plenty of rich thai girls in bkk that wants farangs, so why deal around with poor issan girls..

reverse scamming is the shit..

Not sure there's tons of actual rich Thai's queuing up to meet farangs but there's certainly plenty of girls who are not poor who are open to dating a farang.

The main reason most Thai girls (whether poor or not so poor) want to date a farang is because Thai guys aren't interested in them or at least Thai guys on a similar educational and economic level and they don't want to date down.

The majority of girls I've come across who are interested in myself and other farangs I know is because they struggle to get a Thai boyfriend of course they mostly don't admit this and say "thai men no good...they cheat, they lie, they steal, they drink, they gamble etc" (no different from most of us then?).

Reasons they can't get a local bf include....

1) The way they look - not necessarily ugly but maybe darker skin / short / pudgy / not the typical Thai perception of beauty - but often still appealing to farang.

2) They are overweight by Thai standards - again doesn't mean fat or obese we can be talking 50kgs here which most Thai's consider very fat yet they can look anything but if they are tall especially compared to Western women who would do anything to be so slim.

3) Single mums - Thai guys will not accept another guys kids.

Not all. I've met plenty who didn't fit into any of the above but seemed to have a thing for farang still, a lot of them had lived abroad for study and work and had maybe had a taste of a life style or man they liked and didn't want to go back to dating local guys for whatever reason.

Solid rebuttal, Spade. But I think falkan is referring to rich bargirls. You know, those with multiple sponsors and pulling in 200,000 bt/month.

... Well done ... another farang who mets & weds a wealthy HiSo Chinese/Thai... ... your post says it all !!

Where did the OP say his wife was a hiso thai/chinese? Your post say's it all.

I know a few Thai lady.s who live and work in country areas and own a lot more land than I ever did back in OZ

Strange how you can marry a girl without knowing the financial status of her parents.

When I was married in the USA, I didn't give a thought to the financial status of her parents.

Thailand ? really , doesn't every poor lady in the world want a richer husband , not just Thailand. Doesn't every man in the world just want someone to love them and look after them ? If you marry any poor girl in the world and it goes wrong then she is evil, but if she treats you good and stays with you and loves you , she is an angel . i have had both and with the angel now. My first was an Australian lady , who got most of everything with the help of the Australian laws .

You were lucky that you are on somewhat equal level.

Had she been truly uber-rich, you would have been destined to be the secret lover

she could never be seen with, -least of all her family.

Edited August 9, 201312 yr by poanoi

plenty of rich thai girls in bkk that wants farangs, so why deal around with poor issan girls..

reverse scamming is the shit..

Not many that want a poor farang though so please explain how this reverse scamming works because I don't really want to get stuck with a ten thou restaurant bill for food that's hardly been touched.

Some Thai girls actually meet foreigners and fall in love without taking their bank account into consideration.

Of course if the guy is past it and the only Thai he knows is how to say poom pui or poong, then the girl will obviously want some financial compensation.

HaHa and some financial compensation is in order imo. If a woman thinks her man is a good guy because he "takes care of her" and they are both happy about this aregement i dont see why this should be a problem to anyone.

... Well done ... another farang who mets & weds a wealthy HiSo Chinese/Thai... ... your post says it all !!

Also I met her in a bar, but she was different from all the rest.

As is mine. The only reason she even considered dating me in the first place is because I was in the S.A.S....

I dare say no matter what country, if the tables were turned it would be somewhat the same. It stands to reason relationships are based, in part, to improve ones position or so it's hoped. The financial security for many is and will remain a key consideration.

First thing here is that all Thai girls are exactly the same.

All clones.

All Thai women are that way, while all British women are this way....

I always thought there are some differences between different people even if they come from the same country.

So she didn't leave school at 13?

Another perception is she must cook good Thai food?

Is her name Yingluck?

... Well done ... another farang who mets & weds a wealthy HiSo Chinese/Thai... ... your post says it all !!

My Thai wife is a HiSo woman of Japanese origin and she spits of the HiSo Chinese girls. It`s embarrassing, but she will do it.

Also I met her in a bar, but she was different from all the rest.

Your comments would be mildly amusing if they didn't convey so eloquently your bitterness and envy.

I can only assume that you are deeply unhappy with your life.

