webfact Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 New York man freed after 17 years in prisonNEW YORK: -- A New York man walked free Tuesday after 17 years in prison for murder, after it was determined that false testimony had been used to convict him, authorities said.Roger Logan, 53, who had maintained his innocence despite his conviction, was exonerated thanks to the work of a Conviction Review Unit evaluating about 90 cases, prosecutors said.Logan was arrested and then convicted for the July 24, 1997 murder of Sherwin Gibbons, who was shot dead in Brooklyn after a game of dice.His sentence to 25 years to life rested largely on the testimony of a neighbor who put him at the crime scene. It recently came to light however that she was not where she testified she was on the day of the crime, claiming that she spotted Logan there."In the interest of justice, I have asked the Court to vacate the murder conviction of Roger Logan," said Brooklyn prosecutor Kenneth Thompson.So far, the review unit has helped overturn another seven convictions; In 11 other cases, convictions were upheld.AFP-- The Nation 2014-06-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted June 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2014 That is why, I am against, death penalty. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 This happens too often. Too many corrupt cops out there that want to solve the case, no matter what. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 This happens too often. Too many corrupt cops out there that want to solve the case, no matter what. Yeah, quick and easy paper work to do after pointing the finger and saying "he did it" Poor bloke, 17 years wow !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orientalsf Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 And this relates to Thailand how? Maybe I'm reading it wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 The wannabe eye witness lol. Now it's her turn to go to prison for a little while for misleading authorities etc Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted June 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2014 And this relates to Thailand how? Maybe I'm reading it wrong. World News Forum............... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 This happens too often. Too many corrupt cops out there that want to solve the case, no matter what. UG, That's not what happened in this case, from what I've read here. Nothing to do with corrupt cops, at all. Apparently a witness claimed she saw something that she did not. Can you indicate to me where the corruption in this is. Sure a witness has obviously committed perjury but there's no evidence to suggest either of your above claims are true. Shame on you, old friend. I will slap you later nb: no animals were harmed during the process of writing this comment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kamahele Posted June 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2014 Stories like this one go to prove that the death penalty should be once again be abolished in America. We have had too many cases like this where men have spent the most productive years of their lives behind bars for crimes they didn't commit. It's all well and good for people to want to "hang em high" when people are accused of murder, but how many innocent people have to be sentenced wrongly to death (I don't believe this gentleman actually got the death penalty). It is strange at how some Texans are even proud of their death penalty record (numbers of people executed). Getting off my soap box, I hope this guy can find forgiveness in his heart and, gets a large payout and can live out the remainder of his natural life living high on the hog. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 And this relates to Thailand how? Maybe I'm reading it wrong. It is the World News. Here's a link to the guidelines for the forum: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/724370-world-news-is-for-topics-not-related-to-thailand/ I see your new. Welcome to Thaivisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 For Christ's sake, does everyone need to take a pop at the death penalty. The guy got a prison sentence. He didn't get the death penalty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mamma Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Meanwhile the real murderer has been scott free and not even worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 This happens too often. Too many corrupt cops out there that want to solve the case, no matter what. That's not what happened in this case, from what I've read here. Nothing to do with corrupt cops, at all. I was "speaking" in general, but why did the witness lie? There have been countless cases where the police put someone up to it, by convincing them of someones guilt or threatening them with arrest for another crime. There are lots of good cops, but plenty of bad ones as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran2698 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 For Christ's sake, does everyone need to take a pop at the death penalty. The guy got a prison sentence. He didn't get the death penalty. Yeah, because Christ didn't have a problem with the death penalty. LOL Anyway he was in New York where there is no death penalty, but if he had of been in a different state it would have been a different matter. This is a case of a wrong conviction that in some places would have resulted in the death penalty and that is the point in speaking here against capital punishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 This happens too often. Too many corrupt cops out there that want to solve the case, no matter what. That's not what happened in this case, from what I've read here. Nothing to do with corrupt cops, at all. I was "speaking" in general, but why did the witness lie? There have been countless cases where the police put someone up to it, by convincing them of someones guilt or threatening them with arrest for another crime. There are lots of good cops, but plenty of bad ones as well. According to the article the witness was a neighbor...why did she lie? ...maybe he never returned the sugar he borrowed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Didnt anyone think to verify her story/statement when she made it ? Discovered 17 years later to be a lie, wouldnt it also have been easier to discover at the time ? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 This happens too often. Too many corrupt cops out there that want to solve the case, no matter what. That's not what happened in this case, from what I've read here. Nothing to do with corrupt cops, at all. I was "speaking" in general, but why did the witness lie? There have been countless cases where the police put someone up to it, by convincing them of someones guilt or threatening them with arrest for another crime. There are lots of good cops, but plenty of bad ones as well. The good far outweigh the bad UG, but you would expect me to say that. I'm just sayin........if that had happened, it would be plastered everywhere by now, but not a mention of it anywhere, so maybe save the 'beat up ' comments for the appropriate cases. Spread the love UG, spread the love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 For Christ's sake, does everyone need to take a pop at the death penalty. The guy got a prison sentence. He didn't get the death penalty. Yeah, because Christ didn't have a problem with the death penalty. LOL Anyway he was in New York where there is no death penalty, but if he had of been in a different state it would have been a different matter. This is a case of a wrong conviction that in some places would have resulted in the death penalty and that is the point in speaking here against capital punishment. The death penalty is not given out lightly and there is nothing to indicate that this guy would have gotten the death penalty in any other state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) This happens too often. Too many corrupt cops out there that want to solve the case, no matter what. That's not