fstarbkk Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I wonder how soon she'll be of the alumni honory list of Kentucky U. I wonder if anyone ever verified that she was actually enrolled there. Judging by her English, I can't imagine that she could comprehend most of what they're talking about there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Title of this topic seems somewhat incorrect. I mean, with the golf caddy having advised this 'election promise' there was no need to 'drag' Ms. Yingluck into it, now was there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poisonus Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Yingluck is lying low in BKK under the guise of overseeing the protests....LOL What she means is 'I have nowhere else to go'. She can't go south and now she can't risk going back up north because if she did, the damage to Thaksin's image would be in serious jeopardy if she is seen being heckled by a few thousand rice farmers in Buriram or Udon. She seems to have shit in her nest everywhere now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Confusing headline. I thought she originated the rice scam under orders from her brother..... Headline should be.... " Rice subsidy gone terribly wrong, and now Yingluck has to pay the piper" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 This rice payment issue is going to become an election bribe as it was 2.5 years ago - what are the odds PTP will soon deliver a statement saying - vote for us and you will get your money, but the truth of the matter is they have no money until the 2x trillion baht scam loan gets approved if ever, PTP have raped this country to levels never imagined before - they have lied - cheated - deceived - thieved for over 2 years............... Thaksins revenge and during this time Thaksin has trebled his wealth from $400m to almost $1.5 billion - a figure that most Thais couldn't even imagine Most Thais don't understand that information is the key. Thaksin knows before anyone else what the government policies will be, he invests accordingly, and no surprise to anyone, cleans up. Even if he didn't make policy, having his entire family in government makes it impossible to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brevity Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Excuse of course will be that : as she has never actually attended a meeting of the committee which she chairs she cant be held responsible. That's the same kind of thing I was thinking. It seems likely that Thaksin has told her all along which committees to head up, what official functions to get involved in and what policies to push through government. She is probably the most confused of anybody about why she may be investigated. If you don't really understand what you are doing every day or what is happening around you, it must be very confusing when the sh*t hits the fan and lands on you. Does anybody else have a bit of sympathy for this woman and feel that maybe is really mostly a victim of her big brother and not actually responsible for all the cock ups this government has made? No. She's not the brightest light but nobody can convince me she didn't know plenty of details of the 'join the paymasters get real rich real quick club'. And I have little doubt the carrot dangled for her was a pretty good carrot. Did she personally design the rice scheme? Very doubtful, but any person with half a brain would have checked how it worked. She was possibly pushed a little to become the pm but she wasn't forced into the job. She said yes, so she has to accept the consequences. Should she be pretty angry with her puppet master and possibly other up front members of the family clan? Interesting to say the least. Fair enough, and I agree that if she steps into the shoes, she should know where she's going to be walking. I was only curious to know if some people see her as a victim in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim armstrong Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 This is the most serious miscalculation that the government has.made so far. The Thaksin machine has seriously underestimated the loyalty of rice farmers, who are not an isolated minority. They may not have so much formal education, but they understand better than anyone else how to use their often limited incomes. They have been led to believe that all they have to do is keep on producing more rice. They have borrowed massively to make this happen, but like so many farmers in other countries, they have limited knowledge of marketing, and have no control over who to, where, or how much their rice is being sold for. If they work out how many middlemen both within and outside the government are getting a cut, and they will, it may be the straw that breaks the Shinawatras' back. Given that the rubber farmers are also not being paid, and that the baht continues to fall, it makes you wonder just how solvent this government really is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Caretaker PM Yingluck dragged into rice subsidy scandal Thaksin: " Sorry, sister,.. you first, bye bye... " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) This rice payment issue is going to become an election bribe as it was 2.5 years ago - what are the odds PTP will soon deliver a statement saying - vote for us and you will get your money, but the truth of the matter is they have no money until the 2x trillion baht scam loan gets approved if ever, PTP have raped this country to levels never imagined before - they have lied - cheated - deceived - thieved for over 2 years............... Thaksins revenge and during this time Thaksin has trebled his wealth from $400m to almost $1.5 billion - a figure that most Thais couldn't even imagine Most Thais don't understand that information is the key. Thaksin knows before anyone else what the government policies will be, he invests accordingly, and no surprise to anyone, cleans up. Even if he didn't make policy, having his entire family in government makes