denkiblue555 Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Very interesting - not getting any hopes up for a reasonable price here in LOS, but still...... http://rideapart.com/2013/10/leaked-online-2014-ktm-rc390/ 324 pounds (dry) 43 horses 373.2 cc single Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yingyo Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Looks like it would suddenly transform, stand up and run away. I'll take mine in all orange thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Osborne Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 lovely looking bike... shame they didn't throw in V-twin though..... 'sports-bikes' above 250cc with a single cylinder doesn't seem right to me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yingyo Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Like the Duke 200 and its pricing. I predict a promo price of 390k baht. The queue of rich-kid Thai 17 year olds will be around the block. Edited October 26, 2013 by yingyo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Looks like a Chinese copy of a Ducati! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yingyo Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 ^ More R150 or whatever the little Yammy 150 based on the R6/R1 is called. They've certainly taken modern stealth design to the next level. I guess that this and the ninja 300 are going to be the designs that future (smaller) sports bikes are based on. All sharp edges and OTT extremism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 lovely looking bike... shame they didn't throw in V-twin though..... 'sports-bikes' above 250cc with a single cylinder doesn't seem right to me ? 324 pounds (dry). That is the reason why they did not bother with a twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hili Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 First ktm should manage to bring the duke 390 to Thailand. I still waiting.... Sent from my HTC Desire X using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 lovely looking bike... shame they didn't throw in V-twin though..... 'sports-bikes' above 250cc with a single cylinder doesn't seem right to me ? Whenever you post here NOTHING ever seems right to you.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 lovely looking bike... shame they didn't throw in V-twin though..... 'sports-bikes' above 250cc with a single cylinder doesn't seem right to me ? 324 pounds (dry). That is the reason why they did not bother with a twin. So wet it would be about 162KG (357lbs) similar to the new Cbr300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) lovely looking bike... shame they didn't throw in V-twin though..... 'sports-bikes' above 250cc with a single cylinder doesn't seem right to me ? 324 pounds (dry). That is the reason why they did not bother with a twin. So wet it would be about 162KG (357lbs) similar to the new Cbr300 Actually it holds 10 liters so about 21 pounds of fuel So more like 345 lbs wet Look at it more like almost 100 pounds lighter than a cbr500 & about the same horsepower but with much better suspension & components. I agree that a twin would have been the way to go with this but this is a big improvement over anything in its size range. Would have been a nice touch to have the frame modular so if crashed the rear section could be changed out I also do not think weight was the deciding factor of it being a single. Remember KTM does singles very well. In Moto3 they & Honda are the only competitive engines This I think is the main reason that they went no further than a single """KTM RC390 is right at the limit of Europe’s A2 tiered-license scheme,""" They are already hitting the limit Edited October 26, 2013 by meechai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBF Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Want one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 lovely looking bike... shame they didn't throw in V-twin though..... 'sports-bikes' above 250cc with a single cylinder doesn't seem right to me ? 324 pounds (dry). That is the reason why they did not bother with a twin. So wet it would be about 162KG (357lbs) similar to the new Cbr300 Actually it holds 10 liters so about 21 pounds of fuel So more like 345 lbs wet Look at it more like almost 100 pounds lighter than a cbr500 & about the same horsepower but with much better suspension & components. I agree that a twin would have been the way to go with this but this is a big improvement over anything in its size range. Would have been a nice touch to have the frame modular so if crashed the rear section could be changed out I also do not think weight was the deciding factor of it being a single. Remember KTM does singles very well. In Moto3 they & Honda are the only competitive engines This I think is the main reason that they went no further than a single """KTM RC390 is right at the limit of Europe’s A2 tiered-license scheme,""" They are already hitting the limit You forgot the oil and water!! Sent from my phone with the app thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) ^^ I shouldn't have written "dry" - That weight is actually "without fuel".....so I assume this means with all other fluids. Here are some more pics from the link: If it were priced remotely close to the Honda or Kawasaki (like around 200ish) it would be a wicked choice, but as someone mentioned above, IF it ever came here they'd be sure to price it at 390k.... shame, as I am guessing it is made in India and will probably be sold there for less than the Honda is sold for here. Looks awesome I reckon... Edited October 26, 2013 by denkiblue555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 ^^ And the absolute icing on the cake would be if parts/engines could be swapped with say, some of the EXC range. (not sure but I believe the 390 engine is based off the EXC-F 350 ??). Many of the off-road models KTM makes have parts that can be swapped - like changing a 5-speed to a 6 etc. It would certainly make for some interesting mods if it were possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Through time there have been a few big singles that have piqued the imagination of small boys and men alike. And their dreams...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Through time there have been a few big singles that have piqued the imagination of small boys and men alike. And their dreams...