Bangkok's Rattanakosin Residents Want To See F1 Race Plan

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Rattanakosin residents want to see F1 race plan
Lerpong Amsa-ngiam
The Nation



BANGKOK: -- Communities around the Rattanakosin Island area have demanded to see the proposal regarding a Formula One car race, as they prepared to launch a huge campaign this Saturday to prevent such an event being staged in their locality in 2015.

Parntip Likkachai, leader of Youth Banglamphu Community, said Rattanakosin area residents deserved to read the Master Plan by the Sports Authority of Thailand, acting on behalf of the Ministry of Tourism and Sports, to host the country's first-ever F1 race. The plan proposed to stage the event around Rattanakosin Island.

Representatives from 20 communities convened on Saturday at Thammasat University's Tha Prachan campus to discuss the protection of historical sites on Rattanakosin Island from the F1 event.

"So far we have heard about this project from the media and others, but we have yet to see what is in the plan of the Ministry of Tourism and Sports. We have to see the proposal in detail and study the impact on historical sites and our way of life," said Parnthip, who added that the communities' priority now is to create public awareness about the F1 race through a campaign this Saturday.

"Each community will make its own 'No F1' banners and gather at Democracy Monument at 4pm on Saturday to form a bicycle parade around Rattanakosin Island. We will distribute leaflets to residents in the area to inform them about the impact from the F1 race to the environment and their lives," said Parntip, who explained that her community was not opposed to the F1 race in Thailand, but wanted concerned authorities to find other routes that would be more appropriate.

In the next step, the communities would take the signatures of residents and submit a letter against hosting the F1 on Rattanakosin to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra.

Sports Authority of Thailand Governor Kanokphand Chulakasem insisted he would pursue the F1 race proposal with contingency routes at the Government Complex in Chaeng Wattana and at Muang Thong Thani. The SAT chief also said public hearings on whether Thailand should host the F1 race could be conducted but the final decision would be left to the Cabinet.


-- The Nation 2013-06-03

[notmyself]

Master Plan

lol

[Robby nz]

Plan?

Whats a plan?

Like the plan for the flood control work, the high speed rail, selling the rice mountain, etc

[NongKhaiKid]

Plan?

Whats a plan?

Like the plan for the flood control work, the high speed rail, selling the rice mountain, etc

One of my dictionaries defines a plan as " a method THOUGHT OUT for doing or achieving something ". Thought Out, come on this is Thailand it's clearly not applicable.

[Crazy chef 1]

Me thinks there should be at first a debate in the parliament what kind if lunch boxes will be served during the race...

[PoodMaiDai]

Any Thai drivers in the race? If not, I can see how it could be met with resistance. Can't have something like this destroy their culture.

[Bellweather]

Every Thai dri

Any Thai drivers in the race? If not, I can see how it could be met with resistance. Can't have something like this destroy their culture.

Every Thai is an F1 driver at heart and they don't need a multi-million dollar, state of the art machine to do it, any old diesel pickup clunker spewing a fog of black smoke is as good as anything.

[Fozfromoz]

Why do they demand to see the plan?

They have already decided to oppose it anyway.

[junglechef]

Me thinks there should be at first a debate in the parliament what kind if lunch boxes will be served during the race...

Well maybe second after what kind of lunch boxes will be served at the debate in parliament

p.s. similar TV handles think alike

[smurph]

This is going to be another epic saga by the looks of it. The story so far: http://asiancorrespondent.com/108528/f1-bangkok-grand-prix-plans-face-growing-local-opposition/

[rametindallas]

This would, undoubtedly, be the most scenic route of all
F1 courses and would showcase Bangkok's most attractive assets to a World-wide
television audience. Formula One has a total global television audience of 527
million people. Most Americans don't know Thailand from Taiwan. This race has
the potential to be one of the biggest advertisements for Thailand ever.

At the end of the day, there would be some newly paved
streets and many, many people around the World with a new-found desire to see
the mystical city that Bangkok is. These cars, rumbling around the course for a
couple of hours, do not equal just one full day of normal traffic as far as
vibrations are concerned. F1 cars are
relatively lightweight and will not damage the road surfaces so only a few
sections of street need to be resurfaced. The noise factor is measured in
seconds in any one place as the cars are moving quite fast.

The race course, as advertised, is in one the least
commercial parts of the city and would impose on the fewest people than any
other 'scenic' area of the city. No one is interested in seeing an F1 race in a
non-descript part of Thailand.

It the race is held during Songkran, the weather will be
clear and many Thais will be out of town. This is also low season so this will
help the tourism business during a normally slow time of the year. All he high
end hotels would be full for the event. Local traffic would only be stopped for
less than three days and then, only in limited areas at any one time.

