Phra Buddha Issara leads protesters to besiege Voice TV

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Phra Buddha Issara leads protesters to besiege Voice TV
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Protesters led by Phra Buddha Iassara started rallying outside the Voice TV satellite TV station at 9:20 am Monday.

The protesters arrived in five buses and several pick-up trucks.

The TV station is owned by Pantongtae Shinawatra, the son of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

The monk announced that farmers, who were rallying in front of the Commerce Ministry, would move to rally in front of the TV station as well and they would stay overnight there.

The monk said farmers were dissatisfied that the TV station had reported that the protesting farmers were not real ones but established protesters.

"So, the farmers want to show that they are the real ones," the monk said.

The station was guarded by 20 policemen led by Pol Col Charoen Srisalak, deputy commander of Metropolitan Police Division 2.

The monk criticized the police for guarding the TV station instead of helping farmers.

The monk said police should set up a new police station at the TV station if they would like to serve the Thaksin regime.


-- The Nation 2014-02-24

[icommunity]

This is what is called a peaceful protest?

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Abbot leads protesters to rally at Voice TV



BANGKOK: -- Hundreds of anti-government protesters led by Luang Poo Buddhaissara rallied in front of Voice TV channel on Vibhavadia Rangsit road this morning in this week’s renewed campaign called by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) to protest and boycott all the Shinawatra family’s businesses.

More than 10 bus-loads of protesters arrived at the Voice TV office before 10.00 a.m. and blockaded the front gate of the station.

Luang Poo Buddhaissara demanded the channel executives to give a chance to farmers to air their grievances on Voice TV same as other group of farmers supporting the government

The abbot said if the station refused, then all protesters will hold out at its compound and stay overnight until farmers are given chance to speak

Voice TV is the business owned by Thaksin Shinawatra’s son Panthongtae Shinawatra. It is widely known as the mouthpiece of the red-shirts and the government.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/abbot-leads-protesters-rally-voice-tv/


-- Thai PBS 2014-02-24

[HeavyDrinker]

How much will this one net him?

[Fat Haggis]

Pretty disgusting using the farmers, who actually have a real grievence, as pawns to further their own attention seeking status.

How about shutting your pie hole Issara and let the leader of the farmers talks for themsleves and not for you!!

[fab4]

Abbot leads protesters to rally at Voice TV

BANGKOK: -- Hundreds of anti-government protesters led by Luang Poo Buddhaissara rallied in front of Voice TV channel on Vibhavadia Rangsit road this morning in this weeks renewed campaign called by the Peoples Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) to protest and boycott all the Shinawatra familys businesses.

More than 10 bus-loads of protesters arrived at the Voice TV office before 10.00 a.m. and blockaded the front gate of the station.

Luang Poo Buddhaissara demanded the channel executives to give a chance to farmers to air their grievances on Voice TV same as other group of farmers supporting the government

The abbot said if the station refused, then all protesters will hold out at its compound and stay overnight until farmers are given chance to speak

Voice TV is the business owned by Thaksin Shinawatras son Panthongtae Shinawatra. It is widely known as the mouthpiece of the red-shirts and the government.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/abbot-leads-protesters-rally-voice-tv/

-- Thai PBS 2014-02-24

Fair enough, allow the farmers to have their say and in return the government get to denounce and arrest "buddha" issara live on bluesky.

[rreddin]

Pretty disgusting using the farmers, who actually have a real grievence, as pawns to further their own attention seeking status.

How about shutting your pie hole Issara and let the leader of the farmers talks for themsleves and not for you!!

Sad to say they are just pawns and equally dispensable to those who are using them to promote their own anti-democratic aims. Ironically, if Suthep had allowed the Dems to field candidates and allowed all those folk in the south to vote, we might now have a different party leading the government, albeit a coalition. But being elected into government through the democratic process is not and never was the real aim.

[TVGerry]

This is what is called a peaceful protest?

Well yes it is. Any bombs exploding at Voice TV? Any shots fired?

[Fat Haggis]

This is what is called a peaceful protest?

Well yes it is. Any bombs exploding at Voice TV? Any shots fired?

