rijit Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 You can take it a step further and ask yourself if we really want to sign him. Ask yourself how you feel about Bale....yes the Saints midfielder would be a good addition...however..... Perhaps its just something we have to accept as the norm nowadays. yeah we want to sign him but not at 27 mil. southampton neithwr need or want to sell so theyve whacked the price up.now.its down to levy and the player to work the situ 2 get what they want, hense all the bulshit. happened b4 no.doubt it'll happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Personally i reckon bottom line.this whole scenario is about levy not meeting southamptins valuation, everything else is a by product of that. Well now that wouldn't surprise anyone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 A contract is a contract and they have contracts for a reason. In employment terms it is there to protect both employee and employer and when both parties agreed and signed it, they were both happy with that agreement. If people were to ignore contracts without recourse, the world would be in disarray (more than it is already). Has Schneiderlin put in a transfer request yet? Players and agents don't like doing that cos it costs them a lot of money. But if he wants to get out of his contract, that's what he should do. Southampton are not in the wrong here and just want a player who is contracted to the club, to do his job. Unfortunately if a player really wants to go there is no point in keeping him. He can keep to his contract and just not play well. We had the same problem with Anelka when him and his brother were trying to force a move to the Galactitossers, but at least we got good money out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Would still expect Arsene to be in the frame for Schneiderlin if he is put under the hammer. 15 mil taken in for Vermaelen, forking out 12 on top of that will not seem like a stretch, particularly as he is way undperspent on the reported 100 mil for signings this Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 If I was Schneiderlin I'd try and get a move to a proper club. Could do better than Spurs. Maybe go to Arsenal. Fact is, Chicog is right. Schneiderlin does not want to play for Southampton, so he won't . Southampton are going down the swanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Rojo to join Van Gaal?.....growing possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 A contract is a contract and they have contracts for a reason. In employment terms it is there to protect both employee and employer and when both parties agreed and signed it, they were both happy with that agreement. If people were to ignore contracts without recourse, the world would be in disarray (more than it is already). Has Schneiderlin put in a transfer request yet? Players and agents don't like doing that cos it costs them a lot of money. But if he wants to get out of his contract, that's what he should do. Southampton are not in the wrong here and just want a player who is contracted to the club, to do his job. Unfortunately if a player really wants to go there is no point in keeping him. He can keep to his contract and just not play well. We had the same problem with Anelka when him and his brother were trying to force a move to the Galactitossers, but at least we got good money out of it. nothing new its been happening since 1960's, happens almost every time there's a difference in the dealing clubs valuation just now dumb arsed football fans buy into the media and clubs nasty pr bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 A contract is a contract and they have contracts for a reason. In employment terms it is there to protect both employee and employer and when both parties agreed and signed it, they were both happy with that agreement. If people were to ignore contracts without recourse, the world would be in disarray (more than it is already). Has Schneiderlin put in a transfer request yet? Players and agents don't like doing that cos it costs them a lot of money. But if he wants to get out of his contract, that's what he should do. Southampton are not in the wrong here and just want a player who is contracted to the club, to do his job. Unfortunately if a player really wants to go there is no point in keeping him. He can keep to his contract and just not play well. We had the same problem with Anelka when him and his brother were trying to force a move to the Galactitossers, but at least we got good money out of it. Totally agree Chicog. If he wants to go the club should let him but seeing as it's him who wants to go, he should put in the transfer request. If he doesn't and wants to play hard ball by not playing well, it surely shows what attitude he has to the club who want to sign him. Look at Suarez for instance. Wanted to leave Liverpool last season but couldn't, so he carried on and played the season of his life. Yes he wanted to go but no matter what you think about Suarez, he remained professional to his obligations. I would sooner sign someone like that than someone who throws his toys out of the pram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Suarez plays football. All he sees is defenders in front of him and a set of goal posts. I don't know where Schneiderlin comes from, but comparison with Suarez is academic and probably flawed. Suarez goes to Barcelona and is likely to be devastating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Reckon we need a nice cosy down in Pattaya with Bojangles, wilai and Chicog. Wouldn't want a miss that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 If he doesn't and wants to play hard ball by not playing well, it surely