Barriers are set along the entire length of the
racecourse for driver safety and spectators are limited to select viewing areas, No soi dogs will
be able to get on the track nor vendors or any thing else unauthorized. F1 has
been running races safely since 1906 and If an F1 race takes place in Bangkok,
rest assured, it will not be run by Thai people.

p.s. Sebastion Vettel ran his Red Bull F1 car up and down
Ratchadamnoern Klang and around Democracy Monument a couple of years ago and it
drew lots of excitement. http://wn.com/formula_1_f1_@_ถนนราชดำเนิน_drift

Edited June 3, 2013 by rametindallas

[HaraldVesterheim]

Master Plan

lol

http://www.quikmaps.com/full/238730

The map for the race

Edited June 3, 2013 by HaraldVesterheim

[ratcatcher]

And here was me thinking it was Mark Webber smokin' around Democracy Monument. He later had the honor to meet and talk with H.M. the King.

Not sure Sebastian was there though. Maybe a look-alike?

[DocN]

This would, undoubtedly, be the most scenic route of all

F1 courses and would showcase Bangkok's most attractive assets to a World-wide

television audience. Formula One has a total global television audience of 527

million people. Most Americans don't know Thailand from Taiwan. This race has

the potential to be one of the biggest advertisements for Thailand ever.

At the end of the day, there would be some newly paved

streets and many, many people around the World with a new-found desire to see

the mystical city that Bangkok is. These cars, rumbling around the course for a

couple of hours, do not equal just one full day of normal traffic as far as

vibrations are concerned. F1 cars are

relatively lightweight and will not damage the road surfaces so only a few

sections of street need to be resurfaced. The noise factor is measured in

seconds in any one place as the cars are moving quite fast.

The race course, as advertised, is in one the least

commercial parts of the city and would impose on the fewest people than any

other 'scenic' area of the city. No one is interested in seeing an F1 race in a

non-descript part of Thailand.

It the race is held during Songkran, the weather will be

clear and many Thais will be out of town. This is also low season so this will

help the tourism business during a normally slow time of the year. All he high

end hotels would be full for the event. Local traffic would only be stopped for

less than three days and then, only in limited areas at any one time.

Barriers are set along the entire length of the

racecourse and spectators are limited to select viewing areas, No soi dogs will

be able to get on the track nor vendors or any thing else unauthorized. F1 has

been running races safely since 1906 and If an F1 race takes place in Bangkok,

rest assured, it will not be run by Thai people.

p.s. Sebastion Vettel ran his Red Bull F1 car up and down

Ratchadamnoern Klang and around Democracy Monument a couple of years ago and it

drew lots of excitement. http://wn.com/formula_1_f1_@_ถนนราชดำเนิน_drift

Your post is so weired, that I don't even know, where to start.

Okay..."see the mystical city of Bangkok"???

If you see the F1-circus in Monaco...do you get the urge to go there? And Monte Carlo is for sure not too bad to look at!

The noise will be limited to a few seconds? First of all: an F1- car makes the noise like a starting jet- engine...and there are 20 of them...and they don't rush by in one big pulk. Towards the end of the race, 16 cars may be divided by 1 or 2 minutes...

So here is one! Here comes another...and another...here comes No. 3....

It is a constant noise, also because in some areas, the on- coming off- going straights are pretty close to each other.

Third: you don't need to resurface the roads AFTER a race (well...maybe you need to...) but BEFORE it.

Ever took a taxi by night in Bangkok? When the roads are empty and every cabbie turns into Mario Andretti?

It is a bumpy ride!

You need to even that out, before any F1- car EVER goes hi-speed on that!

ALL of the 6 kilometers!

It will be a boost for tourism?

Did you ever look at the numbers a race is drawing nowadays?

It maybe 30 - 50 k for training or qualifying and maybe 100k for the race. Many of them on combined tickets.

And no "average" Thai can afford any of the tickets.

But you said, we should have it on Songkhran, when most Thais are out of town anyways.

It's always good to have something done IN Thailand, that doesn't include the Thais, huh?!

The area will only be closed for three days?

Dream on!

At least there will be training on Friday, qualifying on Saturday and race on Sunday.

BUT...the course, the pitlanes, everything else has to be set up and I am quiet sure, this will be (also considering the area) a hi- security event, so I guess, it will more or less a whole week, no one gets to see the Grand Palace.

And last but not least: it was Webber and the event was an hour long and FREE! And he cruised down the course with 80km/h.