Awhile back I knew this very rich ( I think worth 900 Million baht) Thai guy who had a few daughters. He took great care of them and they had the best of everything. The girls were all college educated and very down to earth and always spoke very nice and carried themselves well. I would say 7 out of 10 in the looks department. This Thai guy wanted his daughters to marry a young smart American farang. Not 100% sure why but I think it had something to do with them getting out of Thailand and leading a better life in America. A good friend of mine ( handsome young American) was this guy's hope for one of his daughters... he really tried hard to get my friend and his daughter together. Basically told him he would never have to worry again about anything as long as he stayed with his daughter and treated her good. She was all for it but my friend was more into running after young 9s and 10s.... I have lost contact with this guy but I have always wondered what happened to his daughters....maybe one is who the OP is talking about

There are Thais with money who just want a different life in a different country. Getting married to a foreigner is a ticket out

Why does the OP use the past tense?

Plenty of farangs back in farangland have this "skewed" vision, have had plenty of arguments with plenty of farang about this topic.

None with my mates though, so perhaps the OP needs to reflect on his choice of chums.

At the end of the day it's really a tiresome argument to have with some Johnny or Joanne Foreigner and usually when the topic does get raised in a situation, it's generally my mates who will defuse it before I even get the opportunity to verbal said ignorant.

The situation these days is getting easier with caucasian/asian relationships becoming more and more normal given migration patterns of the past - perhaps there was something good to come from the Vietnam conflict after all...

Yes if she was a bar-girl...or no, if she was a cashier, funny how many were cashiers.....or of course like Lez Dawson they were overwhelmed by your good looks and married for lust........

now on to next stupid question..................

Edited August 9, 201312 yr by wilcopops

If we are living here in Thailand we are all, to some degree, in the same boat so why is there a need to suggest that your girlfriend/wife is Hi-So, educated etc?

This is Thailand and education here . . . well, people are not trained to be independent thinkers are they, certainly in comparison to the west.

Regardless of education ar wealth, the fact remains that if they are Thai, whatever their perceived status, there are cultural differences and to some extent or another Thai people, in my opinion, are emotionally immature, even stunted in some cases. We often find ourselves educating them don't we?

Some of the guys that talk about farangs that are past it . . you need to cool your jets . . . .everyone gets older and the challenge is to do it with style, sound in the knowlege that your years of experience and a degree of wisdom will help us to be a better person.

Arguably, all women desire a wealthy man a little older than themselves just as we desire a woman a little younger who is gentle, caring, self-motivated and willing to be an equal partner in every sense of the word. These are just pipe dreams.

Everyone has a minimum standard don't they . . .I don't want to be with a lying crack whore and anyone like this is dismissed quickly just as a keenock farang who wants to stay out every day drinking and never give any attention to his girlfriend is likely to be dismissed at the same rate?

Beyond this . . . .anyone has a fair crack na?

It is all about 'fit' . . . can you live together without killing each other, do you have the same kinda goals; a house by the sea, a business together in Bangkok etc?

In my experience, and I have dated Hi-So girls and ladyboys as well as hookers from the bars, money often gets in the way as our cultrual mind-set concerning money is so very, very different from a Thai person's attitude.

If you can negotiate the money issues successfully then the chances are you can have a good relationship. It may still fail but it will be because of issues that are likely to affect any couple whatever their nationality.

If you have a Thai girlfriend who fails to grasp your logic then you will never make it work. For example, a Thai girl who demands that you support her parents despite the facts that; they are youngher than you or you cannot afford it is not going to make for a long term partner and sooner or later you are desined to be a fish sauce stain on the veranda of her parent's house. Quit now, while you are still ahead.

One the other hand I think a farang has to realise that 'taking care' of someone involves some financial input and 'jai dii' means 'generous' both financially and in terms of tolerating a Thai girls whims, half truths, laziness, silliness, inability to manage tasks ( all in small measures on hopes!)

I have witnessed these traits in EVERY single Thai I have dated from the rich to the very poorest. Of course this is only MY experience.

My current girlfriend is very Lo-So and I often wonder how someone from her origins has turned out to be such a gentle and kind person. However, she may be bright and witty but she is uneducated. She is lazy in the extreme but always full of happiness and joy when I come home from work. She is a pretty good cook but more than that we fit together well, she makes me laugh 50 times a day. The world is a better place when she is around and that is the point I think, not her income or education.

How many women in the west do you meet who have your level of education? Very few I can tell you and those that I have dated have been no more compatible in other areas so . . . why worry about that? How many metaphysical discussions do I need in one day?

I'll take a sexy little Thai girl with a killer ass and a happy smile on her face any day!

On one hand it's useful to balance your actions here in LOS against those you demonstrated in the west . . . .for example would you buy a motorbike or a house in the countryside for a hooker back in the west? If the answer is No, then why would you do it here?

Thai women can be demanding from what I hear but I also think that Thai girls can and should protect their foreign partners from their families if they are asking for money all the time. If she chooses her family before you . . . .time to change addresses again!

Edited August 9, 201312 yr by cheyenne

I seem to remember having to support my western wife& GFs .... i guess all your friends wives are well to do

Poor soul, you had to support western GFs, WHY. I never did

In the topic about living in the West with a Thai wife nearly ever single post talks about how all the Thai women living in the West (besides their wife) are a bunch of gambling, lying, cheating, gossiping villains?

I assume you are not American because the average American can't even find Thailand on a map! Taiwan? Is that in China? Is it close to Shanghai? Tom Cruise went there in Mission Impossible III.

Having been born and raised in the U.S., I'd say most Americans can't even find London or Tokyo on a map.

Furthermore, most don't care that they can't. If it's outside the U.S.A. it can't be very important...

OMG Not another one, rebuildng his life and living a dream he never actually lived out for real life. Just a little bit sick of how many ex special forces and ex cia men I have met here, who have come to reinvent themselves because they could not cope in their homelands and try to impress others, with their so called achievements in homeland. If life was so great back home, then why come here and pass on your Bullshit to others of what you would really like to like to have been like. The same goes for all those who were muliti-millionaires in their home country. If a Thai woman falls for all that, it just shows her lack of knowledge of the western world and what SAS , special forces and CIA really stands for. Their knowledge is limited to local events within thailand and their respective villages and truly have NO knowledge of the aforemntioned agencies. DOH!.

... Well done ... another farang who mets & weds a wealthy HiSo Chinese/Thai... ... your post says it all !!

Also I met her in a bar, but she was different from all the rest.

As is mine. The only reason she even considered dating me in the first place is because I was in the S.A.S....

When the great recession of 2001 (or thereabouts) hit Australia, a friend lost his job. Six months later he announced to his (Australian anglo) wife that the money had run out, and that they would have to make serious cut backs, maybe even sell the house. She left him that evening. She got the house a year later.

Simple - OP just needs a better, more discerning quality set of friends - problem solved.

I have had the following question asked to me many a time in the USA. "how can you be with a girl that only likes you for your money and you essentially have to pay for".

I then ask them if they have ever had an American wife or girl friend. They always say yes.I then look straight there eyes and ask in utter disbelief "and you don't think you were paying for it"??

I think I would be terrified to start a topic on this board...................................

Edited August 9, 201312 yr by metisdead
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In many cases your friends are right, in your case they re apparently wrong. Your problem is that you worry about what your friends think about your wife, which may be because you are a bit insecure or perhaps just still young - or both (just guessing). Even if your wife is/was a money hungry bar girl, so what? You decided to marry her anyway. If your friends ask improper and intrusive questions about your wife (no matter where she is from), simply ask them if they have a problem with your wife? Most will say "nono, sorry" and that will be the end of it, they will never ask again. The few that will keep asking, you simply dump.

Face reality.. In the vast majority of Thai farang pairings part of the appeal of the farang is the ugrade in status they bring to the relationship. Thats not purely money, but its in part money, ability to travel internationally, go on good vacations, security, etc etc etc.. I also hear Thai women think (possibly misguided) we cheat less and are better with parenting.

But the idea of hallmark card 'love' is less a factor and a bit more pragmatism about life opportunities is common and normal in poorer countries with out social safety nets. Money doesnt bring happyness but its a damn sight easier to cry in mercedes than a on a pushbike.

Some guys dont like hearing this.. their ego is battered if they cant process she didnt instantly fall for adonis like appeals.. Me I understand the people are a package, with looks and love at first sight being only one aspect of it.

Gawd you men are boring; Thai women are this, Thai women are that, Thai women are something else. It's the same old crap over and over, but repackaged to look like something new. Why should it matter what narrow minded bigots think? Just treat everyone decently and let the idiots think what they want. Too many people generalize too much.

In the topic about living in the West with a Thai wife nearly ever single post talks about how all the Thai women living in the West (besides their wife) are a bunch of gambling, lying, cheating, gossiping villains?

I assume you are not American because the average American can't even find Thailand on a map! Taiwan? Is that in China? Is it close to Shanghai? Tom Cruise went there in Mission Impossible III.

This shows that American are not very knowledgeable about the world

When the great recession of 2001 (or thereabouts) hit Australia, a friend lost his job. Six months later he announced to his (Australian anglo) wife that the money had run out, and that they would have to make serious cut backs, maybe even sell the house. She left him that evening. She got the house a year later.

but he got something much more valuable - freedom.

I solved the problem of what friends may think: I don't have any friends.