shows what attitude he has to the club who want to sign him. Look at Suarez for instance. Wanted to leave Liverpool last season but couldn't, so he carried on and played the season of his life. Not strictly true, only one club (us) which didn't meet their valuation, so they gave him a new contract and a huge pay rise - probably with a clause that said he could go if Barca or Real came a-knocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 If he doesn't and wants to play hard ball by not playing well, it surely shows what attitude he has to the club who want to sign him. Look at Suarez for instance. Wanted to leave Liverpool last season but couldn't, so he carried on and played the season of his life. Not strictly true, only one club (us) which didn't meet their valuation, so they gave him a new contract and a huge pay rise - probably with a clause that said he could go if Barca or Real came a-knocking. But he went to Barcelona cos your 40 plus 1 didn't interest him. What is Wenger going to do if he meets Messi, Neymar and Suarez in the Champions League? Never mind Vermaelen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 If he doesn't and wants to play hard ball by not playing well, it surely shows what attitude he has to the club who want to sign him. Look at Suarez for instance. Wanted to leave Liverpool last season but couldn't, so he carried on and played the season of his life. Not strictly true, only one club (us) which didn't meet their valuation, so they gave him a new contract and a huge pay rise - probably with a clause that said he could go if Barca or Real came a-knocking. wrong again u did meet their valuation, but they just ignored you and hoped youd go away which you rather pathetically meekly did. And you're seriousely suggesting a club will allow a clause in a contract saying he can leave for a.bigger club!!! i know your not to bright but even u surely can c that would never happen, what i suspect did happen was a verbal agreemnt which probably hinged around jaws staying 1 more.season and hopefully qualifying 4 champs lge football, which realisically looked out of reach pre season so he probaly felt safe he'd be on his way, but when liverpol qualified and the reality set in thy would struggle to compete in it, he still wanted a move and the bite was a 'reminder or insurance he still held thw upper hand ,hense the speed of the 'get rid'decision, only slight surprise was that liverpool got so much for.him considering the lengths suaraz would go to.secure a move and that barca were supposedly the.only club in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 If he doesn't and wants to play hard ball by not playing well, it surely shows what attitude he has to the club who want to sign him. Look at Suarez for instance. Wanted to leave Liverpool last season but couldn't, so he carried on and played the season of his life. Not strictly true, only one club (us) which didn't meet their valuation, so they gave him a new contract and a huge pay rise - probably with a clause that said he could go if Barca or Real came a-knocking. wrong again u did meet their valuation, but they just ignored you and hoped youd go away which you rather pathetically meekly did. And you're seriousely suggesting a club will allow a clause in a contract saying he can leave for a.bigger club!!! i know your not to bright but even u surely can c that would never happen, what i suspect did happen was a verbal agreemnt which probably hinged around jaws staying 1 more.season and hopefully qualifying 4 champs lge football, which realisically looked out of reach pre season so he probaly felt safe he'd be on his way, but when liverpol qualified and the reality set in thy would struggle to compete in it, he still wanted a move and the bite was a 'reminder or insurance he still held thw upper hand ,hense the speed of the 'get rid'decision, only slight surprise was that liverpool got so much for.him considering the lengths suaraz would go to.secure a move and that barca were supposedly the.only club in for him. I think there's a cross over in this one. Yes Arsenal met the original buy out clause which I think only means that a club is allowed to open talks with the player, it doesn't mean there's a done deal. But I'm also sure (maybe a Liverpool fan can confirm) that Liverpool then gave him a new improved contract but Suarez had a release clause was put in should Barca (and I think RM) come a knocking, as it was only those two clubs he would have been interested in leaving Liverpool for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I see rijit is still spouting the same bullshit for which he is famous. Which is why he's on my block list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Au contraire. rijit makes a lot of sense, not all of the time I grant you, but none of us are perfect. Anyway, here's some more nonsense from a chicog blocked poster: City to win the Community Shield 3-1. ( I'm in the UK, so no problem placing a wager. Roast beef and a few Guinness in my local. Magnifique as they say in Chile.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I've never blocked anyone on TV, has anyone ever blocked me.....? Come on, own up if ya know... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I've never blocked anyone on TV, has anyone ever blocked me.....? Come on, own up if ya know... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Mrboj wanted to for years but now he looks forward to your posts so he said.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Vidal held out of a Juventus friendly. Rumors picking up of a United transfer and The Pea going the other way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrus Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I've never blocked anyone on TV, has anyone ever blocked me.....? Come on, own up if ya know... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Mrboj wanted to for years but now he looks forward to your posts so he said.... I know, he was like that when he forced me to meet him in that classy joint, Pattaya..... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I've never blocked anyone on TV, has anyone ever blocked me.....? Come on, own up if ya know... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Mrboj wanted to for years but now he looks forward to your posts so he said.... I know, he was like that when he forced me to meet him in that classy joint, Pattaya..... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand He'll be in Witherspoon's right now watching em get beat.....last time they won....but his lucky mascot ain't there this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 He'll be in tears now hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Van Gaal wouldn't lose Community Shield to Arsenal. Moyesies investment was too large. 5etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I see rijit is still spouting the same bullshit for which he is famous. Which is why he's on my block list. thats a relef cant abide know all know nothing ignorant idiots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 If he doesn't and wants to play hard ball by not playing well, it surely shows what attitude he has to the club who want to sign him. Look at Suarez for instance. Wanted to leave Liverpool last season but couldn't, so he carried on and played the season of his life. Not strictly true, only one club (us) which didn't meet their valuation, so they gave him a new contract and a huge pay rise - probably with a clause that said he could go if Barca or Real came a-knocking. wrong again u did meet their valuation, but they just ignored you and hoped youd go away which you rather pathetically meekly did. And you're seriousely suggesting a club will allow a clause in a contract saying he can leave for a.bigger club!!! i know your not to bright but even u surely can c that would never happen, what i suspect did happen was a verbal agreemnt which probably hinged around jaws staying 1 more.season and hopefully qualifying 4 champs lge football, which realisically looked out of reach pre season so he probaly felt safe he'd be on his way, but when liverpol qualified and the reality set in thy would struggle to compete in it, he still wanted a move and the bite was a 'reminder or insurance he still held thw upper hand ,hense the speed of the 'get rid'decision, only slight surprise was that liverpool got so much for.him considering the lengths suaraz would go to.secure a move and that barca were supposedly the.only club in for him. I think there's a cross over in this one. Yes Arsenal met the original buy out clause which I think only means that a club is allowed to open talks with the player, it doesn't mean there's a done deal. But I'm also sure (maybe a Liverpool fan can confirm) that Liverpool then gave him a new improved contract but Suarez had a release clause was put in should Barca (and I think RM) come a knocking, as it was only those two clubs he would have been interested in leaving Liverpool for. No. the liverpool owners confirmed arsenal met the critera set out in the contract ie 40 mil to trigger a transfer, and come on bo nothing happens b4 talks but the yanks said they just ignored it and arsenal after one bid meekly almost apolgeticaly went away with their tails between their legs, rather pathetic really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/transfer-news-release-clause-in-luis-suarez-contract-was-activated-by-arsenal-but-liverpool-owner-john-henry-reveals-club-ignored-it-9164948.html Edited August 10, 2014 by rijit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I've never blocked anyone on TV, has anyone ever blocked me.....? Come on, own up if ya know... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Mrboj wanted to for years but now he looks forward to your posts so he said.... I know, he was like that when he forced me to meet him in that classy joint, Pattaya..... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand He'll be in Witherspoon's right now watching em get beat.....last time they won....but his lucky mascot ain't there this time! You're right smokes, I was in Witherspoons. Tha knows me too well mucker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 wow. "Man City paid £24.4m to Porto for Mangala. Also paid £14.2m to 3rd party owner + £4.3m to Standard Liege. £42.9m total" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellydog Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 wow. "Man City paid £24.4m to Porto for Mangala. Also paid £14.2m to 3rd party owner + £4.3m to Standard Liege. £42.9m total" I reckon that explains why it took forever to get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45Mustang Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I've never blocked anyone on TV, has anyone ever blocked me.....? Come on, own up if ya know... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Mrboj wanted to for years but now he looks forward to your posts so he said.... I know, he was like that when he forced me to meet him in that classy joint, Pattaya..... redrus Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand He'll be in Witherspoon's right now watching em get beat.....last time they won....but his lucky mascot ain't there this time! You're right smokes, I was in Witherspoons. Tha knows me too well mucker Yep. Weatherspoons Pattaya. Quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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