We are talking a week long event, high ticket- prices and a bunch of rocket- like cars at easily 200km/h+.

So next time, before you think, people will come to see "mystical Bangkok" (what era are you from? 1613?) because of some millionaires making noise...think again!

[Mampara]

So what's the problem? Too much pollution? Too much noise? perhaps The F1 will keep the much needed revenue away! or maybe the village head has not received any tea money. 'Really Guys' this just goes to show the logical thinking of the locals in that area. 'small things amuses small minds' like a baby games most people play on their I-pads and phones on the BTS.

[rametindallas]

This would, undoubtedly, be the most scenic route of all

F1 courses and would showcase Bangkok's most attractive assets to a World-wide

television audience. Formula One has a total global television audience of 527

million people. Most Americans don't know Thailand from Taiwan. This race has

the potential to be one of the biggest advertisements for Thailand ever.

At the end of the day, there would be some newly paved

streets and many, many people around the World with a new-found desire to see

the mystical city that Bangkok is. These cars, rumbling around the course for a

couple of hours, do not equal just one full day of normal traffic as far as

vibrations are concerned. F1 cars are

relatively lightweight and will not damage the road surfaces so only a few

sections of street need to be resurfaced. The noise factor is measured in

seconds in any one place as the cars are moving quite fast.

The race course, as advertised, is in one the least

commercial parts of the city and would impose on the fewest people than any

other 'scenic' area of the city. No one is interested in seeing an F1 race in a

non-descript part of Thailand.

It the race is held during Songkran, the weather will be

clear and many Thais will be out of town. This is also low season so this will

help the tourism business during a normally slow time of the year. All he high

end hotels would be full for the event. Local traffic would only be stopped for

less than three days and then, only in limited areas at any one time.

Barriers are set along the entire length of the

racecourse and spectators are limited to select viewing areas, No soi dogs will

be able to get on the track nor vendors or any thing else unauthorized. F1 has

been running races safely since 1906 and If an F1 race takes place in Bangkok,

rest assured, it will not be run by Thai people.

p.s. Sebastion Vettel ran his Red Bull F1 car up and down

Ratchadamnoern Klang and around Democracy Monument a couple of years ago and it

drew lots of excitement. http://wn.com/formula_1_f1_@_ถนนราชดำเนิน_drift

Your post is so weired, that I don't even know, where to start.

Okay..."see the mystical city of Bangkok"???

If you see the F1-circus in Monaco...do you get the urge to go there? And Monte Carlo is for sure not too bad to look at!

The noise will be limited to a few seconds? First of all: an F1- car makes the noise like a starting jet- engine...and there are 20 of them...and they don't rush by in one big pulk. Towards the end of the race, 16 cars may be divided by 1 or 2 minutes...

So here is one! Here comes another...and another...here comes No. 3....

It is a constant noise, also because in some areas, the on- coming off- going straights are pretty close to each other.

Third: you don't need to resurface the roads AFTER a race (well...maybe you need to...) but BEFORE it.

Ever took a taxi by night in Bangkok? When the roads are empty and every cabbie turns into Mario Andretti?

It is a bumpy ride!

You need to even that out, before any F1- car EVER goes hi-speed on that!

ALL of the 6 kilometers!

It will be a boost for tourism?

Did you ever look at the numbers a race is drawing nowadays?

It maybe 30 - 50 k for training or qualifying and maybe 100k for the race. Many of them on combined tickets.

And no "average" Thai can afford any of the tickets.

But you said, we should have it on Songkhran, when most Thais are out of town anyways.

It's always good to have something done IN Thailand, that doesn't include the Thais, huh?!

The area will only be closed for three days?

Dream on!

At least there will be training on Friday, qualifying on Saturday and race on Sunday.

BUT...the course, the pitlanes, everything else has to be set up and I am quiet sure, this will be (also considering the area) a hi- security event, so I guess, it will more or less a whole week, no one gets to see the Grand Palace.

And last but not least: it was Webber and the event was an hour long and FREE! And he cruised down the course with 80km/h.

We are talking a week long event, high ticket- prices and a bunch of rocket- like cars at easily 200km/h+.

So next time, before you think, people will come to see "mystical Bangkok" (what era are you from? 1613?) because of some millionaires making noise...think again!

No need to be pissey.

Monte Carlo, or any other city of the F1 circuit, has anything approaching the Grand Palace and Wat Pra Kaeow, the Temple of Dawn, the grand boulevard that is Ratchadamnoern, nor even the Democracy Monument. Yes, I would like to visit Monaco but it is not nearly affordable as Bangkok.

