Since living in Thailand my teeth are deteriorating rapidly

[Ghostnigel]

I had veneers on the front 2 toofies in the Phillipines, a couple of days before going to Hong Kong, by the time i got to the airport the veneers fell off.....quality eh?

[laislica]

1. Improve your general health...proper diet (veggies), exercise.

2. Brush with baking soda, rinse with 3% hydrogen peroxide (both locally available & cheap).

3. Practice 'oil pulling' with coconut oil (YouTube for details)

Or not...up to you.

My general health is very good. I exercise daily, play football often, Muay Thai, crossfit, i'm a fitness fanatic really.

Also, my diet is good, i'm careful about what i eat.

I'll check out oil pulling, but don't hydrogen peroxide going anywhere near my mouth

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10 years ago I was told that they stopped using hydrogen peroxide on cuts. That was in a first aid course I took put on by St. James ambulance and also a nurse friend of mine. It apparently could cause more harm. I believe it would burn the area surrounding where it was put on cuts and what not.

It may depend on the grade of H202. Pure (without additives) and at the correct strength (not too strong) it is fantastic. I use it all the time.

I have read this:- At one time, the most common household use of hydrogen peroxide was to disinfect wounds, but it is now thought to slow healing by affecting tissue growth through several possible factors. Only a very minute concentration of H2O2 can induce healing, and only if not repeatedly applied.

I recently had two implants to support a bridge. I got a gum infection and my dentist wanted me to take a course of antibiotica - I declined.

I went home and did the interprox brushing and H2O2 rinsing. A few days later totally cured.

No inflammation, no bleeding, no pain, no bad smell!

No after effects of antibiotics either so I'm a happy (ancient) Chappy

But, each to their own.

Whatever makes someone comfortable.

[scubascuba3]

I'm not convinced you need to see the dentist more frequently than yearly. Going to the Hygenist more frequently however may be a good plan especially if the price is good in Thailand.

+1 for Braun oral B electric toothbrush, I've used for years, a manual brush just can't match it

Edited January 7, 2014 by scubascuba3

[laislica]

Do you have many ice coffees/ice teas? Packed with sugar, I was having 5 a day until I realised now 0-1

Wow....5 fillings a day, you should dentists mate...

I think you got the wrong thread

Have a look at

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/269250-worst-joke-ever/

[MilesofSmiles]

Did anyone else brush their teeth after reading this thread?

[pinkpanther99]

Did anyone else brush their teeth after reading this thread?

Twice!

[sawadee1947]

...fluoride is one thing, but you eat a lot of sugar and glutamate which they mixed into their food.

[pinkpanther99]

As a few members commented that the reason for my increase in fillings since living in Thailand was down to 'over-zealous' dentists or dentists just out to make a quick buck out of, let me tell you what happened to me this afternoon.

As mentioned in one of my earlier posts, I had an appointment with the dentist this afternoon for what I thought would be my eight filling. After examining my teeth, to my surprise the dentist informed me that it wasn't a filling that I needed. As he said that I'm thinking he's going to say I need a tooth removed or some serious work carried out. But to my surprise he told me that the problem was to do with my brushing technique, that I'm basically using too much force when brushing which is causing damage to the gum around the root of the tooth, resulting in it being more exposed than it should be. His advice was to change my brushing technique from long straight strokes to small circular motion. He also advised me to use a toothpaste specifically for sensitive teeth. He said providing I change my brushing technique the area around the tooth which is over exposed should be back to normal in a month or so.

Now, he didn't have to tell me all that did he? He could of started drilling away and given me another filling, I wouldn't have known any different.

Oh and the best bit is - he didn't even charged me for the consultation and gave me a free tube of Sensodyne toothpaste.

[scubascuba3]

Did anyone else brush their teeth after reading this thread?

Twice!

Could be cleaning too much :-)

[laislica]

As a few members commented that the reason for my increase in fillings since living in Thailand was down to 'over-zealous' dentists or dentists just out to make a quick buck out of, let me tell you what happened to me this afternoon.

As mentioned in one of my earlier posts, I had an appointment with the dentist this afternoon for what I thought would be my eight filling. After examining my teeth, to my surprise the dentist informed me that it wasn't a filling that I needed. As he said that I'm thinking he's going to say I need a tooth removed or some serious work carried out. But to my surprise he told me that the problem was to do with my brushing technique, that I'm basically using too much force when brushing which is causing damage to the gum around the root of the tooth, resulting in it being more exposed than it should be. His advice was to change my brushing technique from long straight strokes to small circular motion. He also advised me to use a toothpaste specifically for sensitive teeth. He said providing I change my brushing technique the area around the tooth which is over exposed should be back to normal in a month or so.

Now, he didn't have to tell me all that did he? He could of started drilling away and given me another filling, I wouldn't have known any different.

