Rally leader Taya suspends activities for safety of her family; Thaksin's ex-wife at Emporium

[rubl]

Of course the hypocrites are going to blame the protestors for bombing themselves. They hide behind 'reason' but the fact of the matter is, their side can do no wrong and the real victims are always the ones that are 'bombing themselves!'

I think the reds have suffered far more deaths and injuries over the last decade than the Yellows.

It is sad that there should be any casualties at all, especially when all this could have been resolved through the acceptance by the losers of the results of elections.

It's the others to be blamed, for sure, our man of reason says so.

Following some reference to losers and elections and the normal confusion of democracy = elections. Not a single wod about "respect my vote" even AFTER it has been counted.

So, democratic Thailand. Whistle at the ex of the big boss and risk your life. Blame it on PDRC and Suthep. Nothing to do with the criminal fugitive who still runs his government, commands it and let's it tell all that the others are undemocratic. Waiting for more details on why the others are to be blamed, probably from Pol. Captain Chalerm who's in Singapore for advise

[Johnnie99]

The Srivikorn family has so many business interests here it is probably more of a financial decision rather than a familial one.

[rubl]

"prompted her to feel sorry for what she had done".

And so she should!

Did you guys see the actual video of this public intimidation and threats of violence?

These goons harrased them all the way to the car park and then attempted to stop them from leaving.

resigned because she fears safety for the kids at her mums school MY ASS!

Just another right wing snob couple that started a fight and ran away the first sign of repercussion of their loutish behaviour

pipe bomb thrown at home. Attack on mum's home outside Bangkok.

Somewhat 'extreme' repercussions I'd say, even crossing the line towards criminal.

Not sure what country you come from, but most democracies would see the whistled at ignore the incident or at the most lodge a police complaint. Repercussions in the form we've seen here would have grave consequences with the original 'victim' losing much of that status and being ask to come do some explaining. The illegal repercussions would also most likely see the police complaint concluded with 'no further actions'.

PS the story changes if you do the whistle blowing as American celebrities. Some of them have no problem to make their displeasure immediately and violently know, even some of the females. So be careful who you blow your whistle at

[dru2]

ManofReason, on 07 Mar 2014 - 10:51, said:

Yet another Thai learning that actions have consequences.

Yeh, consequences, you blow a whistle, you get bombs thrown at your house.

Thais should open their eyes and learn more from these actions.

Pretty much.

You tease a dog, you're going to get bitten.

This is true the world over.

Why the surprise?

What makes you think the violence would only occur in one direction?

Blowing whistles isn't violent, dummy.

[gabruce]

Yet another Thai learning that actions have consequences.

Think about what you have just said...!! You are advocating bombings of even those who are not directly involved in any of the current mess.

I don't know who you are a reincarnation of (possible Jacksh1t, who went missing some weeks ago) but you are treading on dangerous ground here.

Most of us here are able to adopt a mature, balanced perspective of the current situation in Thailand; we do not need extremists in our midst...!!

I'm not advocating anything, it's false of you to suggest that I am.

I am stating what is common knowledge.

Actions have consequences.

I have voiced neither approval or disapproval of either the actions or the consequences in the referenced situation.

Nobody operates in a vacuum, what we do affects others which in turn affects the way they act towards us.

In life the best course of action is to follow the golden rule i.e. Do unto others as you wish them to do unto you.

Blowing whistles in someones ear or firing a rifle hidden within a popcorn bag is going to provoke a response that you will be, at the very least, partially responsible for.

You started off well. Of course actions have consequences. Trying to make blowing a whistle and firing a gun equivalent is just disturbing. I suppose if I ever met you and didn't smile at you and you shot me, you would claim that it's my fault for not smiling! Disturbed.

[TVGerry]

Of course the hypocrites are going to blame the protestors for bombing themselves. They hide behind 'reason' but the fact of the matter is, their side can do no wrong and the real victims are always the ones that are 'bombing themselves!'

I think the reds have suffered far more deaths and injuries over the last decade than the Yellows.

It is sad that there should be any casualties at all, especially when all this could have been resolved through the acceptance by the losers of the results of elections.

If you're going to count bodies then why don't you mention the fella who has the most blood on his hands? I think he's responsible for more deaths in the last CENTURY than anyone else.

[ManofReason]

ManofReason, on 07 Mar 2014 - 10:51, said:

Yet another Thai learning that actions have consequences.