The course is 6km. long and maybe 24 cars stretched out along it so, no, the noise will not be continuous in any one place. None of the street courses are very smooth so only a few section will need resurfacing and those benefits will serve the Thais who use those streets for years.

As for boosting tourism, if 527 million people watch the race and see sights like no other in the World, I believe some of them would want to visit the Kingdom. They don't have to all come on race day to benefit the tourism industry. Having the event during Songkran does not exclude Thais but does not inconvenience Thais who are not interested.

Aren't you being a little bit nit pickey whether it was Vettel or Webber? The crowd seemed to love it.

As for millionaires making noise, there are a lot of football fans who pay money to watch millionaires play with balls. If you don't like the 'mystical bangkok', how about 'Amazing Bangkok'? The architecture along the race course is unlike any place in the World and will bring great, and positive publicity to Thailand. Stop being a curmudgeon.

Edited June 3, 2013 by rametindallas

[ratcatcher]

This would, undoubtedly, be the most scenic route of all

F1 courses and would showcase Bangkok's most attractive assets to a World-wide

television audience. Formula One has a total global television audience of 527

million people. Most Americans don't know Thailand from Taiwan. This race has

the potential to be one of the biggest advertisements for Thailand ever.

At the end of the day, there would be some newly paved

streets and many, many people around the World with a new-found desire to see

the mystical city that Bangkok is. These cars, rumbling around the course for a

couple of hours, do not equal just one full day of normal traffic as far as

vibrations are concerned. F1 cars are

relatively lightweight and will not damage the road surfaces so only a few

sections of street need to be resurfaced. The noise factor is measured in

seconds in any one place as the cars are moving quite fast.

The race course, as advertised, is in one the least

commercial parts of the city and would impose on the fewest people than any

other 'scenic' area of the city. No one is interested in seeing an F1 race in a

non-descript part of Thailand.

It the race is held during Songkran, the weather will be

clear and many Thais will be out of town. This is also low season so this will

help the tourism business during a normally slow time of the year. All he high

end hotels would be full for the event. Local traffic would only be stopped for

less than three days and then, only in limited areas at any one time.

Barriers are set along the entire length of the

racecourse and spectators are limited to select viewing areas, No soi dogs will

be able to get on the track nor vendors or any thing else unauthorized. F1 has

been running races safely since 1906 and If an F1 race takes place in Bangkok,

rest assured, it will not be run by Thai people.

p.s. Sebastion Vettel ran his Red Bull F1 car up and down

Ratchadamnoern Klang and around Democracy Monument a couple of years ago and it

drew lots of excitement. http://wn.com/formula_1_f1_@_ถนนราชดำเนิน_drift

Your post is so weired, that I don't even know, where to start.

Okay..."see the mystical city of Bangkok"???

If you see the F1-circus in Monaco...do you get the urge to go there? And Monte Carlo is for sure not too bad to look at!

The noise will be limited to a few seconds? First of all: an F1- car makes the noise like a starting jet- engine...and there are 20 of them...and they don't rush by in one big pulk. Towards the end of the race, 16 cars may be divided by 1 or 2 minutes...

So here is one! Here comes another...and another...here comes No. 3....

It is a constant noise, also because in some areas, the on- coming off- going straights are pretty close to each other.

Third: you don't need to resurface the roads AFTER a race (well...maybe you need to...) but BEFORE it.

Ever took a taxi by night in Bangkok? When the roads are empty and every cabbie turns into Mario Andretti?

It is a bumpy ride!

You need to even that out, before any F1- car EVER goes hi-speed on that!

ALL of the 6 kilometers!

It will be a boost for tourism?

Did you ever look at the numbers a race is drawing nowadays?

It maybe 30 - 50 k for training or qualifying and maybe 100k for the race. Many of them on combined tickets.

And no "average" Thai can afford any of the tickets.

But you said, we should have it on Songkhran, when most Thais are out of town anyways.

It's always good to have something done IN Thailand, that doesn't include the Thais, huh?!

The area will only be closed for three days?

Dream on!

At least there will be training on Friday, qualifying on Saturday and race on Sunday.

BUT...the course, the pitlanes, everything else has to be set up and I am quiet sure, this will be (also considering the area) a hi- security event, so I guess, it will more or less a whole week, no one gets to see the Grand Palace.

And last but not least: it was Webber and the event was an hour long and FREE! And he cruised down the course with 80km/h.

We are talking a week long event, high ticket- prices and a bunch of rocket- like cars at easily 200km/h+.

So next time, before you think, people will come to see "mystical Bangkok" (what era are you from? 1613?) because of some millionaires making noise...think again!

