsea would of been a much tougher second managerial job for him.The sure thing is the boost this will give the Bundesliga for next season.

Lets make it clear i do think he's a very good coach...the silverware haul is very impressive but then i look at the tools at his disposal.

A really good indication of his true ability would be to see if he could have won the title with the current Spurs team for example because i'm pretty sure Ferguson and Mourinho would have had a very good crack at it.

You are not a great coach because you had the privalege of coaching this current Barcalona team.

[MrRed]

I agree with you Carmine the manager at Barca now has done OK too hasn't he(11 points clear at the last count) and has also been away from the team with a health scare so it does prove our point.

[carmine]

I agree with you Carmine the manager at Barca now has done OK too hasn't he(11 points clear at the last count) and has also been away from the team with a health scare so it does prove our point.

It would suggest so wouldn't it

[StevieH]

Lets make it clear i do think he's a very good coach...the silverware haul is very impressive but then i look at the tools at his disposal.

A really good indication of his true ability would be to see if he could have won the title with the current Spurs team for example because i'm pretty sure Ferguson and Mourinho would have had a very good crack at it.

You are not a great coach because you had the privalege of coaching this current Barcalona team.

think guardiola took barca up several levels to be honest, he's an excellent coach. don't think he's the second coming of the lord or anything but he clearly really knows his business.

you could level the same accusation at mourinho by the way. went from the richest club in portugal to the richest club in england to the richest club in italy to the richest club in spain etc. he's never exactly been lacking resources, has had a pretty much unlimited chequebook in every job.

[sharecropper]

I wonder what Benitez thinks about this. Never in a million years would Guardiola been stupid enough to work for Abramovich, but it does now create an interesting opening for Rafa...if he could only win over the fans.

[StevieH]

I wonder what Benitez thinks about this. Never in a million years would Guardiola been stupid enough to work for Abramovich, but it does now create an interesting opening for Rafa...if he could only win over the fans.

decent chance that benitez will go to madrid in the summer. he won't stay where he isn't wanted and where they've given him that utterly ridiculous job title.

[carmine]

Lets make it clear i do think he's a very good coach...the silverware haul is very impressive but then i look at the tools at his disposal.

A really good indication of his true ability would be to see if he could have won the title with the current Spurs team for example because i'm pretty sure Ferguson and Mourinho would have had a very good crack at it.

You are not a great coach because you had the privalege of coaching this current Barcalona team.

think guardiola took barca up several levels to be honest, he's an excellent coach. don't think he's the second coming of the lord or anything but he clearly really knows his business.

you could level the same accusation at mourinho by the way. went from the richest club in portugal to the richest club in england to the richest club in italy to the richest club in spain etc. he's never exactly been lacking resources, has had a pretty much unlimited chequebook in every job.

I agree he's an excellent coach. All i'm saying is theres a way to go before his achievements match the ridiculous hype. I'm sure he will win the Bundesliga next season and it won't change my mind. Beating the likes of Madrid and Barca in the CL would go a lot further though.

On the point of Mourinho i think his winning the CL with Porto, despite being the richest club in Portugal is unrivalled in the CL in recent times.

[StevieH]

I agree he's an excellent coach. All i'm saying is theres a way to go before his achievements match the ridiculous hype. I'm sure he will win the Bundesliga next season and it won't change my mind. Beating the likes of Madrid and Barca in the CL would go a lot further though.

On the point of Mourinho i think his winning the CL with Porto, despite being the richest club in Portugal is unrivalled in the CL in recent times.

yeah, i think he sees them as about the best-placed club to rival barca and madrid now. be really interesting to see how he imposes his way of playing on them - plus it's worth mentioning that his old boss louis van gaal is the guy who put the current set-up in place at bayern.

porto weren't even the biggest achievement in the 2004 champions league - that was didier deschamps getting monaco to the final on a budget of less than nothing. but then i absolutely hate mourinho and am loathe to give him credit for anything whatsoever. he's a vile individual.