Yeh, consequences, you blow a whistle, you get bombs thrown at your house.

Thais should open their eyes and learn more from these actions.

Pretty much.

You tease a dog, you're going to get bitten.

This is true the world over.

Why the surprise?

What makes you think the violence would only occur in one direction?

Blowing whistles isn't violent, dummy.

The video of the incident is clear evidence of an assault on a citizen going about their personal business in a public space. No society could function if such activities were tolerated as normal behaviour, one could not enter a public environment without fear of harrassment. The whistle blowers actions are viewed as illegal in almost any country on the planet that you would care to visit.

[gerry123]

all of the above plus the audience has buggered off

[ManofReason]

Of course the hypocrites are going to blame the protestors for bombing themselves. They hide behind 'reason' but the fact of the matter is, their side can do no wrong and the real victims are always the ones that are 'bombing themselves!'

I think the reds have suffered far more deaths and injuries over the last decade than the Yellows.

It is sad that there should be any casualties at all, especially when all this could have been resolved through the acceptance by the losers of the results of elections.

If you're going to count bodies then why don't you mention the fella who has the most blood on his hands? I think he's responsible for more deaths in the last CENTURY than anyone else.

No need for exaggerations. the facts speak for themselves finely.

[captspectre]

Yet another Thai learning that actions have consequences.

So, you say that it is NORMAL that someone get shot at them mother house, thrown grenades at them house... because they blew whistles at the ex-wife of a former PM!!!

Is it THIS your conception of DEMOCRACY?

I would say that it is the Thai way! democracy has nothing to do with it! a democraticaly elected P.M. was illegally ovethrown. remember?

[Baerboxer]

Yet another Thai learning that actions have consequences.

and hopefully so will the violent terrorist thugs who carried out these attacks.

Or there again perhaps they already know they're safe of any consequences. All depends who you support.

[julemanden]

I thought Buddhists, were pacifists! Or is this just another example of Thai Buddhism?

No, red shirts

[Baerboxer]

Yet another Thai learning that actions have consequences.

So, you say that it is NORMAL that someone get shot at them mother house, thrown grenades at them house... because they blew whistles at the ex-wife of a former PM!!!

Is it THIS your conception of DEMOCRACY?

I would say that it is the Thai way! democracy has nothing to do with it! a democraticaly elected P.M. was illegally ovethrown. remember?

She hasn't been overthrown. She is still caretaker PM and DM at the moment. She chose to dissolve parliament and call a snap election in response to mass protests against certain unpopular bills and illegal actions by her government.

The illegal actions are the subject of numerous probes and investigations. If found innocent she may carry on. If not she will have to face the consequences.

PTP may have to learn that being democratically elected does not mean you are above the law or that your corruption is legitimate. If innocent, they have nothing to fear.

[smovi57]

This is one of those 'Only In Thailand' stories. Why I cannot fathom would anyone deduce that blowing whistles at an ex wife (emphasis on the EX) of Thaksin would in anyway be getting at him. I got an ex wife, and if anyone in the PDRC is at a loss what to do with all their excess whistles, do I have a plan for you!

They are still together,they separated for legal reasons to keep safe billons of baht.

[Baerboxer]

You are again incorrect.

I did not state that the "same" response is to be expected for blowing a whistle or firing a rifle.

I simply stated that "a" response, for which you would at the very least be partially responsible for, is to be expected.

Please try and stick to facts.

Without getting sidetracked MOR I'm interested in you opinion as you seem to be big on action = consequence. Do you think having a grenade thrown at your house is a reasonable consequence of of blowing a whistle at someone.

Absolutely not. Both are crimes, granted that one is much more severe than the other. Actions do have consequences and unfortunately the consequences are not always proportional to the action that birthed them. All the more reason to think before acting.

You do a good job of summing the red shirt / Thaksin proxy parties mind set there. If some one dares to oppose them, however they express themselves, the can expect extreme retaliation,

Blow a whistle - we shoot and bomb

Investigate us for corruption - we burn a coffin to send you a message, Stop or else

Speak against us - stay away from "our" towns or else

They really do want to install the fear in people to think of the dire consequences before complaining. We are the government - we can lie, cheat and act illegally. Question that ethos and the boys will be round.

[pmugghc]

"prompted her to feel sorry for what she had done".

And so she should!

Did you guys see the actual video of this public intimidation and threats of violence?

These goons harrased them all the way to the car park and then attempted to stop them from leaving.

resigned because she fears safety for the kids at her mums school MY ASS!

