God bless them one and all !

[geronimo]

I was gonna make a comment but on second thoughts, I'm getting out of this thread, before the war starts!

[pigeonjake]

"A person would become concerned with sexual addiction if there was a lack of sex. The problems with addiction arise when needs however unusual are not met".

lol! thats like saying an alcoholic wont have A PROBLEM IF THERE IS UNLIMITED ALCOHOL AROUND! THATS FRICKEN HILARIOUS!!

Let me share with you about a few of people I met at the SLAA meeting. One was a flasher. He would go into bars and flash women and customers. There are many places in Pattaya where this behavior would not raise an eyebrow. There was another man who put on womens clothes and walked down the street and propositioned men. In Pattaya this is relatively normal and certainly no problem. There was a lady there who undressed and did things to herself (I'm sure you can imagine). In Pattaya she would not have been chastised for that behavior. Most SLAA problems involve a behavior that most people in Pattaya have forgotten how to do.

Sex addiction is not like alcohol addiction. Sex does not hurt you. If you want to meet 6 new people and get intimate with them, Pattaya is the place and you can do it every day. If you want to meet 6 new bottles of whiskey and drink them every day you will shortly die.

I am really trying hard to allow you to understand. If you want a greater understanding go to an SLAA meeting. The problems you will find, you would not find in Pattaya. Honest.

so do you think all that is normal,,,????

it <deleted>£££g ISNT IN MY WORLD,,

jake

[thaibeachlovers]

So would it be called, sex tourism,. Because they have failed marriages for what ever reasons. and move to a country where there are impoverished girls, who sell there body's to live. where 90% are forced into the sex trade.

<where 90% are forced into the sex trade. >

Absolute lie ( assuming you are referring to the FARANG scene- I have no idea re the THAI scene ). Another one that gets his bar girl info off the BBC- probably never had a real conversation with a BG.

BTW a successful BG is hardly impoverished, but they continue to work in the trade- I wonder why??????????

[thailiketoo]

Let me share with you about a few of people I met at the SLAA meeting. One was a flasher. He would go into bars and flash women and customers. There are many places in Pattaya where this behavior would not raise an eyebrow. There was another man who put on womens clothes and walked down the street and propositioned men. In Pattaya this is relatively normal and certainly no problem. There was a lady there who undressed and did things to herself (I'm sure you can imagine). In Pattaya she would not have been chastised for that behavior. Most SLAA problems involve a behavior that most people in Pattaya have forgotten how to do.

Sex addiction is not like alcohol addiction. Sex does not hurt you. If you want to meet 6 new people and get intimate with them, Pattaya is the place and you can do it every day. If you want to meet 6 new bottles of whiskey and drink them every day you will shortly die.

I am really trying hard to allow you to understand. If you want a greater understanding go to an SLAA meeting. The problems you will find, you would not find in Pattaya. Honest.

so do you think all that is normal,,,????

it <deleted>£££g ISNT IN MY WORLD,,

jake

Who cares? Do you set the tone for the rest of the world in what is sick or healthy?

If it is not normal in your world does that mean it is not normal?

[starky]

I wasn't going to come back to this topic, but I have to laugh at the whole thing, and what people make up.

I have always been very young at heart, at spirit and in body. Because of genetics and that I never had a stress-filled career, I have always

looked 15 to 20 years younger than my age. When I was 63 and traveling around the US, the people I met couldn't believe I was older than 50. When I recently went back to where I came from, after gone three years, everyone was saying that I don't age - that I look so young. Honestly, if I said I was 55, nobody would believe I was that old. I believe staying young looking has everything to do with being happy and loving life, living it to the fullest.

Those who were ranting about this dirty old man, wouldn't believe that I'm the one they were obsessing about, if they saw me.

So every Thai gal I was with would ask how old I was. And I would have them guess. It was no surprise to me that ALL of them gave me the same answer an ordinary American would give me - the 45 to 50 year range. If I told them I was 65 they would never believe it - like I was lying. Because I was told the same thing all the time by ordinary people, I knew they weren't just saying I was younger to make me feel good and get a better tip.

So the irony - THEY (the working gals) didn't think they were having sex with a dirty old man. They are very comfortable with a 45 year old man. Especially one who took them to dinner, got to know them and treated them with respect. And since my body works just as good in every way as your typical man half my age, there was absolutely no problem.