Oh and the best bit is - he didn't even charged me for the consultation and gave me a free tube of Sensodyne toothpaste.

Great!

Thanks for completing with this update.

and good to see how you have calmed down (Thumbs UP)

So go with a Braun electric brush for starters or something similar?

[scubascuba3]

As a few members commented that the reason for my increase in fillings since living in Thailand was down to 'over-zealous' dentists or dentists just out to make a quick buck out of, let me tell you what happened to me this afternoon.

As mentioned in one of my earlier posts, I had an appointment with the dentist this afternoon for what I thought would be my eight filling. After examining my teeth, to my surprise the dentist informed me that it wasn't a filling that I needed. As he said that I'm thinking he's going to say I need a tooth removed or some serious work carried out. But to my surprise he told me that the problem was to do with my brushing technique, that I'm basically using too much force when brushing which is causing damage to the gum around the root of the tooth, resulting in it being more exposed than it should be. His advice was to change my brushing technique from long straight strokes to small circular motion. He also advised me to use a toothpaste specifically for sensitive teeth. He said providing I change my brushing technique the area around the tooth which is over exposed should be back to normal in a month or so.

Now, he didn't have to tell me all that did he? He could of started drilling away and given me another filling, I wouldn't have known any different.

Oh and the best bit is - he didn't even charged me for the consultation and gave me a free tube of Sensodyne toothpaste.

Great!

Thanks for completing with this update.

and good to see how you have calmed down (Thumbs UP)

So go with a Braun electric brush for starters or something similar?

An ex girlfriend had a similar issue with some teeth more exposed than normal, he said not to use an electric toothbrush. I think its just too much cleaning or too hard cleaning

[nomad127]

I was having some gum issues and the dentist said they were erroding, she told me the best way to stop or at least slow it down was to get 8 fillings, I told her NO.

[laislica]

As a few members commented that the reason for my increase in fillings since living in Thailand was down to 'over-zealous' dentists or dentists just out to make a quick buck out of, let me tell you what happened to me this afternoon.

As mentioned in one of my earlier posts, I had an appointment with the dentist this afternoon for what I thought would be my eight filling. After examining my teeth, to my surprise the dentist informed me that it wasn't a filling that I needed. As he said that I'm thinking he's going to say I need a tooth removed or some serious work carried out. But to my surprise he told me that the problem was to do with my brushing technique, that I'm basically using too much force when brushing which is causing damage to the gum around the root of the tooth, resulting in it being more exposed than it should be. His advice was to change my brushing technique from long straight strokes to small circular motion. He also advised me to use a toothpaste specifically for sensitive teeth. He said providing I change my brushing technique the area around the tooth which is over exposed should be back to normal in a month or so.

Now, he didn't have to tell me all that did he? He could of started drilling away and given me another filling, I wouldn't have known any different.

Oh and the best bit is - he didn't even charged me for the consultation and gave me a free tube of Sensodyne toothpaste.

Great!

Thanks for completing with this update.

and good to see how you have calmed down (Thumbs UP)

So go with a Braun electric brush for starters or something similar?

An ex girlfriend had a similar issue with some teeth more exposed than normal, he said not to use an electric toothbrush. I think its just too much cleaning or too hard cleaning

Sure, every case is personal and individual and independent!

You just need to get the right advice - For You!

It is also great to have a good general knowledge on that subject and well done the OP.

He now has enough info to confuse Wiki LOL

Seriously, this is one of the nicest threads I have contributed to - very little trolling.

Nice thread OP - Thanks I also learned something - have more research to do.....

Thanks to all the posters and Happy New Year to all

[pinkpanther99]

As a few members commented that the reason for my increase in fillings since living in Thailand was down to 'over-zealous' dentists or dentists just out to make a quick buck out of, let me tell you what happened to me this afternoon.

As mentioned in one of my earlier posts, I had an appointment with the dentist this afternoon for what I thought would be my eight filling. After examining my teeth, to my surprise the dentist informed me that it wasn't a filling that I needed. As he said that I'm thinking he's going to say I need a tooth removed or some serious work carried out. But to my surprise he told me that the problem was to do with my brushing technique, that I'm basically using too much force when brushing which is causing damage to the gum around the root of the tooth, resulting in it being more exposed than it should be. His advice was to change my brushing technique from long straight strokes to small circular motion. He also advised me to use a toothpaste specifically for sensitive teeth. He said providing I change my brushing technique the area around the tooth which is over exposed should be back to normal in a month or so.

Now, he didn't have to tell me all that did he? He could of started drilling away and given me another filling, I wouldn't have known any different.

Oh and the best bit is - he didn't even charged me for the consultation and gave me a free tube of Sensodyne toothpaste.

Great!

Thanks for completing with this update.

and good to see how you have calmed down (Thumbs UP)

So go with a Braun electric brush for starters or something similar?