That's true, but when you prevent someone from entering their place of work, and they get pissed off about it, then it's not peaceful is it? There's a difference between protesting and allowing people to move freely to and from their place of work, than to blockade them from doing so.

What next? anyone who has worked for the Shiniwatras or continues to work be publically flogged for putting bread on the table and shoes on their kids feet and earning a wage?

[Davidhere]

This is what is called a peaceful protest?

Based on the details given in the OP, yes.

[Davidhere]

How much will this one net him?

Much less than...

"Voice TV is the business owned by Thaksin Shinawatras son Panthongtae Shinawatra. It is widely known as the mouthpiece of the red-shirts and the government."

[Davidhere]

Pretty disgusting using the farmers, who actually have a real grievence, as pawns to further their own attention seeking status.

Disgusting is...

"the TV station had reported that the protesting farmers were not real ones"

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[Davidhere]

That's true

What next? anyone who has worked for the Shiniwatras or continues to work be publically flogged

That's quite a Grand Canyon leap you make from acknowleding it's a peaceful protest to wondering if public floggings are next.

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[Gweiloman]

This is a case of trespassing and should the owners decide to exercise their civil rights to disperse the trespassers, I hope the supporters of such an action would not cry foul.

[Fat Haggis]

Many people have questioned the farmers authenticity, if I told you I was a Submarine Commander would you believe it?

It's truths half truths and lies all the time, both sides spinning to their minions, it's easy enough to prove you're a farmer, just bring your land deeds with you and present them as bona fides and that will stop people questioning your credibility and background.

I have participated in large gatherings in Iraq, where out of 2-3 hundred people the ones with a genuine grievence were less than 3 or 4 individuals, the rest were sheeple, just following the crowds to see what was going on, it was classic rent a mob.
I'm NOT saying this is always the case, but it happens and I'm NOT saying this is what's happening here, but the genuine farmers have a grievence, and they need to have theirs sorted before all this reformation stuff.

What happened to the Millions, I read somewhere that Suthep raised over 50 Million for the farmers, why did he not organise a PR stunt in front of the worlds media, and hand over that money to the leader of the Farmers? That would have elevated him more favourably to the remaining farmers, and nay sayers don't you think?

Or did he collect it, and bank it in his own accounts, allowing his account to gain the daily interest accumulated?

What's wrong with Issara going to the TV station with the leader(s) of these farmers and asking to set the record straight? and allow the voice of the farmers heard?

[Fat Haggis]

That's true

What next? anyone who has worked for the Shiniwatras or continues to work be publically flogged

That's quite a Grand Canyon leap you make from acknowleding it's a peaceful protest to wondering if public floggings are next.

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If you're going to quote me, then use the whole quote as it was a question, not a statement, hence the questions marks !!

[h90]

Pretty disgusting using the farmers, who actually have a real grievence, as pawns to further their own attention seeking status.

How about shutting your pie hole Issara and let the leader of the farmers talks for themsleves and not for you!!

It is the government who abuses the farmer....by not paying. It isn't a grievance that came from god....it is made by the Shinawatras who also own Voice TV

[TVGerry]

This is what is called a peaceful protest?

Well yes it is. Any bombs exploding at Voice TV? Any shots fired?

That's true, but when you prevent someone from entering their place of work, and they get pissed off about it, then it's not peaceful is it? There's a difference between protesting and allowing people to move freely to and from their place of work, than to blockade them from doing so.

What next? anyone who has worked for the Shiniwatras or continues to work be publically flogged for putting bread on the table and shoes on their kids feet and earning a wage?

Since when have any protests in the history of mankind not pissed off or inconvenienced someone?

[Scamper]

Farmers are still reeling at the " you're not real famers ". That is a phrase that will doubtless be passed from generation to generation. Absolutely, rally in front of a TV station that is dedicated to claiming you are not real farmers. And the fact that it is a Thaksin family station is I am sure quite coincidental.

Edited February 24, 2014 by Scamper

[binjalin]

disgraceful fake monk at it again

[Fat Haggis]

Exactly Gerry!! And it's when tempers flare and it's 34 degrees it tends to go from flash to bang in seconds, that being said, the vast majority of the protests have had the carnival atmoshphere, but now they've seem to have taken more darker undertones.

