At least 27 dead in north Thailand bus accident: police

[brewsterbudgen]

Another tragedy and yet again no reaction from authorities. I do not work for Fox news but I am not shy to say SHAME ON YOU THAILAND.

Again, again and again: No control + no authority + no standard + failed State + No police + corruption + laxity = TOTAL ANARCHY!

* Road Safety

* Tourism scams

* Poor Construction Standards

* Food poisoning (by abuse of chemicals and pesticides)

* Pollution (Oil slicks, illegal dumps etc...)

And so on and so on, just name it.

Thailand DECADENCE

What "reaction" do you expect from the authorities? At the time that this article hit what information do they have? What injuries and to whom? No, just tentative numbers. Why the brakes failed? No. You should have stopped at Road Safety. At least you have a statistic for it in the current article (although from what I have seen in other countries I do not believe that the numbers could possibly have been arrived at in a comprehensive fashion). If you are using anarchy in any other than a rhetorical sense then you do not know what it is. You support your statement with items such as pollution, tourist scams and shortcuts in construction- welcome to Earth. (BTW- you do not know what food poisoning is). A prime motivation for expats being here is because they feel safe and in spite of all of the malicious spin that the likes of you put on things you have chosen Thailand because you know that your bum is secure.

But let's deal with the article itself. The presentation on "deadliest roads" is an off topic rave composed of sensationalistic sophistry. It addresses traffic accidents due to careless driving and drunken driving. It mentions a previous bus tragedy without citing the cause. There is not one bit of historical information on accidents due to motor vehicle equipment failure. The accident occurred because "The brakes failed as the bus came downhill on a hilly road...". Furthermore you will note that the article steered clear of providing any evidence that the section of road where the accident occurred is poorly engineered.

You want "decadence" then take a look at miserable creatures who have degenerated to being at a loss for gratification unless they defame others. You like Fox News- you should work for them- Defamation is their dish.

At last, a sane, rational, non-emotive post. Thanks for writing it.

[Munger]

Another tragedy and yet again no reaction from authorities. I do not work for Fox news but I am not shy to say SHAME ON YOU THAILAND.

Again, again and again: No control + no authority + no standard + failed State + No police + corruption + laxity = TOTAL ANARCHY!

* Road Safety

* Tourism scams

* Poor Construction Standards

* Food poisoning (by abuse of chemicals and pesticides)

* Pollution (Oil slicks, illegal dumps etc...)

And so on and so on, just name it.

Thailand DECADENCE

What "reaction" do you expect from the authorities? At the time that this article hit what information do they have? What injuries and to whom? No, just tentative numbers. Why the brakes failed? No. You should have stopped at Road Safety. At least you have a statistic for it in the current article (although from what I have seen in other countries I do not believe that the numbers could possibly have been arrived at in a comprehensive fashion). If you are using anarchy in any other than a rhetorical sense then you do not know what it is. You support your statement with items such as pollution, tourist scams and shortcuts in construction- welcome to Earth. (BTW- you do not know what food poisoning is). A prime motivation for expats being here is because they feel safe and in spite of all of the malicious spin that the likes of you put on things you have chosen Thailand because you know that your bum is secure.

But let's deal with the article itself. The presentation on "deadliest roads" is an off topic rave composed of sensationalistic sophistry. It addresses traffic accidents due to careless driving and drunken driving. It mentions a previous bus tragedy without citing the cause. There is not one bit of historical information on accidents due to motor vehicle equipment failure. The accident occurred because "The brakes failed as the bus came downhill on a hilly road...". Furthermore you will note that the article steered clear of providing any evidence that the section of road where the accident occurred is poorly engineered.

You want "decadence" then take a look at miserable creatures who have degenerated to being at a loss for gratification unless they defame others. You like Fox News- you should work for them- Defamation is their dish.

At last, a sane, rational, non-emotive post. Thanks for writing it.

"techboy" is not sane, but a Thai apologist like you. He tried to defend a bus driver a few weeks ago, that killed 18, and then fled the scene. "techboy said he did not break the law. <deleted>, the driver did not have a licence AND fled the scene. Do a seach for the thread "brewster",and wise up.

[brewsterbudgen]

Will do. But I still think his post in this thread makes a lot of sense.

I don't intend to apologise for Thailand or the actions of Thais. But nor do I condemn them out of hand. Thailand has its faults, but as foreigner I will keep my criticisms to myself and continue to enjoy my life here.

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[Tomtomtom69]

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Why do we not hear about the same tragic accidents in Cambodia , or Laos ? Roads are even worse than here and from what I have experienced myself , plenty of crazy driving on the roads.

They certainly happen - but it's mainly motorbike acccidents. The are significantly fewer cars and buses on the roads than in Thailand.

Yes, that's true although let's not forget the crash of a Thai motorcyclist in Saiyabuli province of Laos a bit over a year ago I think it was, resulting in the death of a local villager where inadequate compensation was given and the rider just fled - but generally speaking, in the case of Laos, drivers there seem to be able to drive on mountainous roads far more skillfully than any Thai drivers. There are also a large number of foreign registered vehicles driving along Laos' highways that you will spot on every single journey, anywhere in the country, whether they are Thai, Vietnamese or Chinese registered (the most common ones) or from some far away country, most drivers in Laos can drive there much more skillfully than what I've seen in Thailand.

In summary, Lao drivers are fairly slow and sane. Cambodian drivers, who are used to mainly flat and straight roads often drive in a diabolical and suicidal fashion - blind overtaking and no regard for other road users, definitely worse than Thailand.

[Artisi]

Never seen a country where brakes fail so much,am sure pads , discs an fluid were checked regularly eh?

And how does one prove brake failure in a ravine 150 metres in depth with the bus a total wreck in such a short period of time? Sorry but it wasn't the drivers fault and on and on, how bout using gears in slowing down the bus? Sorry can't Dai that either as that would bring the driver culpable for neg driving causing death. Is there such a thing as accountability to such and other matters in Thailand! I think not...

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First up you would inspect the brake Pads (if discs) / linings (if conventional braking system) for signs of overheating / burning, the colour of the discs or drums for signs of overheating, then a thorough inspection of all associated brake components for signs of failure, lack of maintenance, faults etc. Modern brake systems are pretty well state-of-the-art nowadays and not all that likely to fail without due cause, although brake failures do occur but usually there is some pre-warning unless a catastrophic failure -- this is brake failure - anything else is driver, maintenance failure or outright stupidity.

[TechnikaIII]

I came across a bad car accident last week, 1 car involved and a (now broken) concrete telegraph pole. Later that morning I was passing it again and had one of the Thais in the car take a photo so we could use it at our daily morning safety meeting to try promoting safety on the road......They are all educated (Thai Engineers) and had zero concern about the fate of the occupants but were all worried about ghosts near the accident. I give up on these idiots.

Yes, and on the way to Mae Sot I have seen a few too .. smashed vehicles, bodies still in them, people standing around talking, smoking. Not an emergency vehicle in sight. Nor did we pass any on the way, in either direction. In the world we come from, one would be aware that something had happened up ahead, because of the emergency vehicles with sirens screaming, speeding on their way to get to the scene as soon as possible, .

Here the only interest in the victim, is (in Thai) ... "See if he has a cigarette lighter."