No need to be pissey.

Monte Carlo, or any other city of the F1 circuit, has anything approaching the Grand Palace and Wat Pra Kaeow, the Temple of Dawn, The grand boulevard that is Ratchadamnoern, nor even the Democracy Monument. Yes, I would like to visit Monaco but it is not nearly affordable a Bangkok.

The course is 6km. long and maybe 24 cars stretched out along it so, no, the noise will not be continuous in any one place.

As for boosting tourism, if 527 million people watch the race and see sights like no other in the World, I believe some of them would want to visit the Kingdom. They don't have to all come on race day to benefit the tourism industry. Having the event during Songkran does not exclude Thais but does not inconvenience Thais who are not interested.

Aren't you being a little bit nit pickey whether it was Vettel or Webber? The crowd seemed to love it.

As for millionaires making noise, there are a lot of football fans who pay money to watch millionaires play with balls. If you don't like the 'mystical bangkok', how about 'Amazing Bangkok'? The architecture along the race course is unlike any place in the World and will bring great, and positive publicity to Thailand. Stop being a curmudgeon.

I want to be just a teeny bit nit picky. The Temple of Dawn aka Wat Arun is on the Thonburi side of the river and thus unaffected in the plans.

The question is this. Will this become a fixture every year on the F1 circuit or is it just a one off to showcase Bangkok's jewels?

You are correct that its advertising value would be enormous, but I think many are objecting for the reasons that are stated. Too close to Wat Po and Wat Pra Keow.

Still, time will tell whether local opinion or big money win this small battle.

Edited June 3, 2013 by ratcatcher

[Naroge]

Most Americans don't know Thailand from Taiwan.

And most Americans don't watch Formula One.

[Naroge]

Even though I personally would like to watch a F1 race in Bangkok I have to say that Thailand cannot handle such an event to the benefit of the country. It will be an One Off event where where certain people will just look after their own interests. Thailand is not Singapore (which is good in most other aspects)

[DocN]

This would, undoubtedly, be the most scenic route of all

F1 courses and would showcase Bangkok's most attractive assets to a World-wide

television audience. Formula One has a total global television audience of 527

million people. Most Americans don't know Thailand from Taiwan. This race has

the potential to be one of the biggest advertisements for Thailand ever.

At the end of the day, there would be some newly paved

streets and many, many people around the World with a new-found desire to see

the mystical city that Bangkok is. These cars, rumbling around the course for a

couple of hours, do not equal just one full day of normal traffic as far as

vibrations are concerned. F1 cars are

relatively lightweight and will not damage the road surfaces so only a few

sections of street need to be resurfaced. The noise factor is measured in

seconds in any one place as the cars are moving quite fast.

The race course, as advertised, is in one the least

commercial parts of the city and would impose on the fewest people than any

other 'scenic' area of the city. No one is interested in seeing an F1 race in a

non-descript part of Thailand.

It the race is held during Songkran, the weather will be

clear and many Thais will be out of town. This is also low season so this will

help the tourism business during a normally slow time of the year. All he high

end hotels would be full for the event. Local traffic would only be stopped for

less than three days and then, only in limited areas at any one time.

Barriers are set along the entire length of the

racecourse and spectators are limited to select viewing areas, No soi dogs will

be able to get on the track nor vendors or any thing else unauthorized. F1 has

been running races safely since 1906 and If an F1 race takes place in Bangkok,

rest assured, it will not be run by Thai people.

p.s. Sebastion Vettel ran his Red Bull F1 car up and down

Ratchadamnoern Klang and around Democracy Monument a couple of years ago and it

drew lots of excitement. http://wn.com/formula_1_f1_@_ถนนราชดำเนิน_drift

Your post is so weired, that I don't even know, where to start.

Okay..."see the mystical city of Bangkok"???

If you see the F1-circus in Monaco...do you get the urge to go there? And Monte Carlo is for sure not too bad to look at!

The noise will be limited to a few seconds? First of all: an F1- car makes the noise like a starting jet- engine...and there are 20 of them...and they don't rush by in one big pulk. Towards the end of the race, 16 cars may be divided by 1 or 2 minutes...

So here is one! Here comes another...and another...here comes No. 3....

It is a constant noise, also because in some areas, the on- coming off- going straights are pretty close to each other.

Third: you don't need to resurface the roads AFTER a race (well...maybe you need to...) but BEFORE it.

Ever took a taxi by night in Bangkok? When the roads are empty and every cabbie turns into Mario Andretti?

It is a bumpy ride!

You need to even that out, before any F1- car EVER goes hi-speed on that!

