Bangkok Court To Trial Son Of Red Bull Executive

[Asiantravel]

Very interesting to see the outcome..

But, knowing Thailand.... and the justice system...

probably wont be shocked at the outcome...

I disagree! They know the whole world is watching this case and the outcome. This is one they will have to play by the book. Otherwise become a laughing stock as far as the judicial system is concerned, and undo the Prime Minister's pledge to crack down on corruption when she shared the stage with Obama recently.

[Pimay1]

Geez, guys. It's not as if a farang got killed. Just some undoubtedly corrupt cop. Guy should get a reward.

If this is not a staire post you are a sick puppy.

[Card]

Geez, guys. It's not as if a farang got killed. Just some undoubtedly corrupt cop. Guy should get a reward.

If this is not a staire post you are a sick puppy.

Yeah right he is. Not thinking about his family at least.

[dunque]

Xxxxxxx' idiots. 2nd degree murder (a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility) - not manslaughter, possession of narcotics, driving under the influence, driving in a manner dangerous and culpable driving, then add speed etc and then lying to pervert the course of Justice. A student prosecutor could nail this rich brats ass to the wall but you can bet the loopholes will all be found at the 11th hour, technical with the arresting officers etc. Thailand's Justice system, for the rich and famous...

A bit more than Teddy Kennedy got though

[SOTIRIOS]

....speeding........hit and run.........manslaughter.......

(...but please don't tarnish his name by mentioning what it had been reported that he was under the influence of...and speeding to get some more...)

.....besides, he wore black and said sorry.....

[PETERTHEEATER]

170 km/h on Sukhumvit ?

Sukhumvit Road is very long. May have been outside the city

[tingtongfarang]

170 km/h on Sukhumvit ?

Sukhumvit Road is very long. May have been outside the city

Dont think it was outside the city, It happened around the thonglor area.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts have been removed.

[ZhouZhou]

A suspended sentence would be an admission by the Thai courts that they are utterly impotent, and unable to offer any sort of justice for the nation. It would mean the entire justice is badly in need of reform, which the entire world knows anyway. The Thai judicial system is the laughing stock, of the planet. It is considered a monkey court. Anyone with money walks. Shame on them. Shame on the govt., for allowing this.

the judical system acts independent from the government.

it is called separation of powers.

[khunken]

So I guess the clocks on each cam were synced perfectly to get this time you mention ??? lol yeah buddy, another tv expert. Some of you need to get real this is thailand and like I said before if this kind of corruption bothers you so much you really shouldnt be here. Doesnt matter if you are rich or poor here you can buy your way out of anything, and im betting if this was your son you wouldnt be so high and mighty about it. So go pay your 200 baht to the cops again and brag about your well connected friends you use to circumvent the system here (like everyone does), but quit picking on the guy just because he has money.

Pretty close to worst post of the day.

If you are rich you can buy your way out of most crimes. If you're poor you can only buy your way out of petty crime.

Most people, including me, are picking on this guy because he killed someone. Many say that because he is rich, he'll get away with little or no punishment.

His family have already tried, with the aid of a corrupt senior policemen, to use a driver to take the rap. We on TV can only guess at all the machinations between his family, the police & small change compensation to the family of the dead policeman.

I think it's fair to say that most Thais & Farangs want to see justice but are highly sceptical of getting it in this case.

[thunder30101]

Gee I hope someday to have such insight into the thai system to call myself khun. You should get out of your gated community more often and realize this is thai justice and the way it works for everyone rich and poor. Most thais dont care about justice because they dont know anything about it, thats not the system they were raised in. Again another farang beating his western valued chest about these savages not doing the right thing.

[Baerboxer]

A suspended sentence would be an admission by the Thai courts that they are utterly impotent, and unable to offer any sort of justice for the nation. It would mean the entire justice is badly in need of reform, which the entire world knows anyway. The Thai judicial system is the laughing stock, of the planet. It is considered a monkey court. Anyone with money walks. Shame on them. Shame on the govt., for allowing this.

the judical system acts independent from the government.

it is called separation of powers.