It's all an illusion. And really not worth getting in a lather over.

Mate you are the best I have ever seen. Your not a dirty old man (well I don't know you could be) ya just an old man. Do you REALLY think Thai bargirls tell you the truth when you ask them how old you are.... how delusional can you be! Mate good luck but you can't see the forest for the trees. As long as you believe it though you should be right

[JLCrab]

Let me share with you about a few of people I met at the SLAA meeting. Give me some time and I'll think up some more.

[starky]

So, old stud says he doesn't give a s### about what people think, yet posts on a public forum. Hippocrite. Novelists are some of the most boring people on the planet.

Not only does he post on a public forum he carries on and on and on, ad nauseum about how he really isn't old and the prostitutes really do think he is younger than he is. Hope he writes fiction because his whole existence is fiction. Why can't you just say I pay to sleep with prostitutes and be done with it? Why so defensive? Last post, I'm over it, wasted way too much time on this delusional fool...Oh wait, one last question where can I buy your books?...

[JLCrab]

This is the type of stuff I read while concurrently 'wasting' time on ThaiVisa http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/11-697_4g15.pdf

Supap Kirtsaeng was a Thai citizen grad student in the USA. He had his family and friends buy low-cost versions in Thailand of the same textbooks used in the USA and then sell about million dollars worth of them in the USA on eBay. Textbook publishers and 2 lower courts said he couldn't. The US Supreme Court then said he could. I deal routinely with some of the amicus brief providers on this case on both sides of the issue.

Reading comments maybe true or maybe false but nevertheless mostly unfounded claims on ThaiVisa is a pleasant distraction.

Edited May 31, 2014 by JLCrab

[AYJAYDEE]

"A person would become concerned with sexual addiction if there was a lack of sex. The problems with addiction arise when needs however unusual are not met".

lol! thats like saying an alcoholic wont have A PROBLEM IF THERE IS UNLIMITED ALCOHOL AROUND! THATS FRICKEN HILARIOUS!!

Let me share with you about a few of people I met at the SLAA meeting. One was a flasher. He would go into bars and flash women and customers. There are many places in Pattaya where this behavior would not raise an eyebrow. There was another man who put on womens clothes and walked down the street and propositioned men. In Pattaya this is relatively normal and certainly no problem. There was a lady there who undressed and did things to herself (I'm sure you can imagine). In Pattaya she would not have been chastised for that behavior. Most SLAA problems involve a behavior that most people in Pattaya have forgotten how to do.

Sex addiction is not like alcohol addiction. Sex does not hurt you. If you want to meet 6 new people and get intimate with them, Pattaya is the place and you can do it every day. If you want to meet 6 new bottles of whiskey and drink them every day you will shortly die.

I am really trying hard to allow you to understand. If you want a greater understanding go to an SLAA meeting. The problems you will find, you would not find in Pattaya. Honest.

they may not be a problem to pattaya but i assure you they are a problem to the addicted person. you obviously know little about addictive behaviour

[thailiketoo]

"A person would become concerned with sexual addiction if there was a lack of sex. The problems with addiction arise when needs however unusual are not met".

lol! thats like saying an alcoholic wont have A PROBLEM IF THERE IS UNLIMITED ALCOHOL AROUND! THATS FRICKEN HILARIOUS!!

Let me share with you about a few of people I met at the SLAA meeting. One was a flasher. He would go into bars and flash women and customers. There are many places in Pattaya where this behavior would not raise an eyebrow. There was another man who put on womens clothes and walked down the street and propositioned men. In Pattaya this is relatively normal and certainly no problem. There was a lady there who undressed and did things to herself (I'm sure you can imagine). In Pattaya she would not have been chastised for that behavior. Most SLAA problems involve a behavior that most people in Pattaya have forgotten how to do.

Sex addiction is not like alcohol addiction. Sex does not hurt you. If you want to meet 6 new people and get intimate with them, Pattaya is the place and you can do it every day. If you want to meet 6 new bottles of whiskey and drink them every day you will shortly die.