what happened in this case, from what I've read here. Nothing to do with corrupt cops, at all. I was "speaking" in general, but why did the witness lie? There have been countless cases where the police put someone up to it, by convincing them of someones guilt or threatening them with arrest for another crime. There are lots of good cops, but plenty of bad ones as well. The good far outweigh the bad UG, but you would expect me to say that. I'm just sayin........if that had happened, it would be plastered everywhere by now, but not a mention of it anywhere, so maybe save the 'beat up ' comments for the appropriate cases. I have bad news for you. A bad cop was implicated and it was in the first article that I Googled. The "witness" was actually in jail when the crime was being committed. Retired detective Louis Scarcella, whose rotten tactics prompted an unprecedented review of some 57 cases he had handled, was involved in the investigation, sources said. He had questioned Logan, asked him to frame a third individual and, when he refused, got him to sign a statement that he was at the location. He later produced the eyewitness who fingered Logan, said the freed man’s lawyer Harold Baker. “That they went into so much trouble to frame this person shocks the conscious,” Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/man-served-17-years-prison-brooklyn-homicide-declared-innocent-article-1.1815780#ixzz33fHl4khD Edited June 4, 2014 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggusoil Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 For Christ's sake, does everyone need to take a pop at the death penalty. The guy got a prison sentence. He didn't get the death penalty. Posters are using the opportunity to point out that where those cases would or could have brought the death penalty in various states of America, did not. It is precisely this sort of case, that provokes this response, albeit, obvious, but for all legislators who can invoke the death penalty, it is a wise caution. Many posters here would have you strung up, castrated and roasted on just hearing you'd been arrested for some heinous crime, you may or may not have committed. It's a good cautionary tale against capital punishment. It works particularly well for the innocently accused and where corruption of the law is silenced by the sentence. Dead men can't tell tales. I am convinced this is the real reason the Bali bombers got theirs. There were people involved who didn't want it known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran2698 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 For Christ's sake, does everyone need to take a pop at the death penalty. The guy got a prison sentence. He didn't get the death penalty. Yeah, because Christ didn't have a problem with the death penalty. LOL Anyway he was in New York where there is no death penalty, but if he had of been in a different state it would have been a different matter. This is a case of a wrong conviction that in some places would have resulted in the death penalty and that is the point in speaking here against capital punishment. The death penalty is not given out lightly and there is nothing to indicate that this guy would have gotten the death penalty in any other state. Forget America, this is a wrongful conviction which would have resulted in the death penalty in some places. Many places have capital punishment and all should pay attention every time a case such as this comes to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 They review 18 cases...and 7 people were deemed wrongly convicted...what does that say about the US justice system...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 My Bad UG, I got a completely different story. My apologies. Next time post the evidence to start with, you evil bugga, I don't need your help to look bad, I can do that all on my own THANKS FOR POSTING ! Well I can only hope that this a*sehole Retired detective Louis Scarcella, is in a world of pain. Hopefully this victim can sue the baaastard for every penny he's worth, I don't know how you even out a price tag on 17 years. The retired detective should be in prison for at least 17 years. Lowlife like this really pissssss me off. It's a good thing that his department is re-investigating other cases he was involved in, it's a pity they were more pro-active in supervising him when he was a cop. How's that for a turn around.......hang this bugga HIGH ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 They review 18 cases...and 7 people were deemed wrongly convicted...what does that say about the US justice system...? Evidence was fabricated. There were serious problems with supervision of this p*ick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 They review 18 cases...and 7 people were deemed wrongly convicted...what does that say about the US justice system...? It says nothing about the justice system, except that there are numerous avenues of appeal and for review of cases. Many cases are overturned on a technicality. Even in this case, there is a witness whose testimony that was brought into question. It does not mean that he did not commit the crime. It means that any other evidence was not seen as being substantial enough to sustain the conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 They review 18 cases...and 7 people were deemed wrongly convicted...what does that say about the US justice system...?It says nothing about the justice system, except that there are numerous avenues of appeal and for review of cases. Many cases are overturned on a technicality. Even in this case, there is a witness whose testimony that was brought into question. It does not mean that he did not commit the crime. It means that any other evidence was not seen as being substantial enough to sustain the conviction. Yes I agree, however when you google this creep and read other information and allegations, you'd have to wonder if he did anything right. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/scarcella-dirty-locked-up-murderer-article-1.1361310 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Even this creeps partner was a creep. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/28/1265711/-Cases-from-partner-of-former-NYPD-detective-Louis-Scarcella-show-similar-questionable-patterns# What recourse is there in states like New York for people to go after the corrupt cop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 This happens too often. Too many corrupt cops out there that want to solve the case, no matter what. That's not what happened in this case, from what I've read here. Nothing to do with corrupt cops, at all.I was "speaking" in general, but why did the witness lie? There have been countless cases where the police put someone up to it, by convincing them of someones guilt or threatening them with arrest for another crime. There are lots of good cops, but plenty of bad ones as well.The good far outweigh the bad UG, but you would expect me to say that.I'm just sayin........if that had happened, it would be plastered everywhere by now, but not a mention of it anywhere, so maybe save the 'beat up ' comments for the appropriate cases. Spread the love UG, spread the love You all know it. Cops are just criminals in a uniform. You see, people like you are the problem. That's nonsense and you know it. Go away cretin. Cops like this and people supporting them (like you) are the problem. I've never met a cop that wouldn't lie or cover up evidence in the "pursuit of justice". Maybe they exist somewhere but I've never met them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Off-topic posts and replies deleted. General slurs against any group, including police officers, are not permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) One difficulty, IMHO, is defining and identifying "reasonable doubt" by the jury. Link to a more in-depth NY Times Article (click here) As to the no-death-penalty advocates: What do we do with killers where there is absolutely no doubt? Edited June 4, 2014 by MaxYakov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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