Noise from farangs living in the next condo unit at 3:00 AM each night

[paulsh]

From the title in the op, would it make you feel better if they were asian or black?

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Well in Thailand there two groups of people: Thai and Foreigners (farangs).

The approach is mostly different if you deal with Thais or with Foreigners, you should know that if you live here.

[Kilgore Trout]

From the title in the op, would it make you feel better if they were asian or black?

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Well in Thailand there two groups of people: Thai and Foreigners (farangs).

The approach is mostly different if you deal with Thais or with Foreigners, you should know that if you live here.

How long have you lived here?

Falang does not in any way shape or form mean foreigner

Methinks you need some edumacation......

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[tropo]

You can get used to any noise.

Maybe you can but I cant. Some noises I dont mind so much but if subjected to noises like "music", kids, dogs, motorbikes, jackhammers etc then I would either get the noise stopped fast or move equally fast.

For this reason (and several others) I am unlikely to ever buy any property in Thailand.

You could, but you can't because you're convinced of that.

[expatsupreme]

Consider yourself lucky if you only experience noise at 3 AM every night.

I have to live with barking soi dogs every night and construction work during the day so I cant remember the last time I had a nice , long sleep .

ohh you make me cry, buy some ear plugs you baby

[KittenKong]

In my view, a condo management company shouldn't have to take on the extra work of being like a rental agency of an apartment building. Obviously in an emergency situation policies should be stretched. A noise complaint is NO kind of emergency.

I could not disagree more. Complaints about bad behaviour should be investigated and dealt with instantly, 24/7. Anything less is both pointless and unacceptable.

Otherwise the guy who is bothered by noise at 3am will just be told to complain in the morning, and having done so will fobbed off the next day with "no noise now sir". That may satisfy you but it would not satisfy me.

[KittenKong]

You can get used to any noise.

Maybe you can but I cant. Some noises I dont mind so much but if subjected to noises like "music", kids, dogs, motorbikes, jackhammers etc then I would either get the noise stopped fast or move equally fast.

For this reason (and several others) I am unlikely to ever buy any property in Thailand.

You could, but you can't because you're convinced of that.

You are wrong. As I said, maybe you can get used to those sorts of noises but I cannot. I would just leave if I could do nothing about such noises.

[tropo]

From the title in the op, would it make you feel better if they were asian or black?

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Well in Thailand there two groups of people: Thai and Foreigners (farangs).

The approach is mostly different if you deal with Thais or with Foreigners, you should know that if you live here.

How long have you lived here?

Falang does not in any way shape or form mean foreigner

Methinks you need some edumacation......

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I've lived here for awhile. These discussions arguing about the meaning of "Farang" are ridiculous.

IMO the word "Farang" is meaningless and should be trashed as it causes too much confusion. Use "foreigner" for any non-Thai person born abroad. "Foreigner" works fine in most other countries, so it can work fine here too.

[paulsh]

From the title in the op, would it make you feel better if they were asian or black?

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Well in Thailand there two groups of people: Thai and Foreigners (farangs).

The approach is mostly different if you deal with Thais or with Foreigners, you should know that if you live here.

How long have you lived here?

Falang does not in any way shape or form mean foreigner

Methinks you need some edumacation......

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Why don't you improve a little my "edumacation" and teach me the difference between "foreigners" and "falangs" in Thailand?

[tropo]

You can get used to any noise.

Maybe you can but I cant. Some noises I dont mind so much but if subjected to noises like "music", kids, dogs, motorbikes, jackhammers etc then I would either get the noise stopped fast or move equally fast.

For this reason (and several others) I am unlikely to ever buy any property in Thailand.

You could, but you can't because you're convinced of that.

You are wrong. As I said, maybe you can get used to those sorts of noises but I cannot. I would just leave if I could do nothing about such noises.

I was right. You can't because you won't try. It's your attitude and your belief that it is impossible which makes it impossible. Pattaya is really not a good place to live for people like you. Yes, you can move away from the noise, but sooner or later it will come back to haunt you.