I am really trying hard to allow you to understand. If you want a greater understanding go to an SLAA meeting. The problems you will find, you would not find in Pattaya. Honest.

they may not be a problem to pattaya but i assure you they are a problem to the addicted person. you obviously know little about addictive behaviour

Why would you assure me? Are you a medical professional with specialty in sexual problems? Perhaps you could give us an example of sexual addiction that you are familiar with that is a problem for the person in Pattaya.

[AYJAYDEE]

"A person would become concerned with sexual addiction if there was a lack of sex. The problems with addiction arise when needs however unusual are not met".

lol! thats like saying an alcoholic wont have A PROBLEM IF THERE IS UNLIMITED ALCOHOL AROUND! THATS FRICKEN HILARIOUS!!

Let me share with you about a few of people I met at the SLAA meeting. One was a flasher. He would go into bars and flash women and customers. There are many places in Pattaya where this behavior would not raise an eyebrow. There was another man who put on womens clothes and walked down the street and propositioned men. In Pattaya this is relatively normal and certainly no problem. There was a lady there who undressed and did things to herself (I'm sure you can imagine). In Pattaya she would not have been chastised for that behavior. Most SLAA problems involve a behavior that most people in Pattaya have forgotten how to do.

Sex addiction is not like alcohol addiction. Sex does not hurt you. If you want to meet 6 new people and get intimate with them, Pattaya is the place and you can do it every day. If you want to meet 6 new bottles of whiskey and drink them every day you will shortly die.

I am really trying hard to allow you to understand. If you want a greater understanding go to an SLAA meeting. The problems you will find, you would not find in Pattaya. Honest.

they may not be a problem to pattaya but i assure you they are a problem to the addicted person. you obviously know little about addictive behaviour

Why would you assure me? Are you a medical professional with specialty in sexual problems? Perhaps you could give us an example of sexual addiction that you are familiar with that is a problem for the person in Pattaya.

like i said, you know little about addictive behaviour and its effects. but then the addict is always the last one to recognize the problems

[thailiketoo]

Let me share with you about a few of people I met at the SLAA meeting. One was a flasher. He would go into bars and flash women and customers. There are many places in Pattaya where this behavior would not raise an eyebrow. There was another man who put on womens clothes and walked down the street and propositioned men. In Pattaya this is relatively normal and certainly no problem. There was a lady there who undressed and did things to herself (I'm sure you can imagine). In Pattaya she would not have been chastised for that behavior. Most SLAA problems involve a behavior that most people in Pattaya have forgotten how to do.

Sex addiction is not like alcohol addiction. Sex does not hurt you. If you want to meet 6 new people and get intimate with them, Pattaya is the place and you can do it every day. If you want to meet 6 new bottles of whiskey and drink them every day you will shortly die.

I am really trying hard to allow you to understand. If you want a greater understanding go to an SLAA meeting. The problems you will find, you would not find in Pattaya. Honest.

they may not be a problem to pattaya but i assure you they are a problem to the addicted person. you obviously know little about addictive behaviour

Why would you assure me? Are you a medical professional with specialty in sexual problems? Perhaps you could give us an example of sexual addiction that you are familiar with that is a problem for the person in Pattaya.

like i said, you know little about addictive behaviour and its effects. but then the addict is always the last one to recognize the problems

I am still waiting for the source of your expertise about sexual addiction and Pattaya.

Feel free to share it with us.

I've lived in Pattaya. I've been to SLAA meetings. I've been to AA meetings. I know many people who are involved in both programs and have discussed addiction with my psychiatrist who charged me $160 per hour to gain my knowledge.

So now you know about me. What about you?

[AYJAYDEE]

i know nothing about you other than what your posts indicate about your lack of understanding of addictive behaviour and its effects.. either your shrink is as dud or you are a slow learner

[thailiketoo]

i know nothing about you other than what your posts indicate about your lack of understanding of addictive behaviour and its effects.. either your shrink is as dud or you are a slow learner

I'd be happy to share my experiences with addiction in hopes it would be of some help to you. If not no problem. Another poster kept asking people to take a test so apparently he had an interest. Up to you.

[AYJAYDEE]

i know nothing about you other than what your posts indicate about your lack of understanding of addictive behaviour and its effects.. either your shrink is as dud or you are a slow learner

I'd be happy to share my experiences with addiction in hopes it would be of some help to you. If not no problem. Another poster kept asking people to take a test so apparently he had an interest. Up to you.

all addicts experience addiction.whether they understand it or not is another matter

[balo]

A lot of young girls like older men and find them very sexy and attractive. I know this for a fact when I'm passing by the Pattaya bars , they all want me to stay.