[khunken]

Gee I hope someday to have such insight into the thai system to call myself khun. You should get out of your gated community more often and realize this is thai justice and the way it works for everyone rich and poor. Most thais dont care about justice because they dont know anything about it, thats not the system they were raised in. Again another farang beating his western valued chest about these savages not doing the right thing.

I presume you were responding to me. I suggest laying off the senseless dig at a TV name as it's getting close to flaming.

For what it's worth, I don't live in a gated community & have travelled all over Thailand & I understand Thai values better than your arrogant view. I do not regard any Thai as a savage so you can put that back in your narrow mind. Most Thais DO care about justice, they either are too busy feeding themselves & their family to let it concern them or they are too afraid to pursue it.

[EyesWideOpen]

People are missing the most fascinating part of this case. You would think the police would be doing everything possible to nail this guy to the wall, since this punk killed a ranking policeman. Instead they are doing the exact opposite, doing everything possible to help get this guy off. ????????

Here is a hint. When Thailand starts to look mysterious to you, to instantly clear things up, just go with the concept of follow the money. I think the family of the punk kid gave chump change to the policeman family , but has given SERIOUS money to the police to make this go away at the investigative level. Courts are a crap shoot, best not to enter there as some judge may find some back bone and actually sentence out some real jail time.

[spidermike007]

A suspended sentence would be an admission by the Thai courts that they are utterly impotent, and unable to offer any sort of justice for the nation. It would mean the entire justice is badly in need of reform, which the entire world knows anyway. The Thai judicial system is the laughing stock, of the planet. It is considered a monkey court. Anyone with money walks. Shame on them. Shame on the govt., for allowing this.

the judical system acts independent from the government.

it is called separation of powers.

Wow. Wouldn't that be wonderful if it were actually the case. But, here in the LOS it is not. The government exercises control, and the judges respond. Do you actually think they have an independent judiciary here?

Rather than break it down for you, I will quote the following, from the international business anti corruption portal:

Thailand's judicial system functions at a very slow pace. According to Global Integrity 2007, appeals of criminal cases can take 10-15 years to be resolved, while appeals of civil cases can take 5-10 years to resolve. Such drawn-out procedures encourage the bribing of civil servants charged with overseeing regulations to speed up legal procedures and such practice is reportedly common. In Thailand´s Anti-Corruption Strategy 2010 released by the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC), the judicial system is described as weak and continuously manipulated by influential people, such as the Thai mafia and politicians. However, according to Transparency International Global Corruption Barometer 2010/2011, only a small percentage of the surveyed households who had contact with the judiciary in the past 12 months reported having paid a bribe.

The US Department of State 2011 reports that the government provides free legal advice to the poor; however, there were NGO reports of instances where these legal aid lawyers forced their clients to pay extra fees directly to them. According to human rights groups, the lack of progress in several high-profile cases involving alleged police and military abuse have diminished the public's trust in the justice system.

Business Corruption

According to the US Department of State 2012, Thailand's judiciary enforces property and contract rights effectively. However, it should be mentioned that the legal process is very lengthy. On a positive note, enforcement of bankruptcy judgments has been eased and streamlined since 2004.

Litigants sometimes influence judgments by extra-legal means, including bribes. According to the US Department of State 2011, although the judiciary generally is considered independent, it is subject to corruption and outside influences. Companies need to be aware that decisions by foreign courts are not recognised in Thai courts and thus cannot be enforced. Therefore, disputes that need to be settled in court and recognised in Thailand have to go through the Thai justice system.

Political Corruption

Corruption and self-interested behaviour is found throughout the political and judicial system. Global Integrity 2007states that judicial corruption is rampant and that it largely goes unpunished. Judges' decisions are not always impartial and may be influenced by personal relationships. This is supported by the US Department of State 2011, which reports that the judicial system is subject to external influences and corruption, and lacks progress in tackling high-profile cases such as police and military abuse of power. In addition, the Bertelsmann Foundation 2012 also states that the judiciary is corrupt to a certain extent. On a positive note, according to Freedom House 2012, with the new Constitution of 2007, the judicial independence is guaranteed. However, it remains to be seen whether a more impartial judiciary will result from it.

[pacovl46]

And they dropped the charges of driving under the influence because?

Hi-So bonus.

