We have this block of land we just started work on yesterday...last week we struck a deal with the neighbours which was good for all of us, especially them.

What it involved was a road which ran down the length of our blocks boundary of some 50m long.

Currently this road is on their land entirley, we needed to have a road down this section which we could use as we intend to sell the land. So we struck a deal to make the road half on their land and half on ours, we pay for the Makro to move the road over, any more dirt required we paid for and stone for the surface we paid for and constructed.

The important thing is here that they get use of circa 50 wah of their own land back...for nothing.

We agreed to have this road then gazetted as a government road, so we both give up ownership of it, but the government then raises the road and more stone etc, plus puts in the electric poles. We were happy with this as we both wanted this access for future selling of the land for subdivision etc.

Yesterday the Makro arrives and the neighbours change their mind about us taking half the dirt from the road and using it to complete the road on our side, they wanted us to add to the roads width with dirt dug from our place and we pay for it all of course.

Told them to shuv it, decision was made on the spot to make the road WE need on our land, fence them off and be done with it. They do not get to reclaim their 50 odd wah of land.

Further...we have approximately 60sq metres of land on our side which we have made a drain for them to get water for their rice...which obviously travels across our land and we cannot use that 60m or more, for anything.

Guess who is not going to have water this season to grow rice because of their narrow minded ignorant short sighted attitude.

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and now you have a property with no access (to)...

You gotta laugh.

When they ask to use the water say yes then at the last minute, change your mind.

I don't know how.

I don't know when.

But this is gonna come back around and bite the OP in the left butt cheek.

thats the problem with people today, seems most people cannot see past their nose.

we needed to have a road down this section which we could use as we intend to sell the land.

So you build the road, what is the problem?

thats the problem with people today, seems most people cannot see past their nose.

Not after they've cut it off to spite their face...

Nothing, the fact that they see the world through tunnel vision is their problem, not yours.

Actually it's showbags prob--and possibly a big one. If he builds a road (without permission) on his neighbor's property then he's trespassing...

I don't know how.

I don't know when.

But this is gonna came back around and bite the OP in the left butt cheek.

Yes. Do keep us updated!

Actually it's showbags prob--and possibly a big one. If he builds a road (without permission) on his neighbor's property then he's trespassing...

methinks you are misreading the post. the road runs up his boundary. All he has to do is build a road beside their road.

Make it clear the road is now on your land, if they use it or cross it ( to access water etc) they are trespassing. I hope I am wrong, but I feel this is not over and there will be further developments at some point.

Best of luck.

I don't know how.

I don't know when.

But this is gonna come back around and bite the OP in the left butt cheek.

You thinking violence?

Studying your case carefully and after giving it due consideration, Ihave come to this one conclusion. Just one mistake as I see it YOU BROUGHT LAND!!!. Condos mate,condos, you get to keep 50%.

I don't know how.

I don't know when.

But this is gonna come back around and bite the OP in the left butt cheek.

You thinking violence?

Not violence. But, as Joe Cocker would say, We get by with a little help from our friends (and neighbors). There's a thousand ways that having good relationships with neighbors will improve quality of life, and hundreds of ways that a bad relationship with our neighbors can really make life more difficult.

One day, we all need a favor. Like, for example, the day the surveyors come out and inform you that you built your fence 4 inches over the line onto your neighbor's property. Or a road, perhaps.

BTW, I know Joe wasn't the first to sing the song, but I like his the best.

we needed to have a road down this section which we could use as we intend to sell the land.

So you build the road, what is the problem?

He makes less money if he ever sells the smaller sized land (illegally).

There's a couple for you.

and now you have a property with no access (to)...

Actually it's showbags prob--and possibly a big one. If he builds a road (without permission) on his neighbor's property then he's trespassing...

You no unnserstan

We have access and we have water and we have chanote titles with already defined and approved boundaries...so no issue there.

By simply building the road half on their land and half on ours...we both win and at absolutely no cost to them and they get 50/60 wah of land back.

Now, as we have done today, we build the road on our land only, so we lose a little and yes a little less to sell...maybe...but I have a plan for that.

Big issue is that they lose their water as we have let it run down another boundary, around a corner and over into their land....this used up about a 1 metre wide drain for 50/60m's...we will tomorrow while the Makro is still there...be leveling that drain and getting that 1m wide strip back to plant trees.

Unfortunately they will have to buy rice to eat this year.

Studying your case carefully and after giving it due consideration, Ihave come to this one conclusion. Just one mistake as I see it YOU BROUGHT LAND!!!. Condos mate,condos, you get to keep 50%.

Have bought and sold a few blocks, so no issue there and all should flow ok with this one also....fingers crossed.....but it is worth a lot more than all the others...she might have a sneaky plan...

Remember if they have no access to a public road they can use your road for access.

Be careful before blocking that 'drain', it may be protected even if on your land.

Remember if they have no access to a public road they can use your road for access.

No they cannot if it is fenced and gated.

But that is not the issue

You probably can't legally affect the water rights of the folks downstream. Plug up their water supply (especially if it predates your ownership of your land) and I'll bet you'll wish you hadn't.

Remember if they have no access to a public road they can use your road for access.

No they cannot if it is fenced and gated.

But that is not the issue

Read the law on access rights.

Remember if they have no access to a public road they can use your road for access.

No they cannot if it is fenced and gated.

But that is not the issue

Read the law on access rights.

Tell me more?? ie if their land has NO PAPERS ie is up a hill and cannot be "owned" and my land has nor sor sam gor, whats the score there??

ps this is my situation not the OP's sorry to butt in OP

We have access and we have water and we have chanote titles with already defined and approved boundaries...so no issue there.

By simply building the road half on their land and half on ours...we both win and at absolutely no cost to them and they get 50/60 wah of land back.

Now, as we have done today, we build the road on our land only, so we lose a little and yes a little less to sell...maybe...but I have a plan for that.

Big issue is that they lose their water as we have let it run down another boundary, around a corner and over into their land....this used up about a 1 metre wide drain for 50/60m's...we will tomorrow while the Makro is still there...be leveling that drain and getting that 1m wide strip back to plant trees.

Unfortunately they will have to buy rice to eat this year.

They don't win because later you say you will give up ownership to the government.

We have access and we have water and we have chanote titles with already defined and approved boundaries...so no issue there.

By simply building the road half on their land and half on ours...we both win and at absolutely no cost to them and they get 50/60 wah of land back.

Now, as we have done today, we build the road on our land only, so we lose a little and yes a little less to sell...maybe...but I have a plan for that.

Big issue is that they lose their water as we have let it run down another boundary, around a corner and over into their land....this used up about a 1 metre wide drain for 50/60m's...we will tomorrow while the Makro is still there...be leveling that drain and getting that 1m wide strip back to plant trees.

Unfortunately they will have to buy rice to eat this year.

They don't win because later you say you will give up ownership to the government.

Read...absorb...understand...

But in case thats not possible...they get half of the current road BACK for them to use as rice land or whatever they wish to do with it....it will be road no more....gettid ?

Thailand is not a place where i would be upsetting neighbours even if i was in the right, i am surprised your girlfriend hasn't said something. How long have you been living in Thailand?

Be careful, life is cheap here , and a missing farang ....Who would care .

Thailand is not a place where i would be upsetting neighbours even if i was in the right, i am surprised your girlfriend hasn't said something. How long have you been living in Thailand?

She started it.

12 years.

Anything else ?