Just another right wing snob couple that started a fight and ran away the first sign of repercussion of their loutish behaviour

So why didn't she take her complaints to the police? I'm sure they would have acted quickly since their boss' ex was harassed.

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[pmugghc]

ManofReason, on 07 Mar 2014 - 10:51, said:

Yet another Thai learning that actions have consequences.

Yeh, consequences, you blow a whistle, you get bombs thrown at your house.

Thais should open their eyes and learn more from these actions.

Pretty much.

You tease a dog, you're going to get bitten.

This is true the world over.

Why the surprise?

What makes you think the violence would only occur in one direction?

Blowing whistles isn't violent, dummy.

The video of the incident is clear evidence of an assault on a citizen going about their personal business in a public space. No society could function if such activities were tolerated as normal behaviour, one could not enter a public environment without fear of harrassment. The whistle blowers actions are viewed as illegal in almost any country on the planet that you would care to visit.

And in those countries the harassed would've reported it to the police. Throwing bombs isn't the answer.

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[Artisi]

I don't want to see her hurt but I believe 2 months in jail would be an appropriate sentence for her violence and harassment

Yep, 2 months inside for Potjaman would be appropriate for the violence and harassment she more than likely arranged.

[diehard60]

Yet another Thai learning that actions have consequences.

Yet another Thai bowing to Red Shirt intimidation.

BTW your avatar is appropriate.

Where is your PROOF?????????? You have none.

[MobileContent]

Deputy Governor must have been a Democrat I guess.

She forget she is in Thailand which means if you look wrong at someone they could pop you off.

Now I wonder if her school's licence will be removed or if they find some pieces in the closet such as paying money under the table to get admitted to her school. This is surely not the end of the story and I am sure she is in for the money for her school.

Edited March 7, 2014 by MobileContent

[binjalin]

horrible woman who shows disdain for respect and hounds people shopping... naturally bombs are more abhorrent and must be condemned by all sides

[thaigold]

Yet another Thai learning that actions have consequences.

So, you say that it is NORMAL that someone get shot at them mother house, thrown grenades at them house... because they blew whistles at the ex-wife of a former PM!!!

Is it THIS your conception of DEMOCRACY?

Retaliation is a very human need. Maybe she was lucky, they killed JFK.

[rubl]

Deputy Governor must have been a Democrat I guess.

She forget she is in Thailand which means if you look wrong at someone they could pop you off.

Now I wonder if her school's licence will be removed or if they find some pieces in the closet such as paying money under the table to get admitted to her school. This is surely not the end of the story and I am sure she is in for the money for her school.

Interesting reasoning which seem to bring us further and further away from the violent reaction of some on an Amply Rich lady having a whistle blown at her.

[metisdead]

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[TVGerry]

If you're going to count bodies then why don't you mention the fella who has the most blood on his hands? I think he's responsible for more deaths in the last CENTURY than anyone else.

No need for exaggerations. the facts speak for themselves finely.

Yes the facts do speak for themselves. 2000-3000. Who else in this century has a high number than that?

[SOTIRIOS]

....we at TV are 'graced' with yet another 'incarnation'.....different name.....same...._____.........

[ggt]

Edward Snowden...blew the whistle at the US gov't...spying on ordinary citizens and gov't around the world...before he could be killed...he left the country...life is still in danger...so...YES...blowing a whistle or the whistle...can have dire consequences...depending upon the hubris, ego, arrogance, and mentality of the one receiving the unwanted noise and exposure...

[thaiguzzi]

Yawn. Can't stand the heat in the kitchen, don't cook. Saw her mum on tv the other morning, jeez, bet she's pissed off having to pay maids, gardeners, cleaners a minimum wage these days. Not like the old days, when they were actually beholden to her, and grateful for work.

[kikoman]

I don't want to see her hurt but I believe 2 months in jail would be an appropriate sentence for her violence and harassment

Why? She isn't the one bombing people.

More to the point why isn't thaksin's ex in gaol? i thought she'd got three years for corruption or something like that.

What does anything about anyones ex wife have to do with being, followed, intimidated and harassed in a public place?

This person needs to be brought up on charges, she has no right to blow whistles at anyone, as no one has a right to intimidate her mother for her stupid actions!. Yet she saw fit to violate another person, as someone thought the same in intimidating her mom! Both were wrong!

Cheers

[metisdead]

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