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The OP has managed to perfectly express the primary set of reasons why I avoid social contact with foreigners in Thailand.

And all in words of his own choosing.

And just as I start asking myself if I'm guilty of making an unfair generalization, the OP is joined by other expats eager to expose their own knuckles dragging on the floor.

Another condescending comment perfectly expressed, myopic and intolerant.

Yes there are things of which I am intolerant.

The wider view ( not the myopic) reveals a set of consequences arising from the behaviour the OP celebrates that are the basis of my objection to the OP's post and what it stands for.

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The OP has managed to perfectly express the primary set of reasons why I avoid social contact with foreigners in Thailand.

And all in words of his own choosing.

And just as I start asking myself if I'm guilty of making an unfair generalization, the OP is joined by other expats eager to expose their own knuckles dragging on the floor.

Another condescending comment perfectly expressed, myopic and intolerant.

Yes there are things of which I am intolerant.

The wider view ( not the myopic) reveals a set of consequences arising from the behaviour the OP celebrates that are the basis of my objection to the OP's post and what it stands for.

I thought it was a myth.

But apparently some guys actually do come to Thailand to see the archaeological sites.

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I certainly dont care one way or the other if older guys patronize the bar girls or not but to the ones that pride themselves on their technique I would ask: If you gave the girl the choice of taking the money and just having a conversation or a meal or taking the money and providing the "service", what do you think her decision would be???

From my prospective, many guys do just take a B/G for companionship, or back rub, and not to bang her every hour of the night. But whatever kind of relationship you want to call it, it is still a relationship and sex is part of it. Though not as big as many may think.

I know in my single years I was one of them. When I found one I liked I would stay with her most of my time on my bi-monthly visits. There wasn't sex every night or as often as one may think. Wasn't sex every night on my Honeymoon either. Okay! There was sex every night on my Honeymoon, but I was much younger then.

But you do form a kind of friendship with them, and them with you. Even though there is an exchange of money. As the Poster said, they sure are a lot more fun then playing Bingo every night, and waiting for the Grandkids to visit on Sunday. .

To answer your question, I think at first the Girls would prefer a conversation over a meal then the "Service". But is this so strange? How many women do you know want to jump into bed to have sex with you after meeting you for 15 minutes? Truth is, many men are like this to but won't admit it. Or need a few bottles of courage first to do it. But it does happen, as I am sure it happens to a few B/G to. But not that often.

But once they get to know you better things do change. After we have been together for sometime I have had them come on to me to, and they were not looking at me and seeing a bowl of rice and fish either. If you know what I mean. Like any women I suppose. They just have a different career but are still women.

i'm not talking about being together for some time and I'm not talkin about young men. I am talkin about the guys who say theyre so good at it the girls want them

Sorry.

Yes I know the type you talk about. Met one once who uninvited sat at my table in the morning. Another Guy and I were discussing price and we figure that 1,000 Baht was about the good average price. This Young Stud piped up and said he was going to get all his for free.

Sadly met up with him 3 days later and he still hadn't been with anyone. His price has now gone up to 500 Baht the first night and free the next, figuring he was being generous. Met again 2 days later and he said he did find a Girl on Beach Road who would go with him for 500 baht. But said he was too drunk to do anything so he passed on it. I didn't have the heart to tell him that late at night on Beach Road she may have gone with him for the price of a meal and bed that night. And that this She may very well have been a He!

So lots of talk and no action. I would not be surprised if he didn't even get laid his week or two their. I never saw him after that. But then a Virgin should not come here by himself, as His First Time might be with a Guy, and not something he may want to remember later in life to tell his friends about. But then....what do I know about that?

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All this talk about (oh my god!) farang men having sex with Thai women . . .

BANGKOK, May 28, 2014 (AFP) - Thai police on Wednesday said they had charged five defrocked Buddhist abbots with sexually abusing eight boys at monasteries around the northern city of Chiang Mai.

The abuse was discovered after police rescued one boy from the abuse ring last year, police said, adding all the children involved were under 15 years of age.

"Four of the abbots volunteered to disrobe, but one denied the charges and was forcibly defrocked," Major General Prachuab Wongsuk, of the northern police region, told AFP.

He said police found alcohol and pornography during a search of living quarters at five monasteries.

Police believe the abbots were acting together and Prachuab predicted that more monks would be arrested soon.

Those charged face a maximum of 20 years in jail if convicted.

Monks in Thailand, where some 95 percent of the population are practising Buddhists, have been hit by a series of scandals, with local media reporting cases of drug-taking, drinking, gambling and visiting prostitutes.

In September, authorities seized nearly $800,000 worth of assets, including a Porsche and a Mercedes-Benz, from a monk who was defrocked for a controversial trip in a private jet and who was also accused of fathering a child by an underage girl a decade earlier.

What has that got to do with anything?

Are you comparing yourself to pedophile monks in order to make your situation seem less bizarre?

Seriously bad form.