[axact]

I'm waiting for this verdict as it plays a part in determining my future travels; if he never spends any time in prison, I never travel to Thailand again!

As if anyone would notice your absence, or miss you.

Maybe you should contact the judge for this case and let him know your stance, it could affect the outcome.

You, unsurprisingly, miss the point!

Next stop Cambodia for you. If you don't want corrupt stay in Eurozone!

And the Eurozone is not corrupt ? Explain the missing billions from the EC that probably found its way into some MEP or staff pockets.

Corruption is alive and well in Europe its just not as visable as some other countries......

[ZhouZhou]

A suspended sentence would be an admission by the Thai courts that they are utterly impotent, and unable to offer any sort of justice for the nation. It would mean the entire justice is badly in need of reform, which the entire world knows anyway. The Thai judicial system is the laughing stock, of the planet. It is considered a monkey court. Anyone with money walks. Shame on them. Shame on the govt., for allowing this.

the judical system acts independent from the government.

it is called separation of powers.

Wow. Wouldn't that be wonderful if it were actually the case. But, here in the LOS it is not. The government exercises control, and the judges respond. Do you actually think they have an independent judiciary here?

Rather than break it down for you, I will quote the following, from the international business anti corruption portal:

Thailand's judicial system functions at a very slow pace. According to Global Integrity 2007, appeals of criminal cases can take 10-15 years to be resolved, while appeals of civil cases can take 5-10 years to resolve. Such drawn-out procedures encourage the bribing of civil servants charged with overseeing regulations to speed up legal procedures and such practice is reportedly common. In Thailand´s Anti-Corruption Strategy 2010 released by the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC), the judicial system is described as weak and continuously manipulated by influential people, such as the Thai mafia and politicians. However, according to Transparency International Global Corruption Barometer 2010/2011, only a small percentage of the surveyed households who had contact with the judiciary in the past 12 months reported having paid a bribe.

The US Department of State 2011 reports that the government provides free legal advice to the poor; however, there were NGO reports of instances where these legal aid lawyers forced their clients to pay extra fees directly to them. According to human rights groups, the lack of progress in several high-profile cases involving alleged police and military abuse have diminished the public's trust in the justice system.

Business Corruption

According to the US Department of State 2012, Thailand's judiciary enforces property and contract rights effectively. However, it should be mentioned that the legal process is very lengthy. On a positive note, enforcement of bankruptcy judgments has been eased and streamlined since 2004.

Litigants sometimes influence judgments by extra-legal means, including bribes. According to the US Department of State 2011, although the judiciary generally is considered independent, it is subject to corruption and outside influences. Companies need to be aware that decisions by foreign courts are not recognised in Thai courts and thus cannot be enforced. Therefore, disputes that need to be settled in court and recognised in Thailand have to go through the Thai justice system.

Political Corruption

Corruption and self-interested behaviour is found throughout the political and judicial system. Global Integrity 2007states that judicial corruption is rampant and that it largely goes unpunished. Judges' decisions are not always impartial and may be influenced by personal relationships. This is supported by the US Department of State 2011, which reports that the judicial system is subject to external influences and corruption, and lacks progress in tackling high-profile cases such as police and military abuse of power. In addition, the Bertelsmann Foundation 2012 also states that the judiciary is corrupt to a certain extent. On a positive note, according to Freedom House 2012, with the new Constitution of 2007, the judicial independence is guaranteed. However, it remains to be seen whether a more impartial judiciary will result from it.

the judical system acts independent from the government. period.

If you think it is otherwise i recommend to study the law in thailand before making such claims.

[Thereisnoif]

There never was a rule of law in this feudal kleptocracy. This revolting piece of Hi-So <deleted> will not spend even one second behind bars .

[NewlyMintedThai]

Seems some posters din't know the difference between "rich" and "hi-so".

[Almera]

And they dropped the charges of driving under the influence because?

They couldn't prove the intoxicants entered the body before or after the accident.

[Almera]

If he spends one second in jail my name is Somchai McTurdsack.

[Thereisnoif]

Seems some posters din't know the difference between "rich" and "hi-so".

In Thailand, none whatsoever .

[NewlyMintedThai]

Seems some posters din't know the difference between "rich" and "hi-so".