[HeavyDrinker]

I've lived in Pattaya. I've been to SLAA meetings. I've been to AA meetings.

So you still don't think you're a dysfunctional human in spite of your delusions and perversions?

[poweratradio]

Nice post but for every woman's life that changes for the better, there is one that changes for the worse. I've met literally hundreds that have got addicted to drugs and alcohol.

Fair enough there is a place where all that want this prostitution disguised as something else can be together by a dirty sea.

Myself, I'd hope that I got wiser as I reached my final years.

In this country, there is a tradition of older retired men practicing renunciation.

It embarrasses me to have fellow countrymen who instead of utilizing all the great opportunities in Thailand to detach from worldy attachments before they die, choose to live in a brothel. Attachments to worldly pleasures are deceptive and don't give real satisfaction, but cause suffering.

There ain't no fool like an old fool.

all your opportunities dont seem to have taught you much about the 3 rd precept

What are you on about?

BTW, I'm not a Buddhist.

Here in is the FOOL of which is spoken of in your post. How you dare find fault with the chosen enjoyment of others, no matter what year they are in. Women of the evening have made their choices as well; whether it be sex trade, drugs or alcoholism et all. Enjoy your disgust and reclusive final years fool.

[JLCrab]

I've lived in Pattaya. I've been to SLAA meetings. I've been to AA meetings.

So you still don't think you're a dysfunctional human in spite of your delusions and perversions?

Why should he? He knows mre than you. Even when he goes to the Board Certified psychiatrist the net result is that he ending up sharing his knowledge with the doctor...

[thaibeachlovers]

What's all this guff about "sexual addiction"? Sounds like a load of b****** to me. Sex is one of, if not the most enjoyable legal experience a person can have. Done properly it gives mutual pleasure and has no bad side effects ( other than pregnancy and STDs, and they are what condoms were invented for ).

If one disagrees, they either haven't done it properly, or they have issues that need sorting.

[AYJAYDEE]

What's all this guff about "sexual addiction"? Sounds like a load of b****** to me. Sex is one of, if not the most enjoyable legal experience a person can have. Done properly it gives mutual pleasure and has no bad side effects ( other than pregnancy and STDs, and they are what condoms were invented for ).

If one disagrees, they either haven't done it properly, or they have issues that need sorting.

its what it sounds like to addiction specialists that counts

[wow64]

So, old stud says he doesn't give a s### about what people think, yet posts on a public forum. Hippocrite. Novelists are some of the most boring people on the planet.

Couldnt agree more.. Always cringe when ever I here someone say it.

Got 3 guys I know here who claim to be writters.. The crap that comes out of their mouth is similar to this guy..

Sent from my c64

Edited June 1, 2014 by wow64

[thailiketoo]

What's all this guff about "sexual addiction"? Sounds like a load of b****** to me. Sex is one of, if not the most enjoyable legal experience a person can have. Done properly it gives mutual pleasure and has no bad side effects ( other than pregnancy and STDs, and they are what condoms were invented for ).

If one disagrees, they either haven't done it properly, or they have issues that need sorting.

its what it sounds like to addiction specialists that counts

Churchill was probably the best known case of a high functioning alcoholic. I think there are many different levels and kinds. I've met many people who said they were addiction specialists Most, in my opinion were just drunks looking for job. I have a lot of respect for AA and not much for SLAA. I'd be more than happy to share my experiences with you but I'm not a specialist. However having said that it sounds to me like you don't want to learn anything about addiction and are more interested in condemning it or telling people how much better you are than they are.

[Ulysses G.]

It embarrasses me to have fellow countrymen who instead of utilizing all the great opportunities in Thailand to detach from worldy attachments before they die, choose to live in a brothel. Attachments to worldly pleasures are deceptive and don't give real satisfaction, but cause suffering.

all your opportunities dont seem to have taught you much about the 3 rd precept

What are you on about?

BTW, I'm not a Buddhist.