There are priests and rabbi's etc all over the world who also do these despicable things. ..and frankly its disgusting that you would use this is some kind of way to take the light off you. Should be ashamed.

I'm not comparing myself to anyone, and I'm certainly not ashamed. This is absolutely what this whole 400 posts is about. People saying I'm right and you're wrong, I'm so good and you're so bad. This article came from Thai Visa news today - illustrating that we can all agree that anyone forcing sex on children is disgusting, as is have sex with farm animals - all the things we don't want to talk about. I'm sorry you don't like to be reminded of anything that happens outside your very small parameters of whats good and bad, right or wrong. But, whether you like it or not, there is nothing wrong with straight sex between . . . (drumroll)

Two legal age consenting adults.

It doesn't matter if its two men together, or two women, a man and a ladyboy, or an older man and a younger women. If you argue about two men sleeping together and go on about it being disgusting - that's called gay bashing. To me that is disgusting behavior in its own right. It's the same with grouping all Thai bar girls and bashing them. When you insist on your Senior Bashing I find that very offensive and out of line.

.of course there is nothing wrong with.... (drumroll)

Two legal age consenting adults

If you honestly think this is what the thread is about then you are seriously ...(drumroll)

Deluded

(which is pretty much what so many of us have been trying to say all along...)

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I'm not comparing myself to anyone, and I'm certainly not ashamed. This is absolutely what this whole 400 posts is about. People saying I'm right and you're wrong, I'm so good and you're so bad. This article came from Thai Visa news today - illustrating that we can all agree that anyone forcing sex on children is disgusting, as is have sex with farm animals - all the things we don't want to talk about. I'm sorry you don't like to be reminded of anything that happens outside your very small parameters of whats good and bad, right or wrong. But, whether you like it or not, there is nothing wrong with straight sex between . . . (drumroll)

Two legal age consenting adults.

It doesn't matter if its two men together, or two women, a man and a ladyboy, or an older man and a younger women. If you argue about two men sleeping together and go on about it being disgusting - that's called gay bashing. To me that is disgusting behavior in its own right. It's the same with grouping all Thai bar girls and bashing them. When you insist on your Senior Bashing I find that very offensive and out of line.

.of course there is nothing wrong with.... (drumroll)

Two legal age consenting adults

If you honestly think this is what the thread is about then you are seriously ...(drumroll)

Deluded

(which is pretty much what so many of us have been trying to say all along...)

The thread is about consenting adults, hookers in Pattaya. There is nothing to indicate anything else.

You would have to project your own fantasies into what the OP wrote to get any other conclusion.

Psychological projection is the act or technique of defending oneself against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in oneself, while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.

Although rooted in early developmental stages, and classed by George Eman Vaillant as an immature defence, the projection of one's negative qualities onto others on a small scale is nevertheless a common process in everyday life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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I am sure we all understand this is Thailand, but there is nothing sadder or more pathetic than an old man trying to justify how virile, attractive and good looking he is to a girl 30 or 40 or even disgustingly 50 years his junior, ewwww tell me about all the ones you aren't paying for first because only a desperate man counts prostitutes in the numbers of girls he has slept with. I am sure your family is really proud of your exploits well done clap2.gif

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I am sure we all understand this is Thailand, but there is nothing sadder or more pathetic than an old man trying to justify how virile, attractive and good looking he is to a girl 30 or 40 or even disgustingly 50 years his junior, ewwww tell me about all the ones you aren't paying for first because only a desperate man counts prostitutes in the numbers of girls he has slept with. I am sure your family is really proud of your exploits well done clap2.gif

What planet did you just arrive from? From you avatar it looks like an evil empire where sex is a very very nasty thing.

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And the point is...? Are you trying to make the point that you are a geriatric retiree paying to sleep with hookers somehow poetic

No his point is, it's life.

Get over it.

If everyone comes out of the 'deal' happy, I don't see a problem and neither do the Thais!

In some country's in the name of God, a 12 year old marrys a geriatric, now that's a problem!
Two girls with a guy might be termed poetic though.
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And the point is...? Are you trying to make the point that you are a geriatric retiree paying to sleep with hookers somehow poetic

Read the OP the thread is about consenting adults. I believe a woman has to be 20 years of age to work in a bar in Thailand.

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And the point is...? Are you trying to make the point that you are a geriatric retiree paying to sleep with hookers somehow poetic

Read the OP the thread is about consenting adults. I believe a woman has to be 20 years of age to work in a bar in Thailand.

Not sure I ever mentioned consenting adults I am talking about old men trying to say they kill it with the young birds when clearly they are just paying for a hooker to sleep with them. What has the age of girls working in a bar got to do with it

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And the point is...? Are you trying to make the point that you are a geriatric retiree paying to sleep with hookers somehow poetic

No his point is, it's life.

Get over it.

If everyone comes out of the 'deal' happy, I don't see a problem and neither do the Thais!

In some country's in the name of God, a 12 year old marrys a geriatric, now that's a problem!
Two girls with a guy might be termed poetic though.