ALL of the 6 kilometers!

It will be a boost for tourism?

Did you ever look at the numbers a race is drawing nowadays?

It maybe 30 - 50 k for training or qualifying and maybe 100k for the race. Many of them on combined tickets.

And no "average" Thai can afford any of the tickets.

But you said, we should have it on Songkhran, when most Thais are out of town anyways.

It's always good to have something done IN Thailand, that doesn't include the Thais, huh?!

The area will only be closed for three days?

Dream on!

At least there will be training on Friday, qualifying on Saturday and race on Sunday.

BUT...the course, the pitlanes, everything else has to be set up and I am quiet sure, this will be (also considering the area) a hi- security event, so I guess, it will more or less a whole week, no one gets to see the Grand Palace.

And last but not least: it was Webber and the event was an hour long and FREE! And he cruised down the course with 80km/h.

We are talking a week long event, high ticket- prices and a bunch of rocket- like cars at easily 200km/h+.

So next time, before you think, people will come to see "mystical Bangkok" (what era are you from? 1613?) because of some millionaires making noise...think again!

No need to be pissey.

Monte Carlo, or any other city of the F1 circuit, has anything approaching the Grand Palace and Wat Pra Kaeow, the Temple of Dawn, the grand boulevard that is Ratchadamnoern, nor even the Democracy Monument. Yes, I would like to visit Monaco but it is not nearly affordable as Bangkok.

The course is 6km. long and maybe 24 cars stretched out along it so, no, the noise will not be continuous in any one place. None of the street courses are very smooth so only a few section will need resurfacing and those benefits will serve the Thais who use those streets for years.

As for boosting tourism, if 527 million people watch the race and see sights like no other in the World, I believe some of them would want to visit the Kingdom. They don't have to all come on race day to benefit the tourism industry. Having the event during Songkran does not exclude Thais but does not inconvenience Thais who are not interested.

Aren't you being a little bit nit pickey whether it was Vettel or Webber? The crowd seemed to love it.

As for millionaires making noise, there are a lot of football fans who pay money to watch millionaires play with balls. If you don't like the 'mystical bangkok', how about 'Amazing Bangkok'? The architecture along the race course is unlike any place in the World and will bring great, and positive publicity to Thailand. Stop being a curmudgeon.

Oooooooh, you are one of those guys.

The sights of Bangkok are soooo unique, unlike anything you have ever seen in the world!

Come down!

They are sure nice, but I could name a vast number of things in the world (natural and man- made) that none of the sights in Bangkok comes even close to and there is not even a F1- course nearby.

You are of course right: the noise will not be continuous in one place...it will continuous all over the place!

Have you ever been to an F1- race? I have!

A car that is rushing right by you is literally earshattering...but even 100 meters away, it is still damn loud.

To get around any kind of F1- course, a car needs between 1.20 minutes to 1.40 minutes (roughly)....so 16 cars, separated by 1 to 2 minutes makes pretty much a constant noise all around, no?!

Again: Webber...for free...1 hour...80km/h...mostly Thais...

Opposite to that: 1 week...200lm/h+...no average Thai on the stands...

Amazing Bangkok? Yeah! Okay, whatever! Architecture like nothing else! Aha!

Arai godai!

[Maseratimartin]

This would, undoubtedly, be the most scenic route of all

F1 courses and would showcase Bangkok's most attractive assets to a World-wide

television audience. Formula One has a total global television audience of 527

million people. Most Americans don't know Thailand from Taiwan. This race has

the potential to be one of the biggest advertisements for Thailand ever.

At the end of the day, there would be some newly paved

streets and many, many people around the World with a new-found desire to see

the mystical city that Bangkok is. These cars, rumbling around the course for a

couple of hours, do not equal just one full day of normal traffic as far as

vibrations are concerned. F1 cars are

relatively lightweight and will not damage the road surfaces so only a few

sections of street need to be resurfaced. The noise factor is measured in

seconds in any one place as the cars are moving quite fast.

The race course, as advertised, is in one the least

commercial parts of the city and would impose on the fewest people than any

other 'scenic' area of the city. No one is interested in seeing an F1 race in a

non-descript part of Thailand.

It the race is held during Songkran, the weather will be

clear and many Thais will be out of town. This is also low season so this will

help the tourism business during a normally slow time of the year. All he high

end hotels would be full for the event. Local traffic would only be stopped for

less than three days and then, only in limited areas at any one time.