In Thailand, none whatsoever .

Big, BIG difference.

[Almera]

^ Not if they are at least half Thai and have very bleached white skin.

[vijer]

170 km/h on Sukhumvit ?

In a Ferrari, sure! At 3am it is easy. I can go 120 without a problem in my little Toyota.

[Almera]

^ Probably just a 3rd gear roll-on.

Which became a roll-over.

Edited April 5, 2013 by Almera

[hellodolly]

the judical system acts independent from the government.

it is called separation of powers.

Wow. Wouldn't that be wonderful if it were actually the case. But, here in the LOS it is not. The government exercises control, and the judges respond. Do you actually think they have an independent judiciary here?

Rather than break it down for you, I will quote the following, from the international business anti corruption portal:

Thailand's judicial system functions at a very slow pace. According to Global Integrity 2007, appeals of criminal cases can take 10-15 years to be resolved, while appeals of civil cases can take 5-10 years to resolve. Such drawn-out procedures encourage the bribing of civil servants charged with overseeing regulations to speed up legal procedures and such practice is reportedly common. In Thailand´s Anti-Corruption Strategy 2010 released by the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC), the judicial system is described as weak and continuously manipulated by influential people, such as the Thai mafia and politicians. However, according to Transparency International Global Corruption Barometer 2010/2011, only a small percentage of the surveyed households who had contact with the judiciary in the past 12 months reported having paid a bribe.

The US Department of State 2011 reports that the government provides free legal advice to the poor; however, there were NGO reports of instances where these legal aid lawyers forced their clients to pay extra fees directly to them. According to human rights groups, the lack of progress in several high-profile cases involving alleged police and military abuse have diminished the public's trust in the justice system.

Business Corruption

According to the US Department of State 2012, Thailand's judiciary enforces property and contract rights effectively. However, it should be mentioned that the legal process is very lengthy. On a positive note, enforcement of bankruptcy judgments has been eased and streamlined since 2004.

Litigants sometimes influence judgments by extra-legal means, including bribes. According to the US Department of State 2011, although the judiciary generally is considered independent, it is subject to corruption and outside influences. Companies need to be aware that decisions by foreign courts are not recognised in Thai courts and thus cannot be enforced. Therefore, disputes that need to be settled in court and recognised in Thailand have to go through the Thai justice system.

Political Corruption

Corruption and self-interested behaviour is found throughout the political and judicial system. Global Integrity 2007states that judicial corruption is rampant and that it largely goes unpunished. Judges' decisions are not always impartial and may be influenced by personal relationships. This is supported by the US Department of State 2011, which reports that the judicial system is subject to external influences and corruption, and lacks progress in tackling high-profile cases such as police and military abuse of power. In addition, the Bertelsmann Foundation 2012 also states that the judiciary is corrupt to a certain extent. On a positive note, according to Freedom House 2012, with the new Constitution of 2007, the judicial independence is guaranteed. However, it remains to be seen whether a more impartial judiciary will result from it.

the judical system acts independent from the government. period.

If you think it is otherwise i recommend to study the law in thailand before making such claims.

You are correct.

However they seem to be doing what the government tells them to do.

[Roadman]

Who cares?

Its up to the Thai people.to protest.

Nothing to do with people who stay here at the whim of the immigration office.

It certainly doesn't impact on your lives,in any shape or form.

Amazingly stupid comment and applauded for by all Thai- apologists.

I hope -not really- that you or someone you (apologists) love, is subject to any crime like this!

Maybe you will wake up from your world of fluffy rabbits then!

Agree with absolutely stupid thinking. For one minute they could not think that it could be their partner or daughter on the motorcycle that was killed.

[EyesWideOpen]

Seems some posters din't know the difference between "rich" and "hi-so".

In Thailand, none whatsoever .

Big, BIG difference.

You are correct. Rich is a clever Thai-Chinese merchant with a few businesses and a late model Mercedes. Hiso is when your last name is Ayutthaya like the girl who killed the people in the van on the expressway...

So if the little people are screaming for blood, the government is willing to throw a couple of rich people under the bus. The true hiso people will never ever face one second of any kind of punishment.