it impossible to lose. Of course Thakisin knows what the government policies will be. He thinks them up, passes them to Yingluck who says we really to do this and if you don't I will tell my big brother and he will sort you out, so there. Edited January 16, 2014 by billd766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 It's amazing the massive sums of money that the Yingluck administration is distributing even as we speak - with all the " nasty " campaign restrictions in place ( though not enforced ). That underscores just how habitual and widespread these corruption practices have become. It would be inconceivable for the NACC not to look into this - of all scandals. But there seems to be no doubt that the administration will come up short of cash, thereby - in one fell swoop - alienating the very core constituency they have so continuously relied upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Excuse of course will be that : as she has never actually attended a meeting of the committee which she chairs she cant be held responsible. That's the same kind of thing I was thinking. It seems likely that Thaksin has told her all along which committees to head up, what official functions to get involved in and what policies to push through government. She is probably the most confused of anybody about why she may be investigated. If you don't really understand what you are doing every day or what is happening around you, it must be very confusing when the sh*t hits the fan and lands on you. Does anybody else have a bit of sympathy for this woman and feel that maybe is really mostly a victim of her big brother and not actually responsible for all the cock ups this government has made? She's a grown woman so in theory she should have made the decision after studying what was involved and whether she had the experience to do it. Of course if she'd refused she may have had to find a job on her own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccarty Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Guess this is not subsidy money but actual purchase for resale on the world market. So did the government actually take delivery then sell the rice? The intent seems noble to provide a fair price for poor farmers that would otherwise be subject to whatever brokers would pay them. Too bad it has gone this direction and wonder what the real debt to the farmers still is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgriz Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I wonder how soon she'll be of the alumni honory list of Kentucky U. The Kentucky University doesn't even make the TOP 400 universities in the USA. So, I wouldn't be to proud of that (alumni honorary list) to begin with :-) Just for the sake of accuracy, it is Kentucky State University. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_State_University Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Excuse of course will be that : as she has never actually attended a meeting of the committee which she chairs she cant be held responsible. You mean she learned from DSI's Tarit, who did not attend one meeting of the 2010 CRES with Abhisit and Suthep, which is why only these two are now charged with murder by the (you guessed it) same Tarit from DSI. Clever, clever... maybe a bit too clever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 She's the chairwoman of the committee. Was she never not in it up to her eyeballs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I wonder how soon she'll be of the alumni honory list of Kentucky U. I wonder if anyone ever verified that she was actually enrolled there. Judging by her English, I can't imagine that she could comprehend most of what they're talking about there. I don't know what her standard of English is but if it's as bad as some say then I'm not sure how she managed either. according to my wife her Thai isn't that good either. I can't confirm that of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 "Pee, when I'm Prime Minister will it be the same as being President of one of your companies?" "Well almost, Poo. Just keep dressing like a hi-so, turn up to the occasional meeting, smile and talk a lot... but SAY nothing.... and if anybody asks you haven't seen me, right? Oh, one other thing, you won't be able to call yourself 'President'. Not yet anyway." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 When in the capacity of CEO/Prime Minister/Chairperson, you are responsible for your actions. If therefore corruption is rampant you my dear have to face the consequences. You have to realize this. you have to be aware of the dangers when you take the helm. On things such as this --mega scale you cannot say give me time as you said before it is not wearing your people are not as stupid as you think. It's one of the oldest command dictums there is - ' You can delegate authority, You cannot delegate responsibility '. Having said that senior figures in Thailand manage to make a mockery of the above concept as they can, and do, wriggle out of any responsibility regularly and with no apparent difficulty.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 This rice payment issue is going to become an election bribe as it was 2.5 years ago - what are the odds PTP will soon deliver a statement saying - vote for us and you will get your money, but the truth of the matter is they have no money until the 2x trillion baht scam loan gets approved if ever, PTP have raped this country to levels never imagined before - they have lied - cheated - deceived - thieved for over 2 years............... Thaksins revenge and during this time Thaksin has trebled his wealth from $400m to almost $1.5 billion - a figure that most Thais couldn't even imagine According to 'Forbes"' magazine the figures are even higher: Thaksin Shinawatra & family Net Worth $1.7 B As of July 2013 Source: http://www.forbes.com/profile/thaksin-shinawatra/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man River Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I think somebody on the Editorial staff need to seriously consider employing a pre-university grade mathematician to check the numbers published in The Nation. Not a good situation really. So farmers whom the BAAC cannot afford to pay are having to use their land as collateral to borrow money from the same bank that cannot afford to pay them the money for the rice pledging scheme. How ironic. The ice holding up Thailand's economy gets thinner each day, whoop whoop, it will soon be time to transfer a lot of GBP or USD into baht - happy days. Udon Rungfah, manager of the Buri Ram branch of the Bank of Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives (BAAC), said the bank was unable to pay over 2,000 farmers who have sold their rice as it has yet to receive a Bt68 million budget from the government. Is it actual funds or a budget allocation? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokemachine Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Caretaker PM Yingluck dragged into rice subsidy scandal Dragged into?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabruce Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Either farmers are unhappy cos' rice does not pay or a subsidy is put in place which destroys Thaiand's rice-exports. Now farmers cannot get paid what was agreed under a very controversial scheme. Does anything work ? I think that the rice farmer subsidies under the Democrats were working okay - though the farmers didn't get the same inflated price. (it was the difference between what they could sell the rice for and a preset guaranteed price. The government didn't stockpile everything.) Something like that at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 So let's see Tally time - pissed of the middle class in BMA Check pissed of the rubber farmers in the south CHECK pissed off the rice farmers in the north CHECK pissed of the medical people all over Check Ok anyone left? The longer the PDRC goes the more people that the PT seem to have upset and are taking them to court and without the OH we are in parliament rule they re truly upthat creek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Still waiting for the Dems to take advantage of the situation and make some promises to these disappointed people, relayed via someone neutral and untainted. Its almost like they don`t want to try and win these people over. (the ONLY way they can ever achieve power democratically) Instead they just back a corrupt lunatic running around Bangkok shouting "Victory is Ours" at ever smaller crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShannonT Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 My family from Ubon just called and said they have received their rice payment this afternoon and their uncle in Buriram had also received it this morning. If you have family members in the North or Northeast, check with them and have them go ask at the office, most probably the payments are now ready to be claimed. Good news indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 My family from Ubon just called and said they have received their rice payment this afternoon and their uncle in Buriram had also received it this morning. If you have family members in the North or Northeast, check with them and have them go ask at the office, most probably the payments are now ready to be claimed. Good news indeed. Now that's interesting news indeed. It suggests that farmers in the Pheu Thai voting Isaan region get paid, but not those from less enthousiastic on Pheu Thai Lower North and Central regions. Must be pure coincidence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 My family from Ubon just called and said they have received their rice payment this afternoon and their uncle in Buriram had also received it this morning. If you have family members in the North or Northeast, check with them and have them go ask at the office, most probably the payments are now ready to be claimed. Good news indeed. Now that's interesting news indeed. It suggests that farmers in the Pheu Thai voting Isaan region get paid, but not those from less enthousiastic on Pheu Thai Lower North and Central regions. Must be pure coincidence Buriram is not Pheu Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 .........'dragged in to'......................???? ....are you joking.....??? ....she....via.....you-know-who.........hatched this scam.....uh....scheme...uh....'revolutionary economic plan'...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) My family from Ubon just called and said they have received their rice payment this afternoon and their uncle in Buriram had also received it this morning. If you have family members in the North or Northeast, check with them and have them go ask at the office, most probably the payments are now ready to be claimed. Good news indeed. Now that's interesting news indeed. It suggests that farmers in the Pheu Thai voting Isaan region get paid, but not those from less enthousiastic on Pheu Thai Lower North and Central regions. Must be pure coincidence Buriram is not Pheu Thai Correct, my mistake. Buriram is Newin BJT country. Didn't BJT indicate to want to join the February 2nd elections? I guess more information is needed before we continue this conversation. Edited January 16, 2014 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 It should be the buck stops here !, but this been Thailand no one is going to take any responsibility,for anything. The full truth about whats been going on with this scam will never be told,how long can Thailand go on loosing tax payers money with this and a myriad of other dubious, blatantly corrupt schemes is the question,money wasted when it could have been put to good use to improve things for the good of the Thai people. regards Worgeordie Simple solution................. just put taxes up....already happening and the rich don't pay tax ,never have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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