webfact Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Democrat leader, deputy to sue top DSI officials next week By English News BANGKOK, Jan 17 – Former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his then deputy Suthep Thaugsuban will file lawsuits against the head and four top officials of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) for abusing their power and falsely imposing charges against them in connection with the 2010 political upheaval in Bangkok. The two political heavy-weights discussed with the Democrat Party’s legal team, led by Thaworn Senneam, for over two hours on Wednesday to pinpoint charges against DSI director general Tarit Pengdith and four other DSI officials. Mr Thaworn said the DSI officials unlawfully charged Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep with initiating the murders of people during the political disorder when they, in fact, only carried out their duty under the emergency decree. The Civil Court ruled twice that the Red Shirt rally was against the law and demonstrators carried arms which resulted in fatal shootings of state authorities and crisis in the nation, he said. The Democrat lawyer said the then government was duty-bound to maintain peace and order in the country and authorised to order government officials to keep public order in accord with the emergency decree. Mr Thaworn said Mr Tarit and the four other DSI officials put charges against Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep as “ordinary civilians,” not as prime minister and deputy prime minister – their positions while on peace-keeping duty. The DSI intentionally investigated the case instead of submitting it to the National Anti-Corruption Commission, an action which is a breach of Articles 200 and 157 of the Criminal Code, he said, adding that the DSI officials also violated Article 309 of the Criminal Code for confining the two former politicians for questioning which lasted more than 10 hours. Mr Thaworn said he will file the lawsuit with the court next week but Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung will be excluded due to insufficient evidence. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2013-01-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thait Spot Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2013 High time Tarit was called to account Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MunterHunter Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2013 Good - about time! The Governments Attack Dog needs to be brought to account for their snarling, growling and (attempting to) bite on command of the Fugitive Thaksin. The only sad bit about this news is the DPM Chalerm cant be brought down as well, hes a nasty piece of work and should face his crimes in court like a man. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2013 this just keeps getting better, finally we see someoine attacking the red shirt attack dogs, about time. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Locationthailand Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2013 I don't know what the DSI thought they could achieve other than by doing the bidding of certain politicians to run 'interference' on behalf of the Government. It's pretty straight forward and did not even warrant commencement. 1. in fact, only carried out their duty under the emergency decree 2. Civil Court ruled twice that the Red Shirt rally was against the law and demonstrators carried arms Enough said. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EyesWideOpen Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2013 Good. About time to rein in this nonsense of using the DSI as an attack mechanism. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisswe Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Now shown the world if there is any fair justice in this country ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysoul Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 They should start to play tennis : it's easier to count points and easier to see when the ball goes "out" ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GentlemanJim Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2013 All of this stuff would make a really good channel 3 soap opera!....................Doh! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 All of this stuff would make a really good channel 3 soap opera!....................Doh! Too far fetched! Even soaps should have some sense of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Tit for tat,,,and the dance continue........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It is interesting that they are charging them as individuals, rather than as officials. This tells me that they want to avoid any precedent that might be set for investigating and charging any former PMs for crimes committed during their term! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It is interesting that they are charging them as individuals, rather than as officials. This tells me that they want to avoid any precedent that might be set for investigating and charging any former PMs for crimes committed during their term! Or to insulate the slippery Tarit from legalities. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Tit for tat,,,and the dance continue........ Sort of.........call it Tit for Tarit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Now shown the world if there is any fair justice in this country ! If there is fair justice, the charges will be dropped, along with Tarit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 RELATED ARTICLE 2010 POLITICAL MAYHEM Inconclusive inquest not affect murder charges against Abhisit : DSI The Nation File photo : Tharit BANGKOK: -- The inconclusive inquest into the death of a man killed during the 2010 political unrest will not affect murder charges against the previous government, the chief of the Department of Special Investigation said Thursday. Full story: http://www.thaivisa....s/#entry6028010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Mr Thaworn said Mr Tarit and the four other DSI officials put charges against Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep as “ordinary civilians,” not as prime minister and deputy prime minister – their positions while on peace-keeping duty. Surely, as "ordinary civilians", they had no authority to order the army to do anything, so anything the army did was of it's own accord. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The drama's continue . . . nice to see them biting back though. Complete waste of time I don't know what the DSI thought they could achieve other than by doing the bidding of certain politicians to run 'interference' on behalf of the Government. It's pretty straight forward and did not even warrant commencement. 1. in fact, only carried out their duty under the emergency decree 2. Civil Court ruled twice that the Red Shirt rally was against the law and demonstrators carried arms Enough said. Exactly what I said from the beginning . . . the whole thing is a joke and it's good to see them biting back a little now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Mr Thaworn said Mr Tarit and the four other DSI officials put charges against Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep as “ordinary civilians,” not as prime minister and deputy prime minister – their positions while on peace-keeping duty. Surely, as "ordinary civilians", they had no authority to order the army to do anything, so anything the army did was of it's own accord. Inserting a sliver of logic into a farce doesn't work I'm afraid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 How do you sue an organisation for charging you with something? Surely rather counter intuitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Abhisit et al should now start to really apply some pressure to these lackies, get after them while they still have their tails well and truly between their legs. Wonder how long before we hear from the fugitive mouthing off in their defence, "they were only doing their job, it had nothing to be with me - bla bla bla" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 How do you sue an organisation for charging you with something? Surely rather counter intuitive? They're not. They are going to sue individuals which is the same as Tarit & co did with Abhisit & Suthep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 How do you sue an organisation for charging you with something? Surely rather counter intuitive? Read it again . . . The DSI intentionally investigated the case instead of submitting it to the National Anti-Corruption Commission, an action which is a breach of Articles 200 and 157 of the Criminal Code, he said, adding that the DSI officials also violated Article 309 of the Criminal Code for confining the two former politicians for questioning which lasted more than 10 hours. The DSI broke the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 How do you sue an organisation for charging you with something? Surely rather counter intuitive? You can sue the police for false arrest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It beggars belief that you can sue a leader of a government, while the country is under emergency powers, this situation should not have got to the stage that it did, me thinks Abhisit was too kind and generous to that crowd of illiterate morons, try that trick in some of our more so called advanced societies and see how far you get,no, Abhisit you were to darn soft, betcha ya don't do that again , if there ever is a re-run, you have my support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Mr Thaworn said Mr Tarit and the four other DSI officials put charges against Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep as “ordinary civilians,” not as prime minister and deputy prime minister – their positions while on peace-keeping duty. Surely, as "ordinary civilians", they had no authority to order the army to do anything, so anything the army did was of it's own accord. I didn't realise they had charged them as civilians so you've made a good point. I've always wondered why the army went and murdered those people when Abhisit told them to if he was just a puppet of the military. I think this is an example of lack of forward thinking. An all too common occurrence from what I've seen. Just say something and hope nobody notices you've spoken rubbish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 How do you sue an organisation for charging you with something? Surely rather counter intuitive? Read it again . . . The DSI intentionally investigated the case instead of submitting it to the National Anti-Corruption Commission, an action which is a breach of Articles 200 and 157 of the Criminal Code, he said, adding that the DSI officials also violated Article 309 of the Criminal Code for confining the two former politicians for questioning which lasted more than 10 hours. The DSI broke the law. That's not established yet. It's only the assertion of Abhisit's lawyer. I hope you don't believe everything that leaves the mouth of a lawyer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axact Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You are not suggesting that Thai lawyers are not 100% honest surely ? You shock me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 In the mean time we're not really getting any further with trying to understand the March - May 2010 activities or who's responsible. The only thing clear it that no UDD leader is responsible it seems. K. Tarit suggested so "If further evidence pointed to Boonmee being shot by one of the "men in black" or "unknown armed fighters", the DSI would not charge the redshirt leaders because there was no evidence showing from whom they had received orders." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldsailor35 Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2013 It beggars belief that you can sue a leader of a government, while the country is under emergency powers, this situation should not have got to the stage that it did, me thinks Abhisit was too kind and generous to that crowd of illiterate morons, try that trick in some of our more so called advanced societies and see how far you get,no, Abhisit you were to darn soft, betcha ya don't do that again , if there ever is a re-run, you have my support. More advanced societies would not have been shooting their own people with live ammunition. Maybe rubber bullets and tear gas as the 'advanced' society did in N Ireland. But to turn your army loose on civilians with real bullets surely is a criminal and filthy low act. Of course Khun Suthep and his "yes" man AV won't see it this way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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