An isolated farm house with no roosters is your best bet.

[smotherb]

Put a note on their door.

better yet, just after 8am start playing loud music and screaming between songs.

[malcoml]

PM me and I will give you the name and telephone number of a reliable agent who will find you a perfect house

For the other TV members ........I don't need your sarcasm thanks

PMed you

My budget is 15k bath/month including water and electric bills (so it's more like a 13k if the electric is at 3,5 bath/unit?)

Thanks!

I just moved out of a village on Soi Khao Talo called Raviporn Village.

Most houses about 10k and my house had an aircon in both bedrooms and the main living area.

Houses are, fairly new and modern wit western kitchens. There is however no pool etc...

[mikemac]

My mate in Australia had the same issue with young guys next door. Used to park his lawnmower under the guy's bedroom window early in the morning, after they had kept him up all night partying, fill it up with petrol and start it up on full revs. Then he would go out. They got the message after a while.

Don't know if this would work for the op, being Pattaya they would probably kill him and keep partying.

[KittenKong]

You could, but you can't because you're convinced of that.

You are wrong. As I said, maybe you can get used to those sorts of noises but I cannot. I would just leave if I could do nothing about such noises.

I was right. You can't because you won't try. It's your attitude and your belief that it is impossible which makes it impossible. Pattaya is really not a good place to live for people like you. Yes, you can move away from the noise, but sooner or later it will come back to haunt you.

I am constantly amazed by the number of posters on here who appear to have taken cheap psychology courses and who, as a result, think they know me better than I know myself. Maybe they should all return their diplomas and learn to speak only for themselves, as I do.

You are wrong and that's all there is to it. The building I am in is well-managed and quiet enough for me, in spite of being in the centre of Jomtien. Ergo I have no desire to leave it. If it became too noisy I would just go to some other building and I have several suitable ones on my short-list. Being in Pattaya does not in itself make a building more or less noisy than being anywhere else in Asia.

[tropo]

I am constantly amazed by the number of posters on here who appear to have taken cheap psychology courses and who, as a result, think they know me better than I know myself. Maybe they should all return their diplomas and learn to speak only for themselves, as I do.

You are wrong and that's all there is to it. The building I am in is well-managed and quiet enough for me, in spite of being in the centre of Jomtien. Ergo I have no desire to leave it. If it became too noisy I would just go to some other building and I have several suitable ones on my short-list. Being in Pattaya does not in itself make a building more or less noisy than being anywhere else in Asia.

Understanding your problem does not require a degree in psychology. I agreed with you that you cannot cope with noise... I'm not arguing that point. Other people can adjust, you cannot. The more people focus on noise the more it will bother them. You have the capacity to ignore noise, but you choose not to. That's your choice, but don't come along and say it's impossible. Thai people can handle a lot more noise than most foreigners from quieter countries. It's not that they can't hear noise, they just don't react to it in the same way.

You'd be about as inflexible as my mother. She couldn't live here.

For me the going is easier. I choose to learn to live with noise because I don't want to keep moving. Right now I'm living right next to a condo construction site, so I practice what I preach..The less noise bothers you in Pattaya the easier it is to live here.

Edited August 31, 2013 by tropo

[Kilgore Trout]

 

 

From the title in the op, would it make you feel better if they were asian or black?

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Well in Thailand there two groups of people: Thai and Foreigners (farangs).

The approach is mostly different if you deal with Thais or with Foreigners, you should know that if you live here.

 

How long have you lived here?

Falang does not in any way shape or form mean foreigner

Methinks you need some edumacation......

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Why don't you improve a little my "edumacation" and teach me the difference between "foreigners" and "falangs" in Thailand?

A foreigner is a non-Thai national, a farang is a white person (caucasian)

Eg a laotian is a foreigner, not a farang while a white person with Thai citizenship is still a farabg. Got it?

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[KittenKong]

For me the going is easier. I choose to learn to live with noise because I don't want to keep moving. Right now I'm living right next to a condo construction site, so I practice what I preach..

You still dont get it.