Here in is the FOOL of which is spoken of in your post. How you dare find fault with the chosen enjoyment of others, no matter what year they are in. Women of the evening have made their choices as well; whether it be sex trade, drugs or alcoholism et all. Enjoy your disgust and reclusive final years fool.

Don't sweat it. Anyone who goes and on, disparaging other people's sex lives on an Internet forum, is likely angry and bitter, because they are incapable of an erection themselves.

Edited June 1, 2014 by Ulysses G.

[thailiketoo]

I've lived in Pattaya. I've been to SLAA meetings. I've been to AA meetings.

So you still don't think you're a dysfunctional human in spite of your delusions and perversions?

No. I don't think I have any delusions and perversions. We could discuss it if you are into discussion. Or did someone make you a judge of other human behavior? Discussion is OK. You acting as judge and jury of other people's behavior is not. Up to you.

[AYJAYDEE]

What's all this guff about "sexual addiction"? Sounds like a load of b****** to me. Sex is one of, if not the most enjoyable legal experience a person can have. Done properly it gives mutual pleasure and has no bad side effects ( other than pregnancy and STDs, and they are what condoms were invented for ).

If one disagrees, they either haven't done it properly, or they have issues that need sorting.

its what it sounds like to addiction specialists that counts

Churchill was probably the best known case of a high functioning alcoholic. I think there are many different levels and kinds. I've met many people who said they were addiction specialists Most, in my opinion were just drunks looking for job. I have a lot of respect for AA and not much for SLAA. I'd be more than happy to share my experiences with you but I'm not a specialist. However having said that it sounds to me like you don't want to learn anything about addiction and are more interested in condemning it or telling people how much better you are than they are.

i dont condemn addictions. i just acknowledge them. you appear not to

[JLCrab]

No. I don't think I have any delusions and perversions. From the screenplay for Rainman (Dustin Hoffman 'Oscar' Best Actor for Raymond):

Doctor: Raymond, do you know what autistic is?

Raymond: Yeah.

Doctor: You know that word?

Raymond: Yeah.

Doctor: Are you autistic?

Raymond: I don't think so. No. Definitely not.

[thailiketoo]

What's all this guff about "sexual addiction"? Sounds like a load of b****** to me. Sex is one of, if not the most enjoyable legal experience a person can have. Done properly it gives mutual pleasure and has no bad side effects ( other than pregnancy and STDs, and they are what condoms were invented for ).

If one disagrees, they either haven't done it properly, or they have issues that need sorting.

its what it sounds like to addiction specialists that counts

Churchill was probably the best known case of a high functioning alcoholic. I think there are many different levels and kinds. I've met many people who said they were addiction specialists Most, in my opinion were just drunks looking for job. I have a lot of respect for AA and not much for SLAA. I'd be more than happy to share my experiences with you but I'm not a specialist. However having said that it sounds to me like you don't want to learn anything about addiction and are more interested in condemning it or telling people how much better you are than they are.

i dont condemn addictions. i just acknowledge them. you appear not to

Why would you say that? I wrote, "Churchill was an alcoholic" and, "I have a lot of respect for AA.

Can't you read?

[AYJAYDEE]

yes I can

[thailiketoo]

What's all this guff about "sexual addiction"? Sounds like a load of b****** to me. Sex is one of, if not the most enjoyable legal experience a person can have. Done properly it gives mutual pleasure and has no bad side effects ( other than pregnancy and STDs, and they are what condoms were invented for ).

If one disagrees, they either haven't done it properly, or they have issues that need sorting.

its what it sounds like to addiction specialists that counts

Churchill was probably the best known case of a high functioning alcoholic. I think there are many different levels and kinds. I've met many people who said they were addiction specialists Most, in my opinion were just drunks looking for job. I have a lot of respect for AA and not much for SLAA. I'd be more than happy to share my experiences with you but I'm not a specialist. However having said that it sounds to me like you don't want to learn anything about addiction and are more interested in condemning it or telling people how much better you are than they are.

i dont condemn addictions. i just acknowledge them. you appear not to

If you can read then you know I acknowledge addictions. I wrote, "Churchill was probably the best known case of a high functioning alcoholic. and I have a lot of respect for AA"

I have, never met an addiction specialist that knew even 10% of what AA knows about addictions. Have you?

AA members 2 million

SLAA members 16,000

Edited June 1, 2014 by thailiketoo