Barriers are set along the entire length of the

racecourse for driver safety and spectators are limited to select viewing areas, No soi dogs will

be able to get on the track nor vendors or any thing else unauthorized. F1 has

been running races safely since 1906 and If an F1 race takes place in Bangkok,

rest assured, it will not be run by Thai people.

p.s. Sebastion Vettel ran his Red Bull F1 car up and down

Ratchadamnoern Klang and around Democracy Monument a couple of years ago and it

drew lots of excitement. http://wn.com/formula_1_f1_@_ถนนราชดำเนิน_drift

Now I know who came up with such stupid idea...

During Sonkran...Hotels and Bangkok full...are you dreaming! You need people to work and the workers will be drunk at home in the country side. No No ...because F1 they will stay...?!

Yes the freelancers would maybe be happy and we would have the new fastest brothel in the world what was Hungary before. This crown Bangkok would earn

...but we do not need to discuss as there are so many new possible races proposed where Bangkok is sure at the bottom of the list! Other cities are booming and well organized where Bangkok is only sinking

[oldsailor35]

Looking at the pic, not really a big crowd of protesters! These protests happen everywhere "not in my back yard" We had them in Australia at the Gold Coast (Surfers Paradise) for the Indy which was a hugh success showing the world through television scenery that the tourist board could never have afforded. Same again at Albert Park, another hugh tourism advertising success. Eventually everybody will benefit in some way or another. The only question in my mind is 'Can the Thais organise something like this' without corruption. I really don't think so, its so ingrained in their culture.

[oldsailor35]

This would, undoubtedly, be the most scenic route of all

F1 courses and would showcase Bangkok's most attractive assets to a World-wide

television audience. Formula One has a total global television audience of 527

million people. Most Americans don't know Thailand from Taiwan. This race has

the potential to be one of the biggest advertisements for Thailand ever.

At the end of the day, there would be some newly paved

streets and many, many people around the World with a new-found desire to see

the mystical city that Bangkok is. These cars, rumbling around the course for a

couple of hours, do not equal just one full day of normal traffic as far as

vibrations are concerned. F1 cars are

relatively lightweight and will not damage the road surfaces so only a few

sections of street need to be resurfaced. The noise factor is measured in

seconds in any one place as the cars are moving quite fast.

The race course, as advertised, is in one the least

commercial parts of the city and would impose on the fewest people than any

other 'scenic' area of the city. No one is interested in seeing an F1 race in a

non-descript part of Thailand.

It the race is held during Songkran, the weather will be

clear and many Thais will be out of town. This is also low season so this will

help the tourism business during a normally slow time of the year. All he high

end hotels would be full for the event. Local traffic would only be stopped for

less than three days and then, only in limited areas at any one time.

Barriers are set along the entire length of the

racecourse for driver safety and spectators are limited to select viewing areas, No soi dogs will

be able to get on the track nor vendors or any thing else unauthorized. F1 has

been running races safely since 1906 and If an F1 race takes place in Bangkok,

rest assured, it will not be run by Thai people.

p.s. Sebastion Vettel ran his Red Bull F1 car up and down

Ratchadamnoern Klang and around Democracy Monument a couple of years ago and it

drew lots of excitement. http://wn.com/formula_1_f1_@_ถนนราชดำเนิน_drift

It was Mark Webber, not Herr Finger.

[rametindallas]

This would, undoubtedly, be the most scenic route of all

F1 courses and would showcase Bangkok's most attractive assets to a World-wide

television audience. Formula One has a total global television audience of 527

million people. Most Americans don't know Thailand from Taiwan. This race has

the potential to be one of the biggest advertisements for Thailand ever.

At the end of the day, there would be some newly paved

streets and many, many people around the World with a new-found desire to see

the mystical city that Bangkok is. These cars, rumbling around the course for a

couple of hours, do not equal just one full day of normal traffic as far as

vibrations are concerned. F1 cars are

relatively lightweight and will not damage the road surfaces so only a few

sections of street need to be resurfaced. The noise factor is measured in

seconds in any one place as the cars are moving quite fast.

The race course, as advertised, is in one the least

commercial parts of the city and would impose on the fewest people than any

other 'scenic' area of the city. No one is interested in seeing an F1 race in a

non-descript part of Thailand.

It the race is held during Songkran, the weather will be

clear and many Thais will be out of town. This is also low season so this will

help the tourism business during a normally slow time of the year. All he high

end hotels would be full for the event. Local traffic would only be stopped for

less than three days and then, only in limited areas at any one time.