[carmine]

I agree he's an excellent coach. All i'm saying is theres a way to go before his achievements match the ridiculous hype. I'm sure he will win the Bundesliga next season and it won't change my mind. Beating the likes of Madrid and Barca in the CL would go a lot further though.

On the point of Mourinho i think his winning the CL with Porto, despite being the richest club in Portugal is unrivalled in the CL in recent times.

yeah, i think he sees them as about the best-placed club to rival barca and madrid now. be really interesting to see how he imposes his way of playing on them - plus it's worth mentioning that his old boss louis van gaal is the guy who put the current set-up in place at bayern.

porto weren't even the biggest achievement in the 2004 champions league - that was didier deschamps getting monaco to the final on a budget of less than nothing. but then i absolutely hate mourinho and am loathe to give him credit for anything whatsoever. he's a vile individual.

Actually i forgot about Deschamps and i agree with you.

i wonder what the press will be saying about Klopp if Dortmund, my dark horses, keep going in the CL. He's done a tremendous job there.

[jellydog]

Don't bother me stevie. You won't have seen me posting anywhere that I want him. Personally I think he's overrated and it seems the tabloids etc have fuelled the hype. I have always said I would like Mourinho and that hasn't changed.

Absolutely right. When Guardiola coaches a team of the size that say Porto was a few years ago, under Mourinho, to win the CL then he's worthy of some of the ridiculous hyde. Must have been so tough coaching that barca side!

heøs hardly taking any chances taking over at Bayern either.

Maybe he should go to Leeds and eat shitty porridge everyday.

[Chicog]

I actually wonder if Guardiola is as good as the hype. Yes he has the trophies but he didn't invent the Barcelona footballing culture, and he didn't invent Lionel Messi, either (not to mention Iniesta who to me is equally important to Barca's success).

But fair play to the bloke, he's stuck his neck out on a club with high expectations. He's obviously not afraid of a challenge.

[smokie36]

Pfft....you could say more of Benitez achievement.

[mjj]

Good luck to Pep and I can breath a sigh of relief as I think he would have failed at the bridge, possibly through not fault of his own.

Now, does this mean the special one is chelsea bound? I do hope so.

[LaoPo]

How Bayern Munich pulled off the coup of the season and landed Pep Guardiola

The 22-times German champions set the wheels in motion after their European Cup final home defeat against Chelsea

Raphael Honigstein

The Guardian, Wednesday 16 January 2013 19.40 GMT

The irony of this coup for Bayern is that its genesis lies in one of their worst defeats. Christian Nerlinger, sensing that his position as sporting director would come under intense pressure following the traumatic Champions League final loss at home to Chelsea in May, approached Pep Guardiola in the summer. The meeting with his brother, Pere, did not prove overly productive – a polite "let's talk in six months time" was the reply – nor was the ambitious attempt enough to save Nerlinger's job. The 39-year-old was replaced by Matthias Sammer before the start of the season.

Nevertheless, the record 22-times title winners had registered their firm interest and opened up a line of communication to convince Guardiola that their offer was worthy of consideration. Bayern realised early on that in pure financial terms they would not be able to match the riches available at Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City or Chelsea. So they focused on pointing out the similarities between Bayern and Barcelona instead.

Continues here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/16/pep-guardiola-bayern-munich

[SantiSuk]

Another step in the rise of the Bundesliga towards its goal of challenging the Premier League's worldwide dominance. It is already a better attended league than in England with several 80k plus stadia and several clubs have Stoke-like passion on their terraces. It does of course have the disadvantage of not speaking English (players and managers), but it has the advantage of having a lot of local and genuine football interest in its administration rather than pure money and business. Germany's regional/federal structure also helps - population and power is better distributed amongst a number of 1 million + cities than anywhere else in the world.

I think it has a decent shot of supplanting the EPL within 5 years and there will be the added bonus for us expats that transmission rights competitive pricing should keep our viewing costs down to something affordable. Without it I could have predicted us paying very significantly more next year and thereafter.

Time to brush up that German if you are a younger player or coach?