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Basicly a duke 390 - which is using the same chassis and most probably the same suspensions with duke 200 - with clip ons and fairing actually. Same chassis, same wp suspensions, same weight. Looks good though and i am sure it might be a joy to ride in bangkok and tight twisties. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Basicly a duke 390 - which is using the same chassis and most probably the same suspensions with duke 200 - with clip ons and fairing actually. Same chassis, same wp suspensions, same weight. Looks good though and i am sure it might be a joy to ride in bangkok and tight twisties. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app The subframe looks different to me, I'd imagine there are a lot of similarities but I am hoping there are also a lot of differences! But as you said it would be as 'duke 200/390' as possible to keep costs down. I guess we'll have to wait until EICMA! Regardless, it is always good to see more action in the sub-500cc market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 ^ I think on duke 390, sub frame is closed by plastic panels. So all duke 200, 390 and rc390 basicly the same apart from maybe some suspension tweaks and engine - 200 to 390. I dont fell good on that much cost cutting. Still, it does not change the fact that it looks cool! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Looking at this http://www.motorbeam.com/bikes/kawasaki-ninja-300r/ktm-duke-390-vs-kawasaki-ninja-300-shootout/ The Ninja 300 seems the better bike Although I would like the suspension & brakes & weight of the KTM with the Ninja engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Looking at this http://www.motorbeam.com/bikes/kawasaki-ninja-300r/ktm-duke-390-vs-kawasaki-ninja-300-shootout/ The Ninja 300 seems the better bike Although I would like the suspension & brakes & weight of the KTM with the Ninja engine did not expect that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meechai Posted October 27, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Here is something else new The RC line will include a 125 & a 200 No spec yet but all 3 models will debut at EICMA KTM is making what looks like some very fun back roads bikes Edited October 27, 2013 by meechai 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Looking at this http://www.motorbeam.com/bikes/kawasaki-ninja-300r/ktm-duke-390-vs-kawasaki-ninja-300-shootout/ The Ninja 300 seems the better bike Although I would like the suspension & brakes & weight of the KTM with the Ninja engine did not expect that The 2 downers for the Ninja were the high price and the lack of ABS. Here in Thailand it has ABS and is much cheaper then the KTM. The Ninja 300 is a great deal here it seems... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBR250R Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Looking at this http://www.motorbeam.com/bikes/kawasaki-ninja-300r/ktm-duke-390-vs-kawasaki-ninja-300-shootout/ The Ninja 300 seems the better bike Although I would like the suspension & brakes & weight of the KTM with the Ninja engine The reviewer really seemed to like the Ninja 300 right from the start. I do too. I was at our local dealership with a friend and both of us came close to buying two at the same time - for a bit of a discount. However, I'm still undecided. One issue is weight. The Ninja 300 is a relative "pig" in terms of weight. Almost 60lbs heavier than the 390. I know Kawasaki could have done better here. Yet - I suspect the Ninja 300 to be much smoother than the 390 Duke - something many would feel is important. Still - after the reviewer suggested that both bikes achieve essentially the same fuel economy - I stopped reading at that point. From everything I've read on both bikes - the 390 Duke has been turning in significantly better fuel economy figures in virtually all riding conditions. Perhaps it was just lazy writing on the part of the reviewer. But it's hard not to assume that some bias (latent?) was in play here. In a area where the Duke 390 should have won hands down - it was essentially judged a tie. I think they could have spent more time providing evidence to back up their claim. I think a better comparison would involve the RC390 and the Ninja 300 anyway - and am looking forward to reading some other comparison reviews of these bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 To my eyes the KTM looks nicer than the Ninja; obviously higher end components and a bit more HP (what is that ~40 HP rear wheel versus the 34'ish on the Kawasaki?). Lacking a slipper clutch, Kawasaki's tried and proven reliability and a dealership network. Will probably end up costing stupid money, as previously mentioned, but as always good to see choices out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) Looking at this http://www.motorbeam.com/bikes/kawasaki-ninja-300r/ktm-duke-390-vs-kawasaki-ninja-300-shootout/ The Ninja 300 seems the better bike Although I would like the suspension & brakes & weight of the KTM with the Ninja engine did not expect that The 2 downers for the Ninja were the high price and the lack of ABS. Here in Thailand it has ABS and is much cheaper then the KTM. The Ninja 300 is a great deal here it seems... Its funny sometimes how the same bikes are perceived in different markets. i bet in India the ninja enjoys higher status compared to the ktm while in thailand its the opposite. Its just a shame that it could not be the other way around, I would love to have a ktm at a reasonable price (in india you can even call it cheap). Ninja fans in Thailand are obviously happier with the current situation..... Edited October 29, 2013 by pokerkid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Appears the price in LOS will start at Bt 339,000. Not much excitement there - still, nice looking bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Appears the price in LOS will start at Bt 339,000. Not much excitement there - still, nice looking bike. Ouch almost 2 Ninja 300's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Appears the price in LOS will start at Bt 339,000. Not much excitement there - still, nice looking bike. Ouch almost 2 Ninja 300's? Yup, I guess that is SV650 / Versys / legit-import 600cc territory? Could be a hope of 299k promos I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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