But like I said, there's a difference between protesting about something, than physically preventing access to locations and places of work and resorting to Intimidation and eventualy violent confrontation

There was a very serious incident in Iraq a couple of months ago, google the Schlumberger riot, I used to work in that camp 2 years ago, and that situation went from flash to bang in minutes, and mobs decended on that place looting and beating anyone that got in their way, all done over a religious flag that was asked to be removed by the client..These mobs appeared very quickly and over 2 days they even passed through several IP checkpoints to get there, the IP were useles, on par with the Thai Police.

[icommunity]

This is what is called a peaceful protest?

Well yes it is. Any bombs exploding at Voice TV? Any shots fired?

If a bomb exploded and shot fired, it is called a violence armed protest. So, you are saying when people block the entrance or road to your house in protest, if no bomb exploded, no shot fired, it is peaceful???

Edited February 24, 2014 by icommunity

[icommunity]

This is what is called a peaceful protest?

Based on the details given in the OP, yes.

If group of people block your house and prevent you from going out and coming in. is it peaceful?

[Prbkk]

does the monk hold shares in any of the competitors?

[agent69]

Many people have questioned the farmers authenticity, if I told you I was a Submarine Commander would you believe it?

It's truths half truths and lies all the time, both sides spinning to their minions, it's easy enough to prove you're a farmer, just bring your land deeds with you and present them as bona fides and that will stop people questioning your credibility and background.

If they hadn't lost their land already. A lot of farmers lend money to grow their next crop. The 15,000 baht a ton from the rice scheme sounds good. Part of the stories that had never been told until recently is that since the rice scheme was instroduced the prices of the fertiliser, pesticide and herbicide went up proportionally. They would not get much left from the sale after all the debt was deducted from the payout. Some local official would do almost anything to take their land for the rich investors (or thieves).

What happened to the Millions, I read somewhere that Suthep raised over 50 Million for the farmers, why did he not organise a PR stunt in front of the worlds media, and hand over that money to the leader of the Farmers? That would have elevated him more favourably to the remaining farmers, and nay sayers don't you think?

Or did he collect it, and bank it in his own accounts, allowing his account to gain the daily interest accumulated?

25 mil baht was raised to help the farmers in court. Money was divided into chunks of 200,000 baht. Each of the 11 families that lost their member from suicide would get 200,000 baht.

The rest of money was used for running the protest. Each family that lost members from the attacks will get 1 million baht. Each studying children from the families that lost their members would have 2 million baht fund for thier education. Each injured person will receive 20,000 baht.

Edited February 24, 2014 by agent69

[antimedia]

Amazing how both the Nation and Thai PBS conveniently forget to mention the real reason for going to the TV station.

Luang Pu 'visits' Voice TV Thaksin's children asked to help indebted farmers - online news Bangkok Post

If you keep relying on the media for your pathetic arguments you will always end up as a shame job. A little difficult for a lot of the red farangs, trying to balance on a bar stool and write something credible.

[bkksteviejai]

Pretty disgusting using the farmers, who actually have a real grievence, as pawns to further their own attention seeking status.

How about shutting your pie hole Issara and let the leader of the farmers talks for themsleves and not for you!!

Spot on. I hope these farmers do force Yingluck to step down to be honest because her prime ministerial nous seems to be dog sh@t, no other reason. But not with these PDRC numpties jumping all over it.

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[antimedia]

Pretty disgusting using the farmers, who actually have a real grievence, as pawns to further their own attention seeking status.

How about shutting your pie hole Issara and let the leader of the farmers talks for themsleves and not for you!!

First of all, that is exactly what they have requested and secondly, what about the leader of the farmers the other day. Brought a convey of farmers to Bangkok, cut a deal for himself and took them home. Result, an empty promise and more out of pocket expenses.

[asiamint]

disgraceful fake monk at it again

Really? How is he fake? Care to defame his character any more?

Are you the type of person that would prefer nice and lazy monk's sitting around a dirty temple with rubbish every where?

Thai Monks need to be more like him and less lazy.

He has a right to be there considering the grave lies coming out of that building

[Robroona]

disgraceful fake monk at it again

Must really tax your brain to make such a comment. Lot of thinking went into that one, I bet