Touche and I agree just don't bore me with your stories of how much your bar girl loves being with you a 1000 baht is a 1000 baht even if your cyclops

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And the point is...? Are you trying to make the point that you are a geriatric retiree paying to sleep with hookers somehow poetic

Read the OP the thread is about consenting adults. I believe a woman has to be 20 years of age to work in a bar in Thailand.

Not sure I ever mentioned consenting adults I am talking about old men trying to say they kill it with the young birds when clearly they are just paying for a hooker to sleep with them. What has the age of girls working in a bar got to do with it

Read the OP. Where does it say anything remotely like what you are ranting against?

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And the point is...? Are you trying to make the point that you are a geriatric retiree paying to sleep with hookers somehow poetic

Read the OP the thread is about consenting adults. I believe a woman has to be 20 years of age to work in a bar in Thailand.

Not sure I ever mentioned consenting adults I am talking about old men trying to say they kill it with the young birds when clearly they are just paying for a hooker to sleep with them. What has the age of girls working in a bar got to do with it

Read the OP. Where does it say anything remotely like what you are ranting against?

..its pretty obvious he is referring to what is spattered throughout the pages of this thread, not really the opening post as such. You are being pedantic.

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Read the OP the thread is about consenting adults. I believe a woman has to be 20 years of age to work in a bar in Thailand.

Not sure I ever mentioned consenting adults I am talking about old men trying to say they kill it with the young birds when clearly they are just paying for a hooker to sleep with them. What has the age of girls working in a bar got to do with it

Read the OP. Where does it say anything remotely like what you are ranting against?

..its pretty obvious he is referring to what is spattered throughout the pages of this thread, not really the opening post as such. You are being pedantic.

What? The OP spattered what through the thread? Feel free to post a quote and prove me wrong.

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Uhmm far from ranting. I'm apathetic either way but surely the 70 year old man talking about his tantric sex abilities may qualify, and if you took the time to read the preceding 17 pages of this post I think you may find more than a few people defending their abilities and charm to sleep with the bar girls they are sleeping with. I say to each his own but also I think thee does protest too much, I think maybe you have got your purely financial hooker relationship confused with a normal loving relationship like many deluded people that spend the better part of their lives and wealth welded to bar stools and extolling the virtues of hookers compared to the women they couldn't get back home.. again I am sure your family is well proud of your exploits in regards to sleeping with bar girls... congratulationsclap2.gif

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What? The OP spattered what through the thread? Feel free to post a quote and prove me wrong.

..are we speaking the same language?

You wrote, "..its pretty obvious he is referring to what is spattered throughout the pages of this thread, not really the opening post as such. You are being pedantic."

I believe that meant you were accusing the OP of sex with underage women. Correct me if I'm wrong.

What were you writing about?

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I thought it was a myth.

But apparently some guys actually do come to Thailand to see the archaeological sites.

I get your point.

I've heard it said guys coming to Thailand to make money (and actually doing so) is a myth too,

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And the point is...? Are you trying to make the point that you are a geriatric retiree paying to sleep with hookers somehow poetic

Read the OP the thread is about consenting adults. I believe a woman has to be 20 years of age to work in a bar in Thailand.

Not sure I ever mentioned consenting adults I am talking about old men trying to say they kill it with the young birds when clearly they are just paying for a hooker to sleep with them. What has the age of girls working in a bar got to do with it

Read the OP. Where does it say anything remotely like what you are ranting against?

he said further into the thread

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And the point is...? Are you trying to make the point that you are a geriatric retiree paying to sleep with hookers somehow poetic

No his point is, it's life.

Get over it.

If everyone comes out of the 'deal' happy, I don't see a problem and neither do the Thais!

In some country's in the name of God, a 12 year old marrys a geriatric, now that's a problem!
Two girls with a guy might be termed poetic though.

Touche and I agree just don't bore me with your stories of how much your bar girl loves being with you a 1000 baht is a 1000 baht even if your cyclops

Its the oldest profession known to man.

This is not professed to be a ''love relationship'' but a ''hate relationship.''
He hates being lonely, and she hates being poor.
There are always exceptions and we all know of some where its an old guy, much younger girl relationship.
Blossomed from a chance encounter in soi 6.
The longer they stay together, strangely against 'our' better judgement, the more they become an item.
Hate brings them together.
Chemistry, personality's and circumstances makes it more than a chance encounter.
The age gap only adds one more minor problem to the relationship.
But will probably NOT be the reason for the breakup.
Simply like most relationships in life, nothing lasts for ever!

This post has been written with neither prejudice nor malice intended.

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I home school my daughter here in Thailand.

Hanging in her classroom are these words.

'Do what you can, with what you have got, where you are.'

Some thing happy people do all their lives.

And

Live and let live.

I hope she leads a fulfilling life.

Which I feel is not possible being narrow minded.

This post has been written with neither prejudice nor malice intended.

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