An ex girlfriend had a similar issue with some teeth more exposed than normal, he said not to use an electric toothbrush. I think its just too much cleaning or too hard cleaning

Sure, every case is personal and individual and independent!

You just need to get the right advice - For You!

It is also great to have a good general knowledge on that subject and well done the OP.

He now has enough info to confuse Wiki LOL

Seriously, this is one of the nicest threads I have contributed to - very little trolling.

Nice thread OP - Thanks I also learned something - have more research to do.....

Thanks to all the posters and Happy New Year to all

Yes, this thread has certainly given me plenty of info. Thanks to all who contributed so far

Edited January 7, 2014 by pinkpanther99

[Water Buffalo]

1. Improve your general health...proper diet (veggies), exercise.

2. Brush with baking soda, rinse with 3% hydrogen peroxide (both locally available & cheap).

3. Practice 'oil pulling' with coconut oil (YouTube for details)

Or not...up to you.

Where is the best place to get such items in Thailand? I have heard baking soda should be mixed with salt (for minerals) is that correct?

Of course, you need to floss (2x a day at least).

I am suspecting the OP might be using local TOOTHPASTE with strong whitening properties. Or actual local whiteners. Some of these products are horrible and very abrasive so if you use them over time especially with harder brushing (which is common) you will cause abrasion damage requiring fillings. Yes this happened to me and I am certain the dentist was NOT scamming me.

Anyway -- I would be very cautious about using any local whitening products that are abrasive.

Which toothpaste is good? Colgate? Although i find with toothpastes that have too much fluoride in them i get stains on my teeth because of that

I was having some gum issues and the dentist said they were erroding, she told me the best way to stop or at least slow it down was to get 8 fillings, I told her NO.

I am have some gum erosion issues. I think it is too many years of brushing hard. Now i am brushing soft and i think the erosion is still occurring. Have you found and answer?

[endi11]

While eating,one of my fillings fell inside my mouth.Went to the dentist at Cenral.She started working and after 10 min.

said it's done and hands me a mirror.To my surprise I saw that there was no filling on the tooth and let her know.She

said:oh you want filling on this one too.I was very angry,but nothing I could do.So instead of paying for one filling,

I ended paying for 2 with one filling on a healthy tooth.On a top of that she was very rude when escorting me out

to the cashier.There are 2 dentist offices at Central.The one I went I think was on a 3rd floor and no customers

waiting.The second dentist on floor 4 with 3 or 4 customers waiting.That's the dentist I'll visit next time.

[risky11]

Better dose yourself with some more fluoride.

Fluoride is a highly toxic substance. Consider, for example, the poison warning that the FDA now requires on all fluoride toothpastes sold in the U.S. or the tens of millions of people throughout China and India who now suffer serious crippling bone diseases from drinking water with elevated levels of fluoride. http://fluoridealert.org/

[mushroomdave]

^{ALWAYS used bottled water for brushing on my frequent trips here and ever since I moved here too...... haven't had a problem yet......knock on wood!!}

[nomad127]

1. Improve your general health...proper diet (veggies), exercise.

2. Brush with baking soda, rinse with 3% hydrogen peroxide (both locally available & cheap).

3. Practice 'oil pulling' with coconut oil (YouTube for details)

Or not...up to you.

Where is the best place to get such items in Thailand? I have heard baking soda should be mixed with salt (for minerals) is that correct?

Of course, you need to floss (2x a day at least).

I am suspecting the OP might be using local TOOTHPASTE with strong whitening properties. Or actual local whiteners. Some of these products are horrible and very abrasive so if you use them over time especially with harder brushing (which is common) you will cause abrasion damage requiring fillings. Yes this happened to me and I am certain the dentist was NOT scamming me.

Anyway -- I would be very cautious about using any local whitening products that are abrasive.

Which toothpaste is good? Colgate? Although i find with toothpastes that have too much fluoride in them i get stains on my teeth because of that

I was having some gum issues and the dentist said they were erroding, she told me the best way to stop or at least slow it down was to get 8 fillings, I told her NO.

I am have some gum erosion issues. I think it is too many years of brushing hard. Now i am brushing soft and i think the erosion is still occurring. Have you found and answer?

I am now using an Extra Soft Toothbrush, not using any mouthwash that contains alcohol and a toothpaste that is specifically made for gum issues (last two are imported in). Seems to be working.

[MAJIC]

Dental malpractice is not limited to Thailand. Here is a link to a shocking Reader's Digest article.

http://benemax.go2dental.com/ReaderDigestArticle.pdf

Reading this article,it's easy to see why the recommended American way of becoming filthy Rich,is to become a lawyer or a dentist,they are both unscrupulous trades of crooks! that not only leave you potless,but if they get a chance,will leave you toothless as well!