You put up with noise because you can. If that works for you, great. In your shoes I would just move, even if only for the duration of the building work. As far as I'm concerned life is too short to suffer things I dont like when other options are available. YMMV

[tropo]

For me the going is easier. I choose to learn to live with noise because I don't want to keep moving. Right now I'm living right next to a condo construction site, so I practice what I preach..

You still dont get it.

You put up with noise because you can. If that works for you, great. In your shoes I would just move, even if only for the duration of the building work. As far as I'm concerned life is too short to suffer things I dont like when other options are available. YMMV

No, you still don't get it.

It's not a matter of putting up with noise. It's a matter of tuning out the noise. When you've succeeded in doing this, you're no longer aware of the noise and it will no longer bother you.

I'm not putting up with the noise because I'm actually not aware of it.

I don't want to run away during the condo construction next door because I like the place and the area and appreciate my rent reduction. Actually the noise is the least of my problems living next to a construction site, but lets not go into that.,

For example, when I go home to visit my wife's family I have to sleep with a dozen roosters crowing outside my bedroom window. I can sleep like a baby though that. Imagine the problems you'd have - you'd have to go out and shoot them or move to a hotel in the nearest town an hour away.

I live near the Pattaya lookout where they blow off lines of firecrackers for tourists from 8 am until 8pm 7 days a week. When I first moved here over 2 years ago they were incredibly loud and distracting. Now I'm not even aware of them. I asked my wife the other day - "do you hear those firecrackers?".

As a fellow human being, you are also capable of this, but because you don't believe, you can't.

Running away from noise in Pattaya could be an endless journey.

Edited September 1, 2013 by tropo

[tropo]

A foreigner is a non-Thai national, a farang is a white person (caucasian)

Eg a laotian is a foreigner, not a farang while a white person with Thai citizenship is still a farabg. Got it?

That could open a real can of worms. Better to just stick with "foreigner".

[paulsh]

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[paulsh]

From the title in the op, would it make you feel better if they were asian or black?

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Well in Thailand there two groups of people: Thai and Foreigners (farangs).

The approach is mostly different if you deal with Thais or with Foreigners, you should know that if you live here.

How long have you lived here?

Falang does not in any way shape or form mean foreigner

Methinks you need some edumacation......

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A foreigner is a non-Thai national, a farang is a white person (caucasian)

Eg a laotian is a foreigner, not a farang while a white person with Thai citizenship is still a farabg. Got it?

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According to Google Translate, "falang" means "westerner": https://translate.google.com/#th/en/ฝรั่ง

I've been living in the western world most of my life and a westerner could be black, white, yellow, grey, purple, red or whatever color you like.

It's so annoying people seeing racism everywhere. One step further and we won't be able to even mention it's a female or male (sexism) or, like in this case, if it's foreigners/westerners/farangs/WHATEVER just to make people like you happy? What's next? I'll have to say "living beings" to avoid saying "humans" as it would be too racist for the other living beings on this planet? <deleted>! poor animals!

Edited September 1, 2013 by paulsh

[pedro01]

A quick call to the police should do it. Tell them you can smell Ganga and think they are smoking ice there too.

[poanoi]

If anyone gives a shit, farang come from farangseh, France in other words.

If you thought that was bad, i went to sihanookville when it was just a few wannabe hippies,

i rented a room at the beach, went to bed at 9pm, all of the sudden reggie on max volume with screams that went with it, i went down and asked if they could turn the music down ?

Nope, it was party, it would go on until sun went up.

[tropo]

If anyone gives a shit, farang come from farangseh, France in other words. If you thought that was bad, i went to sihanookville when it was just a few wannabe hippies, i rented a room at the beach, went to bed at 9pm, all of the sudden reggie on max volume with screams that went with it, i went down and asked if they could turn the music down ? Nope, it was party, it would go on until sun went up.

Wouldn't they let you join the party?

[Gsxrnz]

My mate in Australia had the same issue with young guys next door. Used to park his lawnmower under the guy's bedroom window early in the morning, after they had kept him up all night partying, fill it up with petrol and start it up on full revs. Then he would go out. They got the message after a while.