Barriers are set along the entire length of the

racecourse and spectators are limited to select viewing areas, No soi dogs will

be able to get on the track nor vendors or any thing else unauthorized. F1 has

been running races safely since 1906 and If an F1 race takes place in Bangkok,

rest assured, it will not be run by Thai people.

p.s. Sebastion Vettel ran his Red Bull F1 car up and down

Ratchadamnoern Klang and around Democracy Monument a couple of years ago and it

drew lots of excitement. http://wn.com/formula_1_f1_@_ถนนราชดำเนิน_drift

Your post is so weired, that I don't even know, where to start.

Okay..."see the mystical city of Bangkok"???

If you see the F1-circus in Monaco...do you get the urge to go there? And Monte Carlo is for sure not too bad to look at!

The noise will be limited to a few seconds? First of all: an F1- car makes the noise like a starting jet- engine...and there are 20 of them...and they don't rush by in one big pulk. Towards the end of the race, 16 cars may be divided by 1 or 2 minutes...

So here is one! Here comes another...and another...here comes No. 3....

It is a constant noise, also because in some areas, the on- coming off- going straights are pretty close to each other.

Third: you don't need to resurface the roads AFTER a race (well...maybe you need to...) but BEFORE it.

Ever took a taxi by night in Bangkok? When the roads are empty and every cabbie turns into Mario Andretti?

It is a bumpy ride!

You need to even that out, before any F1- car EVER goes hi-speed on that!

ALL of the 6 kilometers!

It will be a boost for tourism?

Did you ever look at the numbers a race is drawing nowadays?

It maybe 30 - 50 k for training or qualifying and maybe 100k for the race. Many of them on combined tickets.

And no "average" Thai can afford any of the tickets.

But you said, we should have it on Songkhran, when most Thais are out of town anyways.

It's always good to have something done IN Thailand, that doesn't include the Thais, huh?!

The area will only be closed for three days?

Dream on!

At least there will be training on Friday, qualifying on Saturday and race on Sunday.

BUT...the course, the pitlanes, everything else has to be set up and I am quiet sure, this will be (also considering the area) a hi- security event, so I guess, it will more or less a whole week, no one gets to see the Grand Palace.

And last but not least: it was Webber and the event was an hour long and FREE! And he cruised down the course with 80km/h.

We are talking a week long event, high ticket- prices and a bunch of rocket- like cars at easily 200km/h+.

So next time, before you think, people will come to see "mystical Bangkok" (what era are you from? 1613?) because of some millionaires making noise...think again!

No need to be pissey.

Monte Carlo, or any other city of the F1 circuit, has anything approaching the Grand Palace and Wat Pra Kaeow, the Temple of Dawn, The grand boulevard that is Ratchadamnoern, nor even the Democracy Monument. Yes, I would like to visit Monaco but it is not nearly affordable a Bangkok.

The course is 6km. long and maybe 24 cars stretched out along it so, no, the noise will not be continuous in any one place.

As for boosting tourism, if 527 million people watch the race and see sights like no other in the World, I believe some of them would want to visit the Kingdom. They don't have to all come on race day to benefit the tourism industry. Having the event during Songkran does not exclude Thais but does not inconvenience Thais who are not interested.

Aren't you being a little bit nit pickey whether it was Vettel or Webber? The crowd seemed to love it.

As for millionaires making noise, there are a lot of football fans who pay money to watch millionaires play with balls. If you don't like the 'mystical bangkok', how about 'Amazing Bangkok'? The architecture along the race course is unlike any place in the World and will bring great, and positive publicity to Thailand. Stop being a curmudgeon.

I want to be just a teeny bit nit picky. The Temple of Dawn aka Wat Arun is on the Thonburi side of the river and thus unaffected in the plans.

The question is this. Will this become a fixture every year on the F1 circuit or is it just a one off to showcase Bangkok's jewels?

You are correct that its advertising value would be enormous, but I think many are objecting for the reasons that are stated. Too close to Wat Po and Wat Pra Keow.

Still, time will tell whether local opinion or big money win this small battle.

Regarding Wat Arun not being on the circuit, it's all about the overhead helicopter/blimp videos. I imagine a lot of the busy Chao Phraya River with its long-tailed boats, ferries, etc. will be in those shots. This part of town has all the classic, old Chinese shop houses. Rattanakosin Island is a great area for unique photography. Whether this is a one-off or yearly or even happens depends on if it is mutually beneficial. Personally. as much as I think it is a good idea if handled correctly, the odds are against F1 in Bangkok because there will be too many hands out. I was only commenting on the positive benefits and possibility of hosting F1.

This is much more 'doable' than an Olympics or World Cup and would cost Thailand relatively small money. 527 million viewers of the most spectacular video travel brochure should not be dismissed lightly.

Edited June 3, 2013 by rametindallas