Don't know if this would work for the op, being Pattaya they would probably kill him and keep partying.

Yeah they probably would, especially since it would be somewhat difficult to explain why you're revving up the lawnmower on the 16th (or whatever) floor of a condo.

[paulsh]

If anyone gives a shit, farang come from farangseh, France in other words.

+1

[tootall]

Have any of you guys actually thought of possibly talking to the neighbors? Human to human interaction as opposed to being passive aggressive and letting management deal with it.

Come to an understanding. Maybe during the early evening. Not at the time of the noise/yelling/banging.

For all they know, maybe they think that nobody else can hear the noise.

That way at least if they continue, you have full reason to escalate. Police, jurisic body, etc.

I have tried the same thing at my condo face to face. Most of them claim ignorance and say they can not understand English. I have had them tell me it is not them and when I come back a few days later to tell them it is them, they get hostile. The best thing I do is when they wake me up now, I go to the fuse box on that floor and turn off their electric to their room and then turn it back on when I get up in morning. I they have no electric they only have the option of going to sleep or go out again. It works

[paulsh]

Have any of you guys actually thought of possibly talking to the neighbors? Human to human interaction as opposed to being passive aggressive and letting management deal with it.

Come to an understanding. Maybe during the early evening. Not at the time of the noise/yelling/banging.

For all they know, maybe they think that nobody else can hear the noise.

That way at least if they continue, you have full reason to escalate. Police, jurisic body, etc.

I have tried the same thing at my condo face to face. Most of them claim ignorance and say they can not understand English. I have had them tell me it is not them and when I come back a few days later to tell them it is them, they get hostile. The best thing I do is when they wake me up now, I go to the fuse box on that floor and turn off their electric to their room and then turn it back on when I get up in morning. I they have no electric they only have the option of going to sleep or go out again. It works

That's really smart, too bad in most condos the electric meters are locked in a small room...

[tropo]

Have any of you guys actually thought of possibly talking to the neighbors? Human to human interaction as opposed to being passive aggressive and letting management deal with it.

Come to an understanding. Maybe during the early evening. Not at the time of the noise/yelling/banging.

For all they know, maybe they think that nobody else can hear the noise.

That way at least if they continue, you have full reason to escalate. Police, jurisic body, etc.

I have tried the same thing at my condo face to face. Most of them claim ignorance and say they can not understand English. I have had them tell me it is not them and when I come back a few days later to tell them it is them, they get hostile. The best thing I do is when they wake me up now, I go to the fuse box on that floor and turn off their electric to their room and then turn it back on when I get up in morning. I they have no electric they only have the option of going to sleep or go out again. It works

That's really smart, too bad in most condos the electric meters are locked in a small room...

The trouble makers would have to be pretty dumb to fall for that plan. If my power goes out I head straight for the fuse box to take a look - don't most people?

[tropo]

My mate in Australia had the same issue with young guys next door. Used to park his lawnmower under the guy's bedroom window early in the morning, after they had kept him up all night partying, fill it up with petrol and start it up on full revs. Then he would go out. They got the message after a while.

Don't know if this would work for the op, being Pattaya they would probably kill him and keep partying.

Yeah they probably would, especially since it would be somewhat difficult to explain why you're revving up the lawnmower on the 16th (or whatever) floor of a condo.

Payback is the worst idea of all because both parties can play that game and it could get ugly.

For example, if someone started revving up a lawnmower during the day as payback, what's to stop the night revelers from redoubling their efforts the next night in revenge.

Day sleepers are also more immune to noise than night sleepers because they have to be. Some night sleepers are extremely sensitive to noise. They can also be really annoying when they start complaining about insignificant sounds.

[ingvar]

The condominium act of Thailand and the condominium regulations (which must be submitted to the land office according law and informed to all condominium co-owners) are very clear regarding this point. This behaviour is simply not allowed in the condominium. If the manager is not doing anything about it he is not